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UM, FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS? NO, SIR.
COMMISSIONERS, WE HAVE ITEM ONLY.
ONE ITEM ON THE ITEM IS DISCUSSION IN CITY 70 WITH FISCAL YEAR 25, 26.
SO THIS IS ESSENTIALLY, UM, ESSENTIALLY THE STATE OF PRESENTATION THAT IT WAS GIVEN AT THE HOUSE.
UM, SO, BUT I WOULD LIKE FOR Y'ALL TO TAKE A LOOK AGAIN, JUST TO SEE IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS THAT ARISE OR LIKE, NOW THAT YOU HAVE TIME WITH YOUR BOOK, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS TO ADDRESS NOW, NOW IS THE TIME.
SO, AS MENTIONED BEFORE, THIS BUDGET, UM, TAKES CARE OF TMRS. WE INCREASE IT, UH, FROM A FIVE TO 6%, A MINIMUM WAGE ADJUSTMENTS FROM 11 TO FOUR FIVE NOW TO 1285.
UM, INCREASE, UH, PAY TO OR CDO DRIVERS, UM, EMPLOYEE, UM, ONE TIME ADJUSTMENT OF
UH, WE ASSUME THE SAME RATES WITH THEIR REGULAR INFORMATION RATE UNTIL WE SEE OTHERWISE FROM OUR, UH, RECENTLY AWARDED, UM, REQUESTS FOR PROPOSALS.
WE, WE DON'T, WE DON'T KNOW THAT EXACT AMOUNT YET, BUT IT'LL BE, UM, IT SHOULD BE LESS THAN WHAT WE BUDGET FOR BECAUSE, UM, IT SHOULD BE, IT SHOULD BE CHEAPER, RIGHT? BASED ON WHAT WE SAW.
UM, THE REVENUE IS BASED ON HISTORICAL DATA, UM, AND CONSERVATIVE EXPECTATIONS.
UM, WE DID INCREASE THE WHOLE BUT OVERALL BUDGET FOR A 6%, WHICH IS THE SAME AS WE DID A LOT THE PREVIOUS YEAR.
WE DID ADDED AN IT, UM, DEPARTMENT HEAD, AN IT DEPARTMENT ALREADY EXISTED, WHICH IS ADDED NOW TO HAVE A DEPARTMENT HEAD WITH AN EMPLOYEE THERE.
UM, WE ADDED ADDITIONAL RESOURCES TO OUR ANIMAL CONTROL DEPARTMENT, AND WE DID HAVE OUR POLICE BARGAIN AGREEMENT.
SO, UM, WHAT ARE WE EXPECTING FROM THIS BUDGET? WE'RE EXPECTING NEW INVESTMENT, WHICH MEANS BETTER BENEFITS, INCREASE IN PAY, ESPECIALLY FOR LOW EMPLOYEES.
UM, FUNDING FOR PUBLIC SAFETY JUNE OR OUR CIVIL SERVICE, WHAT THEY NEED, AND HAVING COMPETITIVE SALARIES WHEN COMES TO WORK.
OUR PD DEPARTMENT INFRASTRUCTURE, BUDGETING FOR CRITICAL UPGRADES, TAKING CARE OF OUR ANIMAL CONTROL PROBLEM WITH ADDING ANOTHER STAFF AND THEN A WORKING SUPERVISOR ASIDE FROM ADDING AN ORDINANCE, GETTING A REWARD, ADDING A LITTLE BIT MORE FOR, UM, N NEUTER ALSO, UM, INCREASING THE AMOUNT OF MONEY WE ALLOCATED TO ANNUAL FED.
THERE'S GONNA BE SOME CHANGES IN OUR ANNUAL CONTROL.
UH, WE ALSO ADDED, UH, FOR DEMOLITION INSTRUCTORS AND, UM, JUST OPERATIONAL IMPROVEMENTS THAT ALL RESOURCES ARE LOCATED ADEQUATELY ACROSS THE DEPARTMENTS OR TAX RATE.
AGAIN, IT'S THE LOWEST WE'VE EVER BEEN, AND I KNOW IT'S BEEN STAGNANT FOR FOUR YEARS, BUT, UM, HOPEFULLY YEARS TO COME.
WE CAN EVEN GO LOWER THAN THAT.
HOWEVER, THIS YEAR WE'RE, WE'RE ASSUMING TO STAYING THE SAME.
UM, THIS IS RANDOM BUDGET COMPARISON.
UM, BALANCE BUDGET, UH, COMPARED FROM 2223, UM, 24 AND 25.
SO IT'S A, IT'S A FOUR YEAR COMPARISON.
IT, WE'VE ALWAYS GONE REVENUE OVER EXPENDITURES.
SO IN YOUR FIRST TWO CALLS, YOU SEE THE ACTUAL, HOW THE END OF THE YEAR.
AND THEN ON THE 24, 25 IS WHAT WE'RE EXPECTING.
AND ON 25 JUNETEENTH WE'RE EXPECTING, 'CAUSE WE HAVEN'T TO IT YEAR.
UM, ON THIS ONE WE HAVE A REVENUE BY SOURCE.
UM, PROPERTY TAXES, NON PROPERTY TAXES, LICENSE FEES, FINES, FORFEITURES, INTEREST, REVENUE, MISCELLANEOUS REVENUE, NOT OTHER CLINICS VERSUS THIS ONE IS HELD UP.
IT, IT'S A SHORT, IT'S ALL LOCATED BY DEPARTMENT, I'M SORRY, BY, UH, REVENUE SOURCE.
SO WHERE WE GET OUR MOST REVENUE FROM, IT'S THEIR PROPERTY TAXES.
AND NEXT WE HAVE OUR, UM, OUR, UM, NON-PROPERTY TAXES, WHICH INCLUDE OUR SALES TAX OR FEES.
SO IT'S THERE, IT'S ALLOCATED IN A MY CHART WHERE YOU CAN SEE
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WHAT TAKES THE BIGGER CHUNK ON REVENUE SOURCES, EXPENSES BY DEPARTMENT ON THIS ONE, YOU CAN ACTUALLY SEE THE SAME THING, THE COMPARISON DEPARTMENTS FOR THE LAST FOUR YEARS.AND WHERE ARE WE WITH THOSE OWN EXPENSES.
AND THEN IT JUST THE SAME THING.
WE'RE DOING A BUY CHART, UM, BASED ON EACH DEPARTMENT.
I KNOW SOME OF 'EM YOU SEE 0%, BUT IT, IT'S LIKE ZERO POINT SOMETHING, IT'S JUST NOT, COMPARED TO THE BIGGER ONES, IT DOESN'T MAKE THE WHOLE NUMBER.
AND THEN HAVE OUR ENTERPRISE, UH, THIS IS A WATER FUND.
THE TAR FOR SERVICES, IT'S REALLY LIKE IT'S SELF-SUSTAINABLE OR, OR WATER FUND AND THE TOTAL EXPENSES PER DEPARTMENT.
AND THEN, UM, AGAIN, I DON'T KNOW WHY THIS SLIDE CHANGED THE ONE SO WEIRD, BUT, UM, THIS IS THE SAME THING.
BUT FOR OUR, UH, ENTERPRISE FUND FOR FUND FIVE, WHICH IS A WASTE WATER FUND, SAME THING.
SELF-SUSTAINABLE, UM, TOTAL AMOUNT PER DEPARTMENT FROM THE WASTE WATER FUND OPERATIONS FOR COLLECTIONS.
AND THEN HAVE THE SAME REVENUES AND EXPENSES FOR, OR WASTE, WHICH IS SOLID WASTE.
WE ONLY HAVE ONE DEPARTMENT FOR ADMINISTRATION.
IT'S REALLY, UM, WHAT WE DO IN OUR UTILITY DEPARTMENT FOR THE ADMIN PEOPLE THAT WORK THERE TO TAKE THE CALLS AND SEND THE LETTERS AND STUFF.
AND THAT'S PRETTY MUCH A SMALL SUMMARY OF WHAT THE BUDGET IS.
I KNOW THIS PRESENTATION WAS PROVIDED IN THE PAST, BUT I WANTED TO RECAP AND SEE IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS ARISE FROM, FROM THE PRESENTATION OR FROM THE ACTUAL BOOK.
ANY QUESTIONS ON THE, UH, ON, ON THE RETIREMENT? UH, THE TM RS THE, THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN FIVE, SIX AND 7%.
SO, UH, FOR A 5% WE'RE PAYING AROUND 425,078, WE JUMPED TO A 6%.
AND WE WILL PAY WITH A 5% VERSUS A SIX.
WE HAVE TO TAKE CONSIDERATION THAT NOW IT CAN INCREASE TO AN UP TO AN 8%.
SO MUNICIPALITIES CAN GO ALL THE WAY TO THE 8%.
UH, AND THE CAPACITY USED TO BE SEVEN.
SO THAT PUTS US 3% BEHIND WHAT OTHER MUNICIPALITIES ARE DOING.
'CAUSE A LOT OF MUNICIPALITIES DID WENT UP TO THE 8%.
WE, WE, UH, THIS BUDGET, WE ASSUME A SIX, AND THAT'S 144,043 EMBEDDED IN THE BUDGET TO GIVE A 6% INSTEAD OF, I SAID THIS HAPPENED BEFORE WE KNEW WHEN 8% WAS COMING OUT THE DOOR.
'CAUSE THAT'S RECENTLY HAPPENED, LIKE AFTER WE HAD A CONVERSATION ABOUT THE TEAM ARREST.
IF WE GO TO FROM WHERE WE'RE AT TO 5% TO A 7%, YOU'RE LOOKING AT 288,000 HUNDRED 85.
SO BASICALLY DOUBLE WHAT WE WENT FROM 1 44 TO 2 88.
SO THAT'LL BE THE OTHER GYM BASICALLY, IF WE WANT TO PUT OR WHAT IS THAT? 7% WITH MRS. SO WHAT'S GONNA BE TOTAL? UM, IT'LL BE, IT'S GONNA BE FROM 4 25 PLUS TWO 80.
WELL, IF WE GO TO A SEVEN, YES, BUT THIS BUDGET APPLIES A SIX.
SO THAT'S, UM, FROM 4 25 TO 5 69 TO 120.
THAT'S A HUNDRED FORTY, FOUR HUNDRED FORTY TWO, UM, INCREASE, WHICH IS LISTED ON OUR FIRST, LIKE, IS THAT BASED ON 250 EMPLOYEES? 265 EMPLOYEES? WELL, BASED ON WHAT THE TMR TMRS RECORD SHOWED, THEY GIVE US THE, THE QUOTE BASICALLY.
UM, IT STILL HAS TO BE, UM, ADJUSTED TO THE AMOUNT OF OUR EMPLOYEES, BUT IT WOULDN'T CHANGE MUCH.
'CAUSE I THINK IT WAS AFTER THE EMPLOYEES WE HAD, I THINK IT WAS TWO 60, SO IT SHOULD ONLY BE LIKE FIVE.
SO IT SHOULDN'T DA, UM, THE BUDGET DOES HAVE THE CURRENT EMPLOYEES.
WE DO HAVE JUST FIVE, BUT IT'S IN PROCESS.
JUST WANTED MAKE SURE WE GOT THAT FOR THE RECORD.
SO THAT ONE, THE ONE WENT TO THE, FOR 6% WE DID FOR 6%.
WE BASICALLY SAY SOMEHOW THE SAME BECAUSE WE WERE BEHIND TWO NOW WITH EIGHT SHOULD BEHIND TWO.
UM, BUT IF WE WOULDN'T HAVE MADE A CHANGE, THEN WOULD'VE BEEN BEHIND THREE PERCENTAGE COMPARED TO OTHER STATES.
WAS THAT THIS LEGISLATIVE SESSION OR WHAT? UH, THE ONE BEFORE I BELIEVE.
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YEAH, IT WAS THIS ONE.MAYBE IT WAS ON THE TALKS AND THE ONE BEFORE, BUT YES, I KNOW I WAS IN THE BOXES LIKE APRIL WHEN I WENT TO A SESSION.
COMMISSIONER, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? SECOND, I'M TAKING A LOOK AT THE STREET MAINTENANCE.
YES, I SEE THAT THE, UH, THE LONGEVITY PAY WENT UP QUITE A BIT.
THERE'S ONLY TWO MORE EMPLOYEES.
WE TAKEN FOR EVERY, EVERY EMPLOYEE WHAT WE DID FROM LAST TIME TO THIS TIME, WE DID MAKE SURE ALL THE HIRING DATES WERE CORRECT.
IS THERE SOME PEOPLE THAT WERE GETTING IT, BUT IT WAS NOT IN DEPTH THERE.
THEY WERE TAKING US IF THEY WERE DOING THIS AND THEY WEREN'T.
SO IF YOU WERE TO PUT OUT ALL THE UTILITIES FOR ALL THE POSITIONS, SHOULD ADD THAT TO THAT 6 44.
SO WE DO HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN HERE FOR 11, 10 YEARS.
WHAT'S THE, WHAT'S THE LONGEVITY PAY RIGHT NOW? LET SEE, MS. CHRISTINE, DO YOU RECALL
SO IT'S, IT'S, IT'S A BIG, VERY SMALL AMOUNT.
YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT 96 FOR TWO YEARS.
SO YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT $48 TOMATOES A YEAR.
DO YOU THINK THAT THAT WILL IMPACT A TENURED EMPLOYEE TO STAY LONGER TO SHOOT FOR THOSE TARGETS, LIKE 5, 10, 15, 20 YEARS? DO YOU THINK THAT THEY CONSIDER THAT WHEN CONSIDERING IF THEY'RE GONNA STAY OR NOT DO WHEN YOU COMPARE IT TO THE CITIES THAT ARE OFFERING MORE? I, I BELIEVE IT, IT WOULD BE SOME SORT OF OTHER INCENTIVE TO THE EMPLOYEES TO STAY, LIKE, TO HIT THEIR 10 YEAR MARK AND THEN THEY'RE GONNA GET A, AN ADDITIONAL PAY.
HOWEVER, THEY'RE NOT LIKE, OR CIVIL SERVICE WHERE THEY GET TO BARGAIN THAT, THAT STUFF TO WHAT WE DECIDE TO, TO PUT THEM AT.
AND, AND I KNOW IT'S BEEN LIKE THAT EVER SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE.
EVERY, EVERY YEAR YOU COLLECT THOSE $48.
SO THEN, I MEAN, IT KEEPS GOING UNTIL YOU ARE ACTUALLY, UM, SEEING THAT.
I THINK COMMISSIONER, THE, THE AMOUNT ITSELF IS NOT REALLY GONNA BE, WELL BY ITSELF, WILL NOT REALLY MAKE A DIFFERENCE.
BUT WHAT WE'LL WE'LL MOVE THE NEEDLE IS RETIREMENT LONGEVITY, UM, HEALTH, YOUR HEALTH INSURANCE, OBVIOUSLY.
UM, THE OTHER THING THAT WE'RE GONNA BE LOOKING AT IS, UH, ACCRUED TIME OFF, UH, YOUR ANNUAL LEAVE AND SICK LEAVE.
YOU KNOW, WE, UH, WE'RE NOT REALLY COMPETITIVE WITH OTHER CITIES.
THOSE ARE THE KIND OF THINGS THAT EMPLOYEES LOOK AT, BUT AS A PACKAGE.
SO YEAH, TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION IN AND OF ITSELF, JUST ON ITS OWN, PROBABLY NOT GONNA REALLY MAKE A DIFFERENCE.
BUT IT'S HOW WE PUT THE PACKAGE TOGETHER THAT'S GONNA MAKE THESE EMPLOYEES WANT TO STAY FOR LONGER PERIODS OF TIME.
AND WE, YOU KNOW, EVENTUALLY WE'D LIKE TO WORK ON THE LONGEVITY SO THAT FOLKS THAT HAVE BEEN HERE LONGER COULD, UH, GET REWARDED.
IT SHOWS, UM, THAT WE VALUE THOSE TENURED PARTNERS.
I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S A WAY OF, UH, GIVING 'EM A RAISE WITHOUT GIVING THEM A RAISE.
IT'S, IT'S, THEY HAVE TO EARN A RAISE.
SO YOU, YOU COMMIT TO US FOR A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME AND WE'LL, WE'LL GIVE YOU SOMETHING BACK.
AND THAT'S A GOOD, THAT'S A GOOD PERSPECTIVE.
HOWEVER, IT, THIS BUDGET THIS TIME, NOT MENTIONED AT THE BEGINNING TOO, ADDED TOO MUCH.
IT GETS FISCALLY A LITTLE BIT EASIER TO MANAGE VERSUS GETTING A RAISE UP FRONT TO GET THAT MONEY UP FRONT RIGHT AWAY IF IT MAKES SENSE.
WELL, I FEEL LIKE YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT TWO DIFFERENT WAYS BECAUSE YES, YOU'RE LOOKING AT A BENEFIT FOR OR LOYAL EMPLOYEES THAT HAVE BEEN HERE FOR MANY YEARS, BUT YOU ALSO WANT THOSE TO WANT TO COME AND WORK HERE.
AND THAT'S WHEN WE WENT TO THE MINIMUM WAGE A LITTLE BIT HIGHER BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THOSE PEOPLE, UM, APPLYING FOR THE JOB BECAUSE THEY SEE IT TOO LOW COMPARED TO LIKE RESTAURANT FAST FOOD RESTAURANTS, THEY'RE
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PRETTY COMPETITIVE OR MORE THAN WHAT WE PAID.SO THAT'S HOW WE INCREASED THE LOWER PAY.
AND WE DID THE ONE TIME THAT WAY.
UM, THAT'S SOMEHOW GIVING BACK TO THE EMPLOYEES THAT HAVE PASSED THEIR PROBATION.
I'VE BEEN HERE FOR A YEAR, EVEN THOUGH THIS IS ONLY ONE TIME.
UM, BUT, UM, WE WOULD ATTRACT MORE EMPLOYEES FOR SURE BY RAISING THE MINIMUM.
HOW MANY, HOW MUCH TIME OFF DO WE HAVE FOR THE EMPLOYEES RIGHT NOW OR VACATION DAYS? WOULD THAT, THAT DO DEPEND ON HOW MANY YEARS YOU'VE BEEN HERE.
SO THE FIRST YEAR YOU GET 80 HOURS OF VACATION AND, AND 80 SICK TIME.
I'M SORRY, SICK TIME SOMETIME.
UM, THE DAYS THAT WE'RE CLOSED, 17 HOLIDAY, HOLIDAY PAY 17, I THINK IT'S 17 DAYS.
INCLUDING THE BIRTHDAYS I WAS COMPARING TO NEARBY CITY HAR AND I THINK THEY HAD 10 DAYS.
SO IS THAT TRUE? ANYBODY KNOW? NO, BUT THANK YOU.
YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I FOUND ON, ON THEIR WEBSITE.
SORRY, WE DO WELL HOLIDAY DATE FIRST LET HOLIDAY DATE FOR YEAH, WE ADDED IT TO ONE OF THEIR DAYS.
I WANTED TO PUT THAT IN PERSPECTIVE, RIGHT? SO 15 HOLIDAY, WHICH SOME PEOPLE THINK THAT SOME DAYS SHOULD NOT BE GIVEN TO.
WE SHOULDN'T BE CLOSED, BUT WE ARE.
SO THERE'S 15 DAYS THAT YOU GET VERSUS THE 10 DAYS THE NEIGHBORING MUCH LARGER, $80 MILLION BUDGET CITY HAS.
SO WE'RE, WE'RE GIVING SO MUCH TO THE EMPLOYEE WITH WHAT MIDDLE WE HAVE AND WE GOTTA TAKE IT WITH GRATITUDE AND SEE HOW CAN WE GIVE BACK TO THE CITIZEN EVERY DAY? 'CAUSE THAT'S WHO WE WORK FOR.
WHAT CAN WE CONTINUE TO DO FOR THEM? WELL, I THINK WE'VE MADE SOME GREAT STRIDES.
I KNOW LAST YEAR, YEAR BEFORE WE STARTED LOOKING AT PAY SCALES AND, AND CHANGES THAT WE'VE MADE THERE AND, AND THEN EVEN NOW WITH INCREASING MINIMUM WAGE, I I HOPE OUR EMPLOYEES UNDERSTAND THAT WE'RE, WE'RE CONTINUING TO MOVE IN THE DIRECTION WHERE WE'VE GOT GREATER BENEFITS AND, AND, UH, GREATER INCENTIVE TO BE HERE.
AND THAT'S GETTING PART OF THE DIRECTION THAT WE, WE SET WITH THE BUDGET.
AND WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO BE, UM, YOUR HELP AND YOUR SUPPORT THAT WE, UH, ARE REALLY ON THE CUSP OF GROWING AND CHANGING A LOT.
SO WE APPRECIATE ALL OUR EMPLOYEES VERY MUCH AND CONTINUE WANT TO BENEFITS IN THE DIRECTION'S, PROBABLY NOT THE RIGHT WORD, BUT MOVEMENT IN THAT DIRECTION.
TO YOUR POINT, MR.
YOU HAVE WHAT? THEY DO HAVE 10 DAYS.
PARDON? PARDON? I REMEMBER WHEN WE STARTED, MAYOR WAS THE PAY MINIMUM WAGE WAS LIKE $90, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
I THINK THERE'S STILL SOME BENEFITS WE CAN WORK ON.
WE WANT TO GET AS CLOSE TO THE, I THINK THE TARGET GOAL IS $15 AN HOUR, IS IF THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT EVER DECIDES TO MOVE THE NEEDLE IN THAT DIRECTION, WE NEED TO BE PREPARED TO MANAGE IT AND NOT MANAGE IT ALL AT ONCE, BUT CONTINUE TO INCREASE THE PAY.
UM, WELL THE THING IS THE, YOU KNOW,
THAT MEAN YOU DON'T GET THAT VERY OFTEN OR TRYING, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO KEEP.
ONE OF 'EM IS, YOU KNOW, IT IS A, LIKE A BACKHOE OPERATOR, YOU KNOW, WORKING AROUND SOME OF THE, UH, THE WATER LINES.
UM, A LOT OF THE UTILITIES THAT ARE OUT THERE, YOU HAVE TO HAVE THE SKILL THAT YOU HAVE TO WORK VERY, VERY CLOSELY WITH THOSE, UH, THOSE, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, THOSE HAZARDS.
UM, MORE GREATER OPERATOR ALSO.
UM, I SEE HIM, YOU KNOW, TAKE DOLLARS OVER HERE, PUTTING THE LITTLE SMALL DOLLARS DOWN.
HEY, COME ON OVER, COMING HOME, WE NEED YOU.
AND, UM, WE'RE PAYING A LOT MORE THAN WHAT WE GOT.
AND, UH, WE LOSE MOST OF THESE GUYS, UH, UH, BACKHOE OPERATORS OR MORE GREATER OPERATORS.
WHO'S OUT THERE STEP HR TEAM, HOW, WHO MAKES THE DECISION? WE HAVE A MINIMUM PAY SET WHEN WE'RE TRYING TO BRING SOMEBODY ON BOARD WHO MAKES THE DECISION TO BRING THEM BECAUSE OF THEIR CERTIFICATIONS, WHATEVER THEY BRING TO THE TABLE OR YEARS OF EXPERIENCE WITH ANOTHER CITY AT WHAT MINIMUM PAY? WE'LL START THE MATTER.
I THEY GO TO THE FINANCE DIRECTOR, HR OR CITY MANAGEMENT.
SO, UM, THEY GO TO REFER TO HR TO DO THE WELL TO THE DIRECTOR TO DO THE SCREENING PROCESS.
AND THEN THEY GO TO THE INSURANCE TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE CLEAR AND EVERYTHING.
AND THEN, UM, MS. CHRISTINE DOES HAVE
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A COPY OF THE BUDGET AND THEN SHE SEES IT THERE.SO WHAT IT SHOULD BE BUDGET, IT SHOULD BE THE CAP OF THE, WHATEVER WE CAN MAKE, YOU CAN ALWAYS GO BELOW THAT AMOUNT, BUT YOU CANNOT GO OVER THAT AMOUNT BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT YOU BUDGET FOR.
SO WHAT IS THE, SO THERE'S A PAY SCALE FOR EACH POSITION.
SO LIKE FOR, FOR EXAMPLE, NOW THAT WE'RE GONNA SET UP THE MINIMUM WAGE TO 1285, THAT'S THE STARTING PAY, RIGHT? UM, IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO LIKE, JUST TO GIVE AN EXAMPLE, HARD FOR AN INSPECTOR, RIGHT? AND, UM, THEY, THE DIRECTOR DOES THEIR STUDY AND THEN IT GOES TO FINANCE AND WE SEE LIKE, I DON'T KNOW, JUST TO GIVE A NUMBER, A $17 IS WHAT'S OUT THERE, RIGHT? UM, WE BUDGET FOR A $17 EXPERIENCE PAY JUST TO GIVE A NUMBER.
WELL IF THIS PERSON HAS SOME, SOME HEALTH EXPERIENCE BUT NOT THE HIGH PAYING EXPERIENCE, THEN WE BUDGET, WE PAY THEM FROM THE 1285, WHICH IS A MINIMUM UP TO THAT AMOUNT THAT IT WAS BUDGET FOR.
UM, IF IT IS AN EMPLOYEE THAT WE WANT TO RETAIN AND THERE'S BUDGET, UM, AVAILABILITY.
LET'S SAY YOU HAVEN'T HAD, YOU HAVEN'T FILLED THAT POSITION JUST BECAUSE YOU BUDGET SO LOW.
'CAUSE THAT HAD HAPPENED WHERE WE BUDGET FOR $13 AN HOUR AND THEN NEIGHBOR CITIES ARE PAID 18, $17 AN HOUR.
BUT YOU HAVEN'T HAD THAT EMPLOYEE FOR QUITE LIKE THE WHOLE YEAR BECAUSE YOU KEPT HIGHER.
THAT PERSON WOULD RUN A CALCULATION WHERE WE MAKE SURE THE AMOUNT, THE MONEY ASSIGNED TO THAT BUDGET, IT'S ENOUGH TO COVER THE SALARY FOR THE REST OF THE YEAR.
AND OF COURSE IT HAS TO BE COMPETITIVE.
IT WOULDN'T BE LIKE IF YOU HAVE 30,000 AND IF THERE'S A MONTH LEFT, YOU'RE GONNA GIVE THOSE 30,000 AWAY.
BUT IF THAT'S THE CASE, UM, WE WOULD ALLOW TO LIKE, LET'S SAY, OKAY, NOW COMPETITIVE, WE'VE ALREADY CHECKED AND THAT'S BETWEEN HR, MYSELF, THE DIRECTOR, AND THEN IT FINALLY GETS APPROVED THROUGH CITY ADMINISTRATION.
IF WE'RE DOING SOMETHING OUTSIDE OF THE SCOPE EVERY, IS THERE AN ACTUAL PHYSICAL DOCUMENT OR PROCESS THAT WE FOLLOW FROM PAYSCALE OR IS IT BASED ON WHAT THE TEAM SAYS? IT'S IT'S BASED ON THE BUDGET ITSELF.
THAT'LL BE LIKE YOUR, YOUR LAST, YOUR, YOUR RESTRICTION, RIGHT? AND THEN IT'LL COME LIKE, LIKE I SAID, FROM HR TO FINANCE, AND THEN IT'LL END UP TO THE ADMINISTRATION.
AND THEN WHEN HE HITS THAT CITY, THE ADMINISTRATION NEEDS THAT, UH, HRE DID THEIR DUE DILIGENCE.
I'VE ALREADY CHECKED THE BUDGET AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT THEY'RE CAPABLE OF DOING.
AND THEN, UM, CITY ADMINISTRATION HAS THE FINAL CITY.
SO LIKE IF THERE'S A DEPARTMENT THAT HAS $300,000 LEFT, ARE YOU GOING DECIDE TO PAY SOMEONE UP TO YOU COULD POTENTIALLY GIVE SOMEONE UP TO $300,000? NO, THAT'S WHAT I SAID.
LIKE, WE HAVE TO BE REALISTIC.
SO I WOULD NEVER APPROVE ANYTHING.
SO IS IT BASED OFF OF AN AN OPINION OR IS IT BASED OFF OF A, A, A PAY SCALE, A PHYSICAL PAPER PAY SCALE AND HR? DO WE HAVE THAT? NO.
SO THAT'S WHAT I, THAT'S WHAT I'M, THAT'S WHAT I'M GETTING.
HR SAID NO, JUST FOR THE RECORD, BUT THAT'S WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE, RIGHT? A PHYSICAL PAY SCALE SO THAT THE EMPLOYEE KNOWS HOW FAR I CAN GET IN THIS POSITION.
BUT, BUT, BUT WHENEVER WE DO, UM, LIKE, LIKE A PAY SCALE LIKE THAT, YOU ALSO HAVE TO, LIKE FOR EXAMPLE, WE CAN MODIFY IT YEAR TO YEAR, RIGHT? SO WE APPROVE BUDGETS AND, AND I'LL GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE, A COMMUNICATION SPECIALIST, RIGHT? WE WERE LOSING THEM ALL AND OR BUDGET, WE HAD BUDGET CONSTRAINTS ON THAT BECAUSE WE WERE, AND, AND THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S, I REMEMBER.
AND THEN THE CHIEF CAME BACK AND ASKED FOR A BUDGET AMENDMENT AND WE GOT IT.
AND THAT'S HOW DIRECTORS LEARN TO SPEAK FOR THEIR DEPARTMENT AND TO MANAGE THEIR DEPARTMENT AND TO MANAGE THEIR BUDGET AS THEY COME BACK AND SAY, SO WHATEVER THOSE CIRCUMSTANCES TAKE.
'CAUSE THAT WAY THAT'S THE, THAT'S THE APPROACH WE TAKE WHEN IT NORMALLY IS.
LIKE WE DO HAVE THE BUDGET THERE, THEN WE WILL TAKE THE ADVANTAGE.
LIKE, UM, FOR EXAMPLE, FOR THIS BUDGET, UM, IF YOU'RE HIRING SOMEBODY THAT YOU DON'T KNOW IF IT'S GONNA, UM, SERVICE THE JOB OR, OR, OR YOU DON'T KNOW, RIGHT? WHAT THE OUTCOME WILL BE, YOU HIRE THEM AT A MINIMUM WAGE, BUT YOU BUDGET IT, I DON'T KNOW, $14.
AND IF THEY DO PASS AND THEN MAKE THE DATE SET AFTER PROBATION OR AFTER A YEAR, WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE, THEN YOU FIGURE THEY'RE, YOU GIVE 'EM A RAISE OR THEY GET CERTIFIED OR WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE, UH, WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IS A MINIMUM PAY A MIDPOINT AND THEN A MAX PAY.
AND THOSE MAX PAYS CAN GO UP ANNUALLY BASED ON COLA OR WHATEVER.
AND ONE YEAR, ONE DAY LAST YEAR, NO, NOT LAST YEAR, THE YEAR BEFORE WHEN WE APPROACHED THE INCREASE, WE DID A B SCALE LIKE THAT AND IT WAS ADOPTED THAT THAT SAME YEAR.
UM, AND THIS YEAR WE JUST EMBEDDED, LIKE, AND, AND EVERY DIRECTORS AWARE IF YOU'RE GONNA, LIKE FOR EXAMPLE, WHEN FIRE HYATT HIRES CADETS, THEY DON'T, THEY DON'T BUDGET AS CADETS,
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THEY BUDGET AS FIREFIGHTERS.'CAUSE AT SOME POINT THEY'RE GONNA BECOME FIREFIGHTERS AND THEN YOU HAVE TO HAVE THAT LINE ITEM TO PAY FOR THAT.
SO, UM, THAT'S, THAT'S EVERY DIRECTOR KNOWS THAT MAYOR DOES TAKE FOR CADET TO BECOME FIRE, 20 SOMETHING WEEKS, SOMETHING JUST TO GET THE BOTH THROUGH THE ACADEMY.
THEN ONCE YOU DO THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, YEAH.
BUT IT ALSO FALLS WITHIN, WITHIN, UM, YEARS.
SO LIKE THIS YEAR YOU STARTED AS A CONNECT AND THEN THE FOLLOWING YEAR YOU ONLY HAVE FEW WEEKS LEFT.
SO THEN THAT YEAR YOU NEED YOUR BUDGET AS, AS A FIREFIGHTER.
SO IT IS EVERY, EVERY, IT STILL SHOULD BE IN PREPARATION IN SIX MONTHS OR ONE YEAR.
THAT'S WHERE EVERYTHING IS AT.
I'M JUST GIVING AN EXAMPLE BECAUSE EVERY, WE HAVE A LOT OF DEPARTMENTS HERE IN EVERY DEPARTMENT IT'S HANDLED DIFFERENT.
YOU HAVE PEOPLE THAT COME IN WITH NO CDO DRIVE, UH, LICENSE, AND THEN THEY ACQUIRE IT, THEY ACQUIRED IT.
SO AT THE JOB, RIGHT? AND THEN, AND THAT'S WHERE THEY COME BACK.
SO WE HAVE TO BE, THAT'S WHERE BUDGETED POSITIONS FOR DEPARTMENT, RIGHT? FOR STREETS, LIKE WE HAVE FIVE BUDGETED CDL DRIVER POSITIONS FOR THIS DEPARTMENT.
SORRY, WE, YOU, I KNOW YOU HAVE THE CERTIFICATION, WE CAN'T PAY YOU RIGHT NOW BECAUSE THOSE BUDGET POSITIONS ARE TAKEN.
BUT YOU HAVE INTERNAL EMPLOYEES THAT THEY'RE AT MINIMUM PAY AND THEN THEY GO GET THEIR CDO DRIVER CDO LICENSE AND THEY JUMP TO THAT OTHER POSITION IF AVAILABLE.
RIGHT? SO, UM, EVERY DEPARTMENT HAS TO BE HANDLED WITH THEIR OWN DIRECTOR, UH, DIRECTOR IN DIFFERENT WAYS.
THAT'S WHY, THAT'S WHY WE DO THAT FOUR WAY PROCESS.
HR EXPLAIN THE CDL LICENSES AND PAYING 'EM ALL CDL, BUT THERE'S ONLY ONE DRIVING.
CDLI KNOW POLICE AND FIRES COMPLETELY DIFFERENT.
THEY ALL WANT BE ROPE TECHS AND EVERYBODY GETS PAID TO BE A ROPE TECH, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
OR E EM S CERTIFIED AND EVERYBODY GETS PAID FOR EMS CERTIFICATION.
BUT YOU KNOW, SO SOMETIMES THAT'S THE CASE.
I'M JUST TRYING TO GET AN IDEA OF WHERE WE CAN PUT SOME BOUNDARIES.
I AGREE TOO BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT THIS BUDGET, I'M JUST GONNA USE THE STREET MAINTENANCE DEPARTMENT AS AN EXAMPLE.
IT, IT IS JUST HARDENING TO SEE THAT WE HAVE EMPLOYEES THAT HAVE BEEN HERE 13 YEARS, UM, AND OUR MAKING A CERTAIN AMOUNT WHEN SOMEBODY JUST COMES IN TWO YEARS AND IT'S JUST A LITTLE UNDER 2000 LESS THAN THEM.
AND TO ME IT'S A DISSERVICE TO THE EMPLOYEES, ESPECIALLY STREET MAINTENANCE THAT ARE OUT HERE DOING THIS WORK.
UM, IT IS SOMETHING WE HAVE TO HAVE SOME KIND OF BALANCE.
SO I AGREE WE SHOULD HAVE SOME TYPE OF PROTOCOL THAT WE FEEL THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY COMPENSATE THEM SOMEHOW TOO BECAUSE 13 YEARS, I MEAN THERE'S SOME THAT HAVE BEEN HERE LONGER AS WELL AND WE NEED TO COMPENSATE THEM SOMEHOW.
SOMEBODY JUST COMING IN OFF THE STREET FOR A YEAR OR TWO AND STILL GETTING THE SAME PAY, YOU KNOW, OR LESS.
IT'S, IT'S JUST, TO ME IT'S NOT RIGHT.
THE ONLY THING IS THAT THEY STARTED LIKE A MINIMUM WAGE LIKE 10 YEARS AGO, MINIMUM WAGE.
SO THEY'VE BEEN GETTING THE BASIS AS THEY, YOU'RE RIGHT AS THEY GO.
SO THE LONGEVITY INCENTIVE, THAT'S WHERE IT TAKES PLACE.
THAT'S WHY, THAT'S WHY HAVING, HAVING A PAY SCALE IS, IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE AS WE RAISE THAT MINIMUM WAGE, THAT MINIMUM WAGE THAT THE EMPLOYEE THAT'S BEEN HERE FOR A WHILE SHOULD BE AT 5%, NOT 3% RIGHT? TO ACCOMMODATE FOR THAT, THAT BUMP AND MINIMUM WAGE A.
DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? NO, IT DOES.
BUT AGAIN, IT'S GONNA BE, SO IT COVERS, ITS YOUR POSITION TO A BUMP OF MINIMUM WAGE AND A CO ADJUSTMENT AND THEN THE NEW PERSON JUST STARTS AT THE MINIMUM WAGE.
AND THAT'S, THAT'S KIND OF WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE.
BUT IF YOU HAVE A CONSERVATION, YOU WILL GET THAT COST OF LIVING ADJUSTMENT JUST BECAUSE YOU HAVEN'T PASSED IT.
THAT'S JUST A ONE YEAR THING, BUT IT'S THE STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.
THAT PROBABLY WILL TAKE QUITE SOME TIME FOR Y'ALL TO, FOR FRED TO GET TOGETHER WITH THE TEAM AND DETERMINE SOME TYPE OF PAY SCALE SO THAT WE COULD BE GETTING SWAMPED.
BUT WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE, AT LEAST FOR DIRECTORS AND ASSISTANT DIRECTORS, THAT'S MUCH EASIER TO MANAGE, TO BE ABLE TO GET THAT TURNED AROUND AND HAVE A PAY SCALE FOR THEM.
AND I KNOW IT WAS BROUGHT UP TO Y'ALL, LIKE, LIKE I SAID A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, THE SAME DATE, A PAY SCALE TO WHAT YOU CAN MAKE
FRED, YOU THINK THAT'S MANAGEABLE? I THINK THE OTHER THING THAT COMES TO MY MIND TOO IS WITH THIS IS, UH, EMPLOYEE EVALUATIONS, ARE THOSE GETTING DONE REGULARLY? THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE A THIRD COMMISSIONARY PERIOD THEN EVERY YEAR EVALUATED.
LIKE, IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY HAS TO DO WITH ANY SATURDAY ADJUSTMENT, BUT EMPLOYEE BEING EVALUATED.
THAT'S, BUT THE DIRECT, EACH DEPARTMENT HAS ALSO MORE LIKE AN HR QUESTION.
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SO THAT'S WHERE THOSE, THAT'S WHERE THOSE, UM, THOSE RAISES COME IN.AND IF A PERFORMANCE IS DONE, THEN IT'S A PERFORMANCE BASED RAISE, RIGHT? IT'S NOT A COLD A RAISE.
IF IT WAS BUDGET FOR, IF IT, WELL, IT COULD MAKE A BUDGET SAYING THAT THE PERFORMANCE RAISE CAN BE ANYWHERE FROM ONE TO 5%.
NOW EVERYBODY'S GONNA BE LIKE, WELL I NEED TO REALLY SHOW THAT MY PERFORMANCE IS WORTH IT OR I'M NOT GONNA GET THE RAISE.
INSTEAD OF JUST SAYING, WELL, I'M GONNA GET 3% EVERY YEAR ANYWAYS.
SO, AND THAT DOESN'T, THAT'S THE BASE BEEN OVERRATED LIKE HUNDRED PERCENT EVERY YEAR.
POSSIBLY I GET TO 3% NO MATTER WHAT.
WE'VE TALKED ABOUT PERFORMANCE RATES TO BE BETTER, MAYBE A LITTLE BIT, IT TAKES A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME, BUT I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT SO THAT THE WAY I CAN SEE WHERE THEIR GROWTH IS AND IT CAN ALSO SEE WHERE THEIR MAX PAY IS.
AND AN EMPLOYEE FEELS THAT THEY NEED TO GET A JUMP IN PAY.
WELL THERE'S THESE OTHER POSITIONS.
MAYBE YOU SHOULD JUMP INTO ONE OF THESE ROLES IF YOU WANT TO MAX, IF YOU WANT TO BULK IN PAY 'CAUSE YOU'RE MAXED OUT FOR THIS POSITION AT THIS DEPARTMENT, DO YOU HAVE A, DO YOU WANT TO EXPLORE AT OTHER DEPARTMENT WITH SOME BETTER PAIN? UM, WELL, NOT ONLY THAT, BUT YOU KNOW, LIKE I SAID, YOU HAVE TO HAVE SPECIAL SKILLS.
PEOPLE OUT THERE HAVE SPECIAL SKILLS.
THAT'S WHAT, YOU KNOW, I CAN TELL YOU ABOUT THE, THE 11 4-YEAR-OLD FINE.
BUT IF THEY'RE NOT BEING, THEY BE HERE FROM DAY ONE, FROM FIVE SIX.
I REMEMBER WHEN I WENT INTO CONSTRUCTION, I WAS AT 1 90, 1 90 AN HOUR BACK THEN IN THE EARLY SEVENTIES OR MID SEVENTIES.
BUT NOW IT'S, IT'S TOTALLY DIFFERENT.
YOU HAVE SPECIAL SKILLS AGAIN, WE NEED, WE NEED TO PAY THOSE PEOPLE.
11, 12 YEARS HERE AND THERE'S STILL, YOU KNOW, A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF MONEY.
WELL, THE SPECIAL SKILLS IS THAT THEY HAVE THAT NOBODY ELSE CAN DO THAT.
IF I TELL YOU SOMEBODY RIGHT NOW, GO DO A, A BACKHOE, GO DO A MOTIVATOR.
THOSE PEOPLE ARE NOT BEING COMP COMPENSATED FOR WHAT THEY KNOW.
I DON'T CARE IF THEY'RE BEEN HERE 10, 15, 20, 30 YEARS, THEY'RE NOT BEING COMPENSATED FOR WHAT THEY KNOW.
SHOW TELL THEM TO SHOW YOU WHAT THE, WHAT THEY KNOW.
AND THEN MAYBE WE CAN LET YOU KNOW, ADJUST THEM.
THEY COME UP WITH, YOU KNOW EXACTLY THEIR CERTIFICATIONS, THEY'RE GONNA PAY THIS.
SO THE DIRECTORS OF THOSE DEPARTMENTS NEED TO COME BACK AND SAY WITH THESE CERTIFICATIONS, 2 50, 2 50, 2 52 50, WHATEVER IT MAY BE, WHATEVER THAT NOMINAL, NOMINAL AMOUNT IS.
AND THAT HAS TO COME FROM THE DIRECTOR SAYING THAT THIS IS WHAT, HOW WE GET THAT, THAT EMPLOYEE TO GET THESE CERTIFICATIONS.
I THINK THAT, AND THAT COMES FROM EVERY DEPARTMENT.
'CAUSE NOT EVERY DEPARTMENT'S GONNA NEED ALL OF THESE SPECIALIZED SKILLS AND UNDERSTAND THAT.
THAT'S WHY I'M NOT TRYING TO SAY THAT BECAUSE NOT EVERYBODY IS A, IS A A, A POLICE OFFICER FOR A FIRE ALSO.
BUT THE THING IS, IS LIKE, LIKE I SAID, IS THERE A, YOU KNOW, UM, PARKS ONE OF THEM YEAH.
OPERATOR THAT HAVE CERTIFICATIONS.
IS THERE A CERTIFICATION GUYS, UH, YOU KNOW, LOT OF, UH, UM, IS THERE A CERTIFICATION FOR BUSINESS? BIG LICENSE THAT YOU HAVE TO GET? OKAY, HOW ABOUT THE, FOR A BACKHOE? YOU HAVE CERTIFICATION FOR THAT CERTIFICATION.
HOW ABOUT A, A MOTOR? LOOK, YOU NEED TO HAVE ONE.
I I'M GONNA TAKE ONE, BUT I MEAN, I DON'T, THAT'S SO I'VE NEVER HEARD OF ANY CLASSES TO GET CERTIFIED EXACTLY FOR A BACK.
THEY DO HAVE TO, THEY HAVE TO DO SOME TYPE OF TRAINING IN HOUSE OR OSHA CERTIFICATIONS AND THINGS LIKE THAT THOUGH, RIGHT? YEP.
THERE'S SOME SAFETY CLASSES, OF COURSE.
I WAS LIKE, YOU CAN EXPLAIN ANYBODY.
I'LL TRY NOT OSHA GENERAL, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT POLICY ISSUES HERE, WHICH IS GREAT.
AND YOU THINK THIS IS IMPORTANT AND I THINK THIS POLICY BOARD NEEDS TO CLARIFY THIS POLICY.
UH, AND, AND I WOULD, UH, CHALLENGE YOU GUYS TO HELP US COME UP WITH THAT POLICY.
UM, AND I MEAN OBVIOUSLY IT GETS A LITTLE LATE THIS BUDGET, BUT WE CAN PROBABLY WORK THROUGH THAT POLICY AND THIS BUDGET AS WE SET UP AT THIS POINT, FROM WHAT I'M UNDERSTANDING FROM YOU, AT THE VERY LEAST, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOME GARBOS FOR DIRECTORS AND ASSISTANT DIRECTOR POSITIONS.
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THE VERY LEAST WE START THERE.I DON'T, I'VE SEEN SOME THINGS IN THE PAST, SO, AND I DON'T LIKE SEEING THOSE THINGS.
UM, I'D LIKE TO START ON PAGE 27 OUT OF 650.
I THOUGHT WE STARTED OVER, THAT WAS THE PREFACE.
SO, UM, BEFORE YOU GO INTO
IF ANY PERSON, WELL, LET PUT THIS WAY.
UH, AND I DON'T PUT THE CHALLENGE ANY LADY, LADIES THAT WANT TO COME ON
UH, WE THOUGHT ABOUT OCTOBER, BUT NO, NOT OCTOBER.
UH, BUT AGAIN, IF I NEED, THESE LADIES CAN COME AND NUMBERS FOR IT.
WE, WE PAY YOU, WE PAY IT ON OCTOBER.
IS THERE GONNA LIKE THREE MAYOR, ALL OUR MELINE ASIDE.
I MEAN TO COMMISSIONER GUNMAN'S POINT, I MEAN THERE'S A LOT OF, THERE'S A LOT OF WAYS TO SKIM THIS CAT.
ALRIGHT, SO YEAH, I MEAN WE'VE GOT POSITIONS, WE'VE GOT BEGINNING AND ENDING SALARIES AND WE'VE GOT DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE THAT.
BUT AS Y'ALL HAVE PROBABLY ALREADY SEEN IN THE TWO YEARS THAT I'VE BEEN HERE, UH, THE MARKET'S CHANGING DRASTICALLY.
UH, AND THEN WHAT'S AFFECTING US ALSO EXTERNALLY, NOT JUST INTERNALLY BUT EXTERNALLY, UH, AFFECTS US AS WELL.
SO, UH, THE GROWTH IN CAMERON COUNTY, A LOT OF, A LOT OF THE OPERATORS THAT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO HIRE BEFORE, WE'RE NOT ABLE TO HIRE THOSE FOLKS ANYMORE.
OKAY? BECAUSE THERE'S JUST COMPETING PRIVATE ENTERPRISES THAT ARE BEING WAY MORE SO WE HAVE TO GET MORE COMPETITIVE WHERE WE CAN'T DO WHAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO DO.
WE CAN'T PROVIDE THE SERVICE TO THE TAXPAYERS THAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO, UH, THAT WE'VE BEEN PUT HERE TO DO.
SO IT IS A BALANCING ACT FROM, YOU KNOW, FROM, FROM THE BEGINNING OF THE BUDGET TO THE END.
WE'RE LOSING 10, 50% OF PEOPLE NO MATTER WHAT.
SOMETIMES IT'S GETTING A LITTLE MORE, UH, THAT THAT NUMBER GETS HIGHER BECAUSE OF COMPETING INDUSTRIES AND ESPECIALLY PRIVATE SECTOR.
BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT WE CAN, THAT WE HAVE TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION, NOT JUST AT Y'ALL'S LEVEL, BUT AT MINE AND AT THE DEPARTMENT HEAD LEVEL TO KEEP OUR DEPARTMENT FULLY STAFFED OR AT LEAST SOMEWHAT FULLY STAFFED SO THAT WE CAN OPERATE AND WE CAN PROVIDE THE SERVICES THAT WE HAVE TO PROVIDE THE $1,200 THAT WE'RE GONNA GIVE EACH EMPLOYEE.
AND JUST TO PUT IT IN PERSPECTIVE, AGAIN, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE REALIZE SOMETHING.
UM, OUR NEW PAY SCALE IS 1285.
IF YOU DO THE MATH ON THAT TIMES, UH, A YEAR'S WORTH OF SALARY, RIGHT AROUND $26,000.
IF YOU DIVIDE THAT, UH, BY 26 K PERIODS, IT COMES OUT TO ABOUT $1,200, JUST A LITTLE BIT ABOVE.
SO BASICALLY WHAT WE'RE DOING FOR THESE NEW EMPLOYEES, THE EMPLOYEES THAT ARE JUST STARTING OUT, OR THE EMPLOYEES THAT ARE AT THE LOWER END OF OUR PAY SCALE, UH, WE'RE BASICALLY GIVING THEM A WHOLE CHECK.
UM, I WANT TO THANK Y'ALL FOR AT LEAST CONSIDERING IT.
I KNOW WE HAVEN'T APPROVED IT JUST YET, BUT FOR AN EMPLOYEE AT THAT RATE OF PAY, I MEAN THIS IS, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT CAN, YOU KNOW, HELP THEM TREMENDOUSLY AND I THINK IT'S VERY IMPACTFUL AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO HERE.
UH, ASIDE FROM THE DAY-TO-DAY WHIRLWIND AND WHAT WE HAVE TO PUT UP WITH, UH, JUST BECAUSE OF WHAT WE DO.
I MEAN, WE DO CARE ABOUT THE EMPLOYEES, I CARE ABOUT THE EMPLOYEES.
I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT.
UM, AND YES, EMPLOYEES THAT STARTED 15 YEARS AGO AT $6 AN HOUR AND NOW WE'RE AT 1285.
I MEAN THE, THAT'S A NORMAL OPERATOR THAT THAT'S A NORMAL OPERATION THAT HAPPENS AT ANY CITY.
WHEN YOU GIVE, WHEN WE GO UP TO 1285, WE
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DO NOT BRING UP THESE LOWER, THESE LOWER PAID EMPLOYEES THAT WERE HERE 15 YEARS AGO, UNFORTUNATELY CAN'T DO THAT.IT WOULD, IT WOULD, IT WOULD THROW THE, THE BUDGET OFF COMPLETELY.
AND I KNOW STEPHANIE'S ALREADY DOING THE MATH ON IT AS WE SPEAK, BUT, BUT HOW WE DO IT IS WITH LONGEVITY WITH, UH, THE BENEFITS AND, AND THE LONGEVITY IS WHERE I THINK WE COULD, UH, AGAIN, TO YOUR POINT, COMMISSIONER, REWARD THESE FOLKS FOR BEING HERE, REWARD THESE FOLKS FOR BEING LOYAL, REWARD THESE FOLKS FOR, UM, GIVING BACK TO THE COMMUNITY AND, AND STAYING WITH US.
UM, EVEN, EVEN EVEN THOUGH THEY STARTED GOING PAID.
UM, SO THAT $1,200, I THINK IT EITHER BE THE LAST, UH, PAY PERIOD IN UM, NOVEMBER OR THE FIRST ONE IN IN DECEMBER.
UM, SO WE'D LIKE TO MAKE IT JUST IN TIME FOR THE HOLIDAYS, GET THESE FOLKS SOMETHING THAT THEY CAN USE AND, AND UH, HOPEFULLY, YOU KNOW, GIVE THEM A GOOD, YOU KNOW, HAPPY HOLIDAY.
WELL, CONSIDERATION THAT NEEDS TO BE INCLUDED IS THE TAX IMPACT ON THE EMPLOYEE BECAUSE IF YOU'RE JUST GONNA THROW ANOTHER $1,200 IN THERE, THE GOVERNMENT'S GONNA TAKE A CHUNK OF THAT STUFF.
AND SO THEY WILL NOT MAYBE SEE THAT.
SO I SOMETIMES, YOU KNOW, AN OPTION OF MAYBE SPACED OUT OVER TIME SO THEY DON'T HAVE, YOU KNOW, A HUGE TAX IMPACT.
UM, AND DON'T SEE THAT MONEY ACTUALLY SEE THAT MONEY JUST ALSO, I MEAN IT'S BEEN BUDGET FOR THE TOTAL AMOUNT, BUT IT'S AFTER ADMINISTRATION AND HOW DO YOU WANT TO SPLIT IT? SO WHICH IS BETTER IN, IN INCREMENTS OR INCREMENTS IS ALL BETTER BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT WELL IT'S, IT'S ONLY 1200.
SO YOU GOTTA UNDERSTAND, LIKE LET'S SAY IF YOU DID IT YEARLY, THEY'RE GONNA GET VERY SMALL AMOUNT OF MONEY ADDITIONAL TO THE CHECK.
AND I GUESS WHAT WE TRY TO ACHIEVE, IT'S LIKE ALLOW THE LOW PAID EMPLOYEES TO GET THAT CHUNK OF MONEY AND EITHER PAYING WHATEVER THEY OWING OR LIKE COLLECT SOME SAVINGS THAT THEY, THEY'RE NOT ABLE TO DO BECAUSE THEY LIVE SPREAD OUT.
EVEN IF THEY WERE SPREADED OUT FOR, YOU KNOW, TWO OR THREE PAYCHECKS, THEY WOULDN'T, THEY WOULD BE SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCE.
UM, SO I THINK LAST TIME WE DID TWO TWO CHECKS.
I I THINK WE DID TWO CHECKS AT THE BEGINNING CHRISTMAS, NO, I THINK WE DID IT AT THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR AND THEN I HAD TO DISAGREE WITH THE GOODMAN.
THAT'S, THAT'S MY POINT IS THAT I AGREE THEY NEED TO GIVE IT TO THEM, BUT, BUT THEIR TAX, QUITE A BIT OF TAXES ARE TAKEN OUT AS RESOLVED.
THEY DON'T SEE THEY'RE GONNA GET TAX REGARDED.
THEY'LL SEE YEAH, DEPENDING ON THE AMOUNT, THEIR TAX.
WHEN WHEN, WHEN YOU'RE FOCUSED ON SOMEONE AND YOU'RE SAYING IT'S A, A LOW INCOME THAT'S $400 THAT SAY YOU GET TAX, YOU GET HUNDRED DOLLARS.
IT MAKES A DIFFERENCE THAT MONTH.
ESPECIALLY AROUND CHRISTMAS TIME.
THAT, THAT'S WHAT WE WANTED TO DO.
LIKE NOVEMBER, DECEMBER AROUND THAT THERE WE HAD, WE HAD DISCUSSED THE DATES, BUT WE HAVEN'T REALLY SET UP, WE, WE JUST KNOW THAT WE DID BUDGET THAT AMOUNT TO GIVE UP TO THE EMPLOYEES.
WE HAD EVEN SAID TWO LIKE THE 500 AND 700 SCHOOLS TO WHATEVER ALL COMES.
WE CAN ALL PUT IT ON A NUMBER, MAKE ONE NUMBER AND SEE DOUBLE ONE TIME, TIME ADJUST IT QUICK, LEAVE IT TO ADMINISTRATION TO FIGURE IT OUT.
I MEAN Y'ALL CAN FIGURE IN THE TEXT IMPLICATIONS AND ADD THAT TO THE ADD TO THE, IT IS GONNA BE VERY MINIMAL BACK TO PAGE 27 OF SEVEN.
WELL YOU SAID IT'S, IT IS GONNA MAKE A DIFFERENCE BIT, IT'LL MAKE MORE OF A DIFFERENCE IN THE SO THAT YEAH, CORRECT.
IF I MAY, I I BROUGHT UP A CAR
I WANT TO KNOW WHERE WE'RE AT WITH THAT.
WHEN YOU LOOK UH, DEEPER INTO THE DETAILS, IT DOESN'T SAY WHICH EMPLOYEES DID THE CAR ALLOWANCE EXCEPT THE CITY MANAGER.
BUT THE CITY MANAGERS BY CONTRACT HAS A CAR ALLOWANCE.
IS THIS AN ADDITIONAL CAR ALLOWANCE TO THIS CONTRACT? NO, THIS JUST ADDITIONAL
WHICH, SO I'M LOOKING AT THAT.
4,800 FRED AND YOU'RE ONLY GETTING $400.
NO, I THINK HIS CONTRACT IS 18.
WHAT IT IS, UH, COMMISSIONER, SO THAT NUMBER'S WRONG.
IS IT DIVIDED BETWEEN DEPARTMENTS? I'M NOT SURE.
THE THE NUMBER IS, IS IS DOUBLE MY AMOUNT BECAUSE I SPLIT UP, UH, ONE
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ALLOCATION FOR MS. RUTH AND ONE ALLOCATION FOR MS. GIANNA BECAUSE THEY DRIVE UP HERE, UH, WEEKENDS, THEY DRIVE UP FOR OTHER EVENTS.RUTH IS HERE SOMETIMES WHEN WE HAVE TO DO UH, OTHER, OTHER PROJECTS AND I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY WERE COMPENSATED FOR THEIR TIME.
UM, AGAIN, THIS IS ABOVE AND BEYOND COMING TO WORK FROM EIGHT TO FIVE.
SO IF YOU LOOK AT THAT AMOUNT, IT'S 750 A MONTH FOR RUTH, IT'S SEVEN 50 A MONTH FOR CAN, IF YOU DO THE MATH ON THAT, IT COMES OUT TO EXACTLY UH, WHAT YOU'RE PAYING ME BY SPLITTING IT UP BETWEEN THEM AND TWO.
AND THAT'S ACTUALLY WHAT IT'S, AND THEN TO BE, TO BE, UH, ALSO TO ADD TO THAT, MS RUTH HAD IT WHEN, WHENEVER SHE WAS IN INTERIM.
SO SHE JUST KEPT IT BUT AT LOWER RATE I IF YOU RECALL WHEN SHE WAS, SHE WAS GIVEN THE BENEFITS THAT THE CITY MANAGER HAD AND THEN UM, SO FRED, SO FRED'S NOT IN THE CAR LOGS.
UM, I'M NOT ADDING THE MATH RIGHT.
SO EITHER WAY I THINK A CAR ALLOWANCE IS NOT OKAY BECAUSE WE HAVE 265 EMPLOYEES.
WE HAVE A LOT OF DIRECTORS, WE HAVE A LOT OF ASSISTANT DIRECTORS, WE HAVE COMMISSIONERS AND MAYORS.
HOW MANY EVENTS OR MEETINGS DID YOU GO TO THIS WEEK? DON'T, DON'T EVEN ANSWER.
EVERY TIME YOU CALL HIM HE'S IN MUA, DAKOTA, VILLE OR EDINBURG AND HE DOESN'T GET A CAR ALLOWANCE.
I THINK WE CHOOSE TO WORK WHERE WE WERE.
MY DAD WORKED AT EDINBURG FOR 29 YEARS AND DROVE FROM SAN DIEGO TO EDINBURG.
TIMES WERE DIFFERENT, GAS WAS DIFFERENT, BUT WE CHOOSE TO WORK WHERE WE WERE.
I DON'T THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE TO HAVE A CAR ALLOWANCE FOR EMPLOYEES BECAUSE IT DOESN'T SHOW GOOD FAITH FOR THE OTHER EMPLOYEES.
SO FRED HAS HIS CONTRACTED BUT THAT NUMBER MIGHT BE WRONG 'CAUSE IT'S 4,800 IN THE BOOK ON PAGE 31 IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, FRED, YOU WERE AT SEVEN 50 A MONTH.
NO, IT'S UH, EVERY I SO YEAH, THAT, THAT NUMBER MIGHT BE CORRECT YOU RIGHT.
SO I MIGHT JUST WANT TO ADJUST THAT STUFF.
AND THEN YOU WANT ME TO REMOVE THE OTHER TWO? I MEAN IT'S AN INCENTIVE WOULDN'T GO.
THAT WOULD BE MY RECOMMENDATION.
IT'S VERY TOUGH TO GET CAR OUT FOR A, THEY DRIVE TO AND FROM WORK THERE NEEDS THESE CARS FOR WORK.
I UNDERSTAND YOU WORK ON WE MAYBE IT SHOULD BE INSTEAD.
I'M JUST GIVING YOU MY OPINION ON IT KIND THEN.
UM, I GOT TO EXPLAIN WE DO THAT.
WE SEE THE DIFFERENCE AT THE, ON THE REVENUE SIDE OF IT.
LIKE WE'RE LOOKING AT LIKE THE BUDGET STILL CONTINUE TO BE BALANCED, BUT YOU'LL SEE A LITTLE BIT MORE OVERHEAD IF THAT MAKES SENSE.
AND SO ONCE I TAKE IT AWAY, THAT'S THE FACT THAT IT'S GONNA SHOW ON THE FIRST BASIS OF THE STATE BECAUSE I'M PLANNING TO BRING IT TO YOU WHEN IT'S GONNA GET ADOPTED AT A SUMMARY PHASE SO YOU WON'T GET ALL THE DETAILS.
SO I DON'T HAVE TO BRING ALL OF THIS AND THIS PAPER.
WE CAN'T MAKE A DECISION HERE, RIGHT? UM, WELL WHEN YOU ADOPT IT, YOU WILL MAKE THE DECISION.
I'LL, I'LL FOLLOW YOUR RECOMMENDATION, WE'LL REMOVE IT AND THEN ONCE I BRING IT UP TO YOU AGAIN, YOU WILL SEE IT WITH THE CHANGES THAT YOU'RE PROPOSING.
I GUESS YOU CAN GET AN IDEA IF ANYBODY ELSE HAS AN OPINION ON THE TOPIC BEFORE I GO ONTO PAGE.
I THINK THAT WE SHOULD HAVE RECORDS AT LEAST, WELL AT LEAST THE RULES THAT COMES ON THE WEEKENDS.
YEAH, THAT'S UH, THE FIVE DAYS THAT SHE COMES TO FIND.
YOU DON'T WANT BEER FOR THAT ONE TO FINE, BUT AT LEAST THE MILEAGE ON THE WEEKENDS THAT SAYS SHE COMES TO TRY TO FINISH UP HER, HER WORK THAT, UH, THAT SHE NEEDS.
SO AT LEAST THAT ONE I AM, I'M, I'M SALARY.
SO I WAS AT WORK THURSDAY AND FRIDAY 12 HOUR SHIFTS AND I WAS ONLY GETTING PAID EIGHT.
MY SHIFT IS DONE AT FOUR AND I STAYED TILL 10 O'CLOCK AT NIGHT BECAUSE IM MOVING APARTMENTS.
I STAYED BECAUSE THAT'S MY JOB AND I'M SALARY AND I NEED TO COMPLETE MY TASK.
SO IF MY DUTIES GO BEYOND THE ALLOCATION OF 40 HOURS AND I CAN'T COMPLETE MY TASK WITHIN THE TIMEFRAME, THEN WE NEED MORE HELP IN THAT DEPARTMENT.
WE SHOULDN'T HAVE EMPLOYEES STAYING PAST THEIR TIME.
DID HE HELP NOW WE HAVE HELP NOW.
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JUST AS BRIGHT, BUT BE READY.UM, ANOTHER THAT BRINGS UP WITH THING I THINK ANOTHER POINT, UM, YOU KNOW, RUTH, I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU'RE DOING AND YOU DO A LOT OF WORK, BUT YOU NEED, IF YOU NEED TO STAFF YOUR DEPARTMENT, WE NEED TO STAFF YOUR DEPARTMENT.
WHY? A LOT OF THINGS I THINK THAT WE DON'T GET TRACTION IS 'CAUSE WE ALWAYS WANT TO HIRE FULL-TIME, BUT THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT WANT A PART-TIME JOB.
THEY DON'T WANT TO COMMIT THEIR ENTIRE 40 HOURS HERE.
THEY WANT TO COME IN FOR 12, 15, 16.
I SEE A LOT OF PART-TIMERS WITH AND, AND I DON'T KNOW, PUT A CAP ON IT.
SO IT MAKES IT EASIER FOR YOUR BUDGET.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT, WHAT HELPS THEY DON'T GET INSURANCE.
THEY'RE CHEAPER IN THAT RESPECT.
UM, AND THEY DON'T, YOU, YOU LIMIT OVERTIME FOR OTHER EMPLOYEES IS YOU BRING THE PART-TIMERS IN ON A SATURDAY OR AT NIGHT, WHATEVER IT MAY BE, BUT IT GIVES YOU A LOT OF FLEXIBILITY.
UM, WHY DO WE ONLY DO PART-TIMERS FOR PARKS? IS THAT JUST A THING? IS IT A CITY THING? IS IT AN US THING? YOU SAID
WOULD A DIRECTOR WANT A PART-TIMER? I'M NOT SURE MY NAME HERE.
UM, WE DO HAVE, WE HAVE HAD SOME POSITIONS, PART-TIME POSITIONS IN ADMINISTRATION FOR, FOR EXAMPLE, UM, WHEN WE HAD AN INFLUX OF UH, WHAT DO THEY CALL THEM? P REQUESTS.
WE HAVE A PART-TIME POSITION AVAILABLE, BEEN OPEN.
UM, WE HAVE HAD SEVERAL OTHER PART-TIME POSITIONS THAT HAVE BEEN OPEN.
IT'S JUST, THEY JUST DON'T, DON'T WANT THE WORK WITHOUT THE BENEFITS OR, YOU KNOW, AND DIDN'T SEND DON'T ANYMORE FOR PART TIME.
THERE'S A LOT OF PLACES DON'T GIVE YOU FULL-TIME UPFRONT.
EVEN VERY LARGE COMPANIES AND A LOT OF PLACES DON'T GIVE YOU INSURANCE UNTIL AFTER A YEAR OF WORKING WITH THEM.
WHEN DO, DO EMPLOYEES GET INSURANCE WITH THE CITY OF SAN DIEGO? WHEN THEY START WORKING, STEPHANIE PART-TIMERS DON'T GET ANY TIMERS.
UH, DEPENDING ON THE MONTH THEY LAND ON.
THAT'S REALLY AS RECENT QUESTION.
BUT I THINK IT'S LIKE CHRISTINE, IT'S THE NEXT FOLLOWING MONTH AFTER A MONTH OF WORKING WITH THE CITY.
WELL IT DEPENDS ON WHAT THEY START.
HOW MANY PEOPLE TALK ABOUT INSURANCE LATER? BUT I WANNA SEE HOW MANY PEOPLE ACTUALLY USE THE DENTAL AND VISION.
ARE WE PAYING, IS THE CITY PAYING FOR SOMETHING THAT'S NOT GETTING USED? 'CAUSE I GUARANTEE HALF THIS ROOM GOES TO MEXICO FOR THEIR CAVITIES.
I I DO IT BECAUSE IT'S CHEAPER.
SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE, IF WE'RE GONNA PAID FOR SOMETHING, MISSION SOURCE.
I DIDN'T SEE THE, UH, ATTORNEY FEES.
IS IT UNDER CITY MANAGEMENT? CITY COMMISSION? UH, LEGAL.
THIS IS SOMETHING YOU WANTED TO BRING UP WITH THE CONDITION.
IT'S ON PAGE 30, 20 20 SEVENTH.
UH, THE DETAILS OF IT IS NOT THERE.
IT'S PRETTY NOT, IT'S JUST PAGE 40 AND LEGAL SERVICES.
SO, AND THAT'S HOW IT'S BEEN FOR THE PAST THREE YEARS.
I I DON'T THINK THAT NUMBER'S GONNA STAY THE SAME.
'CAUSE NOW WE HAVE TWO ATTORNEYS.
UNLESS, UH, MR. SA WAS GETTING AN INCREDIBLE AMOUNT OF MONEY.
ONE PERSON, NO THINK HE WAS ALSO ON RETAIN, RETAIN YOUR FACES.
SO, UM, HE WAS NOT, HE WAS POWERLY.
MM-HMM
WHICH IS WHY IT'S PROBABLY BEEN SAVING US SOME MONEY.
DO WE, IT'S LIKE ME GOING AND HIRING TWO CITY MANAGERS, WHICH SOME CITIES HAVE LIKE 10 ASSISTANT CITY MANAGERS.
I DON'T KNOW WHY, BUT DO WE NEED TWO CITY ATTORNEYS? AND IF IT'S GONNA BE THE SAME COST THEN I DON'T CARE WHEN CAN MOVE ON.
IT'S THE SAME COST BECAUSE THEY'RE A FLAT RATE.
THEY'RE FLAT RATE, BUT IT'S TIMES TWO.
BY GETTING TWO FOR TWO, WE'RE GETTING TWO FOR TWO.
YOU'RE GETTING TWO REC RETAINERS FOR TWO ATTORNEYS.
THEY'RE BOTH RETAIN BUT THEY'RE BOTH BUT IT'S STILL CHEAPER THAN HIRING
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JUAN.I'M NOT SURE BECAUSE WHEN WE HAD MR. SUSIE WAS GETTING PAID HOURLY, RIGHT? YEAH, YEAH.
BUT HE WOULDN'T GO OVER THE ONE 70 EITHER.
I FEEL LIKE WE'RE GETTING MAYBE THE, BUT ALSO WE HAD LONGING SERVICES IN THE PAST, SO I'M NOT SURE QUITE A BIT.
IS THAT TOTAL AMOUNT FROM THE PREVIOUS TIME? SO WAIT, GIMME A SECOND.
THE LOBBYING SERVICES IS SOMETHING ME.
SO THE LAST, THE LAST YEAR, UM, MR. SHASU WAS HERE WAS IN 22, 23.
RIGHT? SO OH, TOTAL EXPENSE FOR LEGAL SERVICES THAT YEAR.
AND THAT WAS NOT ONLY MRS BUT ALSO THEIR ATTORNEYS.
IF WE NEEDED THEM ON AN HOURLY BASIS, LIKE
IT WAS ONE SIXTY ONE, ONE SIXTY ONE THREE HUNDRED AND SIXTY.
THAT WAS THE TOTAL AMOUNT OF LEGAL FEES FLOWING SERVICES FROM NOT ONLY MR. SASI, BUT ANYBODY THAT DID, I'M NOT SURE HOW MUCH WAS ACTUALLY TO MR. SASI.
UM, THIS YEAR, BECAUSE WE HAVE TWO ATTORNEYS.
UM, EACH OF 'EM HAS A RETAINER, RIGHT? UM, WITH ONE 70, IT'LL BE ENOUGH TO FULFILL THEIR CONTRACTS AND PAY THEM ON A 12 MONTH BASIS.
UM, HOWEVER IT WILL BE 78 TIMES, WHICH TIMES 2, 1 56 DOWN ON THERE.
YOU WERE NEEDING ADDITIONAL LOGGING SERVICES OR ADDITIONAL, UM, LEGAL COUNSELING.
WELL, WHAT I'M GETTING, I'M SAYING IS WE'RE GETTING A TWO FOR ONE DEAL.
AGAIN, THEY'RE GETTING PAID THE SAME OR LESS THAN WHAT WE WERE PAYING FOR ONE.
IF IT GOES UP, THEN EVENTUALLY WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO GET RID OF ONE.
THEY CAN ARM WRESTLE FOR ALL I CARE.
UM, I JUST, IT'S LIKE HIRING TWO LOBBYISTS.
UM, WELL THAT'S LIKE THE, THE BUDGET ITSELF HAS ONE 70 BECAUSE THAT'S WHEN HISTORICALLY, HISTORICALLY REPEAT SPENDING, RIGHT.
WHEN IT COMES TO HOW MANY ATTORNEYS, HOW MANY LEGAL, IT'S TOTALLY UP TO YOU.
THAT BUDGET CAN BE LEFT THERE.
AND THEN IF YOU DON'T USE IT BETTER FOR US.
BUT IT'S TOTALLY UP TO YOU IF YOU WANT TO HAVE TWO AGREEMENTS WITH TWO DIFFERENT ATTORNEYS.
THE QUESTION BECOMES WHAT DO WE WANT THE POLICY TO BE REGARDING ATTORNEYS? WELL, I THINK YEAH, THAT YOU KNOW WHAT THAT IS.
UM, THE, THE THREE, THERE WAS A 3D AGREEMENT I THINK.
IS THAT WITH THE HEB THAT WAS WITH HEB ISN'T THAT ALREADY DONE WITH SO THAT NEEDS TO BE SCRATCHED OFF, RIGHT? CORRECT.
I I WASN'T SURE 'CAUSE WE NEVER GOT THE LETTER OF LIKE ATTENTION.
WELL WE GOT THE C DIRECT, UH, ASSISTANT DIRECTOR HERE AND DIRECTOR.
WE NEVER GOT THE, TO MY UNDERSTANDING, YES BECAUSE I WENT TO THE PAPERWORK FOR IT, BUT IT, IT GOT TERMINATED.
BUT THEY WERE, WE WERE, I THINK WE MADE IT LAST YEAR LIKE YES, WE MADE YOUR LAST PAYMENT.
BUT I WASN'T SURE IF THAT WAS LIKE, IT WAS NEVER CONCLUSION TO IT.
AND AGAIN, IF YOU DON'T USE IT, YOU DON'T USE IT.
SO, BUT THAT WAS LIKE NOT THIS PAST YEAR, THE YEAR BEFORE AND I KNOW THE, I DON'T THINK SHE'S, NO, SHE'S LONGER THERE.
MY CONTACT THAT THE, THE LADY THAT WE USED TO DO.
SO I FOUND A HUNDRED GRAND AT THIS POINT.
WAS THAT THREE 80 OR THE CHURCH? CHURCH? NO, THE CHURCH.
DID YOU ABSTAIN? I DID, BUT SEVERAL TIMES I JUST, I'M JUST CHECKING IF THAT NUMBER'S SO I CAN SEE I A HUNDRED GRAND.
NOT THAT IT WAS JUST TOO BE CLEAR.
KNOW THAT IT'S NOT GONNA BE HERE.
SO IT'LL GO BACK TO ASSIGNMENT OF THE YEAR.
JUST EXTRA MONEY IN THE REVENUE LINE.
AN EXPENSE LINE THAT WE DON'T REALLY HAVE NEED.
BECAUSE THEN 69 CAN GET USED ANYWHERE IN THAT DEPARTMENT, RIGHT? NO, IT DON'T HAVE TO BE A BUDGET ITEM FOR THAT.
IT'S SPECIFICALLY, IT CAN'T BE USED FOR A DIFFERENT LINE ITEM.
NO, THEY DON'T HAVE TO DO UNLESS THEY'RE ACTUALLY LIKE OVER EXPENSIVE AND THEN THEY NEED THAT MONEY SOMEWHERE ELSE THEN TO DO THAT.
SO LIKE, LET'S SAY FOR EXAMPLE AT THE MIDDLE OF THE YEAR, A DEPARTMENT BUDGET FOR EQUIPMENT, I DON'T KNOW, A HUNDRED DOLLARS AND THEN THEY'RE, THEY'RE GONE.
THE A HUNDRED DOLLARS ARE GONE AND THEY NEED MONEY THERE.
UM, THEN THEY CAN PLAY IT WITH ANOTHER ONE.
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IT OUT AND THEN NEED IT MONEY THERE SO THEY CAN USE IT SOMEWHERE ELSE.BUT IT ALSO HAS TO GO THROUGH THEN THROUGH CITY MANAGEMENT FOR THAT TO BE APPROVED BEFORE THEY START USING THAT LINE ITEM AS ANOTHER RESOURCE OF REVENUE OR EXPENSE.
SO THAT, THAT IS MR I FEEL LIKE OTHER THAN TO USE THAT'S GOOD AREAS OR SOMEWHERE ELSE.
ANYBODY ELSE HAVE QUESTIONS BEFORE YOU CONTINUE? COMMISSIONER GO.
I JUST WANNA SAY TO SOME OF THE DEPARTMENTS LOOKING THROUGH THESE, THIS BIG BOOK, EVERY BOOK.
UM, I LIKE HOW SOME OF THE DEPARTMENTS ITEMIZED OF WHAT THEY NEEDED, HOW THEY CAME UP TO THE CONCLUSION OF THE AMOUNT.
THAT'S HOW I LIKE TO SEE ALL DEPARTMENTS DO.
SO WE WOULDN'T REALLY HAVE SO MANY QUESTIONS TO WHY YOU'RE SPITTING THIS MUCH, WHY YOU'RE WANTING THIS MUCH BECAUSE YOU'VE TOLD US HERE.
I KNOW THERE'S A COUPLE OTHER DEPARTMENTS ADMITTED.
IF THE REST OF THE DEPARTMENTS COULD DO THAT IN THE FUTURE, IT WOULD PROBABLY HELP US AS WELL.
UM, AND THE MEETINGS WON'T GO SO LONG.
UM,
WE WERE CONTRACTING CORRECT THE I TWO BEFORE.
HOW MITCHELL WERE WE CONTRACTING FOR PREVIOUSLY? I THINK IT'S 88,000 NUMBER.
88,000? MM-HMM
THIS WOULD BE IDEA THAT HAVE A IT THICK INHOUSE, IS THAT RIGHT? WE WERE ABLE TO FIX, WE WENT OUT TO 10,000 BECAUSE WE, MY LITTLE GIRL SAYS THAT A LOT.
SO MONTHLY IT PROFESSIONAL SERVICES, OTHER PROFESSIONAL SERVICES.
SO THAT'S WHAT COMMISSIONER
WHAT'S THE COMPANY WHO IS, SO LIKE ANYTHING THAT, THAT REQUIRES, LIKE ANYTHING THAT, OR INCOME, IT CANNOT PERFORM.
AND THEY HAVE
THAT'S WHY WE LEFT A SMALL 10,000 THERE INSTEAD OF THE 88.
BUT THAT WILL MEAN LIKE, WE'LL HAVE TO PAY THAT WE GET ONE.
THIS IS ASSUMING WE GET A DEPARTMENT HEAD AND UM, AND A HELPER OR A TECH THAT WOULD CHANGE YOUR INSURANCE UNDER THE CALL.
THAT WILL ADD TO OUR SALARIES AND OUR BENEFITS.
I THINK THE BE BENEFIT WOULD BE ABLE TO ADDING AN EMPLOYEE AND THAT WE'RE SPENDING OUT IN 2019.
WE PROBABLY COULD, BUT WE SEE WE'RE SPENDING MORE MONEY ON THIS PERSONNEL THAN SOME OF THIS CONTRACT THAN OUT.
IT'S ABOUT 70,000 DIFFERENT IF WE DO MORE IN-HOUSE, WHICH IS A HUNDRED DEBT.
AND THAT'S BUDGETING FOR TWO POSITIONS, RIGHT? THAT'S BUDGETED FOR TWO POSITIONS.
WELL, GIVEN SOME OF THE ISSUES WE'RE WALKING IN TERMS OF, UH, THINGS NOT GETTING ONLINE, SO THERE'S MORE TRANSPARENCY.
WHAT WAS THE ISSUE WITH THE WATER? WHY DID IT TAKE A WHOLE YEAR? HOW MANY MONTHS DID IT TAKE TO GET IT BACK ONLINE? WAS THAT IT ISSUE OR NO, THAT WAS THE PROGRAM.
IT JUST TOOK THEM THAT LONG TO A YEAR.
OH, WE STILL DOING BUSINESS WITH THAT COMPANY DURING CODE.
IT'S OUR, THAT SOFTWARE THAT THE WHOLE, IN ORDER FOR IT TO BE LIVE A WHOLE YEAR IN ORDER FOR IT TO BE LIVE TERM, UM, IT HAD TO BE LIKE THAT.
UM, YOU WERE PREVIOUSLY USING SOMETHING THAT, UM, A SERVICE THAT WAS NOT NECESSARILY ENCRYPTED.
AND, AND SINCE WE'RE NOW USING INCODE SERVICES NOW, WE HAVE THAT ADDED BENEFIT TO OUR CONSTITUENTS THAT, UM, THEIR DATA IS SAFE WITH IN CODE, ESPECIALLY WITH DATA BREACHES HAPPENING ACROSS THE VALLEY IN ALL CAPACITIES, WHETHER MUNICIPALITIES, HOSPITALS, UM, IT'S JUST HAPPENING MORE AND MORE OFTEN.
IT WAS JUST ONE WAY TO HELP US PROTECT THAT DATA
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WAS TO GO THROUGH AND CODE AND IT JUST TOOK THEM THAT LONG.IT WAS, IT IS AN ADDITIONAL 70 GRAND.
THAT'S NOT INCLUDING I, IT'S, BUT NO, I LIKE THAT.
YOU KNOW, STEPH, THAT YOU WERE ABLE TO BRING THE COMMUNICATIONS DOWN TO HALF.
BUT DO WE, DOES DEPART, DO THE DEPARTMENTS? WHAT, WHAT IS THE, WHAT IS IT THAT IT, EVERYTHING'S ON THE CLOUD.
SO WHAT, WHY DO WE NEED THEM IN HOUSE? FRED, YOU, YOU CREATED THIS.
SO TELL, EXPLAIN TO ME WHY YOU NEED THIS POSITION.
WHY DO YOU NEED A NEW DEPARTMENT VERSUS CONTRACTED WORK? I JUST FINISHED SAYING PART-TIME CONTRACTED WORK IS CHEAPER.
UM, I I COULD GO EITHER WAY ON THIS COMMISSIONER.
UM, WE ARE IN A GROWTH PHASE, SO HAVING SOMEBODY HERE, YOU KNOW, EIGHT, 10 HOURS A DAY IS PROBABLY A LITTLE BETTER WHEN YOU CONTRACT SERVICES LIKE THIS.
I MEAN, YEAH, WE DO, WE DO HAVE A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF PERIOD OF TIME THAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE HERE, BUT THEY'RE NOT EMPLOYEES.
SO IT MAKES IT, IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT BECAUSE WHEN WE HAVE OUR OWN EMPLOYEE, WE CAN ACTUALLY, UM, MARSHAL 'EM WHERE WE NEED 'EM AND, AND UH, UH, DISCIPLINE THEM AS WE NEED TO.
AND I KNOW THAT'S KIND OF HARSH WORK, BUT THE POINT IS THAT WE CAN PUT THEM WHERE WE NEED 'EM AND WE'RE IN CHARGE.
I MEAN, WITH THE, WITH THE, WITH THE CONTRACTED EMPLOYEE.
AGAIN, LIKE I SAID, I THINK THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE, WE TALKED ABOUT WITH WITH, WITH THE CFO AND WITH SOME OF THE DEPARTMENT HEADS.
I'M NOT NECESSARILY SOLD ON, UH, A FULL IT DEPARTMENT AT THIS POINT.
UM, AND THIS IS PART OF THE DEBATE.
THIS IS WHAT WE, THIS IS WHAT WE'RE HERE FOR.
UH, THAT'S WHY WE HAVE BUDGET WORKSHOPS.
UM, I DON'T THINK IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO DO THIS YEAR AND WE CAN PUSH OFF.
I THINK THAT WE NEED TO ADDRESS ISSUES THAT ARE BIGGER AND MORE IMPORTANT.
LIKE, UM, YEARS OF, I'M TRYING TO BE, I'M TRYING TO BE AS POLITICALLY CORRECT AS I CAN.
THERE'S, WE, I'VE INHERITED A, YOU KNOW, THE SYSTEM HERE IS A HODGEPODGE OF OLD, OLD WIRING, OLD SWITCHES, OLD NETWORKING, UH, NETWORKING HARDWARE.
AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DEALING WITH HERE.
OKAY? BUT THAT CAME FROM A CONTRACTED SERVICE.
AND THE ONLY REASON WE THOUGHT WE COULD, WE COULD DO A LITTLE BETTER, DO OUR LITTLE, DO A LITTLE BETTER IF WE HAD SOMEBODY WORKING FOR US FULL TIME IS THAT WE, WE WOULD HAVE MORE CONTROL ON IT.
NOW, I CAN'T SPEAK TO MY PREDECESSOR, I CAN'T SPEAK TO WHAT I INHERITED ALL, I MEAN, AND HOW IT HAPPENED.
I CAN TELL YOU WHAT I'M DEALING WITH NOW.
IT'S JUST YEARS OF, OF, UH, NEGLECT.
UH, THERE'S A LOT OF WIRING AND A LOT OF SWITCHES.
I'VE GOT ROUTERS AND MESH SYSTEMS THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, 15 YEARS OLD.
I SHOWED MAYOR, GOT ONE IN MY OFFICE THAT THINGS CIRCUIT 19, YOU KNOW, 19, I DON'T KNOW, 95 OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
BUT THE POINT IS, IS THAT WE'VE GOT YEARS OF CATCHING UP TO DO.
WE'VE GOT A LOT OF DEFERRED DEFERRED, UH, MAINTENANCE THAT WAS NOT DONE.
AND IT IS A LOT TO PUT ON A CONTRACTED EMPLOYEE.
MAYBE WHAT, MAYBE THERE'S A MIDDLE GROUND HERE, MAYBE TO HIRE A TECH FULL-TIME AND STILL HAVE THIS, UH, SERVICE OR MAYBE JUST DOUBLE DOWN ON THE SERVICE.
BUT WE'VE GOT, NOT ONLY DO WE NEED A WARM BODY HERE TO DO WHAT WE HAVE TO DO, AND AGAIN, WE'RE BECOMING MORE AND MORE DEPENDENT ON OUR TECH.
WE'RE GETTING MORE AND MORE DEPENDENT ON OUR PHONES, OUR LAPTOPS, OUR SURFACE PROS, EVERYTHING.
AND A LOT OF THE DEPARTMENTS HAVE OLD, UH, DESKTOPS THAT NEED TO BE, UH, THAT CONSTANTLY NEED TO BE LOOKED AT EITHER BECAUSE OF MEMORY OR BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT THEY'RE JUST OUTDATED.
AND WE'RE HAVING TO DEAL WITH THAT CURVE AS WE'RE DEALING WITH OUR EMPLOYEE OR LACK OF EMPLOYEE, UH, EITHER IN-HOUSE OR CONTRACTED.
SO IT'S A, IT'S A, WE'RE AT A TURNING POINT HERE AND WE THOUGHT MAYBE IT'D BE A GOOD IDEA.
WE, IF WE JUST BIT THE BULLET NOW AND, YOU KNOW, WE STARTED
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THE DEPARTMENT SO WE COULD, WE COULD CONCENTRATE MORE ON THE HARDWARE AND WHAT WE NEED TO DO FOR OUR NETWORKING CAPABILITIES AND GO FORWARD LIKE THAT.UM, BUT AGAIN, IT'S WHAT WE'RE HERE FOR.
IT SOUNDS TO ME LIKE WHAT WE'VE GOT IS NOT EVEN THE SCOPE OF THE WORK WITH THESE.
SO I, I THINK YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY CORRECT, MR. THE PROBLEM IS, I THINK WE LIMIT OURSELF BY GETTING ONE OR TWO EMPLOYEES TO ADDRESS THAT PROBLEM.
IT, YOU CAN RUN INTO AN IT PROBLEM.
THIS, THIS TECHNOLOGY CHANGE IS CONSTANTLY DAILY.
HAVING ONE GUY CONTRACT IT, YOU'RE BUDGETED HUNDRED AND SOME THOUSAND.
SO I'M NOT, IT'S NOT THE MONEY FOR IT.
YOU HAVE THAT MONEY TO PUT A ASIDE FOR IT AND HELP SOMEBODY TO GROW ON THAT STUFF, BUT CONTRACT IT TO DIFFERENT PEOPLE BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO HIRE A WHOLE COMPANY TO COME IN AND TAKE CARE OF SOMETHING.
MAKES A LITTLE BIT MORE FEASIBLE, BETTER ABOUT SPENDING MONEY.
THEY HAVE SPECIAL SITUATIONS WHERE, LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE, PD REQUIRES SOME CERTAIN LEVEL OF IT THAT THE REST OF THE DEPARTMENTS DON'T HAVE.
SO I SEE WHERE YOU'RE COMING FROM.
SO MY IDEA MAYBE LIKE, IT WOULD BE A LITTLE BIT OF NOT THE BEST WORLD WORLD BECAUSE WE'RE ALREADY BEHIND ON EQUIPMENT AND EVERYTHING, BUT MAYBE WE CAN TRANSFER THAT ADDITIONAL AMOUNT THAT WE'RE ADDING TO THE IP BUT TO FOR, UM, SOFTWARE MAINTENANCE EQUIPMENT.
LIKE SPLIT IT AROUND THERE SO WE CAN HAVE MORE RESOURCES TO BUY WHAT WE NEED, UM, AND THEN KEEP CONTRACTING IT OUT, UM, AT THE RATE THAT WHAT WE HAD.
SO YES, WE, WE ARE ADDING TO THE IT, BUT WE'RE ADDING IT TOWARDS THE EQUIPMENT, TOWARDS ASSETS FOR THE CITY.
WE HAVE A CONTRACT WITH THE CURRENT, UH, IT SERVICES WE'RE GETTING.
HOW, HOW LONG WAS IT FOR? WAS IT THREE YEAR? NO, I THINK IT WAS A TWO YEAR.
SO WE'RE STILL IN THE CONTRACT.
YEAH, BUT I THINK, SO WE HAVE ONE YEAR LEFT.
I THINK IT'S MAY, I BELIEVE, UM, 20 NEXT.
BUT WE CAN ALSO, LIKE WITH EVERY OTHER CONTRACT WE DO, I'M NOT SURE.
I THINK WE NEED TO READ IT, BUT WE, WE HAVE A DIRTY DAY WAY OUT WITH EVERY MOST OF OUR CONTRACT LEAST NEED SEND LETTER IF WE DECIDE TO.
SO, BUT, OR WE CAN FINISH THE TERM AND THEN WE'LL OFFER SELF CITATION AND KEEP TIME TO PREPARE FOR THAT.
UM, AND THEN SEE WHAT OUR OPTIONS ARE THEN.
AND THEN, BUT I WOULD DO SUGGEST LIKE IF YOU'RE, AND I'M SAYING BECAUSE A LOT OF OUR COMPUTERS ARE GOING DOWN A LOT, UM, JUST IN MY DEPARTMENT, LIKE WE WENT DOWN.
SO THERE WE DO, THE DIRECTORS NEED TO PUT IN, SO THIS IS WHAT I TALKED ABOUT WITH RED, RIGHT? WORK ORDERS.
DO WE HAVE ANY WAY OF TRACKING? WE DON'T EVEN HAVE A WAY OF TRACKING A WATERLINE BREAK.
YOU KNOW HOW WE HAVE A WAY, UM, NOT HOW MANY WATERLINE BREAKS DO WE HAVE RIGHT NOW? YOU SAID WORK ORDERS, THAT'S OUR TRACKING SYSTEM.
I, I, I, TRUST ME, I'VE ASKED PAST CITY ADMINISTRATION ABOUT HOW SOME OF THOSE THINGS GET FILTERED AND IT WAS A DISASTER.
WHO IS, WHO IS WORKING THEM? HOW DO THEY LOOK? LIKE, WHAT IS, WHEN IS IT GETTING CLEARED? IF THE SAME CITIZEN IS PUTTING THE SAME WORK ORDER AND SEVERAL TIMES FIVE YEARS DOWN THE ROAD, DID IT EVER GET ADDRESSED? WHEN DID IT GET ADDRESSED BY WHO? AND IT GOES BACK TO LIKE ACCOUNTABILITY.
SO YOU SAY WE HAVE A SYSTEM TO TRACK WORK ORDERS FOR WHAT DEPARTMENT? FOR, FOR ALL THE WATER DEPARTMENT.
SO LIKE, LET'S SAY YOU AS A CITIZEN CALL, UM, HERE, THE OFFICER SENT AN EMAIL AND SAY, FOR EXAMPLE, 180 8 VIRGINIA HAS IMMEDIATE LEAK AND THAT JUST HAPPENED TODAY.
I'M THANK YOU FOR THE WORK ORDER.
UM, THEN THEY SEND IT AT THE FRONT.
THE GIRL CREATES A WORK ORDER AND THEN SHE SENDS IT LIKE, LET'S SAY IT'S A WATER BREAK.
SO IT'LL BE MR. MY WIFE WATER.
UM, SHE SEND IT TO MR MAN WIFE AND MANELA SIGNS THIS TO A GUY, AND THEN THE GUY HAS TO CLOSE THE WORK ORDER WITH AN ECHO TO CLOSE.
AND EVERY BIDDING PERIOD WE DO, WE HAVE OPEN WORK ORDERS.
SO YOU HAVE TO GO BACK AND CALL AND SEE, HEY, DID YOU EVER WENT BACK AND DID THIS AND THAT IS THERE, IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE THAT END CODE FOR, FOR THAT? LIKE FOR THESE SERVICES, LIKE TO TRACK THESE, THESE WORK ORDERS? WELL, THAT'S ALREADY WHAT ALL IT COMMISSIONER, IT'S KIND, THIS IS A GREAT QUESTION.
I THINK IT'S AN IMPORTANT QUESTION TALKING ABOUT MANAGEMENT EFFICIENCY, BUT WE'RE STILL TRYING TO FIGURE OUT POLICY HERE.
MAYBE WE NEED TO GO BACK TO THE, TO TO, HE'S RIGHT.
SO ARE WE, ARE WE DOING IT DEPARTMENT? I DON'T THINK IMAGINE PERSON, SHOULD IT MAKE IT A PROFESSIONAL AND PUT IN EQUIPMENT? YES.
BECAUSE PART OF, PART OF THE RESPONSIBILITY I'D LOVE TO SEE HIM DO IS DEVELOP A SCOPE AND A SYSTEM OF CONSTANT UPGRADE AND REPLACEMENT, BETTER MANAGEMENT OF OF, OF EQUIPMENT AND SO ON.
WE'RE CURRENTLY WORKING THROUGH THIS.
UH, HE'S DOING A, A SURVEY OF ALL OF OUR EQUIPMENT RIGHT NOW, ALL THE WAY DOWN TO COMPUTERS, TO SURFERS.
TAKE A LOT MORE THAN TWO PEOPLE.
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TALKED ABOUT CHRISTINA, I WE'VE TALKED ABOUT, UH, HAVING A BAILIFF, UH, A WARRANT OFFICER, SO TO SPEAK, A DOORKNOCKING.UM, UH, DO WE HAVE THAT, UH, DO WE EVER GET THAT? YES.
THEY'RE WITH THE DEFENDANT WARRANT OFFICER.
THEY'RE NOT ON PAGE 1 42 STILL.
AS FAR AS LIKE PAIN? NO, THEY'RE PARKED WITH THE HEATER ROOM.
OH, SO IT'S A POLICE OFFICER OR A PEACE OFFICER, SOMEONE THAT'S ON MISSION TO CARRY FIREARM.
I GUESS THAT'S WHY YOU'RE THERE'S TWO.
SO THAT BUDGET NUMBER NEEDS TO CHANGE TO TWO EMPLOYEES OR IS THERE ONE CHARGED TO MUNICIPAL COURT AND ONE CHARGED TO PD? NO, NO.
SO THE WARRANT OFFICER UNDER MUNICIPAL COURT NEEDS TO BE TAKEN OFF.
IT'S, IT'S LISTED AS A STAFFING, BUT IT'S NOT IN ACTUAL HOW WANT YOU TO GET PAID? THE SALARY HAS ALWAYS COME.
IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT ON THE BUDGET FOR THEM AS A, IT'S LISTED IN STAFFING BECAUSE SHE'S ALSO LIKE, SHE'S SUPERVISING AS WELL.
WE
IT'S NOT DOUBLE THE PROFESSIONAL SERVICES.
THERE IS WHAT FOR THE MUNICIPAL COURT? IS THAT THE, UM, JUDGES AND PROSECUTOR? PROSECUTOR JUDGES AND PROSECUTOR.
JUST THE PROSECUTOR SALARIES FULL TIME.
OH, ALL THREE OF 'EM ARE UNDER, YES.
I WON'T EVEN START WITH THE PD.
SEE CHIEF CHIEF HAS THOSE BEACH READY.
ALL I WILL SAY IS WITH
THAT'S A TOTALLY DIFFERENT, DIFFERENT THING.
UM, BUT LONGEVITY PAY IS SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD LOOK AT FOR AT LEAST FIRE, UM, AND STAFFING APPROPRIATELY FOR INSURANCE PURPOSES.
WHAT DOES THAT, WHAT DOES THAT TEST THEY HAVE HERE? UH, HAVE YOU MET WITH THE FIRE PARK TOMORROW? MONDAY.
ANYTHING ELSE? UM, UM, STEPHANIE, I KNOW WE'VE TALKED ABOUT BEFORE, PREVIOUSLY, UM, OUR CHAMBER OF COMMERCE OR BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB, UM, THE ENTITIES.
AND I KNOW I SEEN SOMEWHERE ON HERE, UM, UNDER THINK CITY MANAGER OR NOT.
I, I WANNA TRY TO MAKE SURE THAT THEM ENTITIES DON'T GOTTA COME AND ASK US FOR MONEY ANYMORE.
I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IN OUR BUDGET ALREADY PROPOSED FOR THEM.
UM, I KNOW THERE'S, I KNOW WE PAY A, DUE TO THE CHAMBER, BELIEVE $500 WE PAID FOR ARE DUE.
AND THERE'S SOME WAYS THAT THE IN HERE FIND IT.
THERE'S 10,000 SHOWS FOR, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S 18,000 IT SHOWS FOR CINDY AND STUFF.
YEAH, THE, WE DID ADD IT FOR THAT.
UM, WILSON GIRLS, THE, THE ADDITIONAL MONEY AND MONEY THERE.
SO THAT SHOULD INCLUDE THE AMOUNT ASSIGNED FOR ALL OF THOSE EVENTS BECAUSE THE ASSEMBLY TO TAMER COMMERCE, BASICALLY LEADING TO CASINO NIGHT AND THE, THE TWO FUNCTIONS.
IS THAT SOMETHING BY ITSELF? WELL, THAT'S, THAT'S, SO WE HAVE THAT 18,000 AND LIKE, I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'RE, AT THE TIME THEY WERE CONDUCTING SOME SORT OF RECEPTION.
I'M NOT SURE IF
SO THE 18,000, THOSE WERE BOTH IN ENTITIES BASICALLY.
SO BASICALLY WE'RE GONNA DO 9,000 EACH, OR IT'S JUST, IT DETERMINES ON WHAT WE KNOW, WHAT YOU ALL AGREE TO.
THAT'S JUST THE PEOPLE WE DO THAT YOU HAVE TO GIVE TO THOSE AGENCIES.
I APPRECIATE THIS QUESTION, COMMISSIONER.
AND I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING ELSE THAT WE NEED TO TAKE UP AS TERMS OF, UH, POLICY AND HOW WE DO THAT.
BECAUSE I THINK THAT THERE'S MUCH MORE THE EC
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CAN DO TO SUPPORT THESE ORGANIZATIONS INSTEAD OF, WE'LL ADDRESS THAT PROBLEM LATER THIS WEEK AND WE HAVE OUR ABORTION.WELL, YOU ALL NEED TO REMEMBER THAT THE, UH, UH, IT WAS
AND THAT, THAT I KNOW OF HAS NOT HAPPENED FOR YEARS.
SO, UM, I WON'T BE SAYING IF THEY DON'T GIVE US THEIR FINANCIALS, HOW WE SECURE.
SO TO THEM, I WANT THE FINANCIALS.
I WON'T KNOW WHAT THE HECK THEY WERE.
THAT WAS WHAT IT WAS A AGREED ON.
BUT WE, THESE ARE ENTITIES THAT HELP OUR COMMUNITY.
AND I UNDERSTAND WE GIVE OUT MONEY FREELY TO OTHER ENTITIES WITHOUT ASKING FOR ANYTHING IN RETURN.
SO FOR US TO SIT HERE AND DEBATE SOMETHING LIKE THAT IS FIGHTING FOR ANOTHER MEETING.
I JUST, THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S MY GOAL THAT I WON'T BE SAYING THAT.
I THINK THERE'S SOME DISCUSSION TOO, BECAUSE THE, THEY OWN THE BUILDING AND WE BELIEVE WE OWN THE BUILDING.
SO WE NEED TO HAVE THAT DISCUSSION.
WELL, ACTUALLY ONE MORE THING TO ADD TO THAT.
WE DO HAVE A, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A, A, A CONTRACT WITH THE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB.
SO THAT CONTRACT IS RENEW YEARLY.
SO WE'RE IN THAT PROCESS RIGHT NOW.
WE NEED TO SIT WITH THEM AND DECIDE WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO GOING FORWARD.
UM, HOW MUCH THAT AMOUNT, IF ANY, IS GOING TO GET APPROVED AND THEN WE BRING IT TO YOU ALL.
I MEAN, UM, SO THAT CONTRACT, JUST SPEAKING FROM A LEGAL STANDPOINT, AND I'M GOING TO KIND OF STEP ON EITHER VIA OVU OR, OR FLOTUS, UH, IF Y'ALL RECALL, WHEN THEY DID COME AND ASK FOR MONEY FOR THAT GALA, UH, ONE OF, ONE OF THE STIPULATIONS IS THAT IT HAVE SOME SORT OF CONTRACTUAL ENGAGEMENT ATTACHED TO IT.
SO WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE IS WE'RE INCLUDING THAT 8,000 THAT YOU ALL APPROVED TO MAKE IT, OR AT LEAST TO INCLUDE IT IN THAT CONTRACT SO THAT WE'RE COVERED STATUTORILY AND BY THE TEXAS CONSTITUTION.
SO AGAIN, UH, I'M A BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB FAN.
I, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT, BUT I JUST, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE DO THIS THING CORRECTLY.
SO, UH, AND, YOU KNOW, LEGALLY, SO THAT'S REALLY THE ISSUE HERE.
IT'S NOT ABOUT, UM, WELL, AND IN THAT CONTRACT IT DOES STIPULATE THAT, UH, THEY SHOULD PROVIDE FINANCIALS, THEY SHOULD PROVIDE THOSE KIND OF THINGS BECAUSE AGAIN, THAT'S WHAT STATUTORY REQUIRED, NOT BECAUSE ANYBODY IN PARTICULAR IS TRYING TO GIVE ANYBODY A HARD TIME.
WE'RE JUST TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE COMPLY AND THAT'S IN THE LANGUAGE.
SO FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, WE'VE NEVER GOTTEN AN AUDIT FROM THEM.
SO I, I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS THE YEAR TO DO IT OR NOT.
UM, OBVIOUSLY I'M GONNA HAVE THAT CONVERSATION WITH THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR AND I'LL REPORT BACK TO YOU.
ANY OTHER THINGS? STEP, HOW DO I KNOW IF A POSITION IS FILLED, LIKE ON THE BUDGET? UM, IT, IT SHOULD SAY VACANT.
LIKE, INSTEAD OF LIKE, SO YOU SEE HOW THIS IS, UH, POSITIONED LANGUAGES THEN, UM, AN AMOUNT OF SALARY.
THEN THERE, THERE'S A WHITE AREA.
SO IT SHOULD SAY LIKE VACANT THERE AND THERE IS VACANT, WHOEVER WE DID THROUGHOUT THE NEEDS OF WHAT YOU SAID POSITION.
SO THE NEXT QUESTION, UH, IN PARKS RECREATION, HOW DO I KNOW WHAT PERCENTAGE THERE IS GOING TO ACTUAL FIXING OF THE EQUIPMENT OR PARK, I GUESS PARK EQUIPMENT, PARK IMPROVEMENTS EQUIPMENT.
THAT'S, I DON'T THINK THAT'S LIKE A WHOLE LOT OF MONEY THERE TO DO WHAT I THINK WHAT WE WANNA DO.
SUPPOSED TO, UH, PAGE 318 OR HALFWAY THROUGH.
UM, UNDER PARKS, MAINTENANCE, ALL THIS, I REMEMBER WE, WE SPLIT UP PARKS AND THEN WE SPLIT UP RECREATION, RIGHT? SO IT'S NOT PARKS AND REC ANYMORE.
I MEAN, YES, YOU HAVE, UH, SO PARKS MAINTENANCE, IT'S LIKE PUBLIC GROUNDS MAINTENANCE AND THEN YOU HAVE, IT'S JUST THE NAME WAS TOO LONG FOR US TO MAKE AND ATTACK.
AND THEN PUBLIC GROUNDS MAINTENANCE, PARKS, MAINTENANCE.
UM, SO WITHIN THE BUDGET, THEY DO HAVE LIKE 65,000 FOR LIKE PROFESSIONAL SERVICES FOR PUBLIC GROUNDS MAINTENANCE OR PARKS MAINTENANCE.
SO IF THEY WERE TO HAVE TO ME TO HIRE SOMEBODY TO DOMINATE, LIKE, I DON'T KNOW, PAY REPAID OR DO ANYTHING FROM THOSE 65, THEY, THEY COULD TAKE MONEY OUT OF THERE
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AND HAVE THOSE THINGS DUE.UM, SAME THING FOR MACHINERY, EQUIPMENT PARK IMPROVEMENTS EQUIPMENT.
YOU HAVE 34,000 PARK IMPROVEMENT MAINTENANCE, YOU HAVE 57,000.
SO THAT'S HOW MUCH THEY GOT ALLOCATED FOR THE YEAR FOR THEM TO DO ANY TYPE OF CHANGES.
SO ESSENTIALLY THIS BUDGET, IT'S, UH, ASSIGNED TO IMPROVE THE PARTS.
THAT PLAYGROUND'S LIKE A 200 GRAND PROBABLY.
SPLASHBACKS PROBABLY LIKE HALF A MIL.
PROBABLY LIKE A, SO THAT WOULD JUST HAVE TO BE SOMETHING WE WANT TO LOOK AT.
I I, I SEE THE SALARIES AND BUDGET GOING UP PROBABLY BECAUSE OF THE AMOUNT OF EMPLOYEES.
IS THERE, I HAD TO ASK QUESTIONS ABOUT FROM CITIZENS, PEOPLE IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA.
A DEDICATED DOWNTOWN TEAM? OR IS THAT IN THE, IS THE AMOUNT OF EMPLOYEES, I GUESS FOR PARKS ENOUGH EMPLOYEES JUST TO MAINTAIN WHAT WE HAVE? OR IS THERE, ARE THERE, ARE THERE GROUPS, A, B, C, D? OR HOW DO WE, MR. ELOY? YES, SIR.
I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS ABOUT PARKS.
WE HAVE THE AMOUNT OF EMPLOYEES.
AND I KNOW THAT BUREAU IS LOCKING EMPLOYEE WISE FOR MAINTENANCE, UPKEEP OF THE LAWN CARE.
THE, NOW WE HAVE TO MAINTAIN THE FIELDS, BASEBALL FIELDS.
SOME OF THOSE THAT, THAT WE HAVE IS WHAT WE HAD TALKED ABOUT EARLIER IS THE PARK HAMMER.
AND EVEN AT THAT, THEY PARK SPREAD 10, ESPECIALLY DURING GAMES.
SO INVOLVE PEOPLE, THE GROUNDSKEEPERS, GROUND, GROUND.
SO WE HAVE LIKE A DEDICATED DOWNTOWN GROUP OR DEDICATED? NO, NO, THEY JUST, UH, PARK GROUP.
JUST WHENEVER I GET A PHONE CALL OR SOMETHING THAT, THAT THERE'S A NEED.
UH, BUT THEY HAVE THEIR, UH, THEIR RUN ROBIN, THEY START OFF POINT A AND THEY, THEY, THEY COME AROUND AND THEY START.
SO SOMETIMES WE HAVE TO TAKE THEM OUT, LIKE WHEN WE HAVE THE, THE GRAPHS GOING ON AND THERE'S LIKE SPECIAL ASSIGNMENTS NEEDED OUT THERE.
SO I HAD TO PULL THEM OUT IN CERTAIN AREAS AND TAKE THEM OUT THERE.
NOW WE ARE MEETING THE STAFFING NEEDS OF THE DEPARTMENT.
SIR, WE'RE MEETING THE STAFFING NEEDS OF THE DEPARTMENT.
HOW MANY MORE? HOW MANY MORE? PROBABLY ANOTHER, WELL, UM, I WOULD NEED SOME PICKUPS FOR, SO, UH, BUT UM, I WOULD TAKE LIKE ANOTHER TEAM.
BUT, UH, AS FAR AS, UH, YOU KNOW, WE COULD ALWAYS USE, UM, ANOTHER SET OF GUYS.
SO, YOU KNOW, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT'S SUPER HOT OUTSIDE AND STUFF, UM, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES THEY DOUBLE UP ON DIFFERENT PARTS, YOU KNOW, THEY FINISH ONE PART AND THEN THEY GOTTA MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ONE.
SO, YEAH, ESPECIALLY SO WHAT YOU MEAN TEAM PUBLIC? IT'S A GROUP OF THREE, UH, FOUR, UH, YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE
I MEAN, THEY'LL WALK UP TO, YOU KNOW, 4 59, UH, THEY'RE PRETTY GOOD AT IT.
WE HAVE HARD WORKERS, UM, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO GAIN AS MUCH EQUIPMENT.
AND WE HAVE SOME NEW TRACTORS AND THEY'RE VERY PLEASED WITH THAT.
YOU KNOW, THE EQUIPMENT THAT THEY HAD BEFORE WAS REALLY BAD, SO WE KIND OF BROUGHT IT APART AS FAR AS THAT GOES.
SO WE DO NEED TO BRING SOME, SOME OTHER EQUIPMENT AS FAR AS TO MOVE UP A LITTLE BIT FASTER.
AND THAT WOULD BE MAYBE LIKE, UM, YOU KNOW, SOME, SOME TRUCKS.
AND I THINK, UM, WHICH IS ON THE, LIKE GIVING ME THE GREEN ICE.
SO WE'RE LOOKING AT IT, WE'RE THINKING ABOUT GETTING A, A, A, A HEAVY DUTY PICKUP FOR, FOR THOSE CREW THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW.
AND THAT WOULD REALLY, REALLY MAKE IT, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, VERY NEEDED.
AND EVEN WHERE DOES OUR CITY CEMETERY FALL INTO THIS? UH, WITH US AS WELL.
I'M SEEING IN THE BUDGET THE, UH, STAFFING THAT YOU, THIS CURRENTLY IT SAYS, UH, ONE DIRECTOR AND SEVEN AND A HALF MAINTENANCE GUYS.
IS THAT, THAT'S WHAT I'M SEEING RIGHT NOW.
NO, THEY ACTUALLY HAVE, THEY HAVE, UH, 12 PEOPLE, 14 PEOPLE, SO THEY CAN CONTINUE CALL.
UM, 3 21, 3 22, 23, AND 24 AND 14 PEOPLE.
THE DEPARTMENT STATING TO SIGNS THAT WHEN DOES DEPARTMENT, THE DEPARTMENT GETS TO THE, DECIDE THAT YOU NEED AN ASSISTANT, A SUPERVISOR.
SO I'VE LOOKED AT OTHER PART DEPARTMENTS, OTHER CITIES, THEY HAVE SUPERVISORS FOR THOSE TEAMS TO ENSURE THAT THOSE TEAMS ARE WORKING.
THAT'S UP TO THE CITY INDUSTRY.
UM, SO I MEAN, IT'S SOMETHING TO LOOK AT.
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LEGALLY CAN'T KEEP AN EYE ON FOR TEAMS. WELL, I HAVE VERY, WELL, SAME TIME I GOT JOEY OVER HERE, EXCEPT WE DON'T HAVE THAT TITLE.WE DON'T WANT TO PULL 'EM FROM THEIR FOCUS.
AN IMPORTANT POLICY HERE TO SAY YES OR TOMORROW, MAKE SURE THAT WE SPEND MORE, MORE MONEY IN, UH, KEEPING OUR, OUR GRASS DOWN AND OUR PLACES LOOKING NICE AND SO ON.
SO YEAH, I, WHEN WE PUT INTO THAT, THAT WOULD BE GREAT.
SO ON PAGE 3 21, THE FOURTH COLUMN, IT DOES, UH, IT'S A COPY GROUND
SO HE'S THE ONE THAT THE RIGHT.
AND HE ALSO KIND OF TAKES OVER THE, UH, CEMETERY.
IS THERE A NEED TO INCREASE THE BUDGET IF WE HAVE, OBVIOUSLY THERE'S A NEED TO INCREASE THE BUDGET FOR PARK, FOR PARKS AND, AND IF WE WANT PUT ANOTHER TEAM OUT THERE THAT'S SIR.
WELL, WE, WE ALREADY FOUND 200 AT THIS POINT.
YOU WANNA MOVE SOMEWHERE AROUND, I DON'T KNOW WHERE YOU'RE GETTING JUST OKAY.
UM, BUT IT IS KEEPING ALL OF THE MONEY.
IT IS LEAVING IT, WE'RE PUTTING INTO THE EQUIPMENT AND THE MAINTENANCE.
JUDGE, ANOTHER THING TO ADD IN HERE.
MISSION ABOUT, UH, PARKS AND REC.
WE HAVE, UH, AN AMAZING PROGRAM WITH
UM, IT'S BEEN ON FOR OVER A DECADE AND DUE TO FEDERAL CUTS, UM, THEY'RE NO LONGER IN FAVOR TO FUND THAT PROGRAM.
AND SO TEMPORARILY THEY'RE ASKING MUNICIPALITIES TO PASS THE BATON TO THEM AND HAVE THEM LEAD FOR A WHILE DEPENDING ON HOW THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT GOES.
AND, UH, LET ME ALONE IN HER PROGRAMS, UM, HAS HELPED OVER CLOSE TO 8,000 PEOPLE A YEAR THROUGH THE DIABETES PREVENTION, THROUGH HER CLASSES, UM, THROUGH THE ZUMBA, ZUMBA, ALL THE COMMERCIAL PROGRAMS THAT SHE OFFERS, UM, THROUGH HER HOME VISITS.
UM, SO IT WOULD BE EXTREMELY IMPACTFUL IF WE LOST SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
UM, AND IT'S JUST THE NATURE OF FEDERAL GRANT FUNDING.
WE NORMALLY GET AWARDED ABOUT 60,000.
GOOD THING WE HAVE FOR CONGRESSMAN ELECTIONS ARE COMING UP.
UH, I WAS LOOKING AT THE, UH, THE, UH, SECTION THAT WE DID THE SECOND, UM, THE NEW PHYSICAL EQUIPMENT.
PHYSICAL EQUIP THE PHYSICAL EQUIPMENT.
UM, THE SCENE IS GETTING BEAT UP BY THE SUN.
UM, MATTER OF FACT, UM, WE DID DISCUSS IT.
UM, UH, THE INDIVIDUALS THAT UH, PUT THAT TOGETHER, UH, GIVE THE CODE OF A LITTLE OVER A HUNDRED THOUSAND JUST TO PUT A CAN.
SO WE'RE LOOKING TO GOING ELSEWHERE.
UM, I'M THINKING THAT, UM, THERE'S PLACES OUT THERE THAT CAN DO IT FOR A LOT LESS AND GOING THAT ONE SEC.
YEAH, YOU HAVE TO USE SOMEONE IN PARTICULAR FOR THAT.
BUT I ALSO SUBMITTED TWO CANOPIES THE SIZE OF THE FITNESS COURT THROUGH
DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT'S GOING YET.
WE DO HAVE A MEETING THIS FRIDAY TO GIVE US AN UPDATE ON WHERE WE'RE AT AS FAR AS GRANTS
BUT I DID PUT IN THROUGH TWO AND ALSO A UNITED WAY.
THEY DO HAVE, AND THERE'S ALSO SOME, UH, WHAT'S IT CALLED? SKIN CANCER, SOME, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE TECHNICAL TERM IS, BUT THERE IS, THERE'S FUNDS OUT THERE THAT I DON'T NEED TO, TO TRY AND SEE IF WE CAN OFFSET THAT COST.
OH, THIS IS ONE OF THE MOST DETAILED BUDGETS.
ANYTHING ELSE? I I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S ENOUGH MONIES THERE TO ENHANCE PARKS.
UH, UPGRADE OUR EQUIPMENT, NEW EQUIPMENT.
I MEAN, 'CAUSE THOSE HAVE BEEN THERE FOR YEARS.
AND MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE A D EIGHT AND TRIBAL AS WELL.
THAT'S ONE OF THE BIG CONCERNS.
DO WE STILL HAVE SOUTH TEXAS MUSICFEST? NO.
HAVEN'T HAD IT FOR THE PAST TWO YEARS.
THAT'S PAGE, UM, 365 OR ANY THERE ELO
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TO MY UNDERSTANDING WAS THAT IT HADN'T BEEN JUST BECAUSE WEATHER HASN'T PERMITTED IT THE PAST TWO MINUTES.I MEAN THAT, I'M NOT SURE IF IT'S HAPPENING.
I THINK IT'S PROBABLY 'CAUSE WE JUST HAD SOME BAD LUCK WITH THE WEATHER LOSSES DIDN'T PAN OUT, RIGHT.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S THE REASONING WHY IT HASN'T BEEN, I WOULD SAY JUST SCRATCH IT.
OR YOU HAVE A BUNCH OF OTHER GREAT FESTIVALS GOING ON.
UM, I THINK THAT ONE WAS THE ONE THAT WAS A LITTLE BIT BACK TO SCHOOL-ISH.
AND WE DO BACK TO SCHOOL EVENTS AND THEY KIND OF OVERLAP WITH LIKE PD AND THEN IF IT RAINS AND THEN WE MOVE EVERYTHING TOGETHER.
I THINK IT'S ALSO RAINY SEASON, AUGUST, SEPTEMBER.
BUT I THINK THAT'S WHAT HAD HAPPENED BECAUSE IT, IT, THE WEATHER HAD ANY LAST YEAR WE HAD A STORM COMING IN, SO WE'RE UP TO 190,000.
YOU WANT TO, YOU WANT TO COMPLETELY REMOVE THAT, THAT AMOUNT FROM PAYMENTS? NOT SURE.
MOVE IT OVER TO VEHICLES TWO SEVEN.
UM, LEVY HAD THE RESOURCES AND THE TEAM WELL HERSELF RUN IT, WHICH IS PRETTY IMPRESSIVE.
UM, YOU COULD MOVE IT TO THE RECREATION SIDE.
DO YOU KNOW SPANISH, GEORGIA, C
RIGHT? THE SEVEN NEVER HEARD THE TERM.
SO MOST THE WHOLE, 'CAUSE WE HAD THOUGHT ABOUT IT.
IT'S, IT'S BEST THAT THE RECREATION IN ORDER TO INHERIT IT TO THE CITY'S BUDGET, IT'LL QUALIFY FOR RECREATION.
BUT YOU'RE SAYING JOEY'S GONNA NEED JOEY IN CHARGE.
DID NOT MISS LUDY OR ALSO MISS LUDY.
THEY HOLD, YOU'RE SAYING TO KEEP HER ON BOARD, CORRECT.
WELL, 'CAUSE SHE'S THE ONE THAT UNDERSTANDS THE PROGRAM BACK AND FORTH.
AND DOES HE AND RON BEING CERTIFIED FOR THE DIABETES CLASSES FOR ANY AGGRESSION? THAT'S THE TERM.
LET'S, UH, LET'S TALK H RTV DOES DOES THAT THEY MIGHT, MAYBE WE CAN PARTNER WITH SOMEONE CLOSER TO HOME THAT HAS A SOLD OUT FIRST FOOTBALL GAME FOR THE YEAR AND WANTS TO DONATE TO AN UNDERSERVED COMMUNITY.
SO LET'S TALK TO UT RGV ABOUT MAYBE PARTNERING WITH THEM.
SO WHAT'S THE GO TO? BECAUSE WE, I HAVE TO MAKE CHANGES, BUT WHAT, WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE? SO LET, IT'S GONNA BE EITHER WITHOUT A JOB OR ARE WE, DOES SHE HAVE THE PEOPLE? DOES SHE HAVE THE PEOPLE? YES.
SHE HAS THE INSTRUCTORS THROUGH UT HEALTH SYSTEM AND SHE, SHE'S BEEN WITH THE CITY FOR MANY, MANY YEARS AS WELL.
TALKING ABOUT ATTENTION EVEN AS A BLANKET IN CASE THEY NEED IT.
WELL, I MEAN YOU CAN, YOU CAN MOVE THE FUNDS WHERE RECREATION AND ASSIGN IT TO A WELLNESS HEALTH SITUATED AMOUNT.
AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO THE 90, YOU CAN DO THE 60, WHICH IS WHAT THAT WHOLE PROGRAM WAS.
'CAUSE JOEY'S GONNA NEED BATTING CAGES, TURF CANOPIES, NEW FENCES, SCOREBOARDS.
SO PARKING PERMIT, NEW RESTROOMS, TOILET SEATS.
QUITE A BIT OF FUNDS IN CPG THAT, UM, POCKETS OF FUNDS THAT I HAD DISCUSSED AT THE PREVIOUS.
IS THAT GONNA STAY AROUND CPG? THAT'S, UM, BEFORE SO GOOD.
UM, WE, WE ALREADY SUBMITTED OUR ACTION PLAN AND WE'RE WORKING ON OUR CONSOLIDATING PLAN.
UM, BUT WE DID SPEND SOME FUNDS TO DO RESTROOMS IN HOUSE, UM, AT UH, KENNEDY PARK.
AND WE HADED, UH, BROKE GROUND ON LAND ROOM RESTROOMS. AND WE DID SPEND SOME FUNDS DOWN TO BUY PARK EQUIPMENT, UM, FOR SEVERAL OF THE LOW TO MODERATE INCOME AREAS.
AND ALL THIS EQUIPMENT IS THINGS THAT OUR GUYS CAN PUT IN THE GROUND.
SO IT'S A LOT OF SWEAT EQUITY.
WE TRY TO USE MANY OF THOSE DOLLARS TO BUY, UM, PARK EQUIPMENT THAT QUALIFIES FOR CG UNDER SAFETY RESTRICTION.
SIR, MR. EWAY, I HAVE A QUESTION.
THIS 50 GRAND FOR BASEBALL TEAM THAT'S NEW, THAT WAS, UH, APPROVED LAST YEAR THROUGH TO ABSORB PING.
IT WAS PREVIOUSLY RUN THROUGH A PRIVATELY AND, UM, COMMUNITY ASKED FOR IF WE COULD BRING IT BACK AND REABSORB IT.
AND SO THAT'S, THAT'S THE DOLLAR AMOUNT THAT IT TAKES TO BUY EQUIPMENT, TO LEAK, LEAK FEES AND TO, AND ALL THAT GOOD STUFF.
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OR STAFF AND TOURISM.ISN'T IT REVENUE FROM THAT EVENT, WE YOU PUT TEAMS TOGETHER, CHARGE TEAMS AND STUFF.
MATTER OF FACT, WE DID PRETTY GOOD.
UH, WE HAD A COUPLE TOURNAMENTS.
WE TURNED AROUND AND USED THAT MONEY TO, UH, UPGRADE OUR LIGHTS AND THAT.
BUT THAT WAS PONY, UH, THAT WAS YES.
WE THE PONY THAT UH, THE PANTRY AND THE TICKETS.
THE SECTION STAND AND THE UH, THE DOOR ENTRY AND ENTRY.
BY BRINGING THEM BACK, WILL THE REST OF THE, THE TEAMS, WILL THEY BE PUSHED UP? YEAH.
WELL I, I'M LOOKING AT DO SOMETHING.
WE, WE BUDGETING $50,000, BUT IF WE'RE MAKING SOME MONEY OFF OF IT, BECAUSE THE OTHER, THE OTHER ORGANIZATION THAT DID IT WAS MAKING MONEY.
WELL LICENSE WE MADE, WE MADE SOME MONEY THIS SEASON ONLY BECAUSE WE HAD PUT IN A BID FOR HOSTING A TOURNAMENT.
BUT THE THING IS, IS THAT IT'S, I HATE TO SAY IT, BUT IT'S VERY POLITICAL.
YOU KNOW, THAT THE MORE TEAMS AND THE MORE PLAYERS YOU BRING IN ON THE PONY STRUCTURE, THE MORE LIKELIHOOD YOU'RE GONNA HOST A TOURNAMENT OR YOU'RE GONNA HOST A PLAYOFF OR YOU'RE GONNA HOST A LITTLE, YOU KNOW, WORLD SERIES, WHATEVER THEIR, THEIR LEVELS ARE.
SO WE HAD THE ONE MID-SEASON TOURNAMENT.
WE WERE ON THE LIST TO GET ANOTHER, UH, END OF SEASON TOURNAMENT GOING INTO THE PLAYOFFS.
BUT WE GOT SNUG BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE A HIGH NUMBER OF REGISTER.
AND PONY IS REALLY SELECT MINDED.
THEY'RE NOT RECREATIONAL FRIENDLY ANYMORE.
THAT WHAT I'VE SEEN, THERE'S A LOT OF MUNICIPALITIES GOING OPPOSITE WAYS, BUT IN A SENSE, IF WE WANT PHONY, WE HAVE TO BE COMPETITIVE IN ORDER FOR IT TO LIKE WORK.
SO WE, THAT'S HOW YOU BRING A LOT OF THE, THE KIDS.
YOU SAID PONY YOU SPORTS IS A, IS A HUGE TOURISM ISSUE AS WELL AS A CULTURAL ISSUE.
AND SO I, I THINK WE REALLY NEED TO LOOK AT THAT.
I MEAN, WE WOULD'VE TO, YOU KNOW, OPEN UP AVAIL FOR, YOU KNOW, WEEKEND TOURNAMENTS, HOSTING OTHER THINGS.
I MEAN, THERE ARE SOME OPPORTUNITIES, UH, KIDS THAT ARE A PART OF THE PONY STRUCTURE, THEY HAVE, UM, THEY, THEY RAISE MONEY FOR, YOU KNOW, GOING TO A WORLD SERIES OR THEY'RE GOING FOR THIS AND THAT.
SOME OF THESE TEAMS LIKE TO RENT THE FIELD AND RUN THEIR OWN, YOU KNOW, SELECT TEAMS. YEAH, SELECT TEAMS. THE SELECT WORLD.
IF WE OPEN IT UP, YOU'LL SEE A LOT OF THAT COMING AROUND.
SO I, THEY'RE GAME COMPETITIVE SPORTS IS GETTING RIDICULOUS FOR, UM, I'VE SEEN WHERE THEY'RE JUST RUNNING THE FIELDS AND YOU MAKE A PERCENTAGE OFF OF THAT AND PEOPLE ARE LOOKING TO RENT FIELDS, THEY'RE RENTING 'EM ALL OVER THE PLACE.
SO THE, THE DECISION IS IF THE COMMISSION WANTS TO GO RECREATIONAL ROUTE OR STAY COMPETITIVE NOW, I, I KIND OF SEE THE BENEFIT.
I WAS IN IT WHEN IT WAS RECREATIONAL AND THAT'S WHY I'M STILL SITTING HERE.
I DIDN'T GO PLAY NBA, I DON'T KNOW IF IT WOULD'VE HELPED, BUT IT PROBABLY DID, WOULDN'T HAVE.
BUT, UM, SOMETIMES THEY'LL DO, A TEAM OF HALF CAN BE YOUR SELECT TEAM, YOUR COMPETITIVE TEAM, AND THEN THE OTHER HALF YOU HAVE TO DRAFT RANDOM PLAYERS.
SO THAT WAY IT MAKES IT FAIR ACROSS THE BOARD.
YOU DON'T JUST HAVE A POWER TEAM AND YOU HAVE THESE POWER TEAMS THAT GO AND JUST SWEEP THE TOURNAMENT.
AND THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT PARENTS ARE LIKE DOING RIGHT NOW.
THEY'RE JOINING THEIR OWN TEAMS AND THEY'RE DOING EVERYTHING COMPETITIVE.
THAT'S WHY YOU SEE A LOT OF CITIES GOING REDOING THEIR FIELDS AND MOSTLY TOURNAMENTS.
THE OLD, THE OLD PONY DAYS OF GETTING DRAFTED AND ALL THAT, THAT THAT DOESN'T EXIST.
NORTH SELECT TEAMS UP NORTH, THAT'S WHAT THEY DID AT A SELECT TEAM WENT UP THERE.
THEY WERE SHOCKED THAT, THAT THIS WAS HAPPENING BECAUSE THEY WENT WITH THIS POWER TEAM AND THEN THEY HAD TO SPLIT UP INTO TWO TEAMS. WELL, I'M JUST LOOKING AT THIS AND KIND OF WONDERING, OKAY, DOES IT BECOME REALLY AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ISSUE ISSUE MORE THAN IT DOES TO BECOME JUST A CITY PARKS REC ISSUE? SPORTS TOURISM.
AND, AND WE LOOK AT IT FROM THAT STANDPOINT AND SHOULD WE GO OUT THERE AND BE LOOKING AT IT ING OUR FIELDS SO THAT WE CAN BRING IN MORE, UH, AND WE SET THE SCRIPTURE, BUT I'M JUST, THAT'S JUST MORE, WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT LATER THIS WEEK, BUT, AND SEE WHAT IT IS WE CAN DO.
BUT IT'S NOT ONLY NY SIR, IT IS ALSO HIGH SCHOOL, YOU KNOW? SURE.
HAVING VOLLEYBALL TOURNAMENTS HERE FOR THE GREYHOUNDS, BRINGING IN RIVALS.
I MEAN THAT USED TO HAPPEN ON THE REGULAR YEAR WHEN I WAS YOUNGER TOO.
SO, I MEAN, AND WE DO HAVE THE HIGH SCHOOL TEAMS PRACTICING ON OUR FIELD, YOU KNOW, AND THEY'RE, WE'RE HAVING THEM, UM, THERE WITH THEM ACCESSING 'EM, TRYING TO OPEN THEM UP TO THE FACT THAT IT'S THERE FOR THEM.
YOU KNOW? SO THEY WANT TO BE THE HOME TEAM AGAIN AND COME PLAY AT HOME.
'CAUSE THEY HAVE TO TRAVEL HARLAN AND BROWNVILLE.
MCALLEN IS A BIG MONEY TICKET BECAUSE THEY DID THE, THE ALTER INFIELD AND THEY HOST EVERY SINGLE 6, 8, 5, 8 THING AND 3:00 AM IN SUN.
IT'S, IT IS AN, IT IS AN ANIMAL, YOU KNOW, BUT I'M LOOKING YEAH, I UNDERSTAND.
I'M JUST LOOKING AT THE $50,000.
ALLOTMENT ON HERE AND KIND OF GOING, OKAY, WHAT WE'RE REALLY GONNA DO WITH THAT.
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BRINGING IN FUNDS AND THERE'S NO REVENUE SHOWING ON THIS IS HERE FROM ANY OF THAT.SO I'M JUST KIND OF, THEN AGAIN, WE START THIS YEAR.
WE JUST TOOK IT OVER AND IT WAS A COUPLE OF, YEAH, YEAH.
WE WERE, WE HAD A FEW LITTLE STUMBLES.
IT WASN'T COMPLETELY FLAWLESS, BUT AGAIN, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING.
SO IT COULD BE A WHOLE DIFFERENT SITUATION THIS TIME.
AND THEY, THEY DID MAKE A LOT OF MONEY IN THE CONCESSIONS.
UH, AND YOU KNOW, THERE IS TOURNAMENTS, THERE'S SOME OTHER STUFF.
WE'VE GOT A GRANT PENDING TO SEE IF WE CAN RE TO RE YOU KNOW, REDO THAT PARK SO THAT WE COULD HAVE A BETTER FACILITY FOR THESE KIND OF THINGS.
AND NOT JUST FOR OUR PONY LEAGUE, BUT ALSO FOR TRAVELING TEAMS AND DIFFERENT PEOPLE THAT WANT TO COME AND RENT IT.
AND THE REAL OFF SHOES, LIKE YOU SAID, IT'S ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
SO FOLKS COME IN, THEY COME TO OUR CITY, THEY STAY, IT'S USUALLY A MULTI-DAY THING.
AND YOU KNOW, THEY EVEN RESTAURANTS, I GUESS THEY IN OUR HOTEL IS, AND UH, YOU KNOW, MOVE LIKE THAT.
BUT IT'S, IT IS A, IT IS A
SO AND THE AMOUNT OF SIGN, I'M SORRY, UH, IT'S BECAUSE THERE'S SOME REQUIREMENTS WE HAVE TO PROVIDE 'EM EQUIPMENT, HAVE TO PROVIDE 'EM SHIRTS, CAPS EVERY YEAR.
SO, UM, AND DEPENDING ON HOW MANY TEAMS, THAT'S HOW MUCH WE NEED TO BUY.
SO THAT, WELL, I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THAT REPORT INCLUDED IN SOME REPORT TO THE COUNCIL.
ANYTHING ELSE? THAT WAS JUST PAGE 300.
I THINK IF THEY LIBRARY NEEDS ANYTHING.
I SEE SOME INCREASE IN EQUIPMENT TECHNOLOGY TO LET US KNOW.
THEY GOT SOME MORE EMPLOYEES, SO THAT'S GOOD.
CULTURAL ARTS HAS SOME MORE EMPLOYEES.
SOME OF THAT MONEY'S COMING FROM HOT FUNDS.
I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT A PORTION OF HOT FUNDS CONTINUE.
COMMISSIONER GOODMAN TO THE CULTURAL ARTS CENTER POINT TO HIM.
'CAUSE HE'S ON OUR HOT FUNDS COMMITTEE HOTEL.
THERE'S A LOT MORE HOT MONEY COMING UP.
WHAT'S THAT CITY NOW? RIGHT NOW? 750.
WE SPENT SOME FOR THE CONCERT SERIES.
THE WATER FUND HAS BEEN, UH, THIS IS IN, THIS IS INCORPORATING THE INCREASE IN THE RATE THAT THE COMMISSION HAS HIRED ON FOR THE EMPLOYEES IN THE CITY ADDRESS.
NO, UM, THE WATER PRODUCTION FUND IS INCLUDING THE WATER RATE INCREASE.
PARDON? THE, A ORDINANCE? YES.
I SEE PLANT TWO IS SIGNIFICANTLY MORE EXPENSIVE THAN PREVIOUS YEARS.
DO YOU KNOW WHAT PAGE? WHAT UH, PAGE FOUR 11.
WHERE ARE WE AT WITH THE, THAT DEBT? THERE WAS A DEBT.
WE, WE, UM, SO THAT'S A SECOND QUESTION, BUT WHAT'S THE, UM, WHAT'S THE REASON FOR THAT LARGE INCREASE IN PLANT TWO? DID WE BREAK IT UP AS A PLANT ONE, PLANT TWO.
IT'S SOLD RIGHT? PLANT ONE PLANTED TWO BY BUDGET.
WE USED TO DO PLANT ONE, PLANT TWO.
WE DO, WE DO 3 85 DIFFERENT PROCESS.
WE SKIPPED A WHOLE HUNDRED PAGES.
UM, I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT PLAN TWO WENT UP.
SO, UM, EXAGGERATED, DO WE NEED TO GO BACK TO A CONVENTIONAL PLAN? DO WE NEED TO CHANGE IT? A CONVENTIONAL PLAN? JUST FOR THE RECORD.
WE DIDN'T SKIP, I I SKIPPED THEY'RE HERE.
IS IT CHEMICALS, ALL THAT DIRECTORS AROUND HERE? NO.
TYPICALLY IT'S BEEN CHEMICALS CHEMICAL.
NO, THAT WASN'T THE, THE CHANGE I SEE ON S BUT I DON'T SEE A, A BIG, BIG CHANGE.
BUT IF YOU GO TO PAGE WATER PRIME VARIATION TO ONE FROM 7 32 TO 7 62, THAT'S ON PAGE 4 43.
SO, UM, WE DID, YOU SAID THE C NO, I'M SORRY.
THE MINIMUM WAGE AND THAT'S THE BOTTOM OF THE HAT.
SO BACK IN 20 22, 20 23 IT WAS 4 43 AN NOW WE'RE AT 7 62.
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I FEEL LIKE WE EVERYTHING STABBED COMPLETELY.AND SO WHEN YOU SEE IT, YOU SEE IT ON ACTUAL FOR 2224, UM, NO, 22, 23, 20, 23, 22, 22, 24.
YOU'RE ABLE TO SEE LIKE THE, WHAT THE ACTUAL WAS VERSUS WHAT IT WAS BUDGETED.
AND THEN FOR THIS YEAR WE BUDGET, UH, 7 32.
BEEN, I'M SORRY, FOR THE CURRENT YEAR.
AND THEN FOR THE UPCOMING YEAR, 25, 26 WE DID 7 62.
BUT THAT'S BECAUSE OF THE, THE, MAYBE THE SALARIES ARE AFFECTING THAT NUMBER.
YEAH, I SEE CHEMICALS IN SALARIES BEING A BIG ONE.
WE'RE GOING OUT FOR CHEMICALS AGAIN.
ALRIGHT JUDGE, WE'RE GOING OUT FOR BIDS OF CHEMICALS.
YES, WE'RE, HAVE WE LOOKED AT THE FEASIBILITY OF METER READERS VERSUS SMART METERS.
NOT HAVE TO DO 'EM ALL AT ONCE, BUT I I UM, WE'RE WORKING ON CHANGING I
UM, I KNOW WHENEVER WE WERE HAVING THE APA MONEY AVAILABLE, WE WERE LOOKING INTO LIKE, OH, MAYBE IT'LL BE A GOOD PROJECT TO CHANGE THE SMART METERS.
UH, THE ONLY THING THAT IT WAS, THE EXPENSE WAS BIGGER THAN WHAT WE THOUGHT BECAUSE WE HAVE TO COME UP WITH THE TOWERS AS WELL.
NOT ONLY CHANGING ALL THE DEVICES, BUT ALSO WE HAVE 7,000 ACCOUNTS.
SO WE'LL BE LIKE CHANGING 7,000 DEVICES AND THEN PUTTING TOWERS.
AND THEN WE HAD SAID, OKAY, LET'S DO IT IN SECTION.
SO LET'S JUST DO THIS AREA RIGHT NOW AND THEN WE'LL KEEP LIKE THAT.
BUT WE, WE TRY TO LOOK FOR IT IN DIFFERENT ASPECTS OF HOW IS THAT GONNA LIKE IF WE CAN ACTUALLY DO THAT.
UM, BUT UM, UNFORTUNATELY IT WAS, WE COULD HAVE DONE MUCH OTHER INFRASTRUCTURE, UH, FIXING AND REPLACING WITH OUR COMPANY THAN WHAT IT WOULD'VE BEEN WITH THE METERS.
UM, WE DO HAVE THREE ZONE AND WE HAVE FOUR METER READERS AND SO FAR SO GOOD.
IT'S WORKING OUT THAT THEY GET TO READ.
UM, RECENTLY, UM, WE'RE WE'RE WORKING ON THAT LIST TO UPGRADE.
AT LEAST THOSE ARE HARD TO READ BECAUSE IT'S JUST A LITTLE BIT DIFFICULT TO SET UP APPOINTMENTS WITH THE CITIZENS TO SAY, HEY, THIS DAY WE'RE GONNA STOP BY HERE.
PLEASE PUT YOUR DOGS AWAY SO THEY CAN GO IN OR HAVE THE GATE OPEN.
THE NEIGHBORHOOD DOGS THAT SO IT BELONG EVERYBODY.
WELL, THE ONES IN THE HOUSE, I MEAN THAT'S DIFFERENT.
BUT UM, THE BEES ARE ALSO A THING.
THERE'S A LOT OF REASON AND METERS.
AND THAT'S LOOKING FOR WAYS FOR EFFICIENCY.
WE GET A CCQ WATER LOSS REPORT ANNUALLY, I THINK, RIGHT? YES.
THAT'S, WHO KNOWS THAT MR. EZ THAT'S IMPORTANT TO LOOK AT.
I THINK THE COMMISSION WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT SO THEY CAN SEE HOW MUCH WATER LOSS WE HAVE COMPARED TO THE WHAT SHOULD BE THE AVERAGE.
IS THAT WITH THE CUP THAT YOU DRINK? EXCUSE YOUR GUY THAT YOU TOOK A SIP.
I THINK I'M, I THINK I'M, YOU GET WHAT PAGE? 6 75.
JUST THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT ACTUALLY.
UM, I SEE THAT YOU, YOU ALSO SUPPLY THIS WITH THE, THESE FOUR GRAND.
IT'S BECAUSE WE HAVE, UH, STORAGE TINY ROOM WHERE LIKE THE DEPARTMENTS RUN LOW END SUPPLIES AND THEY NEED IMMEDIATELY THEY GO AND THEN WE CHARGE EM FOR IT.
SO YEAH, SO I MEAN, KNOW THOSE THINGS ARE GETTING WEIRD.
LIKE WE KNOW BINDERS, LIKE STICKY NOTE PADS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
WE HAVEN'T REACHED OUT IN A WHILE.
AND THEN, I MEAN, A LOT OF PAPER AND A LOT OF PAPER.
THE, IT'S 4,000 MORE, 8,000 MORE.
AND ALSO IN YOUR PROFESSIONAL SERVICE AS WELL WENT UP 8,040 2002.
I'M SORRY, WHEN, UH, 30,000 WENT UP.
I KNOW THERE'S ANOTHER ONE THAT YOU HAD WAS OKAY HERE IT WAS YOUR PRINTING FORMS AND I'M ASSUMING THIS MORE
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WORK AND WHATNOT.'CAUSE IT WENT FROM 3,800 TO 8,000.
IT'S FOR, IT'S FOR UM, WHERE WE ADVERTISE FOR THE NEWSPAPER.
AND I'M, WE'RE RECENTLY, RECENTLY GETTING MORE PROJECTS FROM, SO THERE'S A LOT OF ADVERTIS, BUT THIS ONE IS PRINTING FORMS AND ADVERTISING FOR THE
NOW THERE WAS ANOTHER ONE TOO.
ISN'T THERE NEW, UH, REGULATIONS ABOUT, UH, ADVERTISING? I THINK, I THINK WE'RE OR OR MORE ADVERTISE.
YEAH, NO, I PROBABLY ADVERTISE FOR, IT HAS TO BE THROUGH THE NEWSPAPER.
I THINK, I THINK THINK THAT'S CHANGING.
I THINK THERE'S BEEN SOME CHANGES THERE.
LEGISLATURE SAID THERE, I THINK IT WAS SOME SORT OF LIKE CHARTER THAT WE HAVE TO DO IT IN THEIR LOCAL NEWSPAPER.
SO WHATEVER THE, THE, I KNOW THAT'S WHAT IT'S BEEN, BUT WHO SEES IT? BUT IT'S, THEY, THEY'RE LOOKING TO INCREASE.
SO HOW MUCH IS, IT'S A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF FEE RADIUS OUT AND THEY'RE TRYING TO MAKE THAT SMALLER.
THE REASON WE SEE MORE CHARGES THERE IS BECAUSE THIS COMMISSION HAS ACTUALLY BEEN LOOKING TO DO PROJECTS.
SO YOU HAVE TO DO A LOT MORE WORK.
OR PREVIOUSLY THE COMMISSION HAS DECIDED TO HOLD BACK MONIES TO SAVE MONIES FOR, FOR PRINTING AND ADVERTISEMENT.
UM, OR CHECKS USED TO GET GIVEN AWAY, LIKE A CHECK PAPER.
NOW WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO BUY OUR OWN WITH THE BANK.
SO WE ARE, THAT'S ALSO ADDED, ADDED THERE.
UM, AND THEN AGAIN, WE'RE GOING TO A LOT OF MORE BIDS THAT WE NORMALLY WOULD 'CAUSE A LOT OF THINGS MOVE OVER THE THRESHOLD.
WE HAVE TO ADVERTISE AND DO THE BID PROCESS.
SO IT, IT IS A LITTLE BIT MORE.
AND THEN WE DO IT BASED ON THE, ON OUR, THE EXPENSES.
SO WE SEE HOW MUCH WE SPENT DURING THE YEAR AND THEN WE'LL GO LIKE, OKAY, IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE WE NEED MORE THERE.
AND ALSO ON THE EMPLOYEE'S EXPENSES, THE CITY LOGO SHIRTS EIGHT EMPLOYEES AND WENT UP FROM 2000 TO 5,000 WERE NO SHIRTS.
BUT UM, UM, GANS AS WELL FOR THE GIRLS
SO, BUT UM, AGREE THAT FOR THE CITY SHIRTS
AND WE, SO SOME SIZES ARE LIKE A LITTLE BIT MORE EXPENSIVE.
36, IT'S MORE OF A UNIFORM THING.
WE'RE TRYING TO, I MEAN WE DON'T, WE DON'T HAVE TO.
I MEAN, I'M JUST ASKING BECAUSE I, I LOOK AT NUMBERS AND WHEN YOU SEE A BIG INCREASE, IT'S BECAUSE TO ASK WHY, I FEEL LIKE WE WEREN'T, LIKE THE EMPLOYEES WEREN'T ABLE TO GET THE THREE SHIRTS.
THEY WERE ONLY ABLE TO GET ONE.
SO THEY WILL HAVE TO BUS PROBATION.
NOW THEY'RE, I'M LIKE, THEY'RE RUNNING OUT A, SO I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY MORE SHIRTS.
THE GIRLS HOUSE FOR RED DAY FOR RED DUDE.
THEY WEAR RED SHIRTS AND ALSO STEPHANIE, THE BANK SERVICE CHARGE I SEE IF IT WENT WAS FROM 12,000 TO 20,000.
WHY? BECAUSE WE'RE CHANGING BANKS.
SO THE SERVICE FEES ARE A LITTLE BIT HIGHER.
YEAH, THEY'RE CHARGING US FOR LIKE WIRING FOR THINGS THAT LIKE DIFFERENT THRESHOLDS.
SO THE, THE AMOUNTS WERE A LITTLE BIT LESS AND NOW WE'RE JUST PREPARING OURSELVES FOR THIS PARTY.
WELL THEY'RE GETTING OUTRAGEOUS.
WE'LL NO, WHERE'S THE UH, GETTING USED? THE NET? THE NET THE NET BALANCE IS BETTER THOUGH, RIGHT? ONCE WE, ONCE WE MAKE THOSE ADJUSTMENTS.
ONCE WE MAKE, YEAH, SO THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING, LIKE I WILL BE PROVIDING TO YOU THE, UM, WHAT'S IT CALLED, THE NEW BUDGET.
BUT THAT FIRST PAGE WILL CHANGE.
AND THEN I'LL MAKE SURE TO PUT A PAGE ON THE ADJUSTMENT THAT IF THEY WERE MENTIONED THAT WE'RE TAKING PLACE IN THAT BUDGET WORKSHOP.
SO YOU WON'T BE ABLE TO GO TO THAT DETAIL PAGE 'CAUSE IT'S, IT'S A LOT OF, OF WE'LL PROVIDE IT A PDF F BUT AT THE ADOPTION DATE I'LL GIVE YOU A SUMMARY.
IS THAT OKAY THAT WAY OR ANYBODY WANTS, LET ME KNOW AHEAD IF ANYBODY WANTS THIS BUT UPGRADE DATE SO I CAN REDO IT WITH ALL THOSE CHANGES.
SO EDF YEAH, BECAUSE IT'S YOU THAT UP 10 POUNDS THERE.
UH, BINDERS LIKE WE USE SOME THIS HERE, WE'LL USE SOME THIS HERE.
UM, SO THAT ADDS TO THE PRINTING FORMS, PAPERS THAT 600 PAGES PER UM, I BROUGHT MY EDITION ONE BACK SO YOU CAN HAVE THIS WELCOME MY FIRST EDITION, THE BIBLE THAT WE GOT.
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THAT YOU'RE MENTIONING, WE SHOULD HAVE DONE A BETTER, UM, THING DOING DETAILS ON WHERE WE THE CITY SHIRT AT CLO BECAUSE WE ALSO GET LIKE CLERICAL THINGS THERE, LIKE, UH, AN EMPLOYEE NEEDS.I DON'T KNOW, LIKE I KNOW FOR EXAMPLE, ONE OF MY EMPLOYEES HAS PROBLEMS WITH HER EYES, SO WE BOUGHT THAT THING FOR THE COMPUTER TO ADDRESS IT TO HER.
BUT THIS IS NOT ONLY THE SHIRTS.
UM, I'LL MAKE SURE I'LL CHANGE MY DETAILS ON THAT ONE.
AND I THINK THAT AGAIN, IN THE FUTURE YOU WOULD MAKE IT A LOT EASIER ON STEPHANIE, ON EVERYBODY.
THAT'S HOW A BUDGET TO ME SHOULD LOOK.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ANYTHING ELSE? ONCE, TWICE.