* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:03] EASY. YEAH. HOPE IT DIDN'T SCARE ANYBODY. SO, OKAY. NOTICE OF THE SPECIAL MEETING OF THE CITY OF SANTO CITY COMMISSION, SEPTEMBER 26TH, 2023. IT'S A SPECIAL MEETING. UM, THE TIME IS, UH, FIVE 30. I'D LIKE TO WELCOME EVERYBODY. WE DO HAVE A QUORUM. UH, WE STILL HAVE SOME, UH, COMMISSIONERS THAT ARE RUNNING A LITTLE BIT LATE, SO WE'LL BE HERE. UM, ITEM NUMBER TWO, PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO THE US FLAG AND TEXAS FLAG. AND, UH, PLEASE REMAIN SILENT FOR THE INVOCATION BY MR. DAVID FAA. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG, UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH STANDS, ONE UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE FOR LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL UNDER A TEXAS FLAG. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE TEXAS ONE STATE UNDER GOD, ONE INDIVIDUAL . LET US PRAY. LORD, OUR FATHER, THANK YOU FOR ALL THE GRACE AND WONDERFUL DEEDS YOU CONTINUE TO GIVE US. WE ASK YOU FOR YOUR BLESSING AND GUIDANCE AS WE CONDUCT THIS MEETING. WE UNDERSTAND THE RESPONSIBILITY BESTOWED UPON US AS CITY LEADERS AND ARE GRATEFUL FOR YOUR CONTINUED COUNSEL. HELP US PROVIDE THE LEADERSHIP NECESSARY TO GUIDE OUR COMMUNITY AND CONTINUE TO MOVE IT FORWARD IN A POSITIVE DIRECTION. IN YOUR NAME WE PRAY, AMEN. AMEN. AMEN. THANK YOU, SIR. OKAY. ITEM NUMBER FOUR, UH, ITEMS THAT COMMUNITY INTEREST ITEM NUMBER ONE, THE CITY WILL BE HOSTING A FOOD DISTRIBUTION AT THE SAN SAN BERNARD DIEGO FAIRGROUNDS ON SEPTEMBER 27TH FROM NINE TO 11:00 AM UH, CORRECT. NO, IT'S, UH, THIRSTY, RIGHT? THURSDAY. THURSDAY, YES. NO, TOMORROW. TOMORROW. TOMORROW. OKAY. OKAY. OKAY. OKAY. WEDNESDAY 27 FROM NINE TO 11, THIS EVENT IS OPEN TO EVERYONE. ITEM NUMBER TWO, THE SEVEN POLICE DEPARTMENT WILL BE HOSTING THE 16TH ANNUAL NATIONAL NIGHT OUT ON OCTOBER 2ND, 2023 FROM, UH, SIX TO 8:00 PM AT THE HI MEMORIAL PARK CAM MEET LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT. AND ITEM NUMBER THREE, JOIN US ON FRIDAY, OCTOBER 13TH FOR TRAIL TO THE 13TH, UH, HALLOWEEN. UM, OKAY. EVENT ON THE HAVEN MEMORIAL PARK FROM 5:30 PM TO 7:30 PM COME ON OUT FOR, UH, CANDY AND FUN. UH, CUSTOMS ARE WELCOME. SO, AND THAT'S IT FOR THAT. COMMISSIONERS, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE THAT YOU WANNA BRING UP? UM, MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO, UM, YES. ALSO STATE THAT, UM, OUR WORKFORCE SOLUTION IN CONJUNCTION WITH OUR EDC HAD A WORKSHOP BACK ON SEPTEMBER 14TH. UM, I KNOW SOME OF OUR STAFF TOOK ADVANTAGE OF THAT FREE PROGRAM THAT WE HAVE FOR CUSTOMER SERVICE. UM, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO ASK, ASK ACTUALLY, MR. OLIMAN COME UP AND JUST A FEW WORDS ABOUT IT. 'CAUSE I KNOW I DID SPEAK TO A LOCAL BUSINESS OWNER THAT HAD THE EXPERIENCE IN HOW HIS TURNAROUND IN HIS CREW MADE A BIG DIFFERENCE ON THAT EVENT. YES, MA'AM. SO, UM, EXECUTIVE DIRECTORS, HOW EDC, UM, MR. MAYOR, MR. UH, THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK. SO, YES, WE DID. SO PART OF, UH, WHAT WE DID AT THE EDC IS WE, WE LOOKED FOR GAPS IN THE COMMUNITY WHERE, AND WE TRY TO FILL THOSE GAPS. SO ONE OF THE, THE, THE GAPS THAT I SAW WAS CUSTOMER SERVICE. AND I BELIEVE WE CAN ALL USE MORE CUSTOMER SERVICE, NOT JUST, YOU KNOW, I, I BELIEVE SO MUCH THAT THE EDC STAFF TOOK ADVANTAGE AND TOOK THE COURSE. I TOOK THE COURSE MYSELF. RIGHT? SO, I DO BELIEVE THAT WE CAN ALL USE CUSTOMER SERVICE, AND I THINK IT WAS AN EXCELLENT OPPORTUNITY TO PARTNER WITH OUR LOCAL WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT BOARD CAMERA WORK SOLUTIONS, AND PROVIDE A, A YOU AN A TRAINING AT NO COST. UH, THEY USUALLY DO THE TRAININGS AT THEIR OFFICES IN HARLINGEN AND BROWNSVILLE, BECAUSE OF THE RELATIONSHIP WE BUILT. THEY ACTUALLY MADE AN EXCEPTION AND CAME TO OUR OFFICE AND, AND CREATED THIS CUSTOMER SERVICE TRAINING. UM, NEXT WHAT I'M, WHAT WE'RE PLANNING TO DO IS PARTNER WITH UTRG. V-U-T-R-G-V HAS EXTENSIVE, UH, RESOURCES AND, AND WORKSHOPS AND COURSES. AND SO I WANT TO DO, WHAT WE WANNA DO IS BRING, UH, U-T-R-G-V TO DO THEIR CUSTOMER SERVICE TRAINING. AND WE WANT TO DO NOT ONE, BUT TWO DIFFERENT OPTIONS SO THAT, SO THAT FOLKS CAN HAVE, YOU KNOW, MORE OPTIONS TO ATTEND THIS TRAINING. AND YOU'RE RIGHT, COMMISSIONER WAS, IT WAS SO WELL THAT WE GOT A CALL THE NEXT DAY FROM, FROM THE LOCAL BUSINESS THAT, THAT TOOK THE COURSE. AND HE SAID THE NEXT DAY HE, HE COULD TELL A DIFFERENCE IN HIS EMPLOYEES A DIFFERENT ATTITUDE AND, UM, AND THE MORE PRODUCTION. SO I THINK IT'S, UH, IT'S REALLY, IT'S, IT'S USEFUL FOR US AND I THINK WE SHOULD TAKE ADVANTAGE OF IT, CORRECT? YES, WE DO. AND IT'S FREE . NO CHARGE. NO CHARGE. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND ALSO, UH, MAYOR, THERE'S A CHAMBER EVENT [00:05:01] THAT'S GONNA HAPPEN THIS THURSDAY. I FORGOT THE NAME. ELS. UM, YEAH, YOU GO, THAT'S GONNA BE HAPPENING AS WELL THIS THURSDAY. YES. ANY OTHER COMMENTS? NONE. OKAY. ITEM NUMBER FIVE. RUTH, DO WE HAVE ANYBODY FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS? YES, SIR. WE HAVE, UH, MR. MIKE TRAVIS. MR. TRAVIS. MIKE TRAVIS, 1695 RUSSELL LANE, UH, MAYOR, FELLOW CITIZENS. I'M GONNA JUMP RIGHT INTO IT. UH, 'CAUSE I'M LIMITED ON TIME RIGHT THERE. UH, FIRST OF ALL, I JUST WANNA GIVE SH GIVE SHOUT OUTS TO, UH, WELL, FIRST OF ALL, MS. PARTITA, SHE'S, WE'VE BEEN WORKING TOGETHER AND, AND SHE'S BEEN, I'VE BEEN SENDING STUFF, REQUESTS THINGS AND STUFF, AND, AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I APPRECIATE THAT. THANK YOU. UH, SECOND THING I WANNA SAY IS, UH, SHOUT OUT TO, UH, SAN BENITO POLICE DEPARTMENT, UH, CHIEF PADRE, CAPTAIN CORTEZ, AND OF COURSE, ALL THE PATROL OFFICERS THAT ARE OUT ON THE STREETS, UH, ENFORCING TRAFFIC LAWS, INCLUDING SPEED LIMITS. AND I JUST WANNA SAY THANK YOU, AND I ALREADY TALKED TO HIM PRIVATELY. UH, CAPTAIN PERILLA, UH, THING SAID, UH, THE, I REALLY LIKE THE, WHAT THEY CAME UP WITH AS A SOLUTION, BECAUSE I HAD BEEN ASKING ON NUMBER OCCASIONS FOR THE, THE SPEED SIGN, THE ONE THAT'S ON A TRAILER, BECAUSE THAT'S ONE OF OUR CONCERNS OVER ON RUSSELL LANE, IS THE VOLUME OF TRAFFIC AND THE SPEEDING, THE SPEED OF THE TRAFFIC KIND OF STUFF. SO IT WAS VERY INTERESTING. UH, I JUST GOT SOME OF THE DATA TODAY AND I ASKED HIM, WAS IT OKAY TO SHARE? AND HE SAID, YES. SO BACK IN THE END OF AUGUST, UH, BACK IN AUGUST, WE HAD 3,527 VEHICLES THAT PASSED BOTH WAYS. THE, UH, HIGHEST SPEED WAS 60, BUT OF COURSE, THEY GOT SPEED BUMPS OVER THERE. SO THIS LAST ONE, I CAN'T READ THE DATE HERE, BUT IT WAS, UH, END OF AUGUST INTO THE EARLY PART OF, UH, SEPTEMBER HERE, 8,206 VEHICLES. THAT'S OVER TWO TIMES NOW. I DON'T WANNA GET INTO THE, 'CAUSE I'M LIMITED ON TIME. THE FACTORS OF THIS OR THAT, OR WHATEVER. WE CAN, WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT LATER. UH, BUT THE TOP SPEED, WHICH REALLY CAUGHT MY ATTENTION WAS 82 ON A TWO LANE ROAD RESIDENTIAL ROAD WITH A POSTED 30 MILE PER HOUR SPEED LIMIT. SO I JUST WANT TO BRING THAT TO LIGHT. 'CAUSE WE'VE BEEN SAYING THAT FOR A LONG TIME. IT'S THE VOLUME AND THE SPEED. AND, UH, THAT WAS WHAT I HAD ON MY AGENDA FOR THIS EVENING. I HAVE OTHER THINGS ON OTHER AGENDAS, BUT THOSE ARE FOR ANOTHER TIME. AND UNFORTUNATELY, I NORMALLY LIKE TO STAY FOR THE MEETINGS, BUT I HAVE TO BE SOMEWHERE ELSE. AND I, I, I, I'M, I THANK THE LORD FOR LIVE STREAMING AND ARCHIVE VIDEO ON THE WEBSITE THERE, SO I CAN SEE WHAT HAPPENED THERE, KIND OF STUFF. 'CAUSE I LIKE TO BE HERE, BUT IF I CAN'T, I LIKE TO LIVE STREAM IT. AND IF I CAN'T DO THAT, I LIKE TO GO BACK AND WATCH THE WHAT HAPPENED KIND OF STUFF. 'CAUSE MOVING FORWARD, I WANT TO BE, UH, MORE INVOLVED IN MY LOCAL COMMUNITY MORE THAN I HAVE BEEN. BUT ANYWAY, THANK YOU SO MUCH, LORD BLESS YOU. AND KEEP YOU AND ALL Y'ALL TOO, THERE. SO I'LL BID MY FAREWELL. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. TRAVIS. YES. THANK YOU, RUTH. ANYBODY ELSE? NO, SIR. OKAY. ITEM NUMBER SIX. ANY QUESTIONS? MOTION TO APPROVE. MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES. I GOT A MOTION BY, UH, COMMISSIONER GOODMAN. SECOND. SECOND. SECOND BY COMMISSIONER MORALES. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY NAYS? MOTION PASSES. OKAY. UH, DO WE NEED A MOTION TO COMBINE THE NEXT THREE ITEMS? WELL, LEMME GET THE, I DON'T THINK SO. UH, WE GOT THE NEXT ONE. UH, WE GOT THE MR. RAMIRO ELMAN ON THIS FROM EDC, SIR. GOOD EVENING AGAIN, MR. MAYOR COMMISSION. UM, ROBERT MADDEN, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR. SAN DIEGO, EDC. SO, REAL QUICK, UM, I'M GONNA, I'M GONNA, I WANNA BRAG ON MY, MY STAFF FOR A LITTLE BIT. UM, I'M GONNA BRING UP JULIA LANDRUM HERE IN A LITTLE BIT. BUT FIRST I WANTED TO POINT OUT A COUPLE DETAILS. UM, SO TODAY, AS YOU SEE ON YOUR AGENDA, WE'RE SUBMITTING THREE, WE'RE WE'RE CONSIDERING THREE, UH, RENT SUBSIDY PROGRAMS. TOMORROW'S EDC COMMISSION. WE'RE GONNA, WE'RE GONNA PRESENT TWO MORE. WE'RE WORKING WITH TWO OTHERS COMPANIES, UH, TO DO THAT FOR THE, TO SUBMIT FOR THE FOLLOWING. SO, IN TOTAL OF SEVEN IN THE LAST MONTH OR SO THAT WE'RE WORKING ON, I JUST WANNA LET YOU KNOW THAT OUR MARKETING EFFORTS ARE WORKING. WE'RE AT ALL OF THE CITY EVENTS. WE'RE AT THE CONJUNTO. WE'RE GONNA BE AT THE, UH, NATIONAL NIGHT [00:10:01] OUT. WE'RE GONNA BE AT THE, UH, UH, THE OCTOBER 13TH EVENT FOR THE, THE HALLOWEEN EVENT. AND, UH, OUR, AND WE'VE EVEN GONE GRASSROOTS. WE, WE WENT IN A HUNDRED DEGREE HEAT AND KNOCKING ON DOORS AND, AND GIVING US OUR, GIVING THE INFORMATION THAT WE HAVE OUT THERE ON THESE PROGRAMS. AND SO, UM, OUR MARKETING EFFORTS ARE WORKING, I THINK BECAUSE, UH, I DON'T THINK WE'VE EVER SEEN THIS MANY, UH, RED SUBSIDIES PROGRAMS COME THROUGH THIS, THIS COMMISSION OR THE EDC BOARD. SO, UM, WITH ENOUGH BRAGGING ON MY STAFF, I WANT TO BRING UP, UH, UH, MS. JULIA LANDRUM, THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT AND MARKETING MANAGER. SHE IS THE ONE, UH, MANAGING THIS COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT, UH, UH, PROGRAM. SO, UH, I'M REALLY PROUD OF HER. AND, UM, AND I'M, I'M GONNA BRING HER UP NOW. SO, JULIA. OKAY. WELL, THANK YOU FOR THOSE COMMENTS. BLESS YOU, . AND, UH, HELLO COMMISSIONERS. MAYOR, THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING US TO BE HERE TODAY. UM, WE ARE, AS YOU MENTIONED, GOING OVER THE, UM, RENT SUBSIDY GRANT. THE FIRST ONE TO LOOK AT IS THE LUCKY SHOT. UM, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A TOTAL ALLOCATED BUDGET OF 85,000, AND THEY HAVE BEEN APPROVED ON AUGUST 22ND BY THE S-M-U-D-C TO RECEIVE A, UH, GRANT OF 4,500 OVER THE PERIOD OF SIX MONTHS FOR THE RENT SUBSIDY GRANT. AND STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL FOR THIS ONE. WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO CONTINUE THROUGH THE OTHER TWO, OR, YES, PLEASE. UH, WE'RE GONNA COMBINE ALL THREE, SO WE'RE GONNA VOTE ON IT. UH, SO NOT TO WORRY. YES. SO THE NEXT ONE IS GADGET REPAIR. UM, OVER THE PERIOD OF SIX MONTHS, UH, 50% OF THE RENT, RENT, SUB RENT SUBSIDY GRANT WOULD EQUAL TO $4,510 AND 68 CENTS. AND THEN THE NEXT ONE, THE BARBER STUDIO BY JAY ARMANDO, LLC, IS A TOTAL OF $4,761 OVER THE PERIOD OF SIX MONTHS. AND IT IS A PERFORMANCE BASED AND, UH, REIMBURSEMENT PROCESS. OKAY? MM-HMM. , ARE THESE BUSINESSES OPEN OR GETTING READY TO OPEN, OR THEY ARE ALL OPEN AND OPERATING. THEY MEET ALL OF THE REQUIREMENTS, UH, BUSINESS PLAN DOCUMENTS, ET CETERA. OKAY, GREAT. YEAH. CONGRATULATIONS. IT'S GREAT TO SEE THIS KIND OF WORK GOING ON, MR. UH, RAMIRO AND, AND THE OTHERS. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR, FOR WORKING WITH OUR CITIZENS AND THESE LOCAL BUSINESSES AND WHAT THEY'RE DOING. I THINK IT'S, IT'S VITALLY IMPORTANT. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR WHAT YOU'RE DOING. YES. MOTION TO APPROVE. OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? NO QUESTIONS. SO, I GOT A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER GOODMAN. SECOND. SECOND. SECOND BY COMMISSIONER MORALES. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. ANY NAYS? MOTION PASSES. THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR TIME, AND IF ANYBODY HAS ANY, UH, QUESTIONS OR WOULD LIKE ANY ADDITIONAL INFORMATION, WE ARE AVAILABLE AND JUST REACH OUT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. OKAY. THIS, THIS WAS FOR, UH, ITEM NUMBER SEVEN, EIGHT, AND NINE. OKAY. SO ITEM NUMBER 10. AND WE HAVE, UH, MS. JOANNA, NOW PRESENT THIS ITEM, MAYOR COMMISSIONERS, THE PROPERTY IS ZONE C ONE, UM, RESTRICTED BUSINESS. AND THE DEVELOPER IS PROPOSING TO REMODEL THEIR, UH, CURRENT LOCATION. THEY'RE, THE REASON THEY'RE COMING BEFORE THE BOARD FOR IS THE CURRENT BUSINESS SITS OVER THREE LOTS, BUT THEY OWN ANOTHER TWO LOTS. UH, THEY'RE JUST TRYING TO CLEAN IT UP AND MAKE IT ONE BIG LOT. WAS THIS NECESSARY TO HAVE A HEARING? UH, WELL BY OUR ORDINANCE. IT HAS TO COME BE, UH, IT DOESN'T NEED A HEARING, BUT IT HAS TO COME BEFORE, UH, CITY COUNCIL. OKAY. THE HEARING WAS DONE. UH, NO, ACTUALLY NO, NO HEARING. THE ONLY TIME IT NEEDS A HEARING IS IF IT'S A RES, A RESIDENTIAL THREE PLAT IN MY MIND. ANYTIME THEY WANT TO FIX UP THE BUILDINGS, THAT'S, UH, SUPPORTIVE. I DO TOO. OKAY. MOTION TO APPROVE. SO, DO I HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? NONE. OKAY. SO WE HAVE, UM, UH, MOTION BY COMMISSIONER GOODMAN. SECOND, SECOND. SECOND BY COMMISSIONER MORALES. ALL IN FAVOR? A. ANY NAYS? MOTION PASSES. THANK YOU. OKAY. ITEM NUMBER 11. AND THAT'S, UH, BY PRIOR CHIEF, UH, BATISTA. HEY, GOOD EVENING, MAYOR. UH, COMMISSIONERS. SO THIS IS A SECOND READING ON, UH, ORDINANCE, UH, 4 24 DASH A. AND THIS IS THE, UM, ORDINANCE THAT, UM, THE FIRE MARSHAL IS GOING TO BE APPOINTED BY MYSELF. UH, THE PRIOR, UM, ORDINANCE AT THE MAYOR MAKING THAT APPOINTMENT. AND THAT WAS FROM 1935. WE HAD DISCUSSED THAT EARLIER ON THE LAST MEETING. SO, UH, DO YOU GUYS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? WELL KNOW IF WE DIDN'T, IF WE DIDN'T HAVE A MAYOR THAT WAS PREVIOUSLY FIRED, THAT MIGHT HAVE BEEN . YEAH. WELL, AND IT'S GREAT. BUT THE, THE THING IS THAT, UH, UM, [00:15:02] YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A CHIEF AND THAT'S, THAT SHOULD BE HIS ROLE. AND, UH, HE SHOULD BRING IT TO US WITH HIS, UH, UM, YOU KNOW, AT LEAST WITH YOUR APPOINTMENT. UM, I KNOW THAT THE, THIS IS GONNA BE JUST TO, UM, TO SET THE, THE, UM, THE DEPARTMENT HEAD ON IT, RIGHT? CORRECT. OKAY. TO, TO CREATE THE POSITION, CORRECT? CORRECT. SO THE, THE OFFICE HAD ALREADY BEEN CREATED BEFORE, AND THE ONLY THING WAS THAT THE MAYOR HAD MADE THAT APPOINTMENT. AND, UM, LIKE I SAID, IT WAS FROM 1935. SO WE'RE JUST UPDATING IT. OKAY. GREAT. OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? NONE. SO, DO WE HAVE A MOTION FOR THIS MOTION? I GOT A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER MORALE. SECOND. SECOND. SECOND BY COMMISSIONER GUTMAN. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY NAY? MOTION PASSES. OKAY. THE, THE NEXT ONE IS, HOLD ON, SIR. OH, NO, SIR. GIMME A CHANCE. I KNOW YOU, YOU'RE EXCITED GETTING AHEAD OF MYSELF. LIKE HIS ATTITUDE. I, NUMBER 12. AND IT'S, UH, BY CHIEF, IF I GO AHEAD, SIR. OKAY. SO THIS IS ALSO THE SECOND, UH, READING AND, UH, IT'S CONSIDER CONSIDERATION POSSIBLE ACTION FOR, UH, AMENDING ORDINANCE NUMBER 25 66. AND THIS JUST SETS THE, UM, NUMBER OF PERSONNEL, WAGES, AND PAY STRUCTURE FOR THE, UH, YES. UH, FOR THE FIRE MARSHAL. THAT'S THE NEXT ONE. OH, SORRY. YES. I'M SORRY. IT'S FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. SO, E EVERY YEAR WE, UM, THE OR ORDINANCE IS HOW WE SET THE PAY STRUCTURE, THE INCENTIVES, UM, FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. SO I GUESS, HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? HOW, HOW MANY, UM, ON WHAT'S OUR ATTRITION RATE? SO RIGHT NOW, WE, WE, WE JUST LOST THREE, UH, TWO WENT TO MCALLEN, ONE WENT TO BORDER PATROL. UH, USUALLY, SO ATTRITION, UH, YOU MEAN, YOU MEAN ATTENTION WILL, WILL THIS PAY SCALE SLOW DOWN SOME OF THE ATTRITION PERHAPS? IT, IT MIGHT ACTUALLY, IT, IT'S VERY COMPETITIVE WITH THE REST OF THE VALLEY. OKAY. UM, I THINK MACALLAN WAS PAYING JUST A LITTLE BIT LESS, BUT OF COURSE, THEIR INCENTIVES UNDER LONGEVITY PAY IS A LOT MORE SO BY US COMPARING TO THE OTHER CITIES A LITTLE BIT BIGGER CITIES, UM, WE'RE STILL CLOSE BY. WE'RE, WE'RE CLOSE. WE'RE PRETTY CLOSE, ACTUALLY. ACTUALLY, I THINK MCCALLUM STARTED PAY WAS, UH, 47. BUT LIKE I SAID, THEY JUST HAVE AN INCREASE ALSO. SO I WOULD KNOW IF ANY INCREASES. YEAH. OKAY. WELL, WE'RE JUST TRYING TO KEEP 'EM, YOU KNOW, AS MUCH AS WE CAN HERE WITH, UH, WE EDUCATE 'EM, WE MM-HMM. . AND IT'S HARD, YOU KNOW, TRAIN THEM AND THEN IT'S HARD TO, UH, TO LOSE THEM LIKE THAT, TRAIN THEM. CORRECT. SO I KNOW THAT, UM, HOPEFULLY YOU CAN BRING, UH, BRING BACK WHAT WAS, UH, LOST A COUPLE YEARS AGO. YES. YES. AND THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S WHERE WE'RE SLOWLY GETTING THERE. UM, WE GOT, OF COURSE, WE'RE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO DO IT ALL AT ONCE, BUT YEAH. UH, THE GOAL IS TO, UM, GET BACK EVERYTHING THAT THEY HAD. THAT WAY THEY, WE CAN, THAT WAS TAKEN AWAY FROM ME. RIGHT. IT WAS TAKEN AWAY. RIGHT. I WAS THERE. I WORDED AGAINST IT, BUT IT WAS TAKEN AWAY FROM 'EM, SO I DON'T BLAME 'EM. OKAY. BUT, UH, SO ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS MOTION TO APPROVE? OKAY. I GOT A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER GOODMAN. SECOND. SECOND. SHOULD BY COMMISSIONER MORE MORALES. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY NAYS? MOTION PASSES. OKAY. ADAM, NUMBER 13, CHIEF. SO, ADAM, NUMBER 13 IS, UH, WE'RE AMENDING ORDINANCE, UH, NUMBER 25 71, WHICH IS THE PAY STRUCTURE AND, UH, THE NUMBER OF PERSONNEL FOR THE, UH, FIRE MARSHAL'S OFFICE. NOW, WITH THIS ALSO, UH, I KNOW I TALKED TO THE MAYOR, AND WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE, UH, STARTING PAY ON THE, ON THE FIRE MARSHAL. SO I, I, I DID THE RESEARCH AND, UH, STARTING PAY IS PRETTY MUCH, IS PRETTY COMPETITIVE ALSO, UM, WITH ROOM TO GROW, OF COURSE. UH, THE MORE CERTIFICATION, THE MORE, THE LONGER THEY'RE HERE, THEN WE CAN, WE CAN BUMP 'EM UP A LITTLE BIT. OKAY. DO YOU HAVE, UH, WITHIN THE DEPARTMENT, DO YOU HAVE ANYBODY QUALIFIED OR WILLING TO GO? WE HAVE TWO INDIVIDUALS QUALIFIED. UH, THEY, ONE OF 'EM KIND OF EXPRESSED THAT YOU MIGHT WANT TO TAKE IT. OKAY. UM, BUT OF COURSE, THE SHIFT WORK IS WHAT THEY LIKE. SO OF COURSE, I KNOW YOU CAN'T BEAT THE SHIFT WORK. YES, YES, I KNOW THAT. BUT, UH, LIKE I TOLD YOU, MY, MY RECOMMENDATION, I MEAN, MY LEAST CONCERN WAS THAT, UH, BY PROMOTED THROUGH THE, IN, THROUGH THE DEPARTMENT HEADS OR THROUGH RIGHT. THE, IN THE, YOU KNOW, THE DEPARTMENT, THE MONEY STAYS IN THE RETIREMENT OF THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. FIRE DEPARTMENT. BY YOU POINTING FROM THE OUTSIDE, THAT GOES TO RE MAREZ. YES, THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY. SO I'VE TOLD THEM, I BROUGHT IT TO THEIR ATTENTION, AND I DON'T WANT TO HEAR ANY CRYING ABOUT IT LATER ON. OKAY. SO [00:20:01] I HOPE, UH, I HOPE SOMEBODY DOES. I HOPE SOMEBODY DOES, UH, TAKE, UH, YOU KNOW, UM, TAKE THIS POSITION. OKAY. AND I'VE HAD SOME, UH, UH, I'VE THROWN THE BAIT OUT THERE. I'VE HAD A COUPLE OF NIBBLES. AND SO WE'RE, WE'RE PUTTING THE WORD OUT THERE AND BRING IT UP, PUT ON THE WEB PAGE SESSION. THAT'S, IT'S APPROVED. AND WE'LL, WELL, SO FIRST, IS IT GONNA GO ON THE, IS IT GONNA GO OUTSIDE OR YOU GONNA GO TO THE INSIDE FIRST? I'M GONNA ASK FIRST. IN, IN, UH, INTERNAL. OKAY. INTERNAL. YES. NOBODY WANTS IT. THEN WE'LL GO EXTERNAL. OKAY. AND WHAT A LETTER THEY DID. THEY DENY IT. AND THEN ARE YOU GONNA GO FROM, UH, CAPTAIN DOWN TO LIEUTENANT THERE? THERE'S NO LIEUTENANTS RIGHT NOW THAT ARE QUALIFIED. OKAY. OKAY. ALRIGHT. OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONERS? NO. DO I HAVE A MOTION? OKAY. MOTION TO APPROVE. I GOT A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER GOODMAN. SECOND. SECOND. SECOND BY COMMISSIONER MORALES. UH, ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. ANY NAYS? MOTION PASSES. WELCOME, SIR. ITEM 14. AND AGAIN, UH, CHIEF TI YES, SIR. SO THIS IS THE, UM, AVEN COUNTY EMERGENCY SERVICE DISTRICT NUMBER ONE FIRE SERVICE AGREEMENT. THIS IS OUR ANNUAL, UH, CONTRACT WITH THE, UH, COUNTY ESD ONE FOR, UH, FIRE, UH, SERVICES. AND THIS YEAR, UH, THERE WE DID HAVE AN INCREASE TO, UH, 300, 3,199, UH, WITH 37 CENTS LAST YEAR WE'RE AT, UH, 283,000. UH, I DON'T REMEMBER EXACT, THE EXACT AMOUNT. SO IT, IT'S A DIFFERENCE OF ABOUT $20,000 MORE THAN WE'LL BE GETTING PAID FOR THE, UH, FUEL FOR PROPRIETY SERVICES TO THE RURAL AREAS. RIGHT. OKAY. ANY QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS, WHAT HAS BEEN THE VOLUME ON THE CALLS FOR OUTSIDE THOSE AREAS? SO RIGHT NOW WE'RE AVERAGING ABOUT 1500 CALLS A YEAR. UM, AND ABOUT 80% OF THAT IS COUNTING 8%. 80, 80%. CORRECT. YEAH. AND MOST OF, MOST OF IT'S GONNA BE GRASS FIRES AND, UH, UH, OUR ACCIDENTS OUT IN THE HIGH SPEED AREAS OF THE COUNTY. UH, I KNOW WE PURCHASED SOME, SOME ADDITIONAL EQUIPMENT HERE RECENTLY. IS THAT ALL PART OF THAT USAGE? CORRECT. THAT'S WHAT WE CAN AFFORD. SOME OF THEM, SOME THE EQUIPMENT. SO KEEP GOING. UH, GOOD JOB, STEVE. OKAY. UM, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? NONE. OKAY. DO I HAVE A MOTION FOR THIS? MOTION? I GOT A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER MORALES. SECOND. SECOND. SECOND BY COMMISSIONER GOODMAN. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. ANY NAYS? MOTION PASSES. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. CHIEF ITEM 15. AND THIS IS BY MS. ALIDA GARCIA, COACH GEORGE. HI THERE. MAYOR. MAYOR PROAM AND CITY COMMISSIONERS. ALEIDA GARCIA HAW, DIRECTOR FOR THE RECORD. UH, THE SANITA CULTURAL ARTS DEPARTMENT CONTINUES TO WORK WITH LOCAL MEMBERS OF THE ARTS COMMUNITY. I AM REQUESTING A CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO APPROVE THE USE OF THE SAN BERNARD DIEGO CULTURAL ARTS CENTER, LOCATED AT 2 25 EAST STANGER TO HOST THE VA, UH, TEXAS VALLEY COASTAL BEND, VETERANS CREATIVE ARTS COMPETITION AND EXHIBITION, OR RECOGNIZED BY THE VA, TEXAS VALLEY COASTAL BEND, UH, HEALTHCARE SYSTEM. WE ARE PROPOSING TO HAVE THE EXHIBITION OPEN ON NOVEMBER 9TH, 2023 THROUGH JANUARY 27TH, 2024. DURING REGULAR MUSEUM HOURS, THE OPENING RECEPTION WILL ANNOUNCE THE LOCAL WINNERS IN MUSIC, POETRY, AND VISUAL ART WHO WILL GO ON TO COMPETE IN NATIONALS. THIS IS A PERFECT OPPORTUNITY TO COLLABORATE WITH THE LOCAL OFFICE OF VETERANS AFFAIRS. THE CULTURAL ARTS CENTER LENDS ITSELF TO HAVING EXHIBITIONS IN A MORE INTIMATE SETTING, IN A SPACE THAT HAS A LONG TRADITION FOR BUILDING COMMUNITY AND CULTURAL ENGAGEMENT. UH, DR. PAMINA, UH, PAMELA SMITH, UH, VA, TEXAS VALLEY COASTAL BEND RECOVERY COORDINATOR. UM, AND I ARE AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS. UM, MS. SMITH? YES, DR. SMITH. DR. SMITH. OKAY. I'M SORRY. DR. SMITH. OKAY. UH, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR CONSIDERATION AND BRINGING IT TO OUR COMMITTEE. YES. SO, BUT HOW DID THAT COME ABOUT? UH, AS FAR AS THIS, AS FAR AS, WELL, WE'LL BRING IT, BRINGING THIS, UH, FOR THE, YOU KNOW, FOR CREATION OF THE VETERANS, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING TO HONOR THEM ALSO. WELL, UM, IT, IT CAME INTO, CAME TO FRUITION 'CAUSE ALIDA GARCIA HAS BEEN, UM, SERVING AS JUDGE FOR OUR VISUAL ARTS SECTION IN OUR LOCAL VALLEY COASTAL MEN CREATIVE ARTS COMPETITION FOR THE LAST FOUR YEARS. AND, UM, SO WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS FOR A LONG TIME BECAUSE THE VETERANS HAVE ONLY HAD THE OPPORTUNITY. OUR, OUR VA VALLEY COASTAL MEN VETERANS HAVE ONLY HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO EXHIBIT THEIR WORK, WHICH THEY SUBMIT TO OUR LOCAL ANNUAL COMPETITION [00:25:01] ONE DAY IN THE CLINIC. 'CAUSE IT'S A CLINIC WE CAN'T HAVE, WE MAKE IT LIKE AN OPENING, BUT WE HAVE TO TAKE IT DOWN IN ONE DAY. MM-HMM. . SO A LOT OF PEOPLE, A LOT OF FAMILY MEMBERS CAN'T COME. THE PUBLIC HAS LIMITED TIME TO SEE THE EXHIBIT. AND REALLY, IT'S GROWN TO GROW. THIS YEAR WE HAVE OVER 90 ENTRIES AND 68 PIECES OF VISUAL ART ALONE. AND WE'VE REALLY GROWN IN TERMS OF THE NATIONAL RECOGNITION WHERE FOUR FIVE OF OUR, UM, FIVE VETERANS OF WHICH RECEIVED MEDALS IN THE NATIONAL VETERANS CREATIVE ARTS COMPETITION AT THE NATIONAL LEVEL, FOUR GOLD, ONE BRONZE. AND SO WE'RE NOW COVERING, WE'RE NOW COVERING ACTUALLY, UM, FOUR OF THE FIVE DIVISIONS. VETERANS FROM ACROSS THE VALLEY, CORPUS LAREDO ARE COMPETING, UM, WITH THE NATIONAL, UH, WITH, WITH, WITH THE TOP WINNERS FROM THE COMPETITIONS AT THE NATIONAL LEVEL. AND WE'RE ACTUALLY, I THINK WE'RE REALLY EXCEEDING, UM, WE'RE REALLY EXCEEDING OUR POPULATION AND THE SIZE FOR OUR POPULATION AND FOR THE SIZE OF OUR VETERANS CLINIC. WE'RE REALLY KIND OF SHOWING OFF ACTUALLY IN PARTICIPATION. IT'S, IT'S REALLY BEYOND THE AVERAGE PROPORTION FOR A CLINIC OF OUR SITES. SO, UM, AT THE ARTS TO SEE THE ARTS AND TO HEAR THE VETERANS, AND TO HEAR ABOUT WHAT IT MEANS TO THEM TO PARTICIPATE, UM, IN A COMPETITION FOR THE FIRST TIME, AND THEN TO CONTINUE, AND THEN TO GO TO THE NATIONAL LEVEL TO SEE THEIR RAD BROTHERS AND SISTERS IN SERVICE DO THE SAME. UM, I CAN'T SAY ENOUGH FOR, FOR WHAT IT DOES FOR THEM, UM, IN TERMS OF THEIR WELLNESS AND THEIR MENTAL HEALTH. IT'S A LOT OF WHAT A LOT OF VETERANS NATURALLY ARE DOING, UM, JUST BY THEMSELVES. BUT THIS GIVES THEM AN OPPORTUNITY TO FORM A COMMUNITY OF FELLOW CREATOR, CREATIVITY, UH, CREATIVELY ORIENTED VETERANS. AND SO, UM, I'M VERY PRIVILEGED TO HAVE THE ROLE OF BEING A COORDINATOR, UM, AMONG MY OTHER DUTIES. AND, UH, IT'S THE, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S A REWARD I WANT. IT'S THROUGH THE COLLABORATION YOU'VE HAD FOR FINALLY BEING ABLE TO BRING THIS VISION TO, TO Y'ALL FOR CONSIDERATION AND APPROVAL. WHAT THE, UH, BY THE NAME COASTAL BEND, I ASSUME THAT IT, WHAT'S THE GEOGRAPHIC AREA THAT THIS COVERS OR, WELL, OUR, WELL, I'M GLAD TO BE ABLE TO SPEAK AND SHARE A LITTLE ABOUT OUR CLINIC, OUR VA, TEXAS VALLEY COASTAL BEND HEALTHCARE SYSTEM, WHICH HAS A TUB IN HARTON JUST DOWN THE ROAD. IT COVERS FROM CORPUS CHRISTI ALL THE WAY DOWN THE COASTAL BEND. THE COUNTY'S IN THE COUNTY IN THE FUNNEL SHAPE, AND THEN ALL THE WAY UP TO, UM, LAREDO. SO IT'S A VERY, IT'S A 20 COUNTY SYSTEM THAT WE SERVE. UM, AND WE HAVE TWO CLINICS IN HARLINGEN, TWO CLINICS IN CORPUS, ONE CLINIC IN MCALLEN, ONE SMALL CLINIC IN BROWNS. ONE WHICH JUST OPENED. AND, UM, ONE CLINIC IN, IN LAREDO AS WELL AS MOBILE UNITS. SO, UM, SO REALLY I HAVE BEEN ABLE TO GET OUT THE WORD TO, UM, PEOPLE ACROSS THE SYSTEM TO, TO COMPETE. AND I JUST, UH, I INVOLVE LOCAL EXPERTS IN THE ARTS TO ACTUALLY SERVE AS JUDGES SO THAT THERE'S THAT COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AS WELL. AND, AND THAT'S THE ROLE THAT, UM, THAT'S THE WAY I HAVE MET. UM, AND WE, AND WE'VE WORKED TOGETHER OVER THE YEARS, UM, TO IMPROVE, UM, THE OPPORTUNITIES FOR THE VETERANS. UM, WE, WE HAVE A VETERANS AFFAIRS COMMITTEE, UH, HERE IN TOWN. YES. HOW MIGHT THEY ASSIST YOU WITH THIS? ROD WOULD BE OPEN TO ANY OPPORTUNITY TO TALK TO THEM, UM, TO FIND OUT, UM, HOW THEY MIGHT WANT TO CONTRIBUTE. I CERTAINLY WOULD LIKE THEM TO, UM, TO PARTAKE, UH, OF THE EXHIBIT AND, UM, ENCOURAGE PEOPLE THAT THEY KNOW AMONG THEIR MEMBERSHIP, I MEAN, NOT ONLY AMONG THEIR MEMBERSHIP, BUT TO EXPAND THE WORD. ONE OF THE REASONS WE WANT TO DO THIS IS THAT WE WANT TO HAVE THIS BE FURTHER PROMOTED. BECAUSE MANY VETERANS, EVERY YEAR, MANY VETERANS SURFACE THAT SAY, OH, I DIDN'T REALLY KNOW ABOUT IT. AND IT'S BEST SPREAD WORD OF MOUTH. BUT WE DO A LOT OF PUBLICITY AS WELL. AND SO WE'RE HOPING THAT THROUGH THIS WE'LL BE ABLE TO GET SOME PRESS RELEASES AND GET IT OUT IN A MUCH BROADER WAY. OKAY. GREAT. I THINK THIS BENEFITS BOTH PARTIES AND ALLOWS THE [00:30:01] VETERANS TO EXPRESS THEMSELVES MORE THAN JUST ONE DAY, YOU SAY, IN THE CLINIC. AND THEN IT ALSO HELPS, UH, PUT SOMEBODY ON THE MAP. MM-HMM. . UM, I, I HOPE IT DRAWS, YOU KNOW, A PRETTY GOOD CROWD. AND I HOPE WE CAN CONTINUE TO HELP FOSTER THIS CULTURAL ARTS ENVIRONMENT. SO THANK YOU BOTH FOR BRINGING IT TO US. YES, THANK YOU. OF COURSE. BUT PLEASE REACH OUT TO THE VETERANS AFFAIR COMMITTEE AND, AND A YES. ABSOLUTELY. I'VE BEEN AWARE OF THEM AND I'LL, OKAY. THANK YOU. UM, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? DO I HAVE A MOTION? MOTION? MAYOR? I GOT A MOTION BY MAYOR PRO GLAN. SECOND. SECOND. SECOND BY COMMISSIONER MORALES. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. NAYS. MOTION PASSES. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. LATER. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, DR. FI. GOOD LUCK. ITEM 16 AND IS, UH, CHIEF MARIO PERILLA? YES. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR. MAYOR. LIEUTENANT COMMISSIONERS, PLEASE. CHIEF MONTE PERILLA. FOR THE RECORD, THIS ITEM IS REQUEST TO APPROVE THE ANNUAL PAYMENT TO LEXIPOL FOR THE POLICY AND PROCEDURE SOFTWARE. LEXIPOL IS AN ONLINE POLICY PLATFORM THAT ALLOWS US TO TRACK POLICY ACKNOWLEDGEMENTS AND PROVIDE US WITH THE UPDATES ON LAW ENFORCEMENT'S BEST PRACTICES. WE HAVE USED LEXIPOL AS OUR POLICY MANAGEMENT SOFTWARE SINCE MAY OF 2016. STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL. I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS. THIS IS AN ANNUAL CONTRACT. YES, SIR. MOTION TO APPROVE. OKAY. SO ANOTHER QUESTION. SO I GOT A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER GOODMAN. SECOND, SECOND. SECOND BY COMMISSIONER MORALES. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY NAYS? MOTION PASSES. THANK YOU. HERE COMES AND NUMBER 17, I'M SORRY. LOST TRACK MYSELF. OH, AND NUMBER 17. UH, MR. GARCIA, MAYOR. MAYOR, PROTON COMMISSIONERS. EVA GARCIA, PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR FOR THE RECORD. ITEM ONE FOR DISCUSSION IS THE APPROVAL, UH, RATIFICATION OF, UH, THE RECYCLED WATER LINE CROSSING CHANGE ORDER. UM, THE CHANGE ORDER, UH, COMES TO US, UH, BASED ON, UH, THE DRAWINGS AND, UH, DESIGNS PRIOR AS BUILT THAT WE HAD, UH, DIDN'T REALLY LINE UP TO WHAT WE EXPECTED. SO HENCE WHERE THE CHANGE ORDER CAME INTO EFFECT. UH, IN ORDER TO, UH, CONTINUE THE PROJECT AND CLOSE IT OUT COMPLETELY, I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS. SO WHAT HAPPENED ? WELL, UM, ON THE DRAWINGS AND EVERYTHING, THAT WAS, UH, WHEN IT WAS, UH, LOOKED AT AND SCOPED OUT, UH, IT LOOKED LIKE IT WAS GONNA BE A STRAIGHT SHOT, UH, LINEUP AND TIE, UH, TIE IN THE EIGHT INCH EXISTING LINE WITH THE NEW ONE THAT WE BOARD UNDER THE, THE SAKA. UH, ONCE WE GOT INTO, UH, THE ACTUAL PHYSICAL OF, UH, YOU KNOW, CONSTRUCTION SITE, UM, WE DID RUN INTO A COUPLE OBSTACLES. WE HAD A, AN EXTRA 16 INCH WATER LINE THAT CROSSED, UH, PERPENDICULAR TO WHAT WE, WHERE WE WERE POURING. SO WE HAD TO BE A LITTLE BIT MORE CAUTIOUS IN THAT. UM, ONCE WE BOARD UNDERNEATH THE AKA, IT WAS NOTED THAT, HEY, YOU KNOW, THE, THAT WHERE WE'D BE TYING IN IS ACTUALLY APPROXIMATELY 10 OR 15 FEET FARTHER AWAY. SO NOW WHERE THE BOARD WAS, I THINK APPROXIMATELY 20 FEET, FEET, UM, UNDER THE AKA ONCE IT COMES UP AS IT'S COMING UP, IT'S GETTING SHALLOWER. SO NOW WHERE WE'RE TYING IN, WE HAVE TO PULL BACK. THE FARTHER WE PULL BACK, THE DEEPER OUR PIPE GETS IN, UH, IN REFERENCE TO THE EXISTING PIPE THAT WE NEED TO TIE IN. SO AS FAR THAT WE PULL BACK, HENCE WHERE THE CHANGE ORDER IS. IF WE WERE TO JUST TURN IT, THEN WE'D HAVE TO COME BACK UP AND THEN TIE IN. THAT'S WHERE THE, THE CHANGE ORDER ON THOSE, UH, UH, 45 DEGREE, UH, BENDS HAVE TO COME INTO PLAY. UM, ON TOP OF THAT, THERE WAS ALSO A HIGH PRESSURE GAS LINING THAT ALSO POPPED UP, UH, CLOSER THAN WHAT WE EXPECTED. 'CAUSE WE ANTICIPATED IT WOULD BE A LITTLE BIT FARTHER AWAY FROM THAT. SO, UM, GETTING INTO THAT, UH, KIND OF BECAME A LITTLE, UH, SO THERE WAS A LOT OF MAGIC IN THERE SOMEWHERE. THAT WAS MY QUESTION TOO. WHO'S, UH, WHOSE ANTICIPATION OR DRAWINGS WERE THESE? MM-HMM. THESE WERE, UH, LIKE I SAID, THESE WERE WHOSE GUESSTIMATIONS WERE OFF YOURS. NO, THESE WERE, THIS WAS, WE, WE TRIED TO PROVIDE, UH, THE BEST ACCURATE DRAWINGS THAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE TO US. UM, WE DID, UH, LOOK INTO OUR ARCHIVES, UM, OUR AS, AND LIKE I SAID, SOME OF THE ASBELL DRAWINGS THAT WE'VE HAD IN THE PAST, UM, WEREN'T ACCURATE. AND WE'RE NOT ENCOUNTERING THAT JUST ON THIS PROJECT ALONE. UH, THAT'S COMING UP ON, UH, ON A LOT OF PROJECTS. I THINK I'VE TALKED TO YOU MAYOR ABOUT IT, AND I THINK WE TALKED ABOUT IT, MR. . SO ON SOME OF THOSE, IT'S, UH, WE TRY TO GO WITH WHAT WE HAVE. UM, THEY TOOK OUR, OUR DRAWINGS, OUR A HUNDRED YEAR OLD DRAWINGS FOR GRANTED, IN A SENSE. YEAH. YOU, I WOULD THINK, YOU KNOW, WHEN DO YOU, WHEN DO YOU MAKE THE DECISION? DO WE GO BASED OFF THESE A HUNDRED OLD DRAWINGS? ARE WE, OR WE FACTOR IN EXPLORATORY SURVEYING BEFORE. AND SOME OF THEM WERE, THEY WEREN'T, UH, A HUNDRED YEARS OLD. UM, WE DID, UH, AND I THINK YOU JOINED US ON ONE ON ONE, UH, TRIP DOWN TO, TO [00:35:01] OUR BASEMENT WHERE WE KEEP MOST OF 'EM. WE DID FIND SOME OF OUR, OUR LARGER TRANSMISSION LINE DRAWINGS THAT THEN AGAIN, NOW WE'RE KIND OF UPDATING 'EM AS WE GO. UM, BUT AS WE UPDATE 'EM, UH, ME AND JOANNA GOT TOGETHER AND JOANNA GOT US THAT GOOD, UH, PROGRAM, THE GIS MAP. SO, UM, WE'RE MAPPING IT AS WE GO. SO WE CAN GET A LITTLE BIT, UH, BETTER AT WHEN WE DO HAVE A DEVELOPER OR, YOU KNOW, IN THIS CASE AN, UH, PROJECT THAT WE'RE OUTSOURCING. SO WHEN WE, THEY DO REQUEST THIS INFORMATION FROM US, OUR DRAWINGS AND WHAT WE PROVIDE TO THEM IS A LITTLE BIT MORE ACCURATE. SO WE DON'T RUN INTO THESE, UH, TYPE OF ISSUES. SO, UM, WE STILL GO DOWN AND, AND IF WE NEED, UH, CERTAIN PROJECTS THAT WE'RE LOOKING INTO, UH, AND IF WE CAN FIND ANY EXTRA AS-BUILT DRAWINGS THAT WILL HELP US. UH, BUT WE'RE ALSO, LIKE I SAID, UPDATING THEM ON A DAILY BASIS. OUR, OUR STAFF GOES OUT THERE, WE'LL GET A DRAWING. NOW, IF IT'S NOT EXACTLY WHAT WE THINK, WE'LL STILL GO OUT THERE AND TRY TO VERIFY, HEY, THE 16 INCH WATER LINE SAYS THAT IT RUNS ALONG, LET'S SAY SAM HOUSTON, LET'S GO VERIFY IT. THEN THAT WAY WE CAN UPDATE IT ON OUR, OUR, YOU KNOW, ON OUR GIS MAP, WHICH IS A LITTLE BIT MORE, UH, UP TO DATE AND A LITTLE BIT MORE FRIENDLY USER. AND WE CAN, UH, YOU KNOW, SUBMIT THAT INFORMATION TO, UH, THE CONTRACTORS AND DEVELOPERS TOO. WELL, I, I, I CONCUR WITH THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS HERE IN TERMS OF THIS EXPENSE. I WOULD THINK THIS IS JUST ME, THAT, THAT THE DUE DILIGENCE AS PART OF THE CONTRACTOR WOULD BE TO IDENTIFY PHYSICALLY WHERE THOSE LINES ARE, RATHER THAN JUST HAVE TO RELY ON DRAWINGS AND, AND THOSE KINDS OF THINGS. AND SO I WOULD JUST, UH, INCORPORATE IN THE FUTURE SOMEBODY ACTUALLY PHYSICALLY FINDING THESE THINGS. AND, AND A LITTLE BIT OF THE, OF THE EXTRA, UH, STUFF THAT CAME IN THERE, THE EXPLORATORY WORK PLAYS A ROLE IN THAT. SO IF THEY WOULD'VE DONE IT BEFOREHAND, THEY WOULD'VE STILL, YOU KNOW, BILLED US FOR THAT. UM, THEY DID IT AS THE PROJECT, YOU KNOW, CAME INTO FRUITION AND, AND THEY WERE ACTUALLY OUT THERE. SO, UM, THERE ARE, AND, AND THE FIRST THING I, I ASKED THE CONTRACTOR AND THE PROJECT MANAGERS, HEY, I SEE SOME PLUSES HERE, BUT I NEED TO SEE SOME MINUSES AS WELL. 'CAUSE IF WE ARE CHANGING IT. BUT, UH, THE SCOPE OF THE WORK, LIKE I SAID, HEY, THE CHANGE OF ELEVATION ON TOP OF THE, THE SEPARATION OF THE PIPES KIND OF, IT MADE IT A LITTLE BIT TRICKIER. UM, THEY ARE ANTICIPATING TO, ONCE THEY DO THESE TIE-INS, UH, ALL THESE ADDITIONS, OKAY, WE USED IT. UM, THERE'S A POSSIBILITY THAT THERE MIGHT BE SOME SUBTRACTIONS AT THE END OF THE PROJECT. WE DON'T WANT TO DO A CHANGE ORDER NOW. AND THEY HAVE TO DO A CHANGE ORDER TO RESUBMIT SOMETHING THAT WE MIGHT NEED LATER ON. OKAY. SO THEY'RE STILL ANTICIPATING, UH, A POSSIBLE, BUT THIS, UH, CHANGE ORDER IS NOT TO EXCEED THAT AMOUNT THAT YOU GUYS SEE THERE. WHAT HAPPENS IF WE SAY NO ? WELL, YOU HAVE TO REALIZE DEPENDS YEAH. WHAT THE CONTRACT WAS AND THE CON WAS THERE A CONTINGENCY ON THERE? A LEVEL THAT THEY CANNOT EXCEED? YEAH. UH, MR. UH, SALINAS? YES. GOOD EVENING. AMERICAN COMMISSIONERS, DAVID SALINAS, US WATER, UH, REGIONAL MANAGER. YES. THERE'S ALWAYS A, A 10 TO 15% CONTINGENCY ON ALL CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS. AND WE'RE ACTUALLY EATING UP THE CONTINGENCY OF THIS PROJECT ALONG WITH THE SAVINGS BASED ON THE ACTUAL BUDGET THAT WAS SET ON. 'CAUSE THE, THE, THE, THE PROJECT CAME IN UNDER BUDGET. IT WAS ORIGINALLY ESTIMATED AT ABOUT 174,000. IT CAME IN BELOW THAT BUDGET. SO THAT'S WHERE THIS FUNDING IS ON TOP OF THE CONTINGENCY. SO WE MADE UP THE DIFFERENCE. AND, AND TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, UH, WE RELIED ON STAFF TO PROVIDE US, THEY WENT OUT THERE AND LOCATED THE LINE. SO WE WENT OFF OF THEIR DATE, THEIR INFORMATION, WHEN IT WAS DESIGNED. NOW, THE, WE, THEY EVEN STAFF DIDN'T REALIZE THAT THAT 16 INCH WATER MAIN WAS THERE. IT'S JUST, UNFORTUNATELY YOU'VE HAD A LOT OF ATTRITION, LIKE YOU'RE SAYING IN THAT DEPARTMENT. AND THE PEOPLE THAT KNEW WHERE EVERYTHING WAS AT WERE NO LONGER AROUND TO CONFIRM OR TELL WHAT WAS THERE. THEY'RE NOT THE ENGINEERS. NO, THEY'RE RIGHT. NO, NO. AND THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S LIKE, IF I TELL MY GUY, MY BUILDER TO DO SOMETHING A CERTAIN WAY, AND I CAN, I WAS WRONG. I'M NOT THE CONTRACTOR. I'M NOT THE BUILDER. YEAH. HE'S THE EXPERT, RIGHT? CORRECT. AND FOR FUTURE, THIS IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE, THAT WE'RE TELLING THEM TO MAKE SURE THAT INCLUDE ALL THOSE POTHOLES INCLUDED IN THERE. 'CAUSE THAT WASN'T INCLUDED IN THE BUDGET FOR POT HOLDING TO IDENTIFY MINES. 'CAUSE THAT'S WHERE THEY TOLD US IT WAS AT. AND THAT'S WHY WE DESIGNED THAT. I, I ALSO SAW LIKE A, WAS IT $2,500 FOR BRUSH CLEARING? ADDITIONAL BRUSH CLEARING? I, I, I JUST DON'T, LIKE, SOMETIMES I FEEL LIKE CITIES GET NICKED AND D LIKE AN ARBITRARY NUMBER FOR BRUSH CLEARING. I DON'T KNOW THE VOLUME OF THE BRUSH CLEARING. I JUST DRIVE BY AND SEE IT, IT A FEW TREES. I DON'T KNOW. YEAH. IF IT, IF IT MAKES SENSE. IT'S LIKE, WHAT'S THE HOURLY RATE? YOU CHARGE US $500 AN HOUR TO CLEAR SOME BRUSH. IT'S LIKE CRAZY TO ME. YEAH. WELL IT WASN'T A SUBSTANTIAL SECTION OF THE BRUSH ON THE, ON THE, WHAT WOULD BE THE EAST SIDE? UH, WHERE ON THE, WHERE THE SIDE WHERE THEY HAD TO PUT THE FLOOR MACHINE. SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT, AND THEN TO FIND AFTERWARDS TO FIND THE PIPE TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY HAD THE RIGHT NUMBERS FOR THIS ESTIMATE. 'CAUSE THEY HAD TO GO IDENTIFY WHERE THE LINE WAS AT. AND THEY FOUND IT, UH, IT WAS A LOT CLOSER TO THE SIDEWALK THAN WAS ANTICIPATED BASED [00:40:01] ON THE LOCATES THAT WE HAD, UH, PROVIDED BY THE, BY THE PERSONNEL. SO WE, WE'VE TAKEN SOME PRECAUTIONS TO TRY TO IDENTIFY. THE ONLY UNKNOWN RIGHT NOW IS HOW DEEP THAT GAS LINE IS. 'CAUSE IT IS THERE. WE'RE HOPING IT'S SHALLOW BECAUSE THE OTHER WATER LINE THAT'S THERE IS SHALLOW. SO WE'RE HOPING THAT THIS WAS SHALLOW. WE DON'T HAVE TO GO AS DEEP TO GO UNDERNEATH. AND THAT'S WHY THERE'S NO SUBTRACTIONS IN THIS. THERE MIGHT SEEM TO BE SOME SUBTRACTION, LIKE I MENTIONED THE LAST MEETING AT THE END OF THE PROJECT. BUT WE WON'T KNOW. I GETS UNTIL I GET STOPPED. AND THEY'RE HOPING TO START THIS WEEK. WE FINALLY GOT THE THERE RIGHT NOW. SO I'M SITTING AND GOT THE EMAIL AND STUFF. THEY'RE HOPING TO START THIS WEEK TO TRY TO GET DISTINGUISHED. OKAY. FRIDAY. OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY. UM, DO I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE ? I HESITANT. WELL, A RELUCTANT, A RELUCTANT MOTION TO APPROVE. YES. AND I'LL SECOND IT. OKAY. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. ANY NAYS? MOTION PASSES, SIR. JUST BE CAREFUL. OKAY. YEP. BE A LOT MORE CAREFUL. I KNOW, I KNOW. SOLITOS, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW WHAT WE GOT. WE, WE REALIZE THAT YOU NOTHING YET. WE REALIZE YOU GUYS ARE UNDER A LOT OF PRESSURE WITH LOTS OF DIFFERENT PROJECTS AND A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS GOING ON AND LIMITED STAFF, THOSE KINDS OF THINGS. AND SO YEAH. BUT WHEN IT STARTS TALKING THIS KIND OF MONEY, WE GOTTA SPEND THE TIME TO GET IT AHEAD OF TIME, AT LEAST. FINE. OKAY. YOU HAVE SOMETHING? UM, ADAM 18. MR. GARCIA. AGAIN. MAYOR. MAYOR , PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR FOR THE RECORD. UH, THE ITEM UP FOR DISCUSSION IS WHERE AM I 18? UH, PROVE, UH, THE CHANGE ORDER, APPROVAL REQUEST, UH, SUBMITTED BY HAND TO PROFESSIONALS ON BEHALF OF FERGUSON SERVICE. UH, THIS PERTAINS TO THE STINGER, UH, THE SERVICE SHOP, UH, LIFT STATION. UM, THERE'S A TENTATIVE SCHEDULE ATTACHED ON, UH, BY THE CONTRACTOR. AND, UH, ENGINEERS REVIEWED IT, APPROVED IT. UM, THEY HAD PUT IN, UH, THE REQUEST FOR A CERTAIN, UH, UH, MATERIALS. UH, THERE'S ALSO A SEARCH TANK IS INCLUDED IN THERE ON, UH, THAT WAS DELIVERED, UH, FOR, UH, THE LIFT STATION. THAT WAS ONE OF THE LONGER LEAD TIMES. I BELIEVE. THEY, UH, PUT IN THE REQUEST SINCE, UH, JANUARY. WE RECEIVED IT, UH, LATE JULY, I BELIEVE. UM, THERE'S ALSO A LETTER FROM THE VENDOR STATING THAT OUR PUMPS WOULD BE HERE AT THE END OF THIS MONTH, UH, THIS COMING MONTH. AND IN JULY, OR I MEAN JULY, SORRY, UH, OCTOBER. UH, THE PUMPS CONSTRUCTION HAS ALREADY STARTED. UH, THEY'VE ALREADY STARTED THE DIGGING OUT THE PIT WHERE THE SEARCH TANK'S GONNA BE. AND THEY INCLUDE THE, UH, THE NEW WET WELL AND EVERYTHING THAT'S INCORPORATED IN THERE. SO THEY'VE ALREADY STARTED EXCAVATION, UH, DEWATERING PROCESS ALREADY. THEY ARE REQUESTING AN ADDITIONAL, AS YOU CAN SEE, UH, IT IS 309 DAYS IS WHAT THEY'RE REQUESTING. UM, AND THEY HAVE, LIKE I SAID, THEY INCLUDED THE, THE TIMELINE WHEN THEY ANTICIPATE TO, UH, FINISH, UM, WITH THOSE, UH, 309 DAYS THEY ANTICIPATE TO FINISH. I BELIEVE IT WAS APRIL 4TH. SO APRIL 19TH, 2024. YEAH, 24. 24. UH, JUST NOT YOUR NIGHT IS AT AABA. . YEAH. I I MEAN, THIS IS ONE OF THOSE THINGS. WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IT BEFORE. 150 DAYS ORIGINALLY TO COMPLETE THE PROJECT. AN NOW WE'RE LOOKING AT 459 DAYS. THAT'S JUST LIKE ANOTHER YEAR YOU'RE ASKING FOR. YES. UM, HOW DO WE, HOW DO WE, HOW DO WE PREVENT THAT IN THE FUTURE? UH, THE WAY WHEN, UH, I CAME ON BOARD AND WE TOOK ON, UH, AND I TOOK ON THESE PROJECTS, THEY WERE KIND OF ALREADY ON THE GO. UH, WHAT WAS DESIGNED AND SPECED OUT, UH, AND APPROVED WAS, UH, WHEN THIS SITUATION WAS, UH, FOR, FOR THIS PARTICULAR LIFT STATION, IT'S OUR, OUR MAIN LIFT STATION THAT RECEIVES ALL THE LIFT STATIONS BEFORE, AGAIN. SO EVERYTHING GOES TO THE CITY SHOP, CITY SHOP GOES TO OUR WILLIAMS LIFT STATION LIFTS, AND THEN WILLIAMS HEADS OUT TO OUR MAIN, UH, SO IMPROVING. AND I KNOW, UH, THE MAYOR STOPPED BY THERE. AND, AND WE'VE HAD THE, THE OLDER CONTROLS THAT WE HAVE THERE AT THE SHOP. SO HENCE WHY WE'RE EVERYTHING'S GONNA BE GOING UNDERGROUND, UH, ON A MORE CAPACITY TANK, UM, WITH THE NEWER WET WELL AND EVERYTHING. UM, HOW WILL THIS AFFECT, HOW WILL THE EXTENSION AFFECT CURRENT SERVICES? IT WILL NOT AFFECT THAT. WE'RE, WE'RE BUILDING OUT A WHOLE NEW LIFT STATION. SO SERVICES ARE GONNA STAY AS IS. UM, SO THE WHOLE NEW LIFT STATION WILL BE, UH, UH, CONSTRUCTED AND BUILT. UM, AS SOON AS THEY HAVE, LIKE I SAID, THAT'S WHY THEY, UH, THEY ANTICIPATE THE PUMPS TO COME IN AT THE END OF THIS COMING MONTH. UM, THAT'S NOT GONNA PLAY A ROLE. SO THEY CAN STILL DO EVERYTHING ELSE. INSTALL THE, THE SEARCH TANKS, WET WELLS, NEW, UH, CONNECTIONS. UM, AS SOON AS THE PUMPS AND EVERYTHING, THE REST OF THE LIFT STATION ISN'T, UH, IN FULL OPERATION THAT THEY FEEL, THEN THEY'LL JUST SEVER FROM OUR OLD TIES AND THEN TIE INTO THE NEW TANK AND, AND GO FROM THERE. I'M ASSUMING THAT WE'RE WORKING ON THIS NOW BECAUSE IT ABSOLUTELY HAD TO BE DONE. YES. AND SO MY CONCERN BECOMES WHAT [00:45:01] HAPPENS IF WE RUN INTO MAINTENANCE ISSUES AND THAT STARTS COSTING A LOT OF MONEY BEFORE WE COMPLETE THIS PROJECT. UH, I JUST, JUST SOMETHING YOU GOTTA, YOU KNOW, I START THINKING ABOUT IS, OKAY, WE HAVE TO SPEND A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS TO REPAIR THE EXISTING ONE UNTIL WE GET THE NEW PROJECT FINISHED. YOU KNOW, I MEAN THAT, THOSE ARE, THOSE ARE STUFF THAT JUST COME OUT. I WONDER IF YOU COULD, I WONDER IF YOU COULD WRITE INTO THE CONTRACT, AND IT MIGHT BE A QUESTION FOR THE CITY ATTORNEY, IF WE COULD WRITE INTO A CONTRACT. IF YOU DON'T FINISH BY THE EXPECTED DEADLINE, SOME SORT OF DISCOUNT WILL BE WARRANTED, RIGHT? BECAUSE IT, IT MAYBE HANDICAPS HANDICAPS US FOR A WHILE. COME OVER. YEAH. UH, , I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S EVER BEEN DONE. RIGHT. PUT UM, MAY I MORE STRICT DEADLINE ON THERE. AND IF YOU DON'T MEET IT, YOU OWE US MONEY. DAVID SALINA JUICE WATER. YOU ALREADY HAVE SOMETHING LIKE THAT IN THE CONTRACT. IT'S CALLED A, UM, A, IT'S, IF YOU DELAY IT, YOU GET PAID A, A, A FINE FOR EVERY DAY THAT YOU'RE PASSED IT. THAT'S WHY THEY'RE ASKING YOU FOR AN EXTENSION ON THE TIMELINE BECAUSE THEY, THEY COULDN'T CONTROL THE TIMELINE, UNFORTUNATELY. WHAT DELAYED THIS PROJECT? 'CAUSE I KIND OF OVER, UH, SAW YOUR, YOUR CONTRACT JUST TO REVIEW IT. UH, I WAS ASKED BY THE FORMER ADMINISTRATION JUST TO REVIEW IT AND SEE, MAKE SURE EVERYTHING WAS OKAY. 'CAUSE Y ALL RECEIVED ONLY ONE BID ON THIS PROJECT. I DON'T KNOW IF Y'ALL REMEMBER THAT. SO HE WANTED US TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING WAS LEGIT AND GO BACK OUT. UNFORTUNATELY, THE FIBERGLASS TANK THAT HE'S TALKING ABOUT, THE SURGE TANK, BECAUSE THE RESIN TO CREATE THE FIBERGLASS HAS BEEN IN SHORT SUPPLY EVER SINCE. COVID TAKES A LONG TIME TO GET THAT. THAT'S REALLY WHAT'S DELAYED IN YOUR PROJECT. THEN THE NEXT THING WAS THE PUMPS, BECAUSE OF ALL THOSE MICROCHIPS THAT, THAT WERE DELAYED TO CHINA, 'CAUSE ALL THOSE GO IN THE CONTROLS INSIDE THE PUMPS. NOW A LOT OF THE NEW CONTROLS AND PIPES HAVE MICROCHIPS THAT DETECT MOISTURE, TEMPERATURE, VIBRATION TO PROTECT THE PUMPS SO IT DOESN'T BREAK. SO YOU ASKED HOW TO PREVENT THOSE, THOSE DELAYS. UNFORTUNATELY, RIGHT NOW IT'S, IT'S A CRAPSHOOT OUT THERE BECAUSE EVERYTHING IS AFFECTING EVERYTHING FROM FUEL. 'CAUSE EVEN CHEMICALS, WE'VE SEEN PRICES AND CHEMICALS GO UP BY 30 40% BECAUSE OF, OF, OF THE, OF A CERTAIN PRODUCT NOT TO MAKE IT. UH, WE HAD AN ISSUE WITH CHLORINE BECAUSE OF A CERTAIN OF A CERTAIN PRODUCT TO MAKE THE CHLORINE. SO EVERYTHING'S GONE UP. BUT THAT'S REALLY WHAT DELAYED THIS PROJECT. AND THAT'S WHY THE CHANGE ORDER, BECAUSE YOU HAVE LITIGATED DAMAGES, LIQUIDATED DAMAGES IN THE CONTRACT THAT SAYS IF YOU DON'T MEET YOUR EXTENSION, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO PAY US BACK X AMOUNT. AND I, AND I MIGHT LEAVE YOUR CONTRACT AT A $500 LIQUIDATED DAMAGE PER DAY. AND THAT'S STANDARD FOR THE CONTRACTS. SO FOR EVERY DAY THAT THEY DIDN'T MEET THE, THE SUBSTANTIAL COMPLETION, THEY WOULD HAVE TO COVER YOU AT A 500. SO TECHNICALLY WE CAN NEGOTIATE THEN A SHORTER EXTENSION. YES, YOU GUYS CAN NEGOTIATE ANYTHING THROUGH YOUR ENGINEER, UH, BECAUSE THAT, THAT'S WHY YOU HAVE THE ENGINEER TO NEGOTIATE THAT AND THAT THAT IS A POSSIBILITY. MM-HMM. OF COURSE THEY'RE GONNA ARGUE THAT THIS IS THE LETTER THAT WE'VE RECEIVED FROM OUR SUPPLIER ON GETTING THIS HERE. IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE CAN CONTROL. IT'S OUT OF THEIR CONTROL. AND THERE IS A SECTION OF THE CONTRACT THAT ALSO SAYS THAT FORCE AND ALL THIS OTHER STUFF THAT THEY HAVE, THEY'RE OUT OF CONTROL. BUT YES, YOU CAN NEGOTIATE THAT AND THEY CAN GO BACK TO THEIR VENDORS AND NEGOTIATE TO TRY TO GET A, A SHORTER TIMEFRAME. BUT UNFORTUNATELY, UH, THE EQUIPMENT THAT WAS SPECKED OUT FOR THE DOES HAVE A LONG EIGHT TIME AND THAT'S WHY THEY ORDERED IT AHEAD OF SCHEDULE. OKAY. IT DOES HAVE A LONG EIGHT TIME. THEN ANOTHER ALTERNATIVE WOULD BE TO IS I, I WANT TO MAKE, MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T HAVE AN EXISTING FACILITY THAT GOES BONKERS ON US OR WE LOSE BECAUSE OF THE EXTENDED TIME. IS THERE ANY WAY TO INCORPORATE ANY TYPE OF A FINE INTO THAT THAT SAYS IF WE HAVE PROBLEMS HERE BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT FINISHED HERE, YOU'RE GONNA PAY FOR THIS. THAT'S, THAT'S REALLY FAR OUT. WELL THAT, THAT, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT I WOULD REFER TO YOUR PARENTS. YEAH. RIGHT. . 'CAUSE THEY HAVE NO CONTROL OVER THAT. NOW IF YOU RUN INTO THE CONTRACT, THEY'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE OPERATION MAINTENANCE OF THE EXISTING FACILITY WHILE IN THE CONSTRUCTION, THEN YOU HAVE SOME LEGAL RECOURSE TO THAT. YEAH. AND DON'T, DON'T TAKE IT TO ME. NO. THAT'S SOMETHING TO CONSIDER IN THE FUTURE. I UNDERSTAND. THAT'S SO I'M JUST THROWING THAT OUT THERE AS JUST A THOUGHTS. JUST REMEMBER THE MOST OF THAT, MORE OF THAT STUFF THAT YOU ADDED TO THE MORE THE DOLLAR AMOUNT GOES UP. 'CAUSE THEN THE CONTRACTOR HAS ASSUMED MORE RISK AND MORE LIABILITY. SO HE IS GOTTA COVER MORE ON PERFORMANCE BOND AND PAYMENT BONDS. SO THAT ALL ADDS COST TO IT. IT, IT'D BE AWESOME TO PUT ON THERE. IF YOU DON'T DELIVER THIS, I WANT 50% UPFRONT. RIGHT. BUT I MEAN, SOME CONTRACTORS WILL DO IT, BUT YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO DO THAT PERFORMANCE BOND AND, AND, AND UH, PAYMENT BONDS AGAIN. SO, SO MY ONLY CONCERN AT THIS POINT, AGAIN, WOULD BE SINCE WE'RE KINDA LIMITED HERE, IS MAKING SURE WE TAKE CARE OF THE EXISTING FACILITY BEFORE THIS OTHER PROJECT IS COMPLETED. SO I, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT DO WE GOTTA DO THERE? IS THERE ANYTHING? I DON'T KNOW THAT YOU HAVE THE ANSWERS TO THAT, BUT NO, AS OF RIGHT NOW, UM, THE MAIN, UH, THE MAIN TIMES WE DO HAVE ISSUES IS WHEN WE DO HAVE MAJOR RAIN EVENTS. 'CAUSE WE HAVE A LOT OF INFILTRATION. OH, WE HAVEN'T HAD ANY OF THAT, HAVE WE? YEAH. SO AS SOON AS WE GET THE INFILTRATION INTO THE OTHER LIFT STATIONS, LIKE I SAID, ALL WE HAVE OUR MAIN LIFT STATIONS, OUR LAND ROOM, OUR, UH, IT'S LANDRUM, VIRGINIA AND OUR HEV LIFT STATION, [00:50:01] ALL EVERYTHING FUNNELS FROM THE SMALLER LIFT STATIONS TO THOSE THREE MAIN LIFT STATIONS. AND THEN THOSE THREE LIFT STATIONS FUNNEL INTO OUR SEARCH TANK. UM, ON A NORMAL DAY OPERATIONS, NO ISSUES. EVERYTHING RUNS ACCORDINGLY. UM, IT'S MAINLY WHEN WE DO HAVE EVENTS. OKAY, WELL THIS, THIS IS NOT THE ISSUE RIGHT NOW, OF COURSE, BUT I'M GONNA BRING IT UP AND I'M GONNA SAY, OKAY, GREAT. WHAT ARE WE DOING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CLEAR DRAINS OR WHATEVER WE NEED TO DO IN ORDER TO PREPARE FOR SUCH A RAIN EVENT? 'CAUSE WE'RE GONNA GET IT. YES. NO, IN THAT SITUATION, WE WILL, UH, PUMP DOWN OUR, OUR LIFT STATIONS AND MAKE SURE THAT HEY, WE FUNNEL EVERYTHING DOWN THE LINE AND GET IT DOWN TO OUR, OUR WASTEWATER PLANT. OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY. CAN WE, CAN WE NEGOTIATE A FEWER DAYS? A A SHORTER EXTENSION? WE, I CAN, UH, TALK TO THE ENGINEERS AND, AND GET THEIR, UH, RECOMMENDATION AS WELL. LIKE I SAID, THEY DID ADD A TENTATIVE SCHEDULE HOW THEY FEEL, HEY, THIS IS, UH, THE SCHEDULE THAT WE, WE FEEL, UH, APPROPRIATE, UH, TO GET THE JOB DONE. BUT IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU'D LIKE ME TO LOOK INTO, I I CAN, I I I JUST FEEL DECEIVED TO A CERTAIN EXTENT WHEN YOU ADD THIS MANY DAYS TO A CONTRACT. YES. I MEAN THEY, THEY WOULD'VE KNOWN BEFOREHAND THAT SOME OF THIS STUFF WAS GONNA BE LONG LEAD TIMES. UH, AND WE HAD THOSE DISCUSSIONS, UH, STINGER, LIFT STATION, LANDRUM, THOSE WERE SOME OF OUR LIFT STATIONS THAT WERE OUR SSO. UM, THEY BROUGHT IT UP TO OUR, UH, TO OUR ATTENTION. LIKE THE CONTRACT DAYS. IT, IT SEEMS FAIRLY SHORT. WE DON'T FEEL THAT WE'D BE ABLE TO RECEIVE MATERIAL AND DO THE CONSTRUCTION ALL WITHIN THAT TIME PERIOD. UM, CONSIDERING WHERE THE CITY SAT WITH, WITH THAT SSO, WE NEED TO GET 'EM UNDER CONTRACT AND, AND GO ON, UH, TO GET 'EM, AT LEAST TO THAT POINT. WHAT'S INTERESTING IS THAT WHEN THESE CONTRACTS ARE COMING UP FOR SOME OF THESE LIFT STATIONS, I MENTIONED THAT SOME WERE CHEAPER, BUT I, I THINK I REMEMBER ADMINISTRATION SAYING THAT, WELL, YEAH, THEY'RE CHEAPER, BUT LOOK HOW LONG IT'S GONNA TAKE YOU AND YOU'RE GONNA GET FINED IF YOU DON'T DO THIS ONE BECAUSE THIS ONE'S THE SHORTEST TIME. AND THAT'S WHY WE WENT WITH HANSON. SO LOOKING BACK NOW, I'M LIKE, UH, YOU TOLD ME THIS WAS A LITTLE MORE EXPENSIVE, BUT I WAS GONNA GET IT FASTER. AND THIS IS WHY THE COMMISSION, THIS FELT LIKE THE COMMISSION WAS LED RIGHT. TO HANSEN. SO THAT, THAT'S WHY I ALWAYS CAUTION THE COMMISSION WHERE, VERSUS WITH SOME OTHER THINGS WE'VE DISCUSSED IS A QUICK TURNAROUND. IT'S NOT ALWAYS THE BEST BECAUSE THERE'S NO REPERCUSSIONS. RIGHT. AND MAYBE THERE IS MR. SALINAS, BUT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THE CITY ATTORNEY'S GONNA HAVE TO START LOOKING AT BECAUSE I DON'T WANNA KEEP HEARING. WE CAN GET, WE CAN TURN AROUND THIS FOR YOU VERY QUICKLY, BUT IT'S A LITTLE MORE EXPENSIVE AND IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE THAT'S BEEN THE CASE. THERE'S A LOT OF FALSE PROMISES. UNDERSTOOD. WELL, LET ME ASK YOU THEN, UM, BY EXTENDED DAYS, I MEAN, IS THERE, THE COST IS GONNA GO UP OR DOWN OR ANYTHING? SO IT'S NOT UP TO US. I MEAN IT'S, I MEAN, IT'S ALMOST LIKE A YEAR. IT MIGHT GET CHEAPER FOR THEM. THEY'RE ALREADY GONNA GET PAID. THEY'RE JUST WAITING FOR COST OF GOODS TO GO DOWN. SO IT'D BE A LITTLE CHEAPER FOR THEM. THAT'S WHAT I WOULD DO IF I WAS CONTRACTOR. YEAH. THAT'S WHAT MOST CONTRACTORS WERE DOING. BUILDING YOUR HOUSE. HEY, I NEED A LITTLE MORE TIME WAITING FOR THAT LUMBER TO GO DOWN. SO THEY DON'T HAVE, THEY DON'T LOSE AS MUCH. MM-HMM. . SOME ARE VERY HONEST ABOUT IT, SOME AREN'T. WELL, AND IS THAT WE DO HAVE SOME QUALIFIED ENGINEERS AND, AND PEOPLE THAT ARE LOOKING INTO IT SAY WHY, YOU KNOW, THAT, UH, THEY'RE GONNA BE ON THEM. YEP. RIGHT. AND LIKE MR. LINA STATED, WE, UH, WHEN WE DID RECEIVE THAT ONE BID, WE DID ACTUALLY TAKE IT OUT AND, AND, UH, YOU KNOW, US WATER IS, UH, A CONSULTANT OF OURS. SO WE HAD THEM LOOKING OVER AND THE NUMBERS CAME BACK PRETTY ACCURATE, UH, ALONG THE LINES OF WHAT IT WAS GONNA COST, UH, ON WHAT WAS APPROVED BY UH, CITY COMMISSION FOR, FOR THAT LIFT STATION ONE. OKAY. YEAH. AND THAT WAS IT. BUT AS LONG AS, I GUESS THE ONLY THING I CAN THINK SAY IS AS LONG AS YOU GUYS ARE ON IT AND PUSHING THEM TO UH, TRY TO FINISH IT UP, HAVE THEM, SO HAVE 'EM GO LOOK AND SEE WHERE THEY CAN REDUCE THE DAYS THEY'RE ASKING FOR 309 DAY EXTENSION. RIGHT. I AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER. OKAY. GOODMAN NEGOTIATE. OKAY. DAYS ONLY. YEAH. MM-HMM, HOW MUCH DAYS, HOW MANY DAYS ARE WE TALKING ABOUT? JUST TELL 'EM TO HAVE TO REEVALUATE IT. BRING IT BACK TO US ON NEVER MAKE THE FIRST MOVE. I, I JUST WANT 'EM TO KNOW WE'RE SERIOUS. YEAH. YOU KNOW, AS MUCH AS ANYTHING. 'CAUSE DAD COMET, I, I FEEL LIKE I'VE BEEN TOYED WITH TO A CERTAIN EXTENT BY THEM. I I DON'T, I DON'T APPRECIATE THAT. MM-HMM. . SO IT'S GONNA BE LIKE A YEAR, 40 DAYS. NO. YEAH. JUST THE, THE HUGE AMOUNT OF THE EXTENSION. I WELL, WE'RE PUTTING YOU IN A TOUGH POSITION. THANK YOU. BUT I, SORRY ABOUT THAT, BUT NO, YOU UNDERSTAND. YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT WE'RE SAYING. I AND I HAVE THESE CONVERSATIONS WITH THEM. LIKE I SAID, THEY PROPOSE SOMETHING. YEAH. AND THEY DO THE RECOMMENDATION. WE REVIEW IT. I, I, I, WHEN, WHEN DOES THE DATE START FOR THE 109 DAYS OR THE, UH, HUNDRED 50 DAYS? IT STARTED ON JANUARY. THE TIME WAS ORIGINAL. CONTRACT TIME WAS JUNE 15TH. JUNE 15TH. JUNE 15TH. OKAY. [00:55:01] SO WHEN THEY GOT THE SEARCH TANK, THAT'S WHEN YOU STARTED THE WORK AND THAT'S WHEN THE TIME STARTS. YES. WAS THE A HUNDRED, WELL, FIRST IT WAS, YEAH. HUNDRED 50 DAYS. AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE, ON THE SCHEDULE THERE. THEY, THEY HAVE THAT, HOLD ON. WELL, IT'S ACTUALLY ON THE NEXT, THE, THE NEXT ITEM UP FOR THIS. THAT'S WHERE THE TENANT SCHEDULE IS AT, WHERE THE CONTRACTOR, 'CAUSE IT'S THE SAME PROJECT. UM, SO THE NEXT ITEM, OBVIOUSLY THEY'RE GONNA BE REQUESTING THE PAYMENT FOR THE, FOR THAT SEARCH TANK THAT THEY RECEIVED. AND, UH, THE WORK THAT THEY'VE ALREADY STARTED, UH, THERE. UM, LIKE I SAID, WHAT GOT APPROVED FOR THAT SEARCH TANK, THE UNDERGROUND SEARCH TANK. 'CAUSE RIGHT NOW IT'S AN OPEN, IT USED TO BE AN OLD CLARIFIER AND THEY CONVERTED IT OVER INTO A, A SEARCH TANK. UM, OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE THE ODOR CONTROL. IT'S HARD TO ORDER CONTROL THAT 'CAUSE IT'S, IT'S A, IT'S AN OPEN PIT BASIN. UM, HENCE WHY, WHEN IT WAS BEING, UH, DESIGNED, THEY DECIDED TO GO UNDERGROUND AND DO A SEARCH TANK, WHICH IN TURN, UH, TO MAKE THAT, UH, THAT SEARCH TANK, LIKE MR. SALINA SAID, THE RESIN TO MAKE IT, IT, IT WAS HARD TO GET. UM, WHICH THEN LED TO A LONGER LEAD TIME. UM, YEAH, I, I, I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE SEND THIS BACK TO SEE IF WE CAN'T GET AN EARLIER COMPLETION TIME. PUT A LITTLE MORE PRESSURE ON HIM. ROGER THAT. OKAY. SECOND. OKAY. SO I GOT FIRST AND SECOND TO, UH, RENEGOTIATE AT LEAST THE TIME ON IT. THE TIMEFRAME, THE TIMEFRAME ON IT. SO, UH, IS THAT GONNA BE, SO WHO ARE WE GOING TO GIVE IT TO? TO YOU OR TO THE, UH, ATTORNEYS? NO, I CAN CHECK IT. YOU CAN DO IT. MM-HMM. . OKAY. SO, SO WE ARE GONNA AUTHORIZE, UH, MR. A**L TO DO THIS, UH, RENEGOTIATE THE TIME FOR A SHORTER TIME ON THIS. SO I HAVE A FIRST AND SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. ANY NAYS? MOTION PASSES. SORRY, YOUR HONOR. BOB, GO FOR IT BUDDY. MAYOR. MAYOR. AS LONG AS CUP COMMISSIONERS. HOLD ON. UH, NUMBER ITEM NUMBER 20, MR. GARCIA. OKAY. 19. 19. 19. YES. UH, NEXT ITEM FOR DISCUSSION IS, UH, TO APPROVE PAYMENT TO FERGUS SERVICES, UH, SYSTEM INC. UH, PERTAINING TO THE STINGER SEARCH TANK, UH, IN THE TOTAL AMOUNT OF $149,705 AND 75 CENTS. I'M WILLING FOR ANY QUESTIONS. MOTION TO APPROVE. OKAY, I GOT A MOTION BY THIS. UH, COMMISSIONER GOMAN. SECOND. YES. SECOND. SECOND BY MAYOR . ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. ANY NAYS? MOTION PASSES. GOOD FAITH. WE WORK THEM. OKAY. ITEM NUMBER 20, MR. GARCIA. THE ITEM FOR DISCUSSION IS TO RATIFY PAYMENT TO SOUTHERN TRENCH OF SOLUTIONS, UH, FOR SEWER LINE, UH, REPAIRS ON DOTTIE STREET, UH, AND THE TOTAL AMOUNT OF $16,750. WHICH ONE DOES THAT ONE FOR? UH, WE HAD A SEWER BACKUP. UM, I BELIEVE YOU WERE THERE, MAYOR, UH, THE ONE THAT WAS IN FRONT OF THE CITY SHOP. OH, YES. UH, OKAY. THE ISSUE THERE WAS IT'S, UH, WE WERE HAVING, UH, SEWER PROBLEMS, UH, WITH SOME OF THE, THE NEIGHBORHOOD IN THE AREA. UH, YEAH, THREE EIGHT INCH LINES COME INTO ONE MANHOLE AND ONE SIX INCH LINE LEAD, ONE SIX INCH. SO IF YOU CAN KIND OF VISUALIZE THAT, THAT WAS GONNA CAUSE AN ISSUE. UH, OUR, OUR STAFF TRIED TO THEIR BEST TO TRY TO GET TO THE, THE PROBLEM. UM, NO, NO LUCK THERE. BUT WE CONTACTED, UH, SOUTHERN TRENCH SOLUTIONS. THEY'VE WORKED WITH US IN THE PAST. THEY HELPED US OUT ON A, ON A MAIN, UH, SEWER LINE, BREAK OUT ON BUSINESS 77. UH, CONSIDERING THE DEPTHS, THIS MANHOLE WAS APPROXIMATELY, I BELIEVE, EIGHT OR 10 FEET DEEP. SO, UM, THAT BUR THEY THOUGHT IT WAS A, UH, A POINT BREAK THAT WE WERE GONNA HAVE TO GET TO. 'CAUSE IT IS AN OAK CLAY LINE. UM, IT WAS, AS YOU COULD TELL, I THINK, MAYOR, YOU WERE THERE WHEN THEY PULLED OUT. YES. IT WAS, UH, BASICALLY A LOG OF, OF WIPIES AND, YEAH, JUST MATERIAL. UM, SO THEY HAD A BYPASS PUMP THAT DOWN, UH, TO GET TO THE, TO THE ACTUAL POINT WHERE THEY WERE ABLE TO UNCLOG AND THEY TRIED TO GO IN, I THINK IT WAS APPROXIMATELY 500 FEET FROM ONE END. UH, BUT THE BACK PRESSURE THAT WAS CAUSING THE BLOCKAGE FROM THE, UH, THE SERVICES THAT WERE COMING IN. SO WATER'S PUSHING DOWN ON THE CLOCK AND WE'RE ING FROM ONE SIDE. SO IT WAS, UH, THERE WAS, UH, YEAH, THERE, THERE WAS NO MOVEMENT THERE. THAT'S WHEN, UH, WE, WE DID CONTACT THEM. UH, THEY CAME IN, UH, WE WERE ABLE TO ASSESS, UH, ASSESS THE SITUATION. WE DIDN'T HAVE TO BREAK GROUND OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. UM, BUT FINALLY WE WERE ABLE TO GET TO THE SOLUTION, GET EVERYBODY'S SERVICES. UM, WE ARE LOOKING INTO, UH, POSSIBLY, UH, DOING, UH, MAYBE A PIPE PERSON TO MAYBE GO WITH A LARGER PIPE ON THE, ON THE DISCHARGE SIDE. 'CAUSE ARE WE KEEPING, THE DESIGN DOES NOT, THAT, THAT DESIGN ON THAT MANHOLE DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO US. WHY THREE EIGHT INCH LINES AND THEN ONE COMES OUT. ARE WE KEEPING GOOD RECORDS ON THIS NOW? YES, SIR. ? YEAH, COMMERS. I, I MEAN, I WAS THERE AND [01:00:01] IT'S, IT'S UNBELIEVABLE SOMETIMES WITH, UH, THIS, UM, THIS WORK OR SOME OF THESE COMPANIES ARE DOING. AND, UM, MY HAD OUT TO HIM. BUT, UH, THAT'S WHAT WE GOT. THAT'S WHAT MOTION. MOTION TO APPROVE. AH, SECOND. OKAY. I GOT A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER, UM, GOODMAN. GOOD. . I FORGET YOUR NAME BY COMMISSIONER GOODMAN. SECOND BY COMMISSIONER MORALES. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. ANY NAY? MOTION PASSES. YOU BROKE MY TRAIN OF THOUGHTS. OKAY. TRYING TO BE HELPFUL. OKAY. NO. ITEM 21. MR. GARCIA MAYOR, MAYOR PRO TEMP PAN GARCIA PUBLIC. FIRST FOR THE RECORD, THE ITEM FOR DISCUSSION, UH, IS, UH, APPROVED PAYMENT TO SOUTHERN TRENCH SOLUTIONS FOR THE AL LIVE STATION IN THE TOTAL AMOUNT OF 28,998 AND 10 CENTS. UH, THIS PAYMENT WOULD CONCLUDE AND CLOSE OUT THEA LIFT STATION. OKAY. THE CONTRACTOR WAS SOUTHERN TRENCHLESS, WHICH WE USED FOR THE PREVIOUS ITEM THAT WE JUST DISCUSSED. THIS WOULD BE THE FINAL RETAINAGE PAYMENT AND CLOSE OUT THAT PROJECT. CITY STAFF HAS DONE A WALKTHROUGH OF THE LIFT STATION. THE LIFT STATION'S BEEN OPERATION FOR SEVERAL MONTHS NOW. NO ISSUES, NO PROBLEMS BEEN WORKING. UH, PERFECTLY FINE. I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS. MOTION TO APPROVE. OKAY. GOT A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER GOODMAN. SECOND. SECOND. SECOND BY COMMISSIONER MORALES. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. ANY NAYS? MOTION PASSES. THANK YOU. ITEM NUMBER 22, MS. STEPHANIE, GOOD EVENING. STEPHANIE SANANDO, FINANCE DIRECTOR FOR THE RECORD. TODAY, I'M PRESENTING TO YOU THE FINANCIAL REPORT FOR THE MONTH OF JULY, 2023. AGAIN, WE'RE TRYING TO CATCH UP ON THE MONTHS FOR THE MONTH OF JULY 31ST, 2023. WE HAD A TOTAL AMOUNT OF ASSETS OF 17 POINT, ALMOST 7 MILLION COMPARED TO JULY 31ST, 2022 OF LAST YEAR OF 16.5, UM, MILLION. AND YOU CAN SEE THAT WE DO HAVE SOME DIFFERENT, UM, ALLOCATION OF MONIES COMPARED TO LAST YEAR TO THIS YEAR. WE HAD IT MORE SPREAD OUT. NOW WE HAVE IT. UM, WE'VE BEEN MOVING IT AROUND TO THE ONES THAT ARE PROVIDING US THE MOST INTEREST ARE SALES TAXES BEHIND LAST YEAR. OUR PROPERTY TAX COLLECTIONS ARE BEHIND LAST YEAR. PROPERTY A LITTLE BIT, A LITTLE BIT ABOUT $10,000 AROUND THAT. WHERE'S THE, WHERE'S THE OTHER FROM? WHERE'S THE OTHER? WE GOT OTHER 1.2 MILLION. THAT'S, UH, OTHER RECEIVABLES THAT WE GET, FEES, THINGS LIKE THAT, UH, THAT THE CITY COLLECTS MONEY FROM. I MEAN, ON THE, IT COULD BE MORE IN DETAIL ON THE BACK OF YOUR SUPPORTING DOCUMENTATION. IT'S JUST THAT IT'S NOT INCLUDED IN THE PRESENTATIONS. IT DOES HAVE A LISTING OF ALL THE RECEIVABLES THAT YOU, THAT YOU HAVE. IT'S, IT'S ON THE, OKAY. I'LL LOOK FOR, THANK YOU. YES, I DON'T, I DON'T RECALL ON THE TOP OF MY HEAD WHAT INCLUDES ALL OF THAT. I THOUGHT YOU KNEW EVERYTHING. STEPHANIE, I'M SORRY. I THOUGHT YOU KNEW EVERYTHING. NO, SIR. I WISH. UM, FOLLOWING THAT WE HAVE A TOTAL LIABILITIES OF 1.9 COMPARED TO LAST YEAR, 2.6 TOTAL FOR IMBALANCE OF, UH, 15 MILLION COMPARED TO 13 MILLION OF LAST YEAR. TOTAL LIABILITY FUND BALANCE AS MENTIONED BEFORE, 17 POINTS ALMOST SEVEN COMPARED TO LAST YEAR, 16.5. MOVING FORWARD, WE HAVE OUR REVENUES, UH, FOR THE MONTH COMPARED TO LAST MONTH, AND THE YEAR TO DATE. TOTAL FOR THE MONTH, ACTUAL MONTH, JULY 31ST, 2023. WE HAVE 939,000 110 OF LAST YEAR, EIGHT HUNDRED AND EIGHTY, SEVEN HUNDRED AND TWENTY NINE. YEAR TO DATE, 13,000,320 WITH A HUNDRED OR TOTAL EXPENSES FOR THE MONTH. TODAY, UH, WE HAVE 1.3 MILLION COMPARED TO LAST YEAR, 1.1 MILLION. UM, THIS MONTH WE WERE, UM, EXPENDITURES OF OUR REVENUES OF 360 4 19 COMPARED TO THE YEAR TODAY, WHICH WE ARE POSITIVE, UH, ON REVENUES OF 1.4 MILLION. AND THAT'S IT FOR ME. WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY SALES SAR FOR THIS, UM, MONTH, BUT WE WILL BRING 'EM IN NEXT MONTH. OKAY. ANY QUESTIONS? ANY QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONERS? NONE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. OKAY, HONOR NUMBER 23, EXECUTIVE SESSION. UM, 23 8, CONSULT WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY PURSUANT TO A TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE, UH, 1.2 2.1071 TO DISCUSS THEIR PRIVILEGE, COMMUNICATION PROTECTED BY THE ATTORNEY CLIENT, UH, PRIVILEGE. UH, 23 B DELIBERATION PURSUANT TO THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE 5 0 1 0.0872 ON INCENTIVES AND, AND THE [01:05:01] ORDER BUSINESS PROJECT, UH, THAT CITY SEEK TO LOCATE, UH, WITHIN CITY RGV EPIC CENTER, UH, PROJECT AND TO CONSULT WITH LEGAL COUNSEL PURSUANT TO A TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE FIVE 1.0712 UNRELATED ISSUES. AND ITEM NUMBER 23 C. UH, DISCUSSION AND DELIBERATION PURSUANT TO TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE, THE 5 0 1 0.074 REGARDING CITY MANAGER'S EMPLOYMENT APPLICATION. AND THE TIME IS, UH, 6 35. WE'RE EXECUTIVE SESSION. OKAY, THE TIME IS, UH, 7:00 PM AND WE'RE BACK FROM EXECUTIVE SESSION ITEMS NUMBER 23 A 23 B 23 C. NO ACTION. AND I HAVE A MOTION TO ADJOURN. MOTION. MOTION. I GOT A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BY MAYOR, TEAM GAVAN, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER SANCHEZ. TIME IS, UM, 7 0 1. WE ADJOURN. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.