Dec 19, 2023 Commission Meetings

WE ALL MADE IT.

TWO PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE WITH THE US FLAG AND A TEXAS FLAG.

AND, UH, PLEASE REMAIN STANDARD FOR THE INVOCATION.

I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE IN THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, GOAL OF LIBERTY AND JUSTICE.

FOR ALL HONOR TEXAS FLAG, I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE TEXAS ONE STATE NEW GOD.

ONE INDIVISIBLE.

LET US PRAY.

DEAR HEAVENLY FATHER, AS WE PREPARE TO CELEBRATE CHRISTMAS, WE GATHER THIS EVENING AS A COMMUNITY READY TO CELEBRATE THE BIRTH OF YOUR SON, JESUS CHRIST.

WE HUMBLY INVOKE YOUR PRESENCE IN OUR MIDST AND PRAY THAT YOU FILL OUR HEARTS WITH THE TRUE SPIRIT OF CHRISTMAS, A SPIRIT OF LOVE, HOPE, AND PEACE.

AND MAY YOUR LIGHT SHINE BRIGHTLY WITHIN US AS WE HEAD INTO THE NEW YEAR CONTINUALLY GUIDING OUR THOUGHTS AND ACTIONS IN A MATTER WORTHY OF YOU.

WE ASK THIS THROUGH CHRIST OUR LORD.

AMEN.

THANK YOU, MR. PAA.

ITEM FOUR, UH, ITEMS OF COMMUNITY INTEREST.

UH, ITEM NUMBER ONE, UH, CEO OFFICE WILL BE, UH, CLOSED ON DECEMBER 25TH, 2020 AND 2026.

I MEAN, DECEMBER 25TH AND 26TH FOR CHRISTMAS, AND DECEMBER 29, AND JANUARY 1ST, 20 YEARS.

AND ITEM NUMBER TWO, UH, REPUBLIC SERVICE WILL PICK UP THE TRASH ON CHRISTMAS DAY AND NEW YEAR'S DAY AS, AS REGULARLY SCHEDULED.

AND THAT'S IT.

COMMISSIONERS, DO WE HAVE ANY, ANYTHING ON THE, TO ADD TO THIS ON THE COMMITTEE INTEREST? ANYBODY? NO.

UH, RUTH, DO WE HAVE ANYBODY FOR COMMENT? NO, MAYOR.

WE'RE LOOKING AT A COMPARISON OF BOOK VALUE FROM SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2022, 45,870,587, COMPARED TO THIS YEAR, 46 MILLION FIVE HUNDRED FORTY NINE FIVE HUNDRED AND FORTY.

OKAY,

[PRESENTATION(S)]

NEXT ONE.

WE GOT THE PRESENTATIONS.

WE GOT THE STEPHANIE, SIA.

GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR, COMMISSIONER S SANANDO, FINANCE DIRECTOR.

FOR THE RECORD, UM, THIS ITEM, IT'S FOR ACKNOWLEDGEMENT, AND IT'S THE INVESTMENT REPORT ENDING OF SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2023.

THIS IS THE FOURTH QUARTER.

UM, THIS INVESTMENT REPORT IS CONDUCTED BY OUR CONSULTING VALLEY VIEW.

SO ON OUR FIRST PAGE, WE DO HAVE A COMPARISON OF WHAT IT WAS LAST YEAR, SEPTEMBER 22, COMPARED TO THIS YEAR, SEPTEMBER, 2023.

ON THE BOTTOM PORTION OF IT, YOU WOULD SEE THE COMPARISON OF HOW OUR INTEREST RATE WERE TO THE WAY THEY ARE RIGHT NOW.

AGAIN, THIS IS ON PAGE NUMBER ONE.

FOLLOWED BY THAT.

WE HAVE A SUMMARY ON PAGE NUMBER TWO.

ON THIS SUMMARY.

YOU COULD SEE THE QUARTERLY INTEREST IN, UM, INCOME FOR THIS QUARTER AND THE YEAR TO DATE INTEREST INCOME ON THE BOTTOM OF THE PAGE.

THIS, IT'S KINDA, IT'S A REPORT THAT MAINLY REPEATS ITSELF IN DIFFERENT FORMS. SO ON THE, LIKE I SAID, ON THE VERY BOTTOM OF IT, YOU SEE THE QUARTERLY INTEREST INCOME OF 664,723, THE YEAR DATE OF A MILLION, 195,609, FOLLOWED BY THAT, YOU SEE THE ECONOMIC OVERVIEW.

SO THIS IS MORE OF A GRAPHIC OF THE SAME INFORMATION.

AND THEN ON PAGE NUMBER FOUR, YOU HAVE A DISCLOSURE OF HOW MUCH WE HAVE WHERE, SO FOR YOUR REFERENCE, THIS WOULD ALSO BE POSTED ON OUR WEBSITE.

SO YOU CAN GO IN AND FOR THE PUBLIC, SO THEY COULD SEE.

AND AGAIN, ON PAGE NUMBER FIVE, IT'S THE SAME INFORMATION PRESENTED, BUT IN A FORM OF CHARTS.

THE TOTAL PORTFOLIO, THE PORTFOLIO COMPARISON, AND THE PERFORMANCE AND THE DISTRIBUTION BY MATERIAL REACH.

THIS IS IN MILLIONS OF THE,

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THE GRAPHS THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT.

AND AGAIN, IT'S THE BOOK AND MARKET VALUE COMPARISON CANNOT REPETITIVE IT, BUT IT GIVES YOU A DIFFERENT SCENARIO OF HOW TO LOOK AT IT.

SO YOU FOR BETTER UNDERSTANDING.

LAST PAGE, UM, I'M SORRY, ON PAGE NUMBER SEVEN, CONTINUANCE ON PAGE NUMBER FOUR, YOU SEE THE BOOK MARKET VALUE MORE OF A IN, IN A LISTED FORMAT.

IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, PLEASE LET ME KNOW.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS? THANK YOU, STEPHANIE.

YES, STEPH, I HAVE A QUESTION ON THE FUND ALLOCATION BOOK AND MARKET VALUE.

I'VE NEVER SEEN THAT.

REFUSE COLLECTION HAS A MILLION DOLLARS.

WHAT IS THAT PAGE? WHAT PAGE ARE YOU LOOKING AT? PAGE SIX.

PAGE SIX.

WAS IT EIGHT? I'M SORRY.

I DON'T HAVE THE ADVANCED VERSION.

THAT'S, THAT'S THE NAME OF THE ACCOUNTS THAT WE GAVE THEM.

IT'S NOT THAT THAT'S THE BANK.

IT'S THE NAME OF THE ACCOUNTS THAT WE PUT.

SO THAT'S REFUSE COLLECTION.

THAT'S SOLID WASTE.

OH, OKAY.

WHATEVER WE COLLECTED FROM SOLID WASTE, IT GOES TO THAT.

AND THAT'S HOW WE CODE IT.

NAME IT.

OF COURSE, BEHIND THE SCENE AND ACCOUNTING, WE HAVE AN ACCOUNT NUMBER FOR IT.

BUT THAT'S THE, WE HAVE TO GIVE THEM A NAME FOR THE, FOR THEM TO PUT LIKE SAVINGS OR WE, WE NAME IT REFUSE COLLECTION.

JUST PUT THE ACCENT ON THE WALL.

LABEL.

WAS THERE A, UM, THERE WAS A CORONAVIRUS CARESS ITEM.

DIFFERENT FROM THE ORIGINAL CARES.

IT WAS A CARE.

SO AS ALL CDBG MONIES, THEY'RE IN A REIMBURSEMENT BASIS.

SO IF WE WANTED TO COLLECT THOSE MONIES, WE NEED TO SUBMIT EXPENSES THAT WE MADE THROUGH THAT WE, WE WERE AWARDED, YES.

BUT IT'S NOT ON OUR POWER.

SO THE MONEY STAYS WITH CDBG, AND THEN WHEN WE SUBMIT THE EXPENSES, THEN THAT'S WHEN WE START COLLECTING THE MONIES BACK.

JUST WANNA MAKE SURE WE DON'T FORGET ABOUT IT.

, THEY DID GIVE US THAT EXTENSION.

CORRECT? AND WE, WE ALMOST, WE LOST IT.

WE ALMOST LOST IT.

SO THANK YOU FOR THE LEGISLATURE TO ALLOW US TO CONTINUE TO HAVE THAT MONEY.

BUT WE, WE NEED TO LOOK TO DO SOMETHING WITH IT.

AND THE RATES ARE GETTING BETTER, SO THAT'S GOOD.

YES, THEY'RE STAYING GOOD.

SO THAT'S, THOSE ARE GOOD SIGNS.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMERS? THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, STEPH.

NEXT ITEM IS, UH, CONSENT AGENDA.

WE GOT ITEM, UH, ONE AND TWO.

I'M, I'M, I'M MISSING ANOTHER PRESENTATION THIS WEEK.

YOU GOT ANOTHER ONE? SORRY ABOUT THAT.

OH, PRESIDENT.

I'M SORRY.

THIS IS A FINANCIALS FOR THE MONTH OF SEPTEMBER, SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2023.

TOOK US A LITTLE BIT LONGER BECAUSE WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE RECEIVED ALL THE SALES TAX THAT WE WERE GONNA GET, UM, FOR THE YEAR.

SO THE TOTAL ASSETS FOR, UH, ENDING ON SEPTEMBER 20TH, 2320, UM, SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2023.

IT'S 17,357,628.

ON YOUR RIGHT HAND SIDE, YOU WILL SEE THE COMPARISON BETWEEN LAST YEAR AND THIS YEAR, DURING THE SAME TIME COMPARED TO 16 MILLION NINETY THREE HUNDRED AND TWENTY FOUR.

THAT'S ON PAGE NUMBER TWO.

AND THE BALANCE SHEET, FOLLOWED BY THAT ON PAGE NUMBER THREE, HAVE A TOTAL LIABILITIES OF 2 MILLION EIGHTY EIGHT HUNDRED AND TWENTY FOUR, COMPARED TO THE 1,728,220 AND 42 FOR LAST YEAR.

DURING THE SAME TIME, TOTAL LIABILITIES AND FUND BALANCE FOR THE MONTHS OF SEPTEMBER ENDING MONTH, SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2023, HAVE 17,357,628.

ON PAGE NUMBER FOUR, WE HAVE OUR REVENUE AND EXPENDITURES REPORT.

TOTAL REVENUES FOR THE MONTH.

TODAY, FOR THE MONTH OF SEPTEMBER, WE HAVE A MILLION 189,000 184.

AND THEN YOU SEE THE YEAR TODAY OF 15,596,000 WITH 24.

UM, I WANNA POINT IT OUT JUST BEFORE SOMEBODY BRINGS IT UP.

WE DO SEE A DIFFERENT, UH, QUITE A DIFFERENCE FROM REVENUE FROM LAST YEAR TO THIS YEAR.

THAT'S DUE TO A BOND.

SO WE HAVE TO, UM, RECOGNIZE THE BOND AS A REVENUE BECAUSE WE ARE GETTING THE MONEY.

447 COMPARED TO THE 3 MILLION SIX HUNDRED AND EIGHTEEN, TWO HUNDRED AND THIRTY TWO.

REGARDLESS.

SO THAT'S WHAT IT IS.

IT'S NOT THAT WE RECEIVE SOME ADDITIONAL MONEY SOMEWHERE.

WE, WE REQUEST FOR A BOND.

WE GOT IT.

AND IT'S, IT'S, IT'S GOTTA SHOW IN THE REVENUES, RIGHT? SO THAT'S WHAT IT IS FROM, I BELIEVE IT WAS 2022 BOND THAT PRIOR ADMINISTRATION HAD ACQUIRED.

PAGE NUMBER FIVE.

WE DO HAVE OUR TOTAL OF EXPENSES, 380, I'M SORRY, 3 MILLION, 1,000,576.

IF YOU SEE, THAT'S

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ALSO TO THE OTHER EXTREME, BECAUSE IN ACCOUNTING WISE, YOU HAVE TO PUT IT IN REVENUES, BUT ALSO AS AN EXPENSE.

'CAUSE YOU HAVE TO GIVE IT BACK 'CAUSE IT'S A BOND.

SO YOU DO SEE THAT DIFFERENCE, BUT IT'S ALL WASH OFF WITH REVENUE.

THANKS.

BUT IT NEEDS TO BE RECORDED.

THAT'S THE WAY, THAT'S WHY YOU SEE IT TOO WAY TOO DIFFERENT FROM LAST YEAR TO THIS YEAR.

THIS YEAR WE DID NOT DO ANY BOND FALLING FOR THAT FISCAL YEAR.

SO IT, IT WON'T SHOW HERE.

SO, YEAR TO DATE, ACTUAL, WE DO HAVE REVENUE.

SO WE'RE EXPENSES OF 950,477.

I, I SEE THAT OUR, OUR DEPARTMENTS ARE ACTUALLY SPENDING MONEY.

I MEAN, WE'VE GOT MORE GOING ON THE STREETS.

WE'VE GOT MORE GOING ON IN PARKS, YOU KNOW, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS.

RIGHT? NOW, ARE WE STILL WITHIN OUR BUDGETS? THAT'S FOR LAST YEAR.

AND YES, WE, WE WERE STILL IN, WITHIN OUR BUDGETS.

WE ARE IN A NEW FISCAL YEAR.

SO WE'RE STARTING FRESH IN OCTOBER, BUT YES, THEY WERE STILL IN, WITHIN THEIR BUDGETS.

AS A MATTER OF FACT, AS I MENTIONED, WE WERE REVENUES OF OUR EXPENSES.

SO, SO WE END UP, WE END UP GOOD THERE.

I'M, I'M GLAD TO SEE IT BEING SPENT, I GUESS PART OF THAT.

BECAUSE YOU'RE, YOU'RE SEEING THEM, THEY'RE DOING, DOING STUFF MOVING FORWARD.

FOLLOWED BY THAT.

ON PAGE NUMBER SIX, AND THIS IS WHAT I MEANT WHEN I SAID THAT IT HAD TO TAKE US A LITTLE BIT LONGER TO PRESENT 'EM.

IT'S, UH, WE HAVE THE SALES TAX RECONCILIATION ANALYSIS.

ON THE RIGHT SIDE, YOU WILL SEE THE PORTION THAT COMES STRAIGHT FROM THE CONTROLLER'S WEBSITE.

SO YOU CAN COMPARE AND THEN TO YOUR LEFT, YOU WILL SEE, OR, UM, SALES TAX COLLECTED FOR THE MONTH OF SEPTEMBER, WE HAD A TOTAL OF 647,206 WITH 25 CENTS OF WHAT, 75 STAYS WITH THE CITY.

AND THEN 25 GOES TO OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, UH, FOR A TOTAL FOR THE FISCAL YEAR OF 7,265,042 WITH 42 CENTS.

THAT'S WITH A DC AND THE CITY.

AND THAT'S IT FOR MY PRESENTATION.

IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, THAT I, I THANK YOU FOR THIS, BUT ONE OF THE THINGS I'D LIKE TO SEE GOING FORWARD, I KINDA LIKE LONGER VIEWS OF THINGS.

AND I ALSO AM LOOKING AT THIS FROM THE STANDPOINT OF BEING ABLE TO KIND OF MEASURE PERFORMANCE.

I WOULD LOVE TO BE ABLE TO SEE SALES TAX, PROPERTY TAX, THOSE KINDS OF THINGS WITH THREE OR FOUR YEARS OF HISTORY BEHIND GRAPHICALLY IS FINE.

UH, BUT SOMETHING THAT CAN KIND OF SHOW US THE TRENDS OF WHERE WE ARE SO WE CAN BEGIN TO START TO SET SOME GOALS FROM WHERE WE WANT TO GO, TO WHERE WE WANT TO GO.

WE COULD, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'LL BE, UM, A SITUATION WHERE YOU WANTED TO SEE IT IN A MONTHLY BASIS, OR WOULD YOU RATHER SEE IT IN A QUARTERLY BASIS SO YOU COULD SEE A TREND? BECAUSE IF I DO A YEARLY AND THEN WE'LL START DOING A MONTHLY, YOU WOULD NOT REALLY.

YEAH, NO.

SEE THE ACTUAL, I'M LOOKING AT ANNUAL FIGURES, ANNUALIZED FIGURES MORE THAN ANYTHING ELSE.

A PARTICULAR POINT.

SO ONCE, LIKE AT THE END OF EACH YEAR TO PROVIDE YOU WITH YEAH.

WHAT THE PROPERTY TAXES LOOK LIKE FROM THE LAST FIVE YEARS AND WHAT YEAH, WE CAN, WE CAN DEFINITELY DO THAT AND HAVE THAT INFORMATION.

PICTURE OF TRENDS IS WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR.

SURE.

MONTHLY IN A GRAPH FORM.

AND ALSO WHENEVER WE DO GET A A SCREEN, IT'LL BE EASIER FOR ME TO, INSTEAD OF SHOW YES.

SHOW, SHOW YOU MORE VISUAL, BUT YES, TOTALLY.

MAYOR, UH, COMMISSION.

GO BACK TO CONSENT AGENDA AS NUMBER ONE AND TWO.

ONE THING I'D LIKE TO ADD TO YOUR POINT, COMMISSIONER GOODMAN, UH, WHAT I WANTED TO ADD TO THE COMPREHENSIVE ANNUAL, UH, FINANCIAL REPORT IS KPIS.

SO WE'RE GONNA TIE THOSE BY DEPARTMENT, AND IT'LL BE DEPENDING ON THE SIZE OF THE DEPARTMENT, YOU KNOW, ANYWHERE FROM THREE TO FOUR TO FIVE.

UH, IT COULD BE THINGS LIKE FIRE DEPARTMENT, CALLS FOR SERVICE, UH, PUBLIC WORKS, MILES OF STREET PAVED, THINGS LIKE THAT, THAT YOU CAN ACTUALLY TIE TO THE BUDGET.

AND THEN SEE WHAT THOSE, THOSE TRENDS LOOK LIKE YEAR TO YEAR.

UH, AND ALSO TO SEE HOW THAT DEPARTMENT IT'S IS ACTUALLY DOING COMPARED TO ITSELF.

SO, AND YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO LOOK FORWARD TO AND ALSO SOMETHING TO GAUGE THE NEXT BUDGET FOR.

AND WHEN YOU'RE DOING THE BUDGET FOR THE FOLLOWING YEAR, YOU HAVE THOSE NUMBERS TO COMPARE AS WELL.

ANY MORE QUESTIONS? NO, NO QUESTIONS.

GO TO THE NEXT ONE.

[CONSENT AGENDA ITEM(S)]

UM, DO WE HAVE ANY, UH, ANY QUESTIONS? MOTION TO APPROVE CONSENT.

AGENDA ITEMS? I GOT, I GOT A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER GOODMAN, UH, TO APPROVE.

UH, DO I SAY, DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND.

BY COMMISSIONER MORALES.

NEXT ONE IS, UH, WE GET THE PUBLIC HEARING AND THIS BY MR. JOANNA MANAL.

[1. Public Hearing: To solicit input regarding a request to Rezone a property located on La Palma Boulevard, bearing a Legal Description of: 0.262 acre of land consisting of all of Lot Number 1, Save and Except the East 10 feet, of the Stolts Subdivision as recorded in Cabinet 1, Slot 1404-B of the Cameron County Map Records, Cameron County, Texas, from SF-2 “Duplex, Residential” to MF “MultiFamily Residential”. Applicant: Sandra E. Aguilar and Juan Aguilar, Jr.]

MAYOR, COMMISSIONERS.

UM, THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING FOR A REZONE FROM SSF TWO DUPLEX TO MULTI-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL.

UM, THEY HAD ORIGINALLY COME IN RECENTLY TO REZONE TO SSF TWO.

UM,

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BUT TURNS OUT THEY DIDN'T WANT JUST A DUPLEX.

THEY WANT TWO DUPLEXES.

AND ONCE YOU DO THAT, THAT IS MULTIFAMILY.

SO THEY NEED TO REZONE, UH, EVERYTHING IN THE AREA.

UH, RIGHT IN FRONT OF THIS LOT IS, UH, I BELIEVE, UM, AN APARTMENT COMPLEX.

SO THERE IS MULTIFAMILY IN THIS AREA.

DID THIS GO TO PLANNING AND ZONING? YES, SIR.

AND THEY DID, UH, RECOMMEND APPROVAL? THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING.

IT'S A PUBLIC HEARING IT UP TO ANYBODY.

YEP.

YOU GONNA OPEN IT OR? YES.

UH, AND I'LL OPEN IT UP TO THE FLOOR AT THE TIME.

IS, UH, 5 47? ANYBODY? FOUR OR AGAINST? I THINK WE'RE GOOD.

UM, MY NAME IS DALIA CIAS.

I LIVE AT ONE 40 GUILD DRIVE HERE IN SAN BENITO.

UM, WE ARE WORKING WITH MR. AND MRS. AGUILARA ON THIS PROJECT FOR HER.

UM, WE DID START THIS, UM, BACK IN APRIL.

WE WENT THROUGH THE WHOLE COMMISSION MEETING.

WE WERE APPROVED, BUT WE WERE ZONED INCORRECTLY.

SO WE ARE NOW TRYING TO GET IT ZONED THE PROPER WAY SO THAT WAY WE CAN CONTINUE, UM, TO CONTINUE THE PROJECT FOR THEM.

THERE ARE OTHER PUBLIC COMPLEXES THERE, AND I BELIEVE THERE'S A COUPLE OF DUPLEXES THERE AS WELL ALREADY.

SO WE ARE READY TO GO.

I THINK WE HAVE TURNED IN EVERYTHING THAT WE NEEDED TO FOR THE CITY.

SO WE ARE JUST WAITING FOR THE APPROVALS TO GET STARTED ON THE, TO THE GREYHOUND.

UM, THANK YOU FOR THE COMMENT.

UM, MS. JOANNA, IS WILLEM ROAD AN OPEN ROAD? I'VE SEEN IT AS A DIRT ROAD, BUT DO WE, IS IT, IT'S ON THE MAP.

IT'S ON GOOGLE MAPS.

IS IT OUR ACTUAL, IS IT AN ACTUAL ROAD THAT THE PLA I WOULD HAVE TO CHECK BECAUSE ARE, ARE THEY LOOKING TO GAIN ACCESS FROM THE BACK OR THE FRONT? FROM THE, FROM THE MAIN ROAD? THE MAIN ROAD FROM THE MAIN ROAD.

BUT I WOULD DEFINITELY HAVE TO CHECK ON THAT BECAUSE, UM, EVEN IF GOOGLE SHOWS IT AS A PUBLIC ROAD, SOMETIMES THAT IS NOT THE CASE.

I , I THINK THAT'S A PRIVATE ROAD.

WELL MAKE SURE, LIKE I SAID, I, I WOULD DEFINITELY DOUBLE CHECK.

BUT THEY WILL HAVE ACCESS FROM THE FRONT, NOT THE BACK.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? IT WAS PUBLIC HEARING, SO YEAH.

ANYBODY ELSE? NONE.

AND, UH, I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

THE TIME IS, UH, 5 49.

FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION.

[1. First Reading of Ordinance Number 2103-007-12-2023(Z) Amending Ordinance Number 2103-5, and any other amending ordinance, and codified in the code of ordinances in Chapter 10, Subdivision Regulation Article 10.02. Subdivision Ordinance, Section 10.02.012. Cost participation, adding Section C, Park Land Dedication, providing for a requirement for Park Land Dedication for a condition of subdivision plat approval for a property inside the city limits to be used for residential and multi-family uses; providing for park zones providing for payment sin lieu of land dedication under certain circumstances; providing refunds under certain circumstances; containing a severability clause; providing for publication and ordaining other matters related to the foregoing as provided by the City of San Benito and providing for an effective date.]

AND NUMBER ONE, WE'VE GOT, UH, MS. JOANNA MAD MONROE MAYOR COMMISSIONERS.

THIS IS A FIRST READING OF ORDINANCE NUMBER 2 1 0 3 DASH ZERO SEVEN DASH ONE TWO DASH 2 0 2 3 Z.

AMENDING ORDINANCE NUMBER 2 1 0 3 DASH FIVE AND ANOTHER.

AND ANY OTHER AMENDING ORDINANCE AND CODIFIED IN CODE OR ORDINANCES IN CHAPTER 10, SUBDIVISION REGULATION, ARTICLE 10.02.

UM, PARK LAND DEDICATION FEES.

SO CURRENTLY WE DO NOT HAVE AN ORDINANCE FOR PARK LAND FEES, AND WE ARE PROBABLY THE LAST CITY, UM, TO ACTUALLY REQUIRE PARKLAND FEES FROM THE DEVELOPERS.

SO MOVING FORWARD, UM, WE WOULD BE COLLECTING PER UNIT ON ANY DEVELOPMENT THAT CAME IN FOR SINGLE FAMILY OR MULTI-FAMILY.

UH, THERE'S SOME THINGS IN THERE THAT SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, IF THEY'RE GOING TO, UM, DEDICATE LAND AND IT ACTUALLY SAYS HOW MUCH LAND AND BUILD OUT, UM, A PARK, THEN THEY WOULD GET A REDUCTION IN THEIR FEES.

BUT, UM, THAT WOULD HAVE TO GO BEFORE COMMISSION AND THEY'D HAVE TO HAVE A SITE PLAN AND THEY'D HAVE TO MEET ALL THE CRITERIA, UH, THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

BUT FOR THE MOST PART, IT'S A FLAT FEE FOR PER UNIT.

HOW WAS THE FEE DETERMINED? WE WENT AHEAD AND LOOKED AT THE OTHER CITIES, AND WE PRETTY MUCH ALIGNED OURSELVES WITH EVERYBODY ELSE.

UH, SOME WERE MORE EXPENSIVE, SOME MOST, MOSTLY EVERYBODY WAS ABOUT THE SAME.

UM, WHICH IS WHAT, $600 PER UNIT? $600 PER UNIT? YES.

MORE OR LESS.

I'M ASSUMING THAT CHANGES.

DOES THAT CHANGE BASED ON SQUARE FOOTAGE UNITS OR ANYTHING? NO.

JUST 600 PER UNIT.

WHICH CAN BE MITIGATED BY WHATEVER THEY DO IN THEIR DEVELOPMENT.

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DEPENDING ON WHAT THEY WANNA DO.

UM, THERE'S OPTIONS FOR THEM, UH, TO EITHER DEDICATE LAND, DEPENDING ON HOW MUCH LAND THEY'RE DEVELOPING.

THERE'S AN OPTION TO DEDICATE LAND AND THEN ALSO BUILD OUT THE PARK.

IT WOULD HAVE TO COME BEFORE YOU ALL, AND THEN THEY WOULD DEDICATE THAT TO THE CITY, BUT ALREADY FINISHED AND BUILT OUT.

OBVIOUSLY, WE WANT TO CONTINUE TO ENCOURAGE DEVELOPMENT HERE IN TOWN.

SO DOES THIS BECOME SOMETHING THAT IS POTENTIALLY WAIVABLE TO ATTRACT DEVELOPERS? THIS IS ACTUALLY A VERY COMMON FEE THAT IS COLLECTED IN YEAH.

I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH THAT ONE.

IT'S, IT'S VERY COMMON.

THEY'RE, THEY'RE USED TO IT.

ANYWHERE THEY ELSE, ANYWHERE ELSE THEY DEVELOP.

AND FEE WISE, WE STAYED VERY, UM, VERY MUCH ALIGNED WITH EVERYBODY ELSE.

UM, THERE WAS SOME CITIES, LIKE I SAID, THAT WERE MORE EXPENSIVE, BUT WE TRIED TO STAY IN THE SAME, UH, GENERAL VICINITY AS EVERYBODY ELSE.

AND YOU SAID ONLY RESIDENTIAL AND MULTI-FAMILY? CORRECT.

WHAT ABOUT DUPLEXES? THAT, THAT WOULD, THAT WOULD BE MULTI-FAMILY.

AND COMMERCIAL? COMMERCIAL WE DO NOT, WELL.

WELL, UP NORTH SOME PEOPLE DO COLLECT ON COMMERCIAL, BUT DOWN IN THIS AREA, WE WOULD BE THE FIRST.

AND THAT'S KIND OF WHERE YOU GET INTO THE, TRYING TO ATTRACT DEVELOPMENT AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

IT'S, IT'S TO ENCOURAGE THEM TO PUT A PARK IN THEIR OWN SUBDIVISION IF THAT'S, IF THAT'S THE ROUTE THEY WANT TO GO.

THIS IS BASICALLY TO HELP THE CITY MAINTAIN AND GROW PARKS, PARKS IN THE AREA, IN THEIR AREAS.

AND I KNOW IF YOU LOOK AT THE PACKET, THERE'S DIFFERENT ZONES.

SO DEPENDING ON WHERE THAT SUBDIVISION IS COMING IN, WE HAVE TO GET WITH FINANCE TO CREATE ACCOUNTS FOR EACH ZONE AND THE MONEY GOES TO THAT ZONE AND CAN ONLY BE UTILIZED IN THAT ZONE.

NICE.

SO HAVE, DO WE HAVE ANY KIND OF CREATION OF THOSE ZONES YET? YES.

THE MAP IS ACTUALLY IN THERE.

IT WOULD GET APPROVED ALONG WITH THE ORDINANCE.

NO, IT'S ONLY, UH, IT'S ON.

LET'S ADD ON, TELL HIM.

[2. First Reading of Ordinance Number 2129-B-12-2023, amending Ordinance Number 2129-A, Code of Ordinances, Chapter VI, Absences and Leaves, Section 1, Holidays, and all other ordinances in conflict herewith and adopting an effective date.]

ITEM NUMBER TWO.

FIRST READING OF ORDINANCE NUMBER 2 1 29 DASH B DASH 12 DASH 2023 AMENDING.

ORDINANCE NUMBER 2029, A COURT OF ORDINANCES, CHAPTER SIX, ABSENCE AND LEAVES, SECTION ONE, HOLIDAYS AND OTHER ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT.

UH, WE'RE JUST ADOPTING THE, UH, NEXT YEAR'S, UH, HOLIDAY SCHEDULE.

MAYOR AND COMMISSIONERS STAFF WOULD RECOMMEND APPROVAL.

IS THIS IN LINE WITH, UM, THE HAND, THE POLICY, THE HANDBOOK, PERSONNEL HANDBOOK? YES, SIR.

WE'LL HAVE TO UPDATE IT, RIGHT? WE'RE UPDATING IT AS WE SPEAK.

THERE'S, THERE WAS INTERESTING STUFF IN THERE.

IN FACT, UH, WE'RE ACTUALLY, WE DON'T HAVE ALL THE HOLIDAYS IN THERE, SO WE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF, THERE'S SOME OTHER FEDERAL HOLIDAYS THAT WE DIDN'T ADD.

SO, WELL COMP OR WE'RE COMPETITIVE WITH OTHER CITIES.

ABSOLUTELY.

A HUNDRED PERCENT.

YES, SIR.

AND IT'S THE FIRST READING, SO IT'S ON THE FIRST READING.

NEXT ONE, SIR.

UH, WERE THESE THINGS NOT IN THERE BEFORE? NOPE.

NO, THEY ARE.

WE JUST HAVE TO ADOPT THEM EVERY YEAR.

THEY ADDED TWO MORE.

OH.

THEY HAVE TO ADOPT THEM.

AND WE ADDED TWO MORE.

I'M LOOKING AT THE, OKAY.

YES, SIR.

AND THIS IS FIRST

[3. First Reading of Ordinance Number 2252-F-001-12-2023(Z) to rezone a property located on La Palma Boulevard, bearing a Legal Description of: 0.262 acre of land consisting of all of Lot Number 1, Save and Except the East 10 feet, of the Stolts Subdivision as recorded in Cabinet 1, Slot 1404- B of the Cameron County Map Records, Cameron County, Texas, from SF2 “Duplex, Residential” to MF “Multi- Family Residential”. Applicant: Sandra E. Aguilar and Juan Aguilar, Jr.]

READING NUMBER THREE.

FIRST READING OF ORDINANCE NUMBER 2252 DASH F DASH 0 0 1 DASH 12 DASH 2023 Z TO REZO A PROPERTY LOCATED ON LA PALMA BOULEVARD, BEARING A LEGAL DESCRIPTION OF 0.262 ACRES OF LAND CONSISTING OF ALL OF LOT.

NUMBER ONE, SAVE AND ACCEPT THE EAST 10 FEET OF THE STOLT SUBDIVISION AS RECORDED IN CABINET ONE SLOT 1404 DASH B OF THE CAMERON COUNTY MAP RECORDS.

CAMERON COUNTY, TEXAS FROM SSF TWO, DUPLEX RESIDENTIAL TO MF, MULTI-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL.

AND THE APPLICANT IS SANDRA E AGUILA AND JUAN JR.

AGAIN, THIS IS IN FULFILLMENT OF THE PUBLIC HEARING, AND IT'S JUST FIRST READING.

I WANT TO KNOW IF WE, UM, IF WE CHARGED THEM THE FEE AGAIN, DID WE CHARGE 'EM TO APPLY AGAIN? WE DID, YEAH.

AND IT, YES, SIR.

DID WE DROP THE BALL ON THIS? OR THEY KIND OF JUST HAD A MISUNDERSTANDING OF WHAT THEY WERE ZONING DOES, DOES OUR DOCUMENTS NEED TO BE MORE CLEAR? PREDATES SO, UM, I BELIEVE WHAT HAPPENED WAS THAT THEY REQUESTED TO, TO, TO DO DUPLEX.

SO THEY REZONED TO THAT, BUT THEN THEY WANTED MORE THAN ONE DUPLEX, AND IT'S ONLY ONE LOT.

SO THAT BECOMES MULTIFAMILY.

AND OF COURSE, AT THAT TIME, I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAD, UH, SITE PLAN OR PLAN THAT THEY HAD SHOWN US AT THE TIME.

IT WAS, I DON'T, IT

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WAS A WHILE BACK.

SO IT WAS A CHANGE IN THEIR PLAN.

, THEY, THEY ORIGINALLY WANTED ORIGINALLY, I DON'T KNOW IF THEY DISCLOSED THE SITE PLAN.

UM, AND THEY WEREN'T AWARE THAT YES, IT'S DUPLEX, BUT IT'S MORE THAN ONE ON ONE LOT.

WHAT, WHAT CAN WE DO TO, LIKE, LET'S TRY TO LOOK AT HOW WE CAN PREVENT THIS.

WE'RE GONNA UPDATE OUR STANDARDS MANUAL, UH, MEI PRO TEM.

AND A LOT OF THIS WILL BE INCLUDED IN THE STANDARDS MANUAL.

AND ESPECIALLY SOME OF THESE ITEMS THAT CAN GET A LITTLE TRICKY BECAUSE IT'S ONLY, IT'S ONLY ONE LOT.

THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO REPL.

NO, THEY ALREADY DID.

ALREADY DID.

SO THERE'S TWO LOTS NOW.

NO.

SO IT'S ONE LOT.

THE ONLY REASON THEY HAD TO REPL IS BECAUSE, UM, THEIR NEIGHBOR WAS ENCROACHING INTO THEIR LOT.

OH MY GOD.

AND THEY WERE KIND ENOUGH TO GIVE THEM THAT LAND.

SO IT WASN'T, WASN'T A LARGE ENCROACHMENT.

IT SAID 10 FEET.

WELL, 10 FEET IS STILL 10 FEET.

SO THEY GAVE, DECIDED TO GO AHEAD AND GIVE IT TO THEM.

SO THEY HAD TO REPL TO MAKE IT A ILLEGAL LOT.

WAS THEIR, THEIR HOUSE WAS ON THERE OR IT WAS JUST THE FENCE? NO, IT WAS JUST, IT WAS JUST THE FENCE OR, OH, MAN, THAT'S NICE.

10 FEET BY 160, 1600 SQUARE FEET.

FIRST READING OF ORDINANCE NUMBER NUMBER FOUR.

GOOD.

UM, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? GOOD NEIGHBORS? THAT'S WHY WE GET PERMITS FOR FENCES, , ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? NO, NO.

FRED, NUMBER FOUR.

[4. First Reading of Ordinance Number 2409-H-B Amending Ordinance No. 2490-HA as Codified in the City's Code of Ordinances in Chapter 13.03.006 deposits and fees.]

I'M SORRY.

FIRST READING OF ORDINANCE NUMBER 24 0 9 DASH HB AMENDING.

ORDINANCE NUMBER 24 90 DASH H DASH A AS CODIFIED IN THE CITY'S CODE OF ORDINANCES IN CHAPTER 13.0.

3.06.

DEPOSITS AND FEES.

IT IS THE FIRST READING.

GOOD AFTERNOON.

STEPHANIE EZ, FINANCE DIRECTOR FOR THE RECORD, THIS IS THE FIRST READING OF ORDINANCE, UM, NUMBER 24 0 4 HB.

UM, IT'S AMENDING ORDINANCE 0 24 0 4 HA.

UH, WHAT WE'RE DOING ON THIS, WE'RE UPGRADING SOME OF THE, SOME OF THE FEES THAT WE WERE CHARGING.

SO I'M GONNA WALK YOU THROUGH, SINCE THE REPLACING PART.

THE FIRST TWO PAGES ARE WHAT? IT'S ACTUALLY IN THE ORDINANCE AS IS.

AND THEN FOLLOWED BY THAT, WE ADDED THE TWO LINES.

THAT AND LETTER A WATER SERVICE DEPOSITS.

WE ORDER THE TWO ADDITIONAL LINES TO THE TABLE THAT SAYS COMMERCIAL AND MULTI-UNIT.

PRIOR THAT WE WERE CHARGING THE SET AMOUNTS, HOWEVER, WE DIDN'T HAVE A DISCLOSED AN ORDINANCE.

SO IT LIVE SOME ROOM FOR MISUNDERSTANDING FROM FORTUNATELY OUR CITIZENS.

SO NOW IT'S IN THE ORDINANCE.

SO THEY CAN, WE CAN REFER BACK TO THAT OTHER THAN, OR ONLY, OR LIKE APPLICATIONS AND WHERE WE HAD OR SET UP FEES.

SO THEY WERE PAYING FOR THAT ALREADY.

IT'S JUST NOT, IT WAS NOT INCLUDED THERE.

THE REST OF IT STAYS THE SAME UNTIL LETTER D.

WE DID INCREASE A LITTLE BIT OF WATER METER FEES BECAUSE, UH, WE WERE CHARGING THEM NOT EVEN AT COST WHAT WE WERE PAYING FOR THEM.

SO WE INCREASED THE METER FEES IF TO A POINT WHERE WE ARE ABLE TO PAY FOR THE, THE METERS WE'RE BUYING FOR, FOR THE HOMES.

WE'RE BEING SPECIFIC ON WHEN DEVELOPERS OR WHOEVER MAKES A TAP NEEDS TO PAY FOR THAT TAP.

WE DID, BASED ON THE SIZE OF THE METER AND ALSO BASED ON WHO WOULD USE THOSE TYPE OF METERS.

SO THREE FOURS WILL BE TYPICALLY USED BY A RESIDENT, A REGULAR HOME, AND THEN, AND ONE INCH FOR SMALL BUSINESSES.

AND THEN MOVING FORWARD, THEN WE INCREASE IT A LITTLE BIT.

'CAUSE IT'LL BE FROM BIGGER BUSINESSES THAT WILL NEED THAT, FOLLOWED BY THAT.

ON NUMBER TWO, WHERE IT SAYS OTHER FEES, WE DID UPGRADE A LITTLE BIT MORE, OR TRAVELING TEMPORARY, UH, WATER METER TORCH.

UM, THE DEPOSIT STAYED THE SAME.

HOWEVER, THE METER FEE INCREASED A LITTLE BIT FOR THE SAME PURPOSE.

THE COST OF THE METER NEEDED TO BE TAKEN CARE OF.

AND THE RENTAL FEE AS WELL, IT USED TO BE FIVE, NOW IT'S $10 PER DAY.

SO WE ALSO ADDED THE PORTION ON LETTER C.

UM, IT'S STAYED THE SAME.

IT'S MAINLY THE SAME.

IT'S JUST THAT WE ADDED THE WORD AND OTHERS JUST 'CAUSE THERE'S OTHER CIRCUMSTANCES THAT LEAD TO A NON-SUFFICIENT FUND CHECK.

AND IT'S STILL THE SAME.

WE DON'T MAKE UP THAT AMOUNT.

THAT'S WHAT WE GET CHARGED FOR.

NSFS THEN CONTINUE STAYING THE SAME AS THE WAY IT WAS UP TO LETTER E ON THIS ONE.

WHAT WE DID HERE, WE BE, WE'RE BEING A LITTLE BIT MORE CLEAR ON WHEN IS THE TAP, UH, FEE NEED TO BE PAID, ESPECIALLY THE LAST SENTENCE.

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WHEN IN THE PAST IT WAS A LITTLE BIT MORE VAGUE OR, OR WHO WOULD MAKE IT AND WHO WOULD PAY IT.

AND THEN AT WHAT TIME, DURING WHAT TIME OF THE PROCESS.

ALSO, UH, WE ORDER NUMBER TWO, WHICH IS THE BORING PERMIT.

WE DIDN'T HAVE A, WE DIDN'T REQUEST FOR THEM TO HAVE A BORING PERMIT.

NOW WE DO.

AND IT NEEDS TO BE INSPECTED ALSO BY US THAT EVERYTHING IS FINE WITH WHAT THEY'RE GONNA DO BEFORE THEY ACTUALLY GO AND WEAR ONE OF OUR LINES THAT WASN'T THERE BEFORE.

SO WE'RE TRYING TO BE A LITTLE BIT MORE SPECIFIC OF ON THE REQUIREMENTS.

NUMBER THREE, WE WERE REQUESTING OUR CITIZENS TO AUTO CUT OFF VALVE, HOWEVER, IT WAS NOT AN ORDINANCE.

SO WHAT WE'RE DOING IS WE'RE PUTTING IT THERE FOR IT TO LEAD TO MORE OF AN UNDERSTANDING ON WHY ARE WE ASKING IT.

AND IT'S THIS SPECIFIC, UH, NUMBER, IT'S FOR THE, FOR THEIR SAFETINESS.

SO IF THEY GET A WATER LEAK OR WHATEVER, THEY CAN CLOSE THEIR, THEIR SIDE OF IT.

UM, AND THEN WE ADD AN ADDITIONAL COMMENT.

ANY TAB MADE ON A LINE LINE LARGER THAN 12 INCHES, SHAW REQUIRED A PERMIT AND MUST COMPLY WITH THE CITY OF SAN DIEGO STANDARDS.

SO THEY NEED TO MAKE ACCOMMODATIONS.

SO WE'RE GONNA MAKE THAT BIG OF A LINE, WHICH IS REALLY RARE, BUT WE'RE DOING THAT.

ALSO ON THE FOLLOWING TABLE, WE ADDED, WE ADDED THE NEW TAP SECTION, WHICH IS THE SAME THAT IT WAS BEFORE.

BUT THEN WE ALSO ADDED THE SERVICE CONNECTION FOR AN EXISTING WATER TAP THAT WE WERE NOT CHARGING IN THE PAST.

AND MOST EVERY, EVERY CITY DO THAT JUST, WE WERE, WE WERE NOT DOING IT HERE.

AND NOW WE'RE BEING A LITTLE BIT, WE'RE TRYING TO, WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE ACCOMMODATIONS TO THE ORDINANCE THE WAY IT MAKES SENSE.

UM, WE ALSO ADDED THOSE TWO POINTS, UM, WHICH IS JUST ADDITION TO WHAT THE TABLE DISCLOSED OR WHAT IT'LL BE ENTITLED BASED ON THE FEES THAT WE'RE, THAT WE'RE PUTTING IN THE TABLE.

AND THAT'S, UM, AND THEN ON THE BOTTOM PORTION OF IT, IT'S BASICALLY THE SAME THING, BUT THE COSTS ARE ASSOCIATED IF THE ADDRESS OR IF THE TAP, IT'S GONNA BE MADE OUTSIDE OF CITY LIMITS.

SO, BUT IT'S, IT'S PRETTY MUCH THE SAME.

THE FEES GO A LITTLE BIT HIGHER THAN WHAT IT WOULD BE INSIDE CITY LIMITS FOR OUTSIDE CITY LIMITS.

BUT IT'S PRETTY MUCH THE SAME INFORMATION.

IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, THIS IS THE FIRST READING FOR THIS ORDINANCE.

ANY QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS? STEP ON THE, THE CUTOFF VALVE.

IS THAT 18 INCHES FROM 18 FEET? THAT'S 18 INCHES.

INCHES FROM THE WATER METER.

WHICH IS, BECAUSE THEN IF IT'S, IF IT'S UNDER, UNDER PROPERTY, A FOOT AND A HALF MM-HMM.

SO LIKE MINE SITS IN THE CITY'S RIGHT AWAY.

BUT MY CUTOFF VALVE IS MOST OF THE TIME, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S CHANGED, IT'S USUALLY ATTACHED TO THE OUTSIDE WALL OF ONE OF THE, ONE OF THE PERIMETER WALLS.

AND THAT'S LIKE 40 FEET AWAY.

BUT IT'S STILL ACCESSIBLE FOR, UM, IT'S NOT RIGHT NEXT TO THE METER, BUT IT'S, MOST OF THE TIME IT'S ON ONE OF THE OUTSIDE PERIMETER WALLS.

WHEREVER YOUR MAIN LINE COMES INTO YOUR HOUSE, THAT'S WHERE YOUR CUTOFF VALVE IS.

WELL, THIS IS FOR PEOPLE THAT ARE BARELY PUTTING IT.

FROM YOUR METER TO THE HOME AND YOU SHUT IT OFF AT THE HOME, BUT THAT WATER'S STILL LEAKING OUT.

FOR, IT'S NOT, WE'RE NOT GONNA MAKE YOU CHANGE SHORTS.

BUT MOVING FORWARD, WE WANT THE PEOPLE THAT CONNECT THE SERVICE TO HAVE THE BALL RIGHT AWAY.

SO FOR EASY ACCESS FOR OR METER READERS OR FOR WHOEVER GOES AND INSPECT YOUR HOME, YOU, I, I DON'T KNOW IF I WOULD LIKE IT PERSONALLY.

I DON'T KNOW IF THAT IS THAT, IS THAT THE STANDARD NOW IN OTHER CITIES? I GUESS IS JOANNA, WAS JOANNA PART OF THIS? YES.

WOULD YOU WANT IT, LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE, I SAW DOWNTOWN, THE GUY WAS RENOVATING THE CORNER BUILDING.

I THINK HE HAD A BACKFLOW PREVENTION DEVICE OR SOMETHING.

SUPER SKINNY WATERLINE.

SOMEONE'S GONNA GO BY AND JUST KICK IT AND DESTROY THAT GUY.

SO THE REASON, THE REASON WE HAVE IT THAT CLOSE TO THE METER IS BECAUSE IF YOU HAVE YOUR CUTOFF VALVE AT THE BUILDING, BUT THERE'S A LEAK ANYWHERE IN BETWEEN THE, YOU'RE STILL GONNA BE PAYING A WATER BILL.

THAT'S OUTRAGEOUS BECAUSE THE LEAK IS ACTUALLY ANYWHERE INSIDE YOUR PROPERTY.

SO IF YOU HAVE IT RIGHT AT THE METER, YOU AS AN OWNER CAN CUT OFF THE WATER AND FIGURE OUT EXACTLY WHERE YOUR LEAK IS.

IF IT'S AT THE HOUSE, BUT IT'S IN YOUR YARD SOMEWHERE, YOU'RE, YOU'RE, THERE'S NO WAY FOR YOU TO CUT IT OFF.

SO THE CUTOFF VALVE IS GONNA BE OUTSIDE OF THE GROUND OR UNDERGROUND, UNDER GROUND.

HOW DOES THAT LOOK LIKE NOW? IT'S USUALLY, UM, RIGHT BY THE METER AND IT KIND OF STICKS OUT WELL, DEPENDING ON HOW, HOW LONG IT'S BEEN THERE.

SOMETIMES IT GETS COVERED UP.

BUT IS, IS THAT THE WAY THE NEW HOMES ARE BEING BUILT? YES.

SO BY ORDINANCE WE HAVE THE REQUIREMENT FOR A CUTOFF VALVE.

THE PROBLEM IS WE DIDN'T HAVE A LOCATION AND THE BEST LOCATION FOR THE RESIDENT IS BY THE METER.

BECAUSE LIKE I SAID, YOU COULD HAVE A LEAK

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SO YOUR BILL IS STILL GONNA BE, UM, VERY HIGH.

AND THAT'S THE PROBLEM THAT WE SEE IS THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY CALL IN AND THEY'RE SAYING, HEY, I HAVE A LEAK.

MY WATER BILL WENT UP SUPER HIGH.

AT LEAST IF YOU HAVE A CUTOFF VALVE, YOU CAN SHUT THAT OFF AND FIGURE OUT WHERE THE LEAK IS AND GET A PLUMBER OUT THERE TO FIX IT.

AND YOU WON'T HAVE THAT REALLY HIGH BILL ON TOP OF A PLUMBER'S.

BUT THERE'S STILL A SHUTOFF VALVE AT THE METER ITSELF, ISN'T THERE? THERE'S A, EVERYBODY HAS A T NOWADAYS.

IF YOU HAVE A GRANDMA, YOU HAVE A T SO YOU EVER USE THAT TOOL? SO THE YEAH, THAT'S ON THE, ON THE PRIVATE SIDE.

I ALMOST GOT, SO OUR GUYS CAN GO OUT THERE AND SHUT OFF WATER.

THE PROBLEM IS, IS THAT, UM, THE RESIDENT IS NOT ALLOWED TO TAMPER WITH THE METER.

'CAUSE WITH THE METER THEY COULD POSSIBLY BREAK IT.

AND SOME OF OUR, SOME OF OUR OLDER METERS, THEY WILL BREAK.

AND THEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT DAMAGES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO IT'S BEST TO HAVE YOUR OWN, YOUR OWN COLOR.

THE MAIN, THE MAIN THING IS, UH, COMMISSIONER WAS, UH, WAS, UH, WHAT WAS HAPPENING IS THAT THE, LIKE, UH, MY METER WAS, UH, JUST RECENTLY CHANGED A COUPLE MONTHS AGO.

SO THEY ADDED THAT THE WATER CUT OFF, YOU GET THE METER, YOU GET THE COMING FROM THE CITY METER AND THEN GO INTO, INTO MY HOME.

WELL, THEY ADDED THE, UH, CUTOFF VALVE RIGHT THERE, RIGHT OUT JUST BY THE METER AFTER.

YEAH, BY THE METER.

RIGHT THERE.

RIGHT AFTER IT.

SO THAT WAY, UH, NOBODY TAMPERS WITH THE CITY.

UH, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, THEY DON'T TOUCH YOUR INSTRUMENT SIDE.

THEY COULD JUST DO THEIR, AND THAT, THAT WAS THE WHOLE DEAL THAT THE PEOPLE WERE, WERE TAPPING INTO THE CITY AND THEY WERE TRYING TO CLOSE IT AND THEY WOULD BREAK IT.

SO NOW YOU GOT THE WHOLE THING, YOU KNOW, UH, MORE WATER DAMAGE THAT THE, BUT IN THE, IN THE PAST ALSO TO ADD TO THAT, SO WHENEVER YOU GET GET DISCONNECTED SERVICES, YOU COULD GO AND SHUT OFF YOUR VALVE.

AND THEN IF SOME, 'CAUSE SOMETIMES THIS HAPPENS, SO THE RESIDENT IS NOT THERE, AND THEY GO AND THEN GET CONNECTED.

AND IF THEY LEFT SOMETHING OPEN, WE GO CONNECT THE SERVICES.

UM, YOU CAN LEAVE YOUR VALVE CLOSED AND THEN WHENEVER YOU COME BACK HOME, YOU OPEN AND THEN YOU MAKE SURE YOU'RE NOT LEAKING IT.

THERE'S NO LEAKING INSIDE YOUR HOUSE.

SO THAT ALSO HELPS THE CITIZEN BE AWARE THAT, OH, EVERYTHING IS CLOSED.

'CAUSE MY VALVE IS CLOSED.

AND THEN IF THEY COME AND CONNECT THE SERVICES, NOTHING IS GONNA BE LEAKING.

JUST, I HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION.

IS IT STILL A FIRE STANDARD THAT ONE WATER SPIGOT HAS TO BE ALWAYS LIVE REGARDLESS OF A CUTOFF? THAT'S A MORE A QUESTION FROM CHIEF.

NO.

UH, MY FATHER-IN-LAW'S A PLUMBER AND HE'S AS, THERE'S ALWAYS ONE LIVE SPIGOT, EVEN IF IT'S TURNED OFF.

AND THEY DID THAT FOR FIRE REASONS.

I, I GUESS IN THE OLD DAYS.

SO THAT WE HAVE A LOT OF OLD RESIDENTS.

YOU'RE JUST TRYING TO STANDARDIZE THE PROCESS.

, IT'S, I'M JUST BEING NEXT SPECIFIC.

I KNOW IT'S ON THE, ONE OF THE FOUR PERIMETERS OF THE WALL.

BUT YOU'RE TRYING TO STANDARDIZE IT.

FOR MOVING FORWARD.

NEW ADDRESSES TO THANK YOU FOR UPDATING ALL OF THIS STUFF.

THIS IS REALLY GOOD.

I'M GLAD TO SEE IT.

AND IT WAS, IT WAS NOT A ONE PERSON DEAL.

UH, MR. VO WAS PART OF A JOANNA AND THE CMM, SO WE WERE ALL WORK TOGETHER TOO.

I HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION THOUGH.

UH, BACKFLOW.

BACKFLOW IS THAT PART OF THIS AS WELL? THAT'S THE, THE VALVE FALLS INTO THE BACKFLOW.

LIKE THAT'S ONE PART OF THE REQUIREMENTS.

WE DO HAVE OUR BACKFLOW, UH, PERSON IN CHARGE OF MAKING IN INSPECTIONS.

SO EVERY TIME WE CONNECT THE SERVICE, WE SEND BACKFLOW INSPECTOR OR UTILITIES INSPECTOR TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THAT.

AND THEN IF THEY'RE NOT POST, THEY DON'T PASS THE, IN THE, THE INSPECTION.

AND THEN THEY HAVE TO BE IN COMPLIANCE IN ORDER FOR US TO CONNECT THEIR SERVICES.

AND THOSE ARE ANNUALIZED INSPECTION FEES THAT RIGHT? RIGHT.

I KNOW MINE'S PRETTY EXPENSIVE.

I GOT A COUPLE OF THEM.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I I HAVE ANOTHER ONE.

THE SPRINKLERS, UH, SOMEONE HAS A SPRINKLER SYSTEM.

THEY'RE REQUIRED TO GET ANOTHER METER.

DO THEY PAY A BASE FEE OR IS IT ONLY FOR, IT'S FOR ONLY FOR WATER CONSUMPTION.

WE, WE SUGGEST FOR YOU TO GET AN ADDITIONAL METER BECAUSE YOUR REGULAR METER WILL HAVE SWITCH AND WATER.

SO IF YOU GET AN ADDITIONAL METER ONLY FOR THAT PARTICULAR, IT WON'T ONLY BE WASTING WATER.

IF I DON'T USE MY SPRINKLER SYSTEM AT ALL FOR THAT MONTH, WILL I GET A BILL? YES.

'CAUSE THERE'S A STANDARD FEE.

SO THAT'S, THAT'S MY, THAT'S MY, THAT'S WHAT SOME OF THE RESIDENTS CONCERN, RIGHT? THEY HAVEN'T USED A DROP OF SPRINKLE.

THE, THE POINT WAS TO GET A SPRINKLER METER SYSTEM, RIGHT.

IT FALLS INTO THE SAME THING.

ZERO TO 2000, YOU PAY THE MINIMUM.

ON WATER RATE ZERO DUE TO THOUSAND.

I THINK YOU SHOULD LOOK AT MAYBE LOWERING THAT.

THAT'S MORE TOWARDS THE, THE WATER RATES I'M PAYING FOR SIDE OF, I TRIED TO SAVE WATER BY GETTING THAT NEW METER, BUT RATHER IF REGARDLESS IF I WATER MY GRASS OR NOT, I'M GONNA GET CHARGED.

YOU'LL BE SURPRISED WITH PEOPLE WHO SAY THEY HAVING WATER, THE GRASS AND IT'S GREEN .

WELL, YEAH.

I JUST DON'T LIKE TO PAY FOR SOMETHING.

I'M NOT NO.

THAT, THAT'S NOT USING.

IT'S UNDERSTANDABLE.

THAT'S ON ANOTHER SECTION OF THE ORDINANCE, WHICH WE MIGHT, WE MIGHT TAKE A LOOK AT THAT AS WELL.

BUT THAT'S WHAT THE CONCERN I HAVE WITH PEOPLE.

THEY TELL ME I GOTTA, I THOUGHT I WAS GONNA SAVE WATER.

I GOT ANOTHER METER AND THEY'RE PAYING THE BA THE MINIMUM AND I DIDN'T WATER MY GRASS AT ALL.

SO WHAT WAS THE POINT, SIR? ZERO DUE TO, I MEAN, THAT'S US PER ORDINANCE

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THAT'S NOT, I MINIMUM IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT PART OF THE, OF THIS ORDINANCE.

IT THAT'LL BE ON THE WATER RATES.

SOMETHING ELSE TO LOOK AT.

IT'S, IT'S MAYOR AND COMMISSIONERS.

IT'S, WE'VE DONE THEM.

WELL, I'D DONE THE MATH BEFORE AND MOST OF THE TIME, DEPENDING ON THE SIZE OF THE TAP, USUALLY THREE QUARTER OR, OR ONE INCH, FIVE EIGHTHS OR WHATEVER.

UH, THE MATH DOESN'T WORK OUT , SO IT'S USUALLY BETTER JUST KEEP ONE METER AND JUST UPSIZE YOUR METER TO GO FROM A THREE QUARTERS TO SAY A ONE INCH OR SOMETHING.

UH, BECAUSE TIMES LIKE THIS, YOU'RE PAYING FOR TWO, TWO SEPARATE FEES.

SO THAT'S WHY IT'S KIND OF, YEAH, USUALLY YOU CAN COUNSEL THE PEOPLE THAT PROBABLY THE MATH'S NOT GONNA WORK, BUT ESPECIALLY IN DROUGHT, SO.

ITEM FIVE FIRST READING AND ORDINANCE NUMBER 2 6 0 1 DASH B DASH 12 DASH 22 3 Z AMENDING THE RUSSELL RANCH PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT STANDARDS INCORPORATED AS EXHIBIT B AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

NO QUESTIONS? NO QUESTIONS? NOPE.

[5. First Reading of Ordinance Number 2601-B-12-2023(Z) amending the Russell Ranch Planned Development District Standards Incorporated as Exhibit "B" and providing an effective date.]

KE JOANNA, UM, THIS IS ACTUALLY A ORDINANCE THAT WAS DRAWN UP WHEN RUSSELL RANCH WAS FIRST, UH, DONE AND IT WAS AMENDED, I BELIEVE, ONCE OR TWICE.

UM, BUT IN THE ORDINANCE IT TALKS ABOUT THE SIDEWALKS AND THAT IF BY A CERTAIN DATE THAT THOSE SIDEWALKS, THE ALL LOTS HAVE BEEN SOLD AND THEY'D HAD TO HAVE BEEN BUILT OUT.

IF THEY HAVEN'T BEEN BUILT OUT, THEN THE DEVELOPER OR THE WHOEVER OWNS THOSE LOTS WILL HAVE TO, BEFORE THAT DATE, GO AHEAD AND, UH, PUT IN ALL THE SIDEWALKS EVEN IF THERE'S NO HOMES.

UM, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS, UH, WE PREFER NOT TO HAVE THE ACTUAL SIDEWALK THERE BECAUSE WHEN THEY DO COME IN FOR CONSTRUCTION TO BUILD THOSE HOMES, UM, THERE'S A VERY, VERY HIGH CHANCE THAT THOSE SIDEWALKS ARE GONNA GET, UM, DESTROYED.

SO WE'RE GOING BACK AND WE'RE AMENDING IT FOR RUSSELL RANCH BECAUSE, UH, THAT DEADLINE IS COMING UP IN THIS, THIS NEXT YEAR.

AND, UH, I DID PUT IN THERE THAT THEY WOULD HAVE TO BUILD OUT THE RAMPS AND LANDINGS.

HOWEVER, THEY TOLD ME THAT THEY HAD ALREADY DONE IT AHEAD OF TIME BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T WANNA HAVE ANY ISSUES, UH, WITH THE BUILDERS.

SO CURRENTLY THE RAMPS, UH, FOR HANDICAP AND ALL THAT IS ALREADY IN PLACE.

BUT I STILL PUT IT IN THERE JUST SO THAT WE WOULD HAVE IT IN WRITING.

AND I'M OKAY WITH IT, JONAH.

BUT THE THING IS, IS LIKE ANYTHING ELSE, UH, THERE ARE SOME, THERE'S GONNA BE SOME LOTS THAT'S NOT GONNA BE SOLD.

AND YOU'RE GONNA HAVE SIDEWALK GRASS.

, SIDEWALK, GRASS, LIKE IT'S BEEN ON SOME OF THE SUBDIVISIONS.

SO WE NEED TO HAVE A, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING CONSISTENT THAT THE, THE, THE FAMILIES OR THE PEOPLE THAT ARE WALKING ON THOSE, UH, UH, SIDEWALKS ARE GONNA COME AFTER US.

SO THERE'S GOTTA BE SOMETHING THAT WE CAN HELP 'EM OUT WITH.

I'M OKAY WITH IT.

THAT, YEAH, IT'S WHY DO WE WANNA BUILD THEM? AND THEN TWO MONTHS LATER, YOU KNOW, THE, THE TRUCKS ARE GONNA GO ON IT AND BREAK 'EM AND THEN, UH, IT'S HIS COST.

WELL, I UNDERSTAND IT, BUT WE NEED TO LOOK AT THE OTHER WAY.

ALS ALSO, IF IT TAKES ONE OR TWO YEARS, THEN NOBODY BUILDS.

WELL, IT'S GONNA BE GRASS SO THAT THERE'LL BE SOMETHING.

CITY MANAGER HAD BROUGHT THAT UP, SO I DO HAVE AN IDEA ABOUT THAT FOR THIS UPCOMING, UM, PROJECTS.

ANY QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS? NO.

AND IT'S THE FIRST READING.

WE'LL, OKAY.

FIRST READING.

SIX, ACTION ITEM CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO APPROVE THE PURCHASE OF A CAN-AM DEFENDER MAX DPS FROM IP AND F AND T VALLEY MOTORSPORTS, LLC FOR THE TOTAL AMOUNT OF $23,046 AND 68 CENTS.

ITEM NUMBER

[6. Consideration and possible action to approve the purchase of a CAN-AM 8RPB Defender Max DPS from F&T Valley Motor Sports LLC for the total amount of $23,046.68]

CHIEF PERELLA, GOOD EVENING MAYOR, MAYOR PRO TIM AND COMMISSIONERS POLICE CHIEF MA PERELLA FOR THE RECORD, FOR APPROXIMATELY THE LAST THREE YEARS, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT HAS BORROWED SIDE BYSIDE UTILITY VEHICLES FOR EVERY LARGE SCALE CITY EVENT.

OR WE NEED TO SEARCH AREAS WHERE YOU CAN'T DRIVE A POLICE UNIT THROUGH CAMERON COUNTY.

EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT HAS BEEN EXTREMELY HELPFUL IN ALLOWING US TO USE THEIR EQUIPMENT.

HOWEVER, I FEEL THE, HOWEVER I FEEL THAT GIVEN THE NEED FOR THEM, WE SHOULD BE BEGIN PURCHASING OUR OWN UTILITY VEHICLES.

I OBTAINED THREE QUOTES WITH THE LOWEST QUOTE COMING, COMING IN FROM F AND T VALLEY MOTORSPORTS.

THE FUNDS FROM THIS PURCHASE WILL COME FROM THE ASSET FORFEITURE ACCOUNT.

STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL AND I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.

CAN I USE IT? JUST ONE CHIEF , I THOUGHT WE'D AGREED ON TWO.

UH, WE'RE GONNA DO ONE, ONE FOR NOW.

SORRY.

THE GUY, I COULDN'T GET THE, THE QUOTES IN ON TIME.

AND FOR THE SECOND ONE AS COMPARABLE ONES AS FAR AS, UH, THE MACHINES.

'CAUSE THIS ONE IS, IS ONE OF THE BIGGER MACHINES.

THE OTHER ONE I WANTED TO SHOOT FOR A SMALLER ONE.

OH, OKAY.

SO JUST CHECKING.

I'LL BE, I'LL BE BACK.

TRYING TO GET YOU ANOTHER ONE.

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I CAN USE AS LONG AS HE CONTINUES TO PUT ON THE SUIT.

YEAH, OF COURSE.

SEE, WHERE'S THE, IT BEING FUNDED FROM? FROM THE ASSET FORFEITURE ACCOUNT.

IT'S YOUR MONEY MOTION.

I APPROVE.

SECOND BY COMMISSIONER MORALES.

I GOT, UH, I GOT A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER, UH, MAYOR GARVAN.

SO WE HAVE ITEM SEVEN AND EIGHT.

AND CHIEF, THANKS FOR SHOPPING LOCAL.

YES, .

THANKS FOR LETTING ME BORROW IT TOO.

ALRIGHT,

[Items 7 & 8]

THE, UM, WE HAVE TO ON TABLE ONE.

WELL, UM, DO YOU WANT ON TABLE ONE? WE COULD, WE NEED TO INCLUDE BOTH OF 'EM AND, UH, MR. A**L IS GONNA EXPLAIN WHY.

BUT, UH, THEY'RE THE, UH, COMPACT EXCAVATORS THAT WERE, THAT WE BROUGHT UP LAST TIME.

WE DID GET A, AN ADDITIONAL COAT OKAY.

FROM, UH, S POWER.

SO LET ME LET A**L KIND OF ELABORATE A LITTLE BIT AND THEN WE'LL, WE'LL TAKE ACTION ON ONE OR THE OTHER, OR BOTH.

MAYOR COMMISSIONERS.

EVA GARCIA FOR THE RECORD, PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR.

UH, AS PREVIOUSLY DISCUSSED, UH, THE ITEM THAT WAS TABLED WAS A, UH, POSSIBLE PURCHASE OF TWO KUBOTA, UH, MINI EXCAVATORS.

UM, I RECENTLY SPOKE TO, UH, THE VENDORS.

THEY'RE STILL AVAILABLE.

UH, THEY CAN DELIVER 'EM BY THE END OF WEEK.

UM, I KNOW WE, WE DISCUSSED AND THEN WE DID RECEIVE THE SECOND QUOTE.

I DID FOLLOW UP ON THAT ONE WITH MR. ROBERT FROM MPE.

UM, I HAVE ALSO, UH, CONTACT WITH HIM AND, UH, HE'S ABLE TO DELIVER AS WELL, UM, IMMEDIATELY WHAT HE SAID.

SAME THING AS, AS BOTH.

UM, SO THO THOSE ARE OPTIONS.

THAT'S WHY, UH, WE BROUGHT IT UP FOR DISCUSSION.

AGAIN, JUST TO GIVE YOU GUYS THE OPTION.

UM, I'M JUST IN A BIG NEED FOR MY DEPARTMENTS FOR THESE MINI EXCAVATORS.

I, UH, UM, TO KEEP IT SHORT, UH, I DID LOSE, UH, ONE OF OUR MORE QUALIFIED, UH, OPERATORS, AND THAT WAS ONE OF THE REASONINGS, UH, HE LEFT TO THE CITY OF HARLINGEN.

UH, I DON'T HAVE MY OWN, UH, EQUIPMENT HERE.

THEY'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO PROVIDE IT FOR ME OVER THERE, SO I'M GONNA BE MOVING FORWARD.

SO THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, MY OPERATORS HAVE BEEN, UH, YOU KNOW, HARPING ON, ON US TO, HEY, CAN WE GET NEW, NEW EQUIPMENT? ONCE I DID THE RESEARCH, I DID LOOK INTO THE TAG GCIS THAT, UH, MP AND MR. ROBERT WAS ABLE TO PROVIDE.

I TOUCHED BASE WITH THEM, UH, THE DAY AFTER, UH, OUR MEETING LAST.

UM, I LOOKED INTO THAT BRAND.

UM, I COULDN'T FIND ANYTHING, YOU KNOW, UH, IT'S NOT VERY, UH, COMMONLY USED THROUGHOUT.

UH, THEY DO HAVE A MANUFACTURING PLANT JUST OUTSIDE OF ATLANTA.

UM, SO PARTS, I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT WOULD WORK.

I'VE NEVER DEALT WITH IT.

UH, A LOT OF MY OPERATORS HAVE NEVER OPERATED THAT, THAT PIECE OF EQUIPMENT.

UM, BUT THEY'RE PRETTY STRAIGHT, UH, THEY'RE PRETTY STANDARD ON, ON THOSE TYPES OF EQUIPMENT.

UM, THEY, THEY, UH, DID ACTUALLY INTRODUCE THE MINI EXCAVATORS TO, UH, YOU KNOW, TO THE INDUSTRY, WHICH WAS THE, THE TE GUCCI.

SO, UM, I, LIKE I SAID, I DID MY RESEARCH ON 'EM.

THEY DO HAVE 'EM AVAILABLE.

UM, LIKE I SAID, ALSO KUBOTA, THEY'RE, I KNOW THEY'RE NOT WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS.

THEY ARE LITERALLY FIVE MINUTES FROM THE SHOP HERE WITH US TOO AS WELL.

UM, THOSE ARE A LITTLE BIT MORE SEEN AND USED THROUGHOUT HERE WI WITHIN OUR AREA.

I, WE SEE 'EM WITH DEVELOPERS AND ALL THAT.

UM, THAT'S WHY WE DID BRING IT BACK UP FOR DISCUSSION AND AT LEAST TO GIVE YOU GUYS THE OPTION ON, HEY, YOU KNOW, IF WE WOULD STILL LIKE TO STAY LOCAL.

UH, I AGREE WITH THAT.

UM, MY THING IS, I, I REALLY NEED EQUIPMENT FOR OUR GUYS TO CONTINUE AND KEEP OPERATIONS FLUID.

I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS, LEAD TIME, LEAD TIME ON BOTH OF 'EM.

LIKE I SAID, THEY'RE, THEY BOTH TOLD ME, HEY, UM, ONE OF 'EM, THE KUBOTAS ARE THERE.

UM, HE'S LIKE, UH, THE, THE LONGER YOU TAKE TO GET ME A PO THE LONGER IT TAKES YOU TO GET 'EM.

MR. ROBERT ALSO AS WELL.

HE SAID, HEY, I HAVE CONTACT WITH HIM, EMAILS BACK AND FORTH STATING THAT, HEY, UH, 'CAUSE I, I HARPED ON HIM.

HEY, UH, ONE OF THE MAJOR THINGS IS LEAD TIME.

HOW I, IF YOU SAY YOU'RE GONNA GET IT TO ME AT A CERTAIN TIME, WHEN HE SAID IMMEDIATELY, SO I KNOW, UH, THAT I BELIEVE HE WAS GONNA BRING 'EM DOWN FROM THE SAN ANTONIO CORPUS, UH, SHOP.

SO I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'RE ALREADY ON SITE.

UM, BUT LIKE I SAID, UM, I JUST, THEY'RE ONSITE AT LEAST GIVE, AT LEAST GIVE YOU GUYS THE OPTION.

FOR, TO LOOK AT BOTH? UH, I TOOK, WELL MY OPERATOR OR MY YOUR OPERATOR COORDINATORS.

UH, ARE THEY BOTH MADE IN AMERICA? YES.

AND THEY BOTH BY BOARD? BOTH BY, YES.

BOTH BY BOARD IT SEEMS LIKE.

UM, WHAT, WHAT IS THE TEAM USING? DO WE HAVE AN EXCAVATOR RIGHT NOW? A MINI ONE? YES.

WHAT ARE WE USING? A FAIRLY OUTDATED ONE.

I BELIEVE IT'S LIKE A 2009 HYUNDAI.

UM, WHICH THEN AGAIN, IT GOES TO, UH, IT'S A FOREIGN, THAT ONE IS A JAPANESE TAG.

GCI IT IS ALSO A, A JAPANESE BRAND.

UM, BUT THEY DO HAVE A LOCAL MANUFACTURER.

UM, LIKE I SAID, WE'VE NEVER DEALT WITH, UH, WITH THAT, UH, PIECE OF EQUIPMENT.

SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT, WHAT I'M GONNA BE KIND OF GETTING MYSELF INTO.

UH, YOU'RE NOT GONNA DRIVE IT PARTS AND, AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

ARE YOU GONNA DRIVE IT? NO.

DO YOU TAKE YOUR GUYS TO LOOK AT 'EM

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UM, THE OPERATORS, WHAT THEY WERE, DO YOU TAKE HIM TO GO SEE BOTH? NO, NO.

JUST, UH, JUST OUR COORDINATOR.

UH, HE WAS ABLE TO STOP BY.

HE'S ALSO VERY WELL VERSED IN IT.

HE'S BEEN AN OPERATOR.

WHEN YOU BUY A CAR, DO YOU DRIVE IT, TEST DRIVE IT? YOU TEST DRIVE IT? I DON'T KNOW.

TAKE 'EM OVER THERE, SEE WHAT THEY WANT.

I'M NOT, I'M NOT GONNA DRIVE IT, BUT I WANT THEM TO BE COMFORTABLE WHAT THEY'RE DRIVING.

AND I WANT THE PARTS TO BE AVAILABLE.

'CAUSE WHAT ENDS UP HAPPENING IS YOU BUY SOMETHING THAT, AND YOU'RE NOT GONNA FIND THE PARTS.

AND THEN THAT'S WHEN YOU RUN INTO TROUBLE.

AND THAT WAS, THAT WAS ONE OF MY MAIN CONCERNS.

LOOK AT, NO, I WON'T EVEN SAY, I WON'T EVEN GIVE YOU THE EXAMPLE.

I'M GONNA GIVE YOU WITH THE, THE ONLY GERMAN DEALERSHIP THAT HAS THE PARTS.

NO, EVERYBODY KNOWS WHAT THAT'S ABOUT.

MY ONLY CONCERN WAS TO GET THEM TO TEST DRIVE AND TO, TO DO THAT IS DELAYING THE ACTION FURTHER.

AND, AND IT SOUNDS TO ME LIKE THEY NEED TO MOVE AT THIS POINT.

I THINK THAT WE NEED TO GO ON AND, UH, UM, IF THEY'RE NO GOOD, CALL 'EM, SEND IT BACK.

TELL 'EM, HEY, COME PICK IT UP AND THAT'S IT.

THEY SAY WE'RE GONNA LOOK FOR, YOU KNOW, IT'S, THEY'RE THE ONES WHO, UH, TRY TO SELL IT TO US.

YOU KNOW, SO THEY EITHER STAND BY THE, BY THEIR, UH, BY THEIR PRODUCT, THE PRODUCT, OR WE WANNA LOOK AT THEM AGAIN.

SO THEY NEED TO FIGURE IT OUT.

AND I KNOW, UH, MY ONLY THING ONCE I REVIEWED IT AND I DID REVIEW THE QUOTES AND THEN THE QUOTES THAT THEY GAVE US, UM, WHERE THE DISCOUNTS, UH, AS YOU CAN SEE DOWN THE LINE, I DO HAVE ANOTHER MP PIECE OF EQUIPMENT, WHICH I BACKHOE HOPED THE BACKHOE THAT ONE, HE DID HAVE IT AVAILABLE.

UM, I REACHED OUT, UH, KIND OF TO KIND OF CLARIFY, HEY, HOW DOES A BUYBOARD DISCOUNT GET APPLIED TO ONE VERSUS THE OTHER? UM, 'CAUSE AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE TAG GUCCI ONES, WE, UH, IT HAS TWO UNIT DISCOUNTS, BUT, UM, IT'S FAIRLY MINIMAL.

IT'S A THOUSAND DOLLARS THAT THEY REDUCED IT BY.

UM, AS IF YOU WERE TO SEE THE BACKHOE QUOTE, UM, IT WAS REDUCED BY ALMOST $43,000.

THEY GAVE US A BUYBOARD DISCOUNT FOR 25% OF THE UNIT PRICE, WHICH WAS 1 34 AND THEY INCLUDED AN ADDITIONAL $9,000 DISCOUNT.

UM, MY QUESTION ON THAT ONE WAS, WHY IS IT BEING APPLIED TO ONE PIECE OF EQUIPMENT VERSUS, AND NOT ACROSS THE BOARD? UM, I DIDN'T REALLY GET AN ANSWER ON THAT ONE.

UM, BUT LIKE I SAID, WE, THAT ONE STILL, THEY STILL CAME OUT UNDER THE OTHER TWO QUOTES.

SO LIKE I SAID, I WANTED TO JUST AT LEAST BRING IT UP FOR DISCUSSION AND AT LEAST GIVE YOU GUYS THAT OPTION.

UM, SO WE CAN AT LEAST OKAY.

WE'RE STILL ON SEVEN OR EIGHT THOUGH AT THIS POINT? YES SIR.

SO SEVEN OR EIGHT.

THE QUESTION IS, WHICH, WHICH BRAND DO YOU PREFER? ARE YOU MORE COMFORTABLE WITH? UH, FROM MY OPERATOR STANDPOINT, THEY, THEY'RE COMFORTABLE WITH THE KUBOTAS.

LIKE I SAID, NONE OF 'EM HAVE OPERATED.

I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE PURCHASE THE KUBOTA UNITS PRIOR THAT WE HAVE TO UNT THE FIRST ONE? YES.

I'M SORRY IT WAS TABLED.

I YEAR, I CONFESS, UH, MOTION TO UNT, THE ITEM NUMBER SEVEN.

I GOT A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER GOODMAN TO UNT ITEM NUMBER SEVEN.

DO I HAVE A SECOND SEC? UH, SECOND.

GOT SECOND BY MAYOR TIM.

ANY NAYS? MOTION PASSES TO ONT ITEM NUMBER SEVEN.

SO BOTH OF 'EM NOW ARE ON TABLE.

ON TABLE.

UH, MOTION TO APPROVE.

UH, ITEM NUMBER SEVEN, THE PURCHASE OF THE KUBOTA TRACTORS.

UH, GOT A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER GOODMAN TO, UM, PROCEED ON ITEM NUMBER SEVEN WITH THE KUBOTA.

DO I HAVE A SECOND? WELL, MAYOR, I KIND OF SWAY WITH, UM, MAYOR PRO TEM VO, UM, AND TESTING THEM OUT AND SEEING, JUST BECAUSE YOU PREFERRED, AND I MEAN, THIS OTHER ONE HAS BEEN OUT THERE WAY LONGER THAN THE ONE THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.

THE KUBOTA.

HASN'T BEEN OUT THERE FOR THIS TIME FOR A REASON, YOU KNOW.

NO, OTHER THAN THAT THEY STARTED UP IN 19 SIX.

IT WORKS.

YEAH, NO, UM, I, I REALLY THINK THAT WE SHOULD TRY OUT AND IF THIS PERSON DECIDED TO GO ELSEWHERE, IT'S NOT BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE THE EQUIPMENT.

'CAUSE WE HAVEN'T HAD THE EQUIPMENT PROBABLY FOR SOME TIME A WEEK OR TWO WASN'T GONNA MAKE A DIFFERENCE IF HE WAS GONNA LEAVE OR NOT.

NO.

AND THAT'S ACROSS THE BOARD.

I, I, YOU KNOW, I DIDN'T JUST GO TO MY, UH, MY, UH, DISTRIBUTION OR COLLECTIONS.

GUYS THAT OPERATE THE HEAVY MACHINERY, BACKHOES, STUFF LIKE THAT.

I WENT TO MY STREET GUYS, YOU KNOW, THEY, SOME OF 'EM HAVE 10, 15 PLUS YEARS OF EXPERIENCE AND I JUST, HEY, THREW OUT THE NAME.

HAVE YOU EVER ENCOUNTERED ONE OF THESE PIECE OF EQUIPMENT? HOW DO YOU FEEL? UM, ALL OF THEM ARE, HEY, I WANNA GO JOHN DEERE.

UH, THEY'RE STRONG.

I'M OKAY.

JOHN DEERE.

HEY, THAT'S KIND OF OKAY.

BUT I, I GET IT.

WHY THEY GO RIGHT OFF THE BAT.

UM, NONE OF THEM REALLY ENCOUNTERED IT.

UM, LIKE I SAID, UH, IT WAS, UH, SO I DID GET, YOU KNOW, THEIR INPUT AS WELL.

'CAUSE THEY'RE THE ONES THAT ARE GONNA BE OPERATING IT.

UM, MM-HMM.

SO DO THEY HAVE THE SAME CONTROLS AND EVERYTHING, THE FOOT PEDALS AND EVERYTHING, OR JOYSTICK? YES.

AND THEY TRAINING THOUGH? MM-HMM.

, THEY CAN'T GO TO TRAINING FOR THESE MACHINES AS WELL.

I MEAN, I'M PRETTY SURE THEY DIDN'T KNOW NOTHING ABOUT KUBOTA BEFORE EITHER.

BEFORE GETTING A BOARD ONE.

SO I MEAN, IT, IT JUST BALANCES.

MM-HMM, .

SO WHAT ARE WE GONNA DO? UM, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND ON THE TABLE.

FOR WHAT? WHO SECOND FOR WHAT? DID SOMEBODY SECOND IT? NOBODY SECOND IT.

NO, NO, WE

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JUST UNTD IT.

AND YOU MADE THE MOTION.

I MADE THE MOTION TO APPROVE, BUT I'LL SECOND.

TO APPROVE WHAT, WHICH ONE WAS NUMBER SEVEN? ITEM NUMBER SEVEN, TO PURCHASE THE, UH, KUBOTA OR TWO KUBOTA MACHINES.

THE TWO KUBOTAS, RIGHT.

SO I'VE GOT A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER GOODMAN TO, UH, PROCEED WITH THE, UH, TWO KUBOTAS AND, UH, SECOND BY, UH, COMMISSIONER SANCHEZ.

SO ITEM NUMBER EIGHT.

DO I HAVE A MOTION FOR ITEM NUMBER EIGHT? WOULD THAT BE THE SAME THING OR WE'RE GONNA DO BOTH OF 'EM? OR ONE OR WHAT? ANYBODY.

WELL, IT'S HIM.

WHAT'S THE ISSUE WITH BUYING BOTH OF THEM? SO THERE'S EITHER TWO KUBOTAS OR TWO TAKUCHI ? IS THAT HOW YOU SAY IT? TE SO TE TWO DIFFERENT BRANDS AND IT'S A $5,000 DIFFERENCE.

WHAT KUBOTA'S, HAR OR NOES POWER HAS THE OTHER ONES HERE IN SANTO.

I DON'T DRIVE EXCAVATORS.

YOU JUST GOTTA TEST DRIVE IT AND SEE WHICH ONE OF YOU GUYS LIKE, UM, AND HE DID AND HE STOPPED BY THE SHOP.

HE TOLD US HE WAS GONNA BRING ONE TO DEMO IT.

UM, THAT'S WHEN, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, IT KIND OF WAS DURING THE HOLIDAYS.

I DON'T KNOW IF HE WAS ABLE TO OR HAVE IT ARRIVED AND, AND GIVE US A DEMO RUN.

BUT THEN THAT'S WHEN, UH, WE GOTTA DO THAT FIRST.

'CAUSE LIKE IT, I REMEMBER ONE TIME A STREET SWEEPER AND THEN NO ONE KNEW HOW TO USE IT.

THE GUY LEFT AND THEN IT DIED THERE ON THE LOT.

I DON'T WANT THAT TO HAPPEN.

WE NEED TO KNOW WHAT WE'RE USING.

WE NEED TO KNOW WHAT WE WANT.

AND IF YOU WANT IT, BUY, YOU KNOW, BRING IT TO THE COMMISSION AND IF YOU CAN USE IT, BUY IT IF YOU NEED IT.

AND I'M, I, I KNOW YOU, YOU'RE GONNA NEED IT.

'CAUSE WE'RE GONNA DEMO SOME HOMES.

, BUT SMALL FOR THAT, BUT OH, WELL, IT'LL, YEAH, YOU NEED, IT'LL, IT'LL CLEAN UP AFTERWARDS.

BUT JUST, JUST PICK SOMETHING YOU LIKE AND KNOW HOW TO USE.

'CAUSE WHAT ENDS UP HAPPENING IS, LIKE FOR PARKS, YOU HAVE 20 DIFFERENT LAWNMOWERS.

AND THEN IF YOU NEED A PARK, YOU'RE NEVER GONNA FIND THE PARK.

JUST STICK TO ONE BRAND.

STICK TO WHAT YOU GUYS WANT.

STAY CONSISTENT.

SO HAVE NO ONE'S TEST DRIVEN THEN? YEAH.

IF THERE'S NO MOTION TO DIE, SEVEN, GETTING BACK, UH, NUMBER EIGHT DIES.

SO I GUESS, UH, WHAT Y'ALL IN A SENSE WANT IS FOR TO GO DRY HIM OUT AND I GUESS BRING, ONCE THEY'RE DRIVING OUT, THEN DIE.

YEP.

CAN WE DO THAT? SO ARE WE FORCING THEM TO DO LOCAL? LIKE WE'RE TELLING HIM, HEY, WE WANT YOU TO GO TO THAT ONE.

AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING, I THINK NO, BECAUSE BY BOARDS ARE OUT TOWN.

SO HOW'S HE GONNA TRY THOSE? BOTH OF THEM.

IT IS TWO DIFFERENT PRODUCTS FROM BY BOARDS.

IT'S PRESUMED TO BE THE LOWEST.

IT'S TWO SEPARATE PRODUCTS.

I THINK THE ISSUE THE COMMISSION HAS IS THAT THEY TEST THEM, NOT, THEY MAY STILL WANT TO GO IN NUMBER SEVEN, BUT I GUESS YOU'VE SEEN THAT STREET SWEEPER DIE ON THE LOT.

BUT THIS IS CRAZY.

WE'RE LIKE, THIS IS NOT, AND THE PIECE OF EQUIPMENT, THEY'RE PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD ON, ON HOW THEY OPERATE.

UM, I'M SURE ONE OF MY MORE EXPERIENCED OPERATORS CAN GET ON THERE AND WILL BE PERFECTLY CAPABLE OF OPERATING IT.

UM, LIKE I SAID, MY, MY MAIN CONCERN IS GETTING MY GUYS, LIKE I SAID, I DON'T WANNA LOSE ANOTHER OKAY.

OPERATOR BASED ON, HEY, WE DON'T HAVE ANY EQUIPMENT.

UM, LIKE HE, HIS MAIN THING WAS, HEY, YOU KNOW WHAT, LET'S GET THIS, LET'S JUST, DO I MAKE A MOTION? YOU KNOW, I HAVE HIM MAKE A MOTION TO GET THE ITEM NUMBER SEVEN.

THE TWO.

DO I HAVE A SECOND? THE KUBOTA SECOND.

WAIT, ARE WE GOING, WELL, YOU ALREADY WENT BACK THE NUMBER SEVEN.

NO, THE UH, AND THAT ONE ALREADY.

NUMBER EIGHT.

SO YOU'RE GOING, BUT NUMBER EIGHT IS SAYING, UM, OASIS POWER, IT'S N OASIS POWER.

POWER IS, THAT'S THE ONE YOU'RE GONNA GO WITH? NO.

LOCALLY.

IF IT DOESN'T WORK, AND THEY, OR YOU KNOW, WHEN, WHEN THEY GO THEY DON'T LIKE IT.

UH, YOUR WORKERS DON'T LIKE IT UNTIL WE ISSUE HIM A PO WE, YEAH.

WE, WE DON'T MAKE A PURCHASE.

SO IF HE HAS 'EM ON THE LOT, LIKE HE SAYS HE DOES, I CAN TAKE MY GUYS IN THERE TOMORROW, GO TRY EVERYTHING WORKS OUT AND I'LL, AND YOU SAY THAT THEY DON'T LIKE HIM AND THEY, THEY, YOU KNOW, IT'S HARDER TO, TO WORK WITH, BRING 'EM BACK AND THEN THEY'LL, YOU KNOW.

WE'LL, YEAH.

'CAUSE I, I ENDED UP GETTING WITH MR. ROBERT.

I GOT ALL THE SPECS ON IT.

UH, THEY ADD UP.

UM, LIKE I SAID, I, I JUST WASN'T, I WASN'T REALLY FAMILIAR WITH THE PIECE OF EQUIPMENT.

YEP, I KNOW.

SO NOW PARTS, ALL THAT THAT COMES INTO, PLAYS A FACTOR INTO IT.

UM, WELL, WE'RE GONNA HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE FOR THAT.

I SECOND.

SO ALL IT IS, SO THE, I HAVE A MOTION FOR, UH, I MOTION MYSELF ON, UH, , UH, GOT A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER MORALES.

YOU BUY NUMBER NINE, CONSIDERATION AND ACTION.

OKAY, PERFECT.

IF THEY DON'T LIKE IT, SIR, WHEN THEY GO OVER THERE AND SAY IT, AND THEY, YOU KNOW, IT'S HARDER TO WORK WITH OR IT'S CAN'T, THEN, UH, YOU KNOW, NOW'S THE TIME.

DON'T ASK FOR ANY MORE STUFF.

, I'LL DO THAT.

TEST DRIVE YOUR CARS BEFORE

[9. Consideration and possible action to approve Payment Number 4 to Ferguson Service Systems, Inc., as recommended by Hanson Professional Services, Inc., pertaining to the Stenger Surge Tank Lift Station Improvements in the amount of $455,342.15.]

FIVE YEARS.

AND THAT'S WHY ALL THE EQUIPMENT'S BROKEN.

APPROVED PAYMENT NUMBER FOUR TO FERGUSON SERVICE SYSTEMS, INC.

ITEM NUMBER NINE, CONSIDERATION POSSIBLE ACTION

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ANY QUESTIONS? ALL NO QUESTIONS.

SECOND BY COMMISSIONER SANCHEZ.

GET A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER GOODMAN SECOND.

ITEM NUMBER 10, CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO APPROVE THE PURCHASE OF A 2020 4,580 NEP CASE.

ANY NAY? YOUR PASSES MAYOR FOR THE RECORD, THAT'S $455,342 AND 15 CENTS.

[10. Consideration and possible action to approve the purchase of a 2024 580 NEP Case Tractor Loader Backhoe from Nueces Power Equipment, via Buyboard Contract Number 685-22, for the total amount of $94,969.16.]

TRACTOR LOADER BACKHOE FROM WEST POWER AND EQUIPMENT VIA BUYBOARD FOR 94,000 969 16.

MR. GARCIA STAFF WOULD RECOMMEND APPROVAL.

STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL THIS BACK, UH, LIKE I SPOKE TO MR. UH, THIS WAS AN ITEM THAT WAS, UH, BROUGHT UP FOR DISCUSSION AS WELL.

UM, WE'RE IN A NEED IN THAT DEPARTMENT AS WELL.

I HAVE, I ACTUALLY, ONE OF THEM IS IN NEP RIGHT NOW, OR MP RIGHT NOW GETTING, UH, SHAFT SEALS REPLACED.

SO, UM, I'M DOWN ONE BACKHOE IN THAT DEPARTMENT, SO GETTING THEM A NEW ONE, UM, TO KIND OF KEEP LIKE, LIKE I SAID, UH, OPERATIONS FLUID.

UM, SAME BUYBOARD NUMBER, UH, SAME VENDOR THAT ONE I, I DO FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH, WITH GOING WITH THEM.

I I, I'D LIKE TO TELL A QUICK STORY HERE JUST, JUST BECAUSE I'M, I'M GONNA BRAG ON YA A WHILE, UH, SUNDAY NIGHT, I, OR I GOT A CALL SUNDAY, SATURDAY, I GOT A CALL FROM, FROM, UM, A CITIZEN, MR. RUDY GARZA.

MR. RUDY GARZA ABOUT, UH, I SPOKE TO HIM ON SATURDAY NIGHT, OR IT WAS SATURDAY, I BELIEVE.

UH, YOU GET A CALL TOO, OR WHAT? WELL, I GOT, I GOT A EMAIL AND A TEXT MESSAGE.

HE'S WELL, VERY WELL WORDED EMAIL.

SO HENCE WHY WE HAD THAT DISCUSSION YESTERDAY BETWEEN US.

SO, WELL, AND, AND SO I JUST WANT TO, AND, AND THUS, AND YOU WENT OVER THERE ON MONDAY AND WENT TO HIM.

HE WENT MONDAY AND THEY TOOK CARE OF THE ISSUE AND I GOT ANOTHER TEXT BACK FROM HIM.

HE JUST REALLY ELATED AT, AT THE SPEED WITH WHICH, AND EVEN SURPRISE THAT THAT WAS TAKEN CARE OF.

I REALLY APPRECIATE THE SPEED WITH WHICH YOU'RE TRYING TO TAKE CARE OF THINGS AND THE, AND WHAT YOU'RE, WHAT YOU'RE DOING HERE.

AND IT WILL CONTINUE TO IMPROVE THE, UM, THE QUALITY, THE, THE, THE WHAT PEOPLE PERCEIVE OF THE CITY MANAGEMENT HERE, THE PERCEPTION OF CITY MANAGEMENT HERE.

SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR DOING THAT.

AND I WANNA SUPPORT AND SUSTAIN YOU AND AS THEY SAY, YOU KNOW, FAN YOU AND CARRY YOUR ICE WATER TO, UH, TO SEE THAT THESE THINGS ARE DONE.

SO, UH, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT.

I JUST WANT TO TELL THAT STORY BEFORE I MAKE THE MOTION TO APPROVE THE EXPENDITURE ON THIS PIECE OF EQUIPMENT.

OKAY? THANK YOU, SIR.

APPRECIATE THAT.

UM, I'LL MAKE A MOTION IF IT'S THERE TOMORROW MORNING.

IF NOT, I DON'T WANT IT NOW.

I'LL BE TOUCHING BASE WITH ROBERT FIRST THING IN THE MORNING UNTIL I ALL I IT TOMORROW MORNING.

MOTION SECOND.

SO I GOT A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER GOODMAN, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER SANCHEZ.

[11. Consideration and possible action to approve the purchase of a 2023 Ford F250 4x4 Crew cab pickup truck from Sames Ford for the total amount of $50,560.75.]

11, SIR.

CONSIDERATION POSSIBLE ACTION TO APPROVE THE PURCHASE OF A 2023 FORD F 2 54 BY FOUR CREW CAB PICKUP TRUCK FROM SAMS FORD FOR THE TOTAL AMOUNT OF 50,000 560 75.

CHIEF, UH, GOOD EVENING MAYOR.

MAYOR PROAM, COMMISSIONERS FIRE CHIEF.

UH, SO THIS IS FOR A 2023, UH, 42 50 THAT, UH, WE'RE HOPEFULLY WE'LL GET FROM SAMES.

UH, THE OTHER, UH, QUOTES, AS YOU HAVE SEEN, UH, THE PRICES WERE A LITTLE BIT STEEP HERE IN TOWN, SO WE DID HAVE TO GO.

UM, WE NOT LOCAL.

SO, UM, STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL.

UM, IS THIS A USED VEHICLE? OH, IT'S BRAND NEW.

NO, THIS IS A GOOD DEAL.

SO WHAT I KNOW WITH, WELL, 'CAUSE WHAT I'VE HEARD IS THAT SAME IS TRAIN.

THEY'RE BUY IT, IT IS MOTION TO PROOF.

SECOND , YOU BUY FIVE.

WHAT I'VE HEARD IS THAT THEY'VE, SINCE THEY SIT MANAGEMENT, SOME OF THE MANAGER'S VEHICLES ARE ONLY DRIVEN LESS THAN A THOUSAND MILES.

AND BECAUSE OF THAT, IT'S CONSIDERED USED.

SO THEY'RE GOING ON A GREAT DISCOUNT AND IT'S NOT REALLY USED.

I WOULD LOOK FOR THOSE UNDER A THOUSAND MILES.

MANAGER DRIVEN.

THEY TAKE CARE OF THEIR VEHICLES.

AND, AND I THINK IT'S, UH, FROM WHAT THEY TOLD ME WAS THAT, UH, SINCE THEY BECAME, UH, SAME, UH, THEY'RE TRYING TO LIQUIDATE SOME OF THAT INVENTORY, CORRECT? RIGHT.

THAT'S THE ONLY ONE YOU, THAT'S ONLY THE ONLY ONE.

SO THAT, THAT'S THE ONLY ONE I CAN AFFORD RIGHT NOW.

I WANT ONE.

I LIKE HIS ANSWER.

WE ALL WANT ONE THOUGH.

GET A, HE'S GONNA COME BACK NEXT AND DRESS IT UP THOUGH.

A MOTION TO APPROVE.

I GOT A MOTION BY MAYOR SECOND GALVAN.

SECOND BY COMMISSIONER.

UH, MORALES.

THANK YOU

[12. Consideration and possible action to reschedule the January 2, 2024 Regular City Commission Meeting for the January 16, 2024 Regular City Commission Meeting.]

CHAIR.

CHIEF ITEM 12, CONSIDERATION POSSIBLE ACTION RESCHEDULE A JANUARY 2ND, 2024 REGULAR CITY COMMISSION MEETING TO JANUARY 16TH, 2024.

UM, MAYOR, COMMISSIONERS, WE WE'RE GONNA HAVE A COUPLE SHORT WEEK, SHORT WEEKS IN BETWEEN THERE.

AND BECAUSE OF THE WAY THE HOLIDAYS ARE FALLING, UH, STAFF WOULD LIKE, WE NEED A FEW MORE DAYS TO PREPARE THE AGENDAS.

SO STAFF WOULD RECOMMEND APPROVAL IN ONE WEEK.

UH, ANY QUESTIONS? NOPE.

DO I HAVE A MOTION? MOTION? I GOT A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER MORALES, AGAIN BY COMMISSIONER SANCHEZ.

I'D LIKE, I'VE GOT A COUPLE ITEMS HERE THAT I, I'D NEED TO CONFER WITH LEGAL ON.

13.

UH, MAYOR COMMISSIONERS.

I, I,

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I'D LIKE TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION IF POSSIBLE.

THAT'S STAFF COMPENSATION.

UH, OKAY.

SO WHAT ABOUT WE MOVE THAT TO WHICH ONES ARE WE GONNA EXECUTIVE SESSION? EXCUSE ME, WHICH ONES ARE WE GOING TO? EXECUTIVE SESSION? UH, FOR SURE.

NUMBER 14.

THAT'S, UH, 14.

ALSO STAFF.

BUT 13.

SO 13 AND 14.

YOU WANTED TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION? UH, NOT NECESSARILY 13, BUT, UH, 14, 15 AND 17 FOR SURE.

14.

IF WE COULD TAKE ON 13 IF YOU'D LIKE.

FOUR.

UH, 14, 15, AND 17.

I'M GONNA RECOMMEND TABLING.

UH, I GUESS THIS ITEM 13, UH, WE CAN TAKE IT ON IF, IF Y'ALL LIKE.

DISCUSSION AND ACTION ON SAN BENITO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION, INC.

AND BARCO PERFORMANCE AGREEMENT AMENDMENTS NUMBER THREE AND NUMBER FOUR.

AND ACTUALLY THAT'S A CORRECTION.

IT SHOULD JUST ONLY BE AMENDMENT NUMBER FOUR.

I THINK, I THINK WHAT HAPPENED WAS THE, UH, THEY SENT BOTH AMENDMENTS.

AND SINCE WE WEREN'T PRIVY TO WHAT THOSE AMENDMENTS WERE, WE, WE INCLUDED BOTH.

AND I HAD NEVER SEEN THE ORIGINAL AGREEMENT EITHER.

SO, 47.

I KNOW MAYOR, I, I WANTED TO BRING THIS, UM, TO THE TABLE.

UM, BECAUSE ACTUALLY ALL THE AMENDMENTS CAME TO THE COUNCIL, UM, PRIOR TO GETTING THIS APPROVED.

AND I GUESS WE HAVE MS. JULIA HERE TOO, I GUESS IF WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

UM, I HAVE SOME CONCERNS ON THIS FOURTH AMENDMENT PERFORMANCE AGREEMENT WITH VARCO.

FIRST OF ALL, UM, I KNOW I'VE SAID IT AND SAID IT OVER AGAIN, THAT WE NEED TO HAVE, MAKE SURE WE HAVE BOARD MEMBERS AND EVERYBODY READ THE CONTRACT.

AND THIS VERY, THE VERY FIRST SENTENCE ACTUALLY, IT WINDS UP STATING A DATE OF NOVEMBER 8TH, 2022.

AND THIS THING HAS ALREADY BEEN SIGNED BY THE BOARD PRESIDENT AND BY VARCO REPRESENTATIVE AS WELL.

UM, I, I JUST HAVE SOME CONCERNS ON, ON WHAT WAY WE'RE GOING.

UM, THERE'S SOME DISCREPANCY ON THIS AMENDMENT AS WELL AS FAR AS THE BOARDWALK BEING INCLUDED, UM, ON THIS AMENDMENT AS WELL.

UM, THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN DONE IN PHASE ONE, AND IT'S STATING THAT, UM, IT, IT WANTS TO BE, UM, INCLUDED IN THIS AMENDMENT OF COOPERATION REGARDING AKA BOARDWALK SIGNAGE AND CROSSWALK.

UM, THERE'S SOME THINGS THAT I THINK THAT WE NEED TO GET CLARIFICATION ON ON THIS AMENDMENT.

UM, SOME THINGS THAT WE NEED TO POSSIBLY DELETE ON VERBIAGE.

UM, MAYOR ONE, THREE, YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO ADD? WELL, I KNOW THAT THE, UH, THE BOARDWALK HASN'T BEEN DONE, AND I KNOW THAT THE, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, I AGREE IT, THERE'S BEEN SO MANY DELAYS ON IT AND SO MANY, UH, AS FAR AS, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, THE, THE ONE EXTENSIONS AND YOU KNOW, WHAT ENOUGH IS NOT.

BUT, UH, UM, HONESTLY, UH, I'M IN THOSE, THOSE MEETINGS AND I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW THAT THE FOURTH AMENDMENT, YOU KNOW, UH, TO THIS CONTRACT WAS ALREADY DONE.

I DIDN'T KNOW THAT.

WHEN WAS THAT DONE? YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THAT, UH, THAT I REMEMBER IT NEVER CAME TO EDC.

DID IT? DID THEY VOTE ON IT? HI, SO, UH, FOR THE GOOD EVENING, UH, INTERIM EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR JULIE LANDRUM.

SO IT WAS APPROVED AT THAT MEETING WHEN THEY CAME OUT OF EXECUTIVE SESSION TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE TERMS OF AGREEMENT TO MOVE FORWARD, UH, WITH VARCO ON THE TERMS THAT ARE IN THIS CONTRACT.

WHAT I REMEMBER WAS THAT THE, THEY WERE GIVEN THE, UH, THE ATTORNEY THAT WE HAD THERE MM-HMM.

TO MOVE FORWARD AND TRY TO SEE IF THEY COULD, UH, YOU KNOW, NEGOTIATE AND SEE WHAT THE, WHAT THEY WERE BRINGING IT BACK.

BUT AS FAR AS ON THE FOURTH, LIKE I SAID, UH, THE MM-HMM, THE COMPLETION OF THE FOURTH AMENDMENT.

I DON'T REMEMBER THAT ONE.

THIS IS JUST A RETRO RETROSPECTIVELY APPROVING THE THIRD AMENDMENT ALREADY PASSED, RIGHT? YES.

THE THIRD ALREADY PASSED.

SO THERE WAS SOME SPECIFIC ITEMS THAT WERE DISCUSSED ON MOVING FORWARD WHEN, AND THEY WERE NAMED WHEN THEY OUT, UH, CAME OUT OF EXECUTIVE SESSION TO MOVE FORWARD.

AND IT WAS, UH, SOME OF THE TERMS AS OF A PENALTY, $500 PER DAY THAT THE, UH, CONSTRUCTION STILL CONTINUES AFTER THAT DEADLINE, AS WELL AS, UM, A LUMP SUM AT THE END.

AND, UM, AGAIN, THE, THE DEADLINE.

SO, YOU KNOW, I, I GUESS, JULIA, I GUESS MAYBE YOU COULD, UM, FOLLOW ME ALONG WITH THE DISCREPANCIES THAT I HAVE WITH THIS AMENDMENT.

THE FIRST ONE BEING THE DATE.

DAY THAT THE COMMISSION APPROVES IT.

'CAUSE THAT DATE USUALLY IS THE, THE

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AND THAT'S HOW IT'S BEEN WITH THE FIRST, SECOND, AND THIRD AMENDMENT.

UM, THE NEXT THING WOULD BE, UM, WHEN THE PARAGRAPH WHERE IT SAYS, WHEREAS VARCO HAS COMPLETED CONSTRUCTIONS OF PHASE ONE AND TWO WHERE IT STARTS MM-HMM.

, UM, THAT'S ACTUALLY NOT TRUE BECAUSE THE BOARDWALK WAS PART OF THAT COMPLETION OF PHASE ONE.

UM, THE NEXT THING WOULD BE ON THE ADDITIONAL OPTION FEE.

I, I THINK THAT WE NEED TO DELETE THE WORD OPTION BECAUSE THAT BASICALLY STATES AN OPTION AND, AND NOT AN OPTION THAT WAS AN ADDITIONAL FEE.

UM, SO IN THAT PARAGRAPH AS WELL, UPON EXPIRATION OF THE GROUND LEASE AND PERFORMANCE AGREEMENT AS AN ADDITIONAL OPTION, AGAIN, WOULD NEED TO BE DELETED.

UM, AND I THINK WE WOULD NEED TO ADD A MAYOR SOMETHING LIKE MAYBE A LIEN NEEDS TO BE PUT ON THIS PROPERTY, UM, AT THE END OF THIS PAYMENT THAT WILL BE ASSURED THAT IF, UM, THEY DON'T GO THROUGH WITH IT, THAT, UM, EDC IS COMPENSATED.

I MEAN, THIS BOARD MAY NOT BE HERE.

THE, THE EDC BOARD MAY NOT BE THE SAME AND NOBODY'S GONNA RECALL WHAT WENT ON UNLESS THERE'S SOME KIND OF REPERCUSSION THAT HEY, WE'RE GONNA GET THIS MONEY BACK.

, UM, ON THE NEXT PAGE TOO, UM, DELAY OF DAMAGES WHERE IT WINDS UP SAYING, UM, LATER ON AND IT VARCO SHALL PAY THE OWNER, I THINK IT NEEDS TO PUT IN THEIR EDC.

THAT WAY WE SPECIFIED WHO THE OWNER IS.

UM, AND COOPERATION REGARDING THE SAKA BOARDWALK SIGNAGE AND CROSSWALK.

I THINK THAT WHOLE PARAGRAPH SHOULD BE DELETED AGAIN BECAUSE THAT WAS ALREADY IN THE ORIGINAL CONTRACT, UM, TO BE COMPLETED IN PHASE ONE.

AND, AND I GUESS A QUESTION THOUGH, MS. LANDRUM TOO IS UNDER WHOSE AUTHORIZATION THOUGH, UM, GUIDED YOUR, I GUESS, THE BOARD PRESIDENT AND TO SIGN A CONTRACT STILL? I MEAN, IF HE HAD READ IT, HE WOULD'VE NOTICED THE DATE AS WELL.

IT WASN'T CORRECT ON BOTH PARTIES ACTUALLY.

, UH, JUST ON ED'S SIDE, BUT BARCO AS WELL.

I MEAN, WHO GUIDED TO MY KNOWLEDGE, AS SOON AS THE, THAT MEETING WAS OVER WHEN THEY TALKED ABOUT THOSE TERMS, THE CONTRACT WAS THEN ELECTRIFIED TO WHAT WAS DISCUSSED.

AND THEN, UM, ALONG WITH THE PREVIOUS DIRECTOR AND, UH, THE BOARD PRESIDENT MOVED FORWARD AND SIGNING IT WITH, UH, VARCO, IF THERE'S ANY.

AMEN.

IF THERE'S ANY AMENDMENTS TO THIS CONTRACT, IT'S, MY QUESTIONS ARE FOR THE ATTORNEY.

, UM, THE, YOU CAN CHOOSE TO PUT IT BACK TO , WHO'S, WHO'S SUPPOSED TO BE IN CHARGE? WHO'S SUPPOSED TO BE IN CHARGE OF THIS CONTRACT? UH, THERE'S TOO MUCH, UM, CONFUSION HERE.

WELL, THE, THE BETWEEN THE A C AND THE OTHERS, Y'ALL ARE INSTANCE OF RATIFYING OR DOING, BUT THAT ALL DEPENDS ON THE BYLAWS YOU HAVE AT THE A C BECAUSE GENERALLY BY STATED BEFORE, THE CITY GENERALLY CONTROLS EVERYTHING, BUT THAT'S MORE THROUGH .

A LOT OF THE STUFF THAT THE EDC DOES DOESN'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO COME OVER HERE.

SO IT DEPENDS ON WHERE YOU HAVE IN THE STATE.

I THINK EVEN UPGRADED TO SEPARATE THEM FROM.

BUT SPECIFICALLY STATUTE, NO, NO STATE STATUTE.

IT INCLUDE STATUTE UN UNBUDGETED EXPENSE ITEMS. THE STATE STATUTE STILL STATES THAT IN TYPE B, ANY PROJECTS, AND THIS WOULD BE A PROJECT OR PURSUANT OF PROJECTS, WOULD HAVE TO GO BEFORE THE COMMISSION.

SO IS THIS A PROJECT THAT HAS TO COME TOWARDS PROJECT? IS THIS AN AMENDMENT OF A PROJECT? AMENDMENT OF A CONTRACT FOR A PROJECT HAS TO COME TO US.

THE PROJECT ITSELF COMES IN THE BEGINNING AND OF COURSE THE WHOLE PUBLIC HEARING HAPPEN.

NOW, THIS IS A LITTLE, I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH AS TO WHAT HAS HAPPENED IN DC MM-HMM.

A LOT.

THAT'S, UH, THAT'S THE, I HAVE, I DUNNO WHAT HAPPENED.

WELL, IN, IN THE, THE BYLAWS IT STATES MM-HMM.

AND THE EDC BYLAWS THAT ANY CONTRACTS AMENDMENTS HAVE TO COME THROUGH CITY COUNCIL, BUT NOT ONLY THERE ON THEIR OWN PERFORMANCE AGREEMENT THAT BOTH SIGNED STATES THAT IT WOULD, IF THE SIGNATURE IS ON IT LIKE IT IS RIGHT NOW, IT BECOMES NULL AND VOID UNTIL COUNCIL APPROVES IT.

SO IT'S NOT JUST ON THE BYLAWS, IT'S ON THE PERFORMANCE AGREEMENT THAT BARCO SIGNED WITH EDC.

SO I MEAN, WE NEED TO START DOING WHAT'S IN BLACK AND WHITE.

IT'S THERE FOR A REASON TO PROTECT NOT JUST ONE PARTY, BUT BOTH PARTIES.

BUT ULTIMATELY THE DECISIONS THAT EDC MAKES, WE HAVE REPERCUSSIONS AS WELL.

I, I THINK WE, UM, MAYOR, CAN WE, CAN I ASK TO MOVE THIS INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION SO WE CAN DISCUSS WITH LEGAL COUNSELS? YEAH.

SO AS OUR JOB AS ELECTED OFFICIALS IS TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE HANDED OUT APPROPRIATELY, AND IF THEY'RE IN BLACK AND WHITE, WHY AREN'T WE LIVING UP TO THEM? I, I MEAN, WHY IS THERE A CONTRACT IN PLACE IF WE'RE NOT GONNA HOLD IT UP? I MEAN, BECAUSE I KNOW THEY USED IT, BARCO USED IT ON THEIR AMENDMENTS BECAUSE OF THE COVID.

SO WHY CAN'T WE USE THE SAME CONTRACT ON THEM?

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LIKE, YEAH, I THINK, UH, A QUESTION.

UH, WHAT ELSE? UH, OKAY.

MR. SANDOVAL, YOU SAID YOU WANT THE, CAN WE PUT THE ITEM? 13, 14, 15 IN SEVEN.

IN 17.

AND, AND FOR THE RECORD THOUGH, I UNDERSTAND WHY WE WANNA GO TO EXECUTIVE SESSION.

NONE OF THESE AMENDMENTS HAVE EVER GONE TO EXECUTIVE SESSION.

THEY'VE ALL BEEN ON THE FLOOR.

WELL WE NEED TO GET, UH, THIS, UM, CAN WE SKIP, UH, OKAY.

CAN WE SKIP NUMBER, UH, TWO, NUMBER 16 AND TABLE.

OH.

THAT WAY WE DON'T HAVE TO DO IT WHEN WE COME OUT.

CAN WE DO IT RIGHT? CAN WE DO IT RIGHT NOW? WE'RE, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO TAKE ACTION ON THESE WHEN WE COME OUT ANYWAY.

SO IT'S UP TO YOU ALL.

YOU CAN DO IT NOW IF YOU'D LIKE.

MOTION TO TABLE NUMBER 16.

I GOT A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER GOMAN.

SECOND BY COMMISSIONER MORALES.

OKAY, ITEM, UH, NUMBER 13, 14, 15, AND 17.

IN NAYS, MOTION PASSES TO TABLE ITEM NUMBER 16.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

COMMISSIONERS.

[EXECUTIVE SESSION]

DO I HAVE MOTION TO TAKE IT INTO, UH, EXECUTIVE SESSION? WE NEED A MOTION.

MAYOR.

OPINION.

THE, YOU JUST FOR EXECUTIVE SESSION.

THERE SOME LEGAL ISSUES? YES.

SO DO I HAVE A MOTION? RECESS.

HAVE MOTION BY COMMISSIONER GLU A SECOND.

WE DON'T NEED A MOTION.

OH, YOU NEED A MOTION? OKAY.

SORRY, I DIDN'T HEAR HIM.

THE TIME IS, UH, 6 47.

WE'RE GOING INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION.

WE GOT IT.

YOU READY, SIR? YES, SIR.

SIR.

COMMISSIONER, YOU GOOD? YES.

GREAT.

ITEM NUMBER, MAYOR.

COMMISSIONERS, WE'RE BACK IN REGULAR SESSION.

13, MAYOR COMMISSIONERS, UH, DISCUSSION AND ACTION ON THE SAN BERNARDINO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION, INC.

HOLD ON.

UH, TIME IS SEVEN 17.

WE'RE BACK FROM EXECUTIVE SESSION ITEM NUMBER

[13. Discussion and action on the San Benito Economic Development Corporation, Inc., and VARCO Performance Agreement Amendments Number 3 and Number 4.]

AND BARCO PERFORMANCE AGREEMENT AMENDMENT AMENDMENTS NUMBER THREE AND FOUR STAFF WOULD RECOMMEND TABLING.

MOTION TO TABLE.

OKAY, I GOT A MO I GOT A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER GOODMAN, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER SANCHEZ.

UH, IN FAVOR, AYE.

ANY NAYS? MOTION PASSES TO TABLE ITEM NUMBER 13.

ITEM NUMBER

[Items 14-17]

14, CONSIDERATION POSSIBLE ACTION TO APPROVE EMPLOYEE END OF THE YEAR, END OF YEAR SALARY SUPPLEMENT AS DISCUSSED IN EXECUTIVE SESSION MOTION.

UM, SIR, CAN WE, CAN WE DO ITEM NUMBER 16 UNT ON TABLE 16.

16? YEAH.

CAN WE UNT NUMBER 16 AND WE'LL TAKE 14, 15, 16, 17.

SECOND AS A, AS A CONSENT SECOND TO UNT 16.

TO DO I HAVE MOTION TO UNT NUMBER 16.

UH, MOTION TO UNT 16 I I MOTION BY COM.

UH, MAYOR POT GALVAN.

SECOND BY, UH, COMMISSIONER MORALES TO UNT NUMBER 16.

ANY NAYS? MOTION PASSES TO UNT NOW, UM, CONSENT, UH, 15 ON THE 14TH, 15, 16, AND 17.

DO I HAVE APPROVE A MOTION? DO I MOTION APPROVE? SO I'VE GOT A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER SANCHEZ, SECOND BY MAYOR POT GALVAN.

UH, BEFORE WE DO THAT, I WOULD LIKE TO, UH, YOU KNOW, WISH EVERYBODY, UH, MERRY CHRISTMAS.

UH, PLEASE BE SAFE.

OKAY? WE WANT YOU BACK AND, UH, WE NEED FOR YOU TO WORK.

UH, COMMISSIONERS, ANYTHING? HAPPY HOLIDAYS.

HAPPY NEW YEAR, BUT, UH, NO.

SEE YOU NEXT YEAR.

AND YOU KNOW WHAT? ANYBODY ELSE? NONE THE TIME IS, UH, SEVEN 19.

WE'RE EX UH, WE ADJOURN.