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          [1. Welcome.]
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          NO, ONE'S AT THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE CITY OF SAMANTHA CITY COMMISSION IS TUESDAY, AUGUST THE SECOND, 2022. 
          IT'S A 5 31. 
          WE HAVE A QUORUM I'D LIKE TO WELCOME EVERYBODY. 
          UM, I DON'T REMEMBER TO PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO US LIKE IN A TEXAS FLAG AND PLEASE REMAIN STANDING FOR THE INVOCATION THAT MR. FABIOLA, I PLAYED DELICIOUS  AND THIS IS A REPUBLIC, WHICH IS JUSTICE FOR ALL. 
          I KNOW IT TAKES US. 
          IT TAKES US ONCE THEY LET US PRAY. 
          GOD OF ALL CREATION. 
          WE COME BEFORE YOU TO WELCOME YOU TO THIS MEETING, WE GIVE YOU RESPECT AND ACKNOWLEDGE YOU AS OUR CREATOR AND PROVIDER. 
          IT IS YOU WHO ARE ON THE PRESENT. 
          YOU'RE EVERYWHERE. 
          LORD. 
          IT IS YOU WHO ARE OMNIPOTENT. 
          YOU HAVE ALL THE POWER LORD. 
          AS WE BEGIN THIS MEETING, WE ASK THAT YOU WOULD GUIDE OUR THOUGHTS AND OUR ACTIONS. 
          SO THE WAY WE ARE SUCCESSFUL TODAY, HELP US TO ACCOMPLISH OUR GOALS WHILE DISPLAYING YOUR CHARACTER. 
          WE PRAY, WE PRAY THESE THINGS IN YOUR MIGHTY NAME. 
          AMEN. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU, MR. 
          [4. Announcements: Items of Community Interest.]
OKAY. 
          I DON'T REMEMBER FOR, UH, ITEM IS A COMMITTEE INTEREST COMMISSIONERS, ANYTHING? WELL, UM, I DO, FIRST OF ALL, I LIKE TO GO CONGRATULATE, UH, WHEN OUR COMMISSIONERS, HE JUST BECAME A DEBT. 
          OKAY. 
          SO I'M SURE HIS LITTLE DAUGHTER WILL BE WE'RE UP THERE ON HIS FINGER. 
          OKAY. 
          YOU'RE HERPING HERE. 
          WHAT'D YOU LISTEN, SIR? ALL THE BEST. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, THE NEXT ONE IS, UH, THE SECOND, UH, CITY PUT COURT IS SCHEDULED FOR, UH, FIVE, BETWEEN FIVE AND 10 ON SATURDAY, AUGUST THE 20TH AT HAVEN MEMORIAL PARK INTERESTED VENDORS ARE ENCOURAGED TO REGISTER AT THE EVENT BY CALLING AT THE CITY AT 9 5 6 360 1 3800. 
          AND, UH, ALSO, UM, LIKE FOR YOU TO, UH, LIFT UP, UH, COMMISSIONER, UH, SANCHEZ, UH, FOR HEALTH. 
          SO I JUST LOOKED HER UP TO YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, ALSO MONDAY SCHOOL WILL BE STARTING ALSO. 
          SO PLEASE, PLEASE, TO THE PEOPLE OUT THERE, UM, SCHOOL ZONES BE AWARE, NO CELLS BE AWARE OF THE, THE KIDS AROUND. 
          OKAY. 
          WE DON'T NEED ANY, ANY ACCIDENTS OR ANY TRAGIC ADS OR ANYTHING ELSE. 
          SO PLEASE, PLEASE BE AWARE OF THOSE SCHOOLS ON OKAY. 
          THE NEXT FOUR NEXT WEEK, UH, NEXT WEEK. 
          AND, UH, THAT'S ALL I GOT COMMISSIONERS Y'ALL HAVE ANYTHING ELSE. 
          OKAY. 
          [5. Public Comments — (Speaker/Remarks limited to three minutes. Not more than three speakers on one topic.)]
I DONE NUMBER FIVE, PUBLIC COMMENTS. 
          UH, RUTH, DO WE HAVE ANYBODY FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS? UH, YES. 
          MAYOR MR. TOM GOODMAN WAS THE GOODMAN, TOM GOODMAN, 900 AR LANE, SAN BENITO LONG-TIME RESIDENT MAYORS COMMISSIONERS. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK THE, UH, FIRST ONE TO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR ALLOWING ME TO BE ABLE TO SERVE ON PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD. 
          RIGHT NOW, I LOOK FORWARD TO CONTINUE TO, UH, LEARN A LOT, TO DO A LOT. 
          IT'S EXCITING TO ME RIGHT NOW. 
          WHAT I SEE HAPPENING IN THE CITY. 
          THERE'S THERE'S, UH, OBVIOUSLY IN TALKING TO ENRIQUE AND THE OTHERS BACK HERE, THEY'RE SPENDING LOTS OF HOURS BECAUSE WE LOTS OF GREAT STUFF THAT ARE HAPPENING AND WE, A LOT OF NEW SUBDIVISIONS AND OTHER THINGS THAT ARE, THAT ARE, THAT ARE COMING HAPPENING. 
          WE'RE SEEING NEW EATERIES OPEN UP. 
          WE'RE SEEING WE'RE GOING TO RESTAURANTS AND OTHER PLACES, OTHER THINGS CONTINUING TO OPEN UP. 
          AND I THINK IT'S AN EXCITING TIME HERE IN TOWN. 
          AS A RESULT OF THAT. 
          I THINK WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS WE NEED TO KIND OF GET OUT IN FRONT OF SOME OF THAT A LITTLE BIT, BECAUSE PERCEPTION IS SO IMPORTANT. 
          WE WANT TO ENCOURAGE MORE PEOPLE. 
          WE'VE GOT DEVELOPMENT GOING ON AND WE WANT PEOPLE ARE GOING TO WANT TO BUY PROPERTIES AND SO ON, AND THEY NEED TO KNOW AND UNDERSTAND THAT SAN BENITO IS A GREAT PLACE TO LIVE TO THAT END. 
          I WOULD AGAIN LIKE TO OFFER MY HELP TO CONTINUE TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE CAN BETTER PROMOTE THE CITY. 
          UM, I, UM, I HAVE MARKETING BACKGROUND. 
          I SERVED 
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DOWN ON SOUTH POTTERY ISLAND HAVE BEEN ABOUT FIVE YEARS ON THE CONVENTION AND VISITORS BUREAU DOWN THERE VERY MUCH IN SCOTCH AND MARKETING. 
          I UNDERSTAND MARKETING COMMUNITY MARKETING, DMO, MARKETING, UH, AND THOSE KINDS OF THINGS. 
          AND I VERY MUCH WOULD LOVE TO SEE THAT WE CAN FORM SOME SORT OF COMMITTEE OR, OR GROUP THAT CAN HELP TO PROMOTE THE GOOD THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING HERE IN TOWN, MUCH MORE THAN WE ARE CURRENTLY. 
          SO I OFFER MY HELP TO BE ABLE TO, TO, TO SEE IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT CAN BE FORMED PUT TOGETHER. 
          I HAVE A NUMBER OF IDEAS THAT I'D BE HAPPY TO SHARE ALREADY WITH HOW WE CAN BEGIN TO DO SOME OF THOSE THINGS TO IMPROVE THE PERCEPTION OF WHO WE ARE AND WHAT WE ARE AS A COMMUNITY. 
          BECAUSE I THINK THERE'S GREAT PEOPLE THERE THERE'S HAVE BEEN GREAT PEOPLE HERE FOREVER AND EVER, AND WE JUST NEED TO CONTINUE TO PROMOTE THAT AND HELP TO, TO CHANGE THE ATTITUDES SOMETIMES OF SERVING THOSE PEOPLE THAT COME HERE AND TO HELP THEM TO UNDERSTAND WHAT A GREAT PLACE THIS IS TO LIVE. 
          AND IT'S NOT AN EASY JOB SOMETIMES, BUT WE NEED TO GET OUT THERE AND HELP PEOPLE KNOW AND UNDERSTAND THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT TRYING TO KEEP THEM AWAY. 
          WE WANT THEM TO COME, YOU KNOW, YES, WE HAVE RULES AND THINGS THAT WE HAVE TO GO BY. 
          THAT'S ALL GREAT AND GOOD. 
          SO WHATEVER THAT COMMITTEE CAN DO OR THAT GROUP OF PEOPLE CAN DO TO HELP, TO IMPROVE THAT PERCEPTION AND GUIDE PEOPLE TOWARDS HOW TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OR TO LIVE ACCORDING TO THE RULES AND THINGS THAT HAPPEN HERE IN TOWN. 
          I THINK THAT THE OPPORTUNITY IS THERE TO LIFT INTO AND TO DO BETTER FOR OUR COMMUNITY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          THANKS. 
          SURE. 
          OKAY. 
          DO WE HAVE ANYBODY ELSE  HI, MY NAME IS . 
          I LIVE AT 5 83 NORTH SAM HOUSTON BOULEVARD, A BLOCK AWAY FROM THIS BUILDING. 
          I DO HAVE SOME ITEMS I WANT TO SHARE WITH THE COUNCIL. 
          UM, DO YOU JUST WANT TO HAND THEM OUT OR DO I GIVE THEM TO SOMEBODY SPECIFICALLY? I WAS BORN IN SAN BENITO AND ALTHOUGH I WORK IN HARLAND GIN, I'VE KEPT MY RESIDENCE IN SAN BENITO AND I PLANNED TO RETIRE IN SAN BENITO. 
          SO I AM VESTED IN THE CITY. 
          UM, MY CHILDREN GREW UP IN A HOUSE. 
          IT'S A BLOCK AWAY FROM YOU RECENTLY. 
          I REPURPOSED MY HOME, SO THAT COULD GET READY FOR RETIREMENT. 
          NOW THAT I'M AN EMPTY NESTER. 
          I MADE A BIG INVESTMENT IN, IN REPURPOSING THIS HOUSE FOR MYSELF, FOR RETIREMENT AND FOR AN OLDER BROTHER OF MINE, UM, TO FOLLOW UP ON MR. GOODMAN'S CONVERSATION PERCEPTION. 
          MY PERCEPTION WITH MY RECENT EXPERIENCE AT CITY HALL IS THAT THERE IS UNIFORMITY IS LACKING ON INTERPRETATION OF RULES AND POLICIES. 
          UM, I DON'T FEEL THAT THE CITY EMPLOYEES ARE HERE TO GUIDE HER FACILITATE RESIDENTS OF SAN BENITO, WHO, WHICH TO MAKE THEM WHO WISH TO MAKE IMPROVEMENTS ON THEIR HOME. 
          AS YOU KNOW, THE BIGGEST INVESTMENT MOST PEOPLE MAKE IN THEIR LIFETIME IS THEIR HOME. 
          AND TODAY I'M FEELING VERY DISCOURAGED WITH THE, UM, ATTITUDE AND THE ANSWERS THAT I'VE BEEN GIVEN UP TO THIS POINT AT CITY HALL. 
          SO TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF A BACKGROUND ON THE HISTORY OF WHAT'S GOING ON WITH MY PROJECT, IF YOU LOOK AT THE PAPERWORK THAT I FROM THE BOTTOM, LET'S START FROM THE BACK. 
          SO I AM THE CONTRACTOR FOR THIS PROPERTY. 
          SO I AM TAKING A LONG TIME TO FINISH IT BECAUSE I'M LEARNING AS I GO ALONG. 
          UM, THIS STARTS BACK ON JANUARY 12TH WHERE I'M ASKING IF I CAN EXTEND MY CARPORT TO FIT FOUR VEHICLES. 
          BUT BEFORE STARTING ON THE DESIGN, I DID ASK SITTING SEVERAL QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT. 
          THE ANSWER THAT I GOT WAS AS LONG AS YOU DON'T ENCLOSE IT, IT'S OKAY. 
          IT'S AN EXISTING STRUCTURE. 
          WHEN I BOUGHT THIS HOME. 
          AND 2000, I THINK I MOVED IN, IN 2007, THIS CAR PORT ALREADY EXISTED. 
          IT WAS AN EXISTING STRUCTURE, MAYBE IN THE 1950S. 
          WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE HOME THAT USED TO BELONG TO DALI. 
          VINCENT DR. 
          VINCENT BUILT THIS HOUSE. 
          IT'S A BLOCK FROM HERE, SO THAT CARPORT WAS ALREADY THERE. 
          SO THE RESPONSE THAT I GET VERBALLY IS THAT IT'S OKAY. 
          I CONTINUE TO WORK ON THE ARCHITECTURE AND ON THE FOLLOWING PAGE, YOU'LL SEE THE PICTURE OF THE CARPORT, PUT HIM IN THAT'S OUR OVER. 
          IS THERE ANY WAY TO GET AN EXTENSION ON THIS? OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          I'LL TRY NOT TO TAKE TOO MUCH TIME. 
          SO THE SECOND PAGE SHOWS YOU THE ACTUAL RENDERS OF THE CARPORT. 
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AND AGAIN, I ASKED THE QUESTIONS ON, ON GO TO THE NEXT PAGE, PAGE, PAGE THREE FROM THE BACK. 
          THAT'S WHAT I WANTED, UM, TO GET GUIDANCE ON. 
          AND AGAIN, VERBALLY, I WAS TOLD, AS LONG AS YOU'RE NOT IN CLOSING IT, YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND MOVE FORWARD WITH IT. 
          SO I DID, UM, I STARTED WORKING ON THE CAR PORT AND THERE'S A PICTURE OF IT. 
          THIS IS WHAT I SUBMITTED TO THE CITY. 
          ABOUT TWO WEEKS INTO IT. 
          I WAS ISSUED A STOP ORDER. 
          THE INVESTMENT SO FAR, YOU'LL SEE A CHECK IS $19,000 FOR THE BEAMS, FOR THE STRUCTURE. 
          THE STRUCTURE ITSELF WAS NOT VERY SOUND. 
          IT HAD FALLEN BEFORE DURING HURRICANE DOLLY. 
          SO WHEN THE CARDBOARD BENDERS CAME OUT, THEY SAID, OKAY, WE NEED TO REPLACE OR REINFORCE THE STRUCTURE. 
          IT'S NOT GOING TO HOLD. 
          AND SO AGAIN, I REMINDED THE INSPECTOR THAT I WAS WORKING ON THE CAR PORT AT NO POINT, DID HE TELL ME I NEED TO PULL A PERMIT? UM, BASICALLY I WAS JUST GIVEN THE, GO AHEAD VERBALLY. 
          WHEN THE STOP BORDERS ISSUED, I CONTINUE TO WORK ON THE PERGOLA AND THE SHED, WHICH IS BEHIND THE CARPORT. 
          I WAS ISSUED A PERMIT. 
          I PUT A COPY OF THE PERMIT HERE. 
          I START WORKING ON THAT. 
          AND A WEEK LATER AFTER INVESTING AGAIN, MORE MONEY WITH NEW VENDORS, I WAS ISSUED A STOP ORDER ON THAT AS WELL. 
          THE REASON I WAS GIVING MY MR. BELL'S THAT IT WAS A MISTAKE TO BE ISSUED A PERMIT TO BEGIN WITH, AND THAT I NEED TO CLARIFY OR CLEAR UP THE ISSUE WITH THE CAR PORT BEFORE I CONTINUE WITH THE SHED AND THE PERGOLA. 
          SO TODAY I'M AT A STANDSTILL. 
          SO I JUST WANTED TO COME AND TALK TO YOU ABOUT THAT AND EXPLAIN TO YOU THAT I AM A LONG RESIDENT OF SAN BENITO. 
          I APPLIED TO BE HERE. 
          I LIVE HERE, I'M INVESTED HERE. 
          AND I THINK AT THIS POINT, I'M REALLY DISCOURAGED. 
          I NEED TO GET SOME GUIDANCE. 
          I DON'T REALLY GET A, A WRITTEN, UM, FOLLOW UP. 
          IT'S BASICALLY VERBAL. 
          WHERE IS THE SECTION? WHERE'S THE PARAGRAPH THAT SAYS, THIS IS NOT ALLOWED. 
          I HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANYTHING IN WRITING. 
          FURTHERMORE, WHEN I ASKED ABOUT A VARIANCE, I WAS TOLD THE VARIANCE WAS NOT POSSIBLE BOTH BY MR. BELL AND OTHER EMPLOYEES AT, AT THE CITY HALL. 
          AND YOU KNOW, I'VE WORKED IN GOVERNMENT BEFORE, AND I KNOW THAT THERE'S ALWAYS AN APPEALS PROCESS OR A VARIANCE SHOULD HAVE BEEN GIVEN TO ME, BUT I'VE NOT BEEN GIVEN THAT OPPORTUNITY. 
          SO WHAT I DID IS I HIRED A CONSULTANT THAT COULD COME AND LOOK UP PERHAPS, UM, CODE BECAUSE THAT'S NOT MY AREA. 
          I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH ANY OF THAT. 
          UM, SO I HAVE MY REPRESENTATIVE HERE TODAY. 
          THAT'S GOING TO SPEAK TO ME A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT, ABOUT MY CASE WITH ANYBODY ELSE, MR. BEN CORTEZ STICK WITH THIS, UH, BEN CORTEZ. 
          I LIVE AT 6 75 SOUTH DAKOTA STREET HERE IN SAN BENITO. 
          UH, I DO CONSULTING WORK. 
          UH, I'VE BEEN INVOLVED WITH CONSTRUCTION. 
          I'VE BUILT HOUSES HERE, APARTMENTS. 
          I'VE BEEN ON A PLANNING AND ZONING A COUPLE OF TIMES. 
          AND, UH, SHE GOT MY NAME AND I TOLD HER THAT I WOULD DO THE BEST THAT I COULD. 
          UH, I WENT TO THE SOURCES, THE RESIDENTIAL CONSTRUCTION COMMISSION OF TEXAS, THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT, UH, ADVOCATE, UH, PERMITS QUALITY ALSO WENT TO THE, UH, CODE ENFORCEMENT, UH, LAW, UH, TEXAS CODE CHAPTER 1 19 52, WHICH I WILL ALL THIS. 
          I WAS GIVEN BY THE, UH, AGENCIES THAT I CONTACTED, UH, BASICALLY, UH, THE PICTURE, UH, OR THE, THE ITEM ON THE, ON HER CAR PORT IS, IS A, IS A RE A REPLACEMENT OF THE DILAPIDATED ONE. 
          UH, SHE SPENT, AND I THINK YOU HAVE THE, THE, SHE SPENT A LOT OF MONEY ON ARCHITECTS AND ENGINEERS AND THEY GO BY THE CODE. 
          EVERYTHING IN THAT PROPERTY IS WITHIN THE PROPERTY LINE, THE FENCE LINE ALL THE WAY FROM THE BACK TO THE FRONT, EVERYTHING'S IN THE PROPERTY LINE, INSIDE THE PROPERTY. 
          UH, I SPOKE WITH MR. BELL ABOUT, HE WAS TELLING ABOUT SETBACKS. 
          HE WAS TELLING ME ABOUT AN ORDINANCE. 
          I COULDN'T FIND IT. 
          UH, WHEN I CALLED THE STATE, 
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THEY SAID, THERE'S A CODE. 
          THE CODE SUPERSEDES, THE ORDINANCES SUPERSEDES THE POLICIES. 
          APPARENTLY, UH, THE CODE ENFORCEMENT IS, IS ENFORCING POLICIES THAT HAVE BEEN APPROVED BY THE COMMISSION AND, UH, THE, THE, UH, EXISTENCE OF THE CARDBOARD. 
          WHEN I EXPLAINED THE VALUE OF IT, THAT, UH, THE CITY RECOMMENDED IT BE TORN DOWN FOR HER TO MOVE FORWARD. 
          THEY SAID, THAT'S RIDICULOUS. 
          $20,000. 
          WHAT DOES SHE GET A VARIANCE? WELL, SHE HAD ALREADY TRIED TO GET A VARIANCE, BUT THEY TOLD HER THAT THE VARIANCE, EXCUSE ME, THAT THE VARIANCE WAS NOT GOING TO BE APPROVED. 
          IT DOESN'T, UH, BEFORE, WHEN I WAS ON THE PLAN AND ZONING, A VARIANCE WAS SUBMITTED, BUT THROUGH THE PLAN IS ONLY MADE A RECOMMENDATION AND IT CAME TO THE COMMISSION FOR FINAL APPROVAL. 
          A LOT OF THE VARIANCES THAT WE RECOMMENDED FOR NOT GETTING APPROVED WOULD GET APPROVED. 
          YOU HAVE TO LISTEN TO THE WHOLE STORY. 
          THERE'S ALWAYS HAS TO BE AN EXCEPTION. 
          AND, UH, IF YOU, UH, IF YOU LOOK AT HER PROPERTY, THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE ANOTHER HOME IN SAN. 
          YOU LIKE IT. 
          I CAN GUARANTEE YOU I'VE SEEN IT. 
          THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT'S PUT IN THERE, ALL DESIGNED BY ARCHITECTS AND ENGINEERS, UH, THE, THE PROCESS OR DUE PROCESS HAS NOT BEEN GIVEN TO THIS, TO THIS INDIVIDUAL. 
          AND, UH, IT'S UP TO THE, UH, TO, TO THE COMMISSION TO APPROVE THE VARIANCE I EVER, THIS IS JUST THE FIRST STEP IT CAN GO ON UNTIL IT GETS TO THE STATE, UH, TO THE STATE BOARDS. 
          AND THEN I THINK THAT THEY WOULD, THEY WOULD DO THE EVALUATION OF THE CODE ENFORCEMENT IN SAN BENITO. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU, SIR. 
          NO MORE PUBLIC COMMENTS. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU, RUTH. 
          [6. Consideration and possible action to approve the Minutes of the March 29, 2022 Special City Commission Meeting.]
OKAY. 
          AND I'M GOING TO SIX CONSIDERATION POSSIBLE ACTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES ON MARCH 29TH, 2022 ESPECIAL CITY COMMISSION MEETING. 
          DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? OKAY. 
          DO I HAVE A MOTION MOTION BY  SECOND SECOND BY COMMISSIONER GABON, ALL IN FAVOR, ANY NAYS MOTION PASSES 
          [7. Consideration and possible action to approve reducing the current Specialist Office Visit co-pay on the City of San Benito’s Major Medical Group Health Plan for the Fiscal Year 2022-2023.]
AT A NUMBER SEVEN CONSIDERATION POSSIBLE ACTION TO APPROVE REDUCING THE CURRENT SPECIAL SPECIALIST, UH, OFFICE VISIT COPAY FOR THE CITY OF SAMANTHA MAJOR MEDICAL GROUP HEALTH PLAN FOR FISCAL YEAR 20 20 22 THROUGH 2023. 
          AND MR. DAVID GARZA, VIC, UH, PRESENT THIS FROM LONE LONESTAR INSURANCE SERVICE. 
          THANK YOU, MAYOR COMMISSIONERS. 
          MY NAME IS RUBEN. 
          GOT US ON WITH LONESTAR INSURANCE SERVICES. 
          WE ARE THE BROKER OF RECORD FOR THE CITY OF SOME BENITO. 
          UM, WE ARE ASKING FOR CONSIDERATION POSSIBLE ACTION TO APPROVE REDUCING THE CURRENT SPECIALIST OFFICE VISIT COPAY FROM $50 TO $35. 
          UM, THE CURRENT SPECIALIST OFFICE VISIT CO-PAY, UH, WE FELT WAS EXCESSIVE, AND WE FEEL THAT EMPLOYEES WOULD HAVE BETTER ACCESS TO THEIR SPECIALISTS, THEREBY IDENTIFYING POSSIBLE CHRONIC CONDITIONS, UH, AND, AND HELPING CONSERVE, YOU KNOW, UH, DOLLARS ON THE CITY'S SELF-FUNDED HEALTH PLAN. 
          SO THE RECOMMENDATION IS TO REDUCE THE SPECIALIST OFFICE VISIT COPAY FROM 50 DOWN TO $35 PER VISIT. 
          UM, THE PRIMARY CARE VISIT WOULD REMAIN AT 25. 
          GOOD QUESTIONS. 
          I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS, MR. GARCIA, YOU SAID THAT YOUR ORGANIZATION IS RECOMMENDING THE REDUCTION IN COPAY. 
          UH, WE, WE WERE, WE MET WITH, UH, CITY STAFF AND, UM, WE ASKED, WHAT DO YOU THINK WE COULD DO WITH THE PLAN? UH, WHAT REC WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEE IN THE PAST? THEY'VE BEEN VERY VOCAL ABOUT WHAT THEY'D LIKE TO SEE AS FAR AS IMPROVEMENTS AND, UH, THIS YEAR THE PLAN IS RUNNING WELL, BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE HEARD BACK WAS THAT, UM, UH, YOU KNOW, THE COPAY FOR SPECIALIST OFFICE VISIT WAS, MIGHT BE A BIT HIGH. 
          AND SO, YOU KNOW, THAT THAT'S WHAT WE'RE, WE'RE RECOMMENDING. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, MAYBE NOT AS LOW AS THE PRIMARY CARE OFFICE VISIT AT 25, BUT MAYBE 35 WOULD BE MORE ACCESSIBLE FOR THEM. 
          BUT W WHAT THROWS ME OFF IS THAT YOU STATED THAT YOU WERE MAKING THE RECOMMENDATION, BUT I'M SEEING THAT THE FINANCIAL IMPACT IS GOING TO BE ON THE CITY. 
          UM, ARE YOU, IF YOU'RE GOING TO MAKE THE RECOMMENDATION, DO YOU FEEL LIKE MAYBE THAT KOBE CAN COME DOWN ON YOUR, ON, ON YOUR END, ARE YOU ABLE TO PROVIDE, WELL, WHAT I MEAN BY THAT COMMISSIONER 
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IS THAT WHEN WE MEET WITH THE CITY AND WE START TO DISCUSS, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S WORKING FOR THE PLAN AND NOT WORKING FOR THE PLANT, WE ARE HELPING TO, TO SHAPE IDEAS AND OPTIONS FOR THE CITY TO, TO, YOU KNOW, PROVIDE BETTER ACCESS TO THEIR EMPLOYEES. 
          UH, WE'VE CERTAINLY DONE OUR JOB IN CONTAINING COSTS FOR THE CITY. 
          I'LL SHOW YOU THAT ON THE NEXT ITEM STOP-LOSS TAKES CARE OF THAT. 
          SO MY QUESTION IS ANOTHER QUESTION I HAVE IS PRIMARY CARE VISITS, ANNUAL HEALTH VISITS. 
          PREVIOUSLY, WE DISCUSSED, IF WE WOULD HAVE AN ANNUAL HEALTH FAIR, DID WE HAVE AN ANNUAL HEALTHCARE? UH, THE LAST ANNUAL HEALTH FAIR WE HAD WAS HOW LONG AGO, DEBBIE, I THINK COVID SORT OF INTERRUPTED THAT, BUT THE CITY HAS NOT APPROVED YET FOR US TO HAVE ONE . 
          OKAY. 
          AND YOU ARE OTHER CITIES HAVING THOSE HEALTH FAIRS. 
          I THINK PRIMARY CARE MANAGEMENT IS THE BEST WAY TO TACKLE HEALTHCARE. 
          VERSUS IF I FEEL LIKE IF YOU REDUCE A SPECIALIST VISIT, YOU'RE TELLING THE BENEFICIARY, HEY, LET'S GO VISIT A BUNCH OF SPECIALISTS. 
          AND YOU ALSO MENTIONED A REDUCTION AND FINDING CHRONIC CONDITIONS. 
          WELL, A SPECIALIST IS A SPECIALIST IN ONE CHRONIC CONDITION WHERE AN INTERNIST OR A PRIMARY CARE DOCTOR HAS A BROAD SCOPE OF PRACTICE. 
          SO IF WE WERE TO REDUCE A COPAY, I WOULD MUCH RATHER IT BE THE, THE PRIMARY CARE DOCTOR VISIT COPAY TO ENCOURAGE THEM TO UTILIZE THEIR PRIMARY CARE DOCTOR. 
          LIKE THEY SHOULD BE INCENTIVE, OVERSTEPPING, AND GOING STRAIGHT TO THE SPECIALIST THAT, THAT BRINGS THE QUESTION. 
          DO THEY HAVE TO GET A REFERRAL TO SEE THE SPECIALIST? OR CAN THEY GO STRAIGHT TO THE SPECIALIST? THEY COULD GO STRAIGHT TO THE SPECIALIST. 
          IT'S A PPO, NOT AN HMO. 
          YEAH. 
          SO SOMETIMES YOU FIND THAT A LOT OF TIMES THEY'LL SKIP PRIMARY CARE AND THEY'LL WAIT UNTIL THE, THE TIME CLOCK EXPLODES, RIGHT. 
          TAKING TIME OFF. 
          AND THEY END UP IN THE ER OR THEY END UP AT THE SPECIALIST BECAUSE THEY SKIPPED THEIR ANNUAL HEALTHCARE VISIT, OR THEY SKIPPED A PRIMARY CARE VISIT. 
          SO THERE IS ONE AN ANNUAL CARE VISIT A REDUCTION IN COPAY, IN THEIR PRIMARY CARE VISIT, NOT SO MUCH AS A, UH, THE SPECIALIST. 
          AND THIS, YOU SAID, ALSO SAID THAT THIS WAS DETERMINED BY THE STAFF. 
          UM, BUT WAS THERE A SURVEY DONE WITH THE, UM, AVERAGE 200 EMPLOYEES OF CITY OF SAN BENITO? OR WAS IT JUST A SELECT DEPARTMENT HEADS? UH, WE MET WITH THE DEPARTMENT HEADS. 
          WE DO HAVE, UM, SO IT'S, UH, IT'S, UH, THE OPINION HAS ALREADY BEEN NARROWED DOWN TO SELECT VIEW. 
          CORRECT. 
          THEN I ALSO SEE THAT THERE'S ONLY BEEN 99 SPECIALIST VISITS. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, HOW MANY, HOW MANY PRIMARY CARE OFFICE VISITS WERE THERE? YEAH, THERE WERE, THERE WERE 400 THROUGH JUNE 22ND. 
          THERE WERE 400 PRIMARY CARE VISITS FOR A TOTAL OF $41,443. 
          AND YOU, DO YOU HAVE NUMBERS AS FAR AS HOW OFTEN DOES EACH EMPLOYEE GO TO AT LEAST THEIR, THEIR, THEIR ANNUAL PHYSICAL? BECAUSE THERE THEY HAVE ONE APPROVED BY THE, BY THE PLAN, BY THE PLAN TO SEE THEIR OWN DOCTOR. 
          UH, BUT THEY ALSO, I GUESS, UH, YOU GUYS WOULD THROW AN ANNUAL HEALTH FAIR. 
          ARE THEY ABLE TO GO TO BOTH OR DOES ONE SUFFICE FOR, WELL, THE BLOOD DRAW? SO ON THAT AT THE ANNUAL HEALTH FAIR, WE BRING IN LABS, THE CITY PAYS FOR THOSE. 
          WE NEGOTIATE PRICING FOR THE CITY TO PAY DIRECT AND BYPASS THE PLAN. 
          SO THE CITY PAYS, I THINK WE GOT $15. 
          SO THEY GET TO DO THE BLOOD DRAW. 
          THERE THAT'S ONE OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE IT BACK TO THEIR PRIMARY CARE. 
          AND THEN OF COURSE THEY HAVE THEIR ANNUAL WELLNESS VISIT WHERE THERE'S A TYPICAL CBC. 
          IS THAT, IS THAT POINT OF CARE? IS IT POINT OF CARE? IS IT COMPLETE A LIPID PANEL A1C FOR GLUCOSE? IT'S EVERYTHING. 
          I, I'M NOT SURE. 
          UH, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S, UH, IT'S BROKEN DOWN. 
          WELL, EXCUSE ME, CAN YOU COME UP HERE? THEY'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO HEAR, UH, I'M DEBBIE ALVAREZ, I'M THE AGENT WITH RUBEN ALSO AT LONESTAR INSURANCE SERVICES. 
          SO THE CITY ALSO HAS THE INCENTIVE THAT THEY PUT IN PLACE THAT FOR ALL EMPLOYEES THAT GO AND DO THEIR ANNUAL VISITS, THEY SUBMIT PROOF OF THEIR ANNUAL VISIT. 
          AND THEN YOUR SELF-INSURED PLAN THAT THE CITY OWNS REIMBURSES THEM $150 BACK. 
          SO THAT IS THE INCENTIVE FOR EVERY SINGLE EMPLOYEE TO GO AND GET THEIR ANNUAL VISIT CONDUCTED ON A YEARLY BASIS. 
          IT'S A STAFF AWARE OF THIS, MR. DELAROSA. 
          YES, SIR. 
          IT'S SENT OUT. 
          YES, SIR. 
          SO DO WE DO THAT WAS INITIATED BY THE CITY. 
          THOSE ARE NOT THINGS THAT WE PUT INTO PLACE, AND THEN SOMETIMES YOU ALL OWN THE PLAN, SO YOU ALL GET TO DO WHAT YOU WANT TO DO. 
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OKAY. 
          I MEAN, I SEE THAT WE'RE TRYING TO REDUCE THE FINANCIAL IMPACT, BUT I JUST, WHAT I DON'T LIKE IS THAT IT'S A SELECT FEW 99 VISITS. 
          IS IT JUST BY LIKE MAYBE 10 EMPLOYEES, 15 EMPLOYEES? I WOULD MUCH RATHER TRY TO REDUCE THE COST FOR ALL THE EMPLOYEES FAIRLY. 
          AND THEN ALSO I'VE SEEN THAT THESE, WHEN SOMEONE TRIES TO ADD A SPOUSE, UM, IT'S, IT'S A, IT'S A, IT'S EXPENSIVE AND THAT'S TRADITIONAL, RIGHT. 
          BUT WHEN YOU TRY TO ADD CHILDREN, IT'S, IT'S ALSO PRETTY HIGH. 
          WELL, WE HAVE THE RATES FOR ALL THAT. 
          UM, SO YOU'VE, YOU'VE SEEN THEM AND THOSE ARE THE RATES AND THAT'S ALL, UM, WE HAVE NO SAY IN THE RIGHTS, THE CITY, YOU ALL DECIDE THAT BECAUSE YOU ALL ARE THE OWNERS OF YOUR MEDICAL PLAN. 
          SO THAT IS AN OPTION FOR YOU ALL TO TAKE ON. 
          THE ONLY REASON THAT WHEN WE MET WITH THE CITY ABOUT ENHANCING THE PLAN IN SOME WAY FOR THE EMPLOYEES WAS BECAUSE THE PLAN IS RUNNING SO WELL, THAT WE DON'T NECESSARILY WANT TO REDUCE THE COST BECAUSE ONCE YOU REDUCE COSTS AND THEN YOU BRING UP PRICE LATER, IN CASE YOU HAVE SOME YEARS THAT ARE NOT RUNNING WELL, THEN THAT'S JUST A NEGATIVE, YOU KNOW, IMPACT RIGHT. 
          TO THE EMPLOYEES. 
          SO THE WAY YOU DO, WHEN YOU HAVE A PLAN THAT'S RUNNING VERY WELL, IS YOU ENHANCED BENEFITS FOR YOUR EMPLOYEES, BECAUSE WE ALL KNOW THAT THE MORE BENEFITS THAT EMPLOYEES HAVE AND THE RICHER, THEIR PACKAGES, THEY'RE LIKELY TO STAY WITH THE CITY LONGER. 
          AND THAT'S WHAT WE WANT. 
          LONG-TERM TO HAVE LOWER TURNOVER. 
          SO YOU WALK IN, YOU KNOW, UH, JUST FUNCTION MUCH BETTER, YOU KNOW, HAVING YOUR EMPLOYEES HAPPY AND THEIR PLAN RE RUNNING WELL. 
          SO WHEN WE WERE LOOKING AT DIFFERENT THINGS THAT WE COULD DO TO ENHANCE THE PLAN, THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS BROUGHT UP TO US, THAT, YOU KNOW, WHAT OUR COPAYS FOR SPECIALISTS OUT THERE IN OTHER CITIES, IN OTHER BIG COMPANIES, YOU KNOW, AND THAT WAS ONE THING THAT WE, WE SHOWED THAT IN OTHER PEOPLE, THAT MANY MUNICIPALITIES, WE HAVE A LOWER COPAY. 
          THEY DIDN'T WANT TO BRING IT ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE $25 COPAY FOR, FOR A PCP. 
          BUT THEY WANTED TO GIVE A LITTLE BIT OF SAVINGS TO THOSE EMPLOYEES. 
          BECAUSE LIKE YOU SAY, THE PC THAT YOUR PRIMARY CARE DOCTOR IS THE ONE THAT'S GOING TO DRIVE YOU. 
          AND NOT, WE'RE NOT SAYING THAT THEY, FOR THEM TO GO ABOVE AND JUST SKIP THE PRIMARY TO GO TO THE SPECIALIST. 
          BUT A LOT OF SPENT, A LOT OF EMPLOYEES DO NOT HAVE THAT ADDITIONAL MONEY. 
          ONCE THEIR PRIMARY SAYS, YOU KNOW WHAT? YOU GOT TO GO SEE THE CARDIOLOGIST, YOU GOT TO GO SEE THE UROLOGIST. 
          THEY DON'T HAVE THAT EXTRA FUNDS. 
          SO IF WE CAN HELP THEM AND REDUCE THEIR OUT-OF-POCKET A LITTLE BIT, THEN, HEY, THAT'S BETTER FOR OUR EMPLOYEES. 
          WELL, YOUR EMPLOYEES, BUT OUR EMPLOYEES. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THAT'S WHY THE MISSION OF THE ROSA AND HIS STAFF RECOMMENDED BRINGING DOWN THE SPECIALISTS, NOT TO SURPASS THE PCP. 
          I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT IT DOESN'T ALWAYS WORK OUT THAT WAY. 
          WELL, WE CAN ONLY EDUCATE AND THE CITY CAN EDUCATE AND WE CAN HELP EDUCATE THE EMPLOYEES ON, YOU KNOW, GETTING THEIR ANNUALS AND GOING. 
          BUT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THE, AT THE END OF THE DAY, YOU CAN TELL SOMEONE SO MUCH AND IT'S GOING TO BE THEIR PERSONAL DECISION, WHETHER THEY'RE GOING TO GO TO GET THEIR ANNUAL. 
          SO THEN THAT'S WHY THE $150 INCENTIVE, WHICH WE DO SUBMIT QUITE A FEW, UH, BECAUSE THE CITY SENDS THEM TO US. 
          AND THEN WE SENT SUBMIT THEM TO GET REIMBURSED. 
          WHAT PERCENTAGE ARE WE AT? DO WE HAVE THAT? WE CAN GET YOU THAT NUMBER. 
          WE DON'T HAVE HOW MANY ANNUALS, BUT WE CAN GET THAT FOR YOU. 
          WE WILL GIVE IT TO BETTER MARKETING ROUTINE, MAYBE, UH, MAYBE A DISPLAY HERE IN THE LOBBY. 
          WHAT PERCENTAGE OF EMPLOYEES HAVE MADE IT TO GOAL, RIGHT. 
          TO GET A GENERAL WELLNESS AND, AND WE CAN DO IT. 
          WE CAN DO THINGS LIKE THAT WEEKEND, GET A MARKETING PLAN TO WHERE WE CAN, LET'S SAY RAFFLE OFF SOMETHING EVERY THREE MONTHS FOR PEOPLE GOING AND GETTING THEIR ANNUALS, YOU KNOW, AN IPAD OR SOMETHING. 
          WE CAN TAKE CARE OF THAT TO, YOU KNOW, GET PEOPLE, EMPLOYEES TO BE GOING ON. 
          MY FEAR IS THAT IF YOU DO HAVE MORE ACCESS TO SPECIALISTS, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE HER. 
          IF I HAVE, HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION, A $10 DIFFERENCE TO GO SEE A SPECIALIST, I'M GOING TO GO SEE A SPECIALIST. 
          THAT'S WHY I DON'T ALWAYS GO TO THE ER BECAUSE THAT'S A 500 DOCTOR, A $500 MAYBE, OR $150 COPAY. 
          I, I, AND, AND, AND IT'S ALSO COMES TO EDUCATION, RIGHT? I WANT TO SEE THE PRIMARY CARE DOCTOR. 
          I WANT TO TAKE THE STEPS THEN DO I NEED TO SEE THE SPECIALIST? OKAY. 
          MA THIS IS AN EMERGENCY OR URGENT CARE. 
          THERE'S DIFFERENT AVENUES, RIGHT? SO THE EDUCATION OF WHICH AVENUE TO CHOOSE, BUT IF YOUR, THIS MAY ENCOURAGE MORE SPECIALISTS VISIT VISITS, AND YOU'RE GOING TO SEE AN INCREASE COST TO THE CITY OF SAN BENITO, I JUST WANT TO MAKE THAT CLEAR. 
          AND IT'S, IT'S PROVEN, RIGHT? AND $55 IS A QUITE COMMON, UH, SPECIALTY VISIT. 
          I'M NOT SURE WHERE YOU GOT YOUR DATA FROM, BUT IF YOU HAVE IT ON LIKE TO SEE IT, NO, WE DON'T. 
          WE JUST GO BASED ON ALL OUR OTHER GROUPS AND THAT THEY'RE RUNNING WELL, YOU KNOW, UH, BUT LIKE I SAID, THIS WAS NOT OUR RECOMMENDATION. 
          THIS CAME STRAIGHT FROM THE CITY. 
          IF YOU ALL, WOULD, YOU ALL CAN ENHANCE YOUR PLAN IN ANY WAY YOU OUGHT. 
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LIKE, SO IF YOU, YOU KNOW, THAT'S UP TO YOU ALL TO DECIDE ON YOUR PRIMARY CARE COPAY AND YOUR SPECIALIST COPAY, WE WERE JUST, UH, YEAH, I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, BUT WHAT I WANT TO KNOW IS, IS THERE SOMETHING OUT THERE THAT MAY BE CAUSING YOU TO, TO SUGGEST THIS? IS THERE SOMETHING TRIGGERING? UH, I MEAN, IS THERE A BIGGER PICTURE WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND? IS THERE SOMEWHERE, WHERE ARE YOU GOING TO, IS IT TO REDUCE THE, THE, I GUESS THE OVERALL COST? OR WHAT, WHAT IS THAT? OR IS IT JUST SOMETHING THAT YOU JUST WANT TO ENHANCE? BECAUSE I MEAN, IT'S TRUE. 
          IT'S GOING TO IMPACT THE CITY AND THEN, UH, WE'RE GONNA HAVE, UH, EMPLOYEES GO SKIPPING THEIR PRIMARY, OR I DON'T KNOW. 
           LET ME ADDRESS THIS. 
          WHEN, UH, BASED ON THE COMMENTS THAT COMMISSIONER GABON MADE LAST YEAR, AND AGAIN, WHAT, WHAT HAS BEEN DONE PREVIOUSLY AT ONE TIME WHEN I FIRST CAME HERE, WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY COPAYS, BUT THE, THE, THE DEDUCTIBLE WAS SO HIGH THAT WE WEREN'T HAVING EMPLOYEES GO HERE RECENTLY. 
          WE'VE GOT PEOPLE WITH COVID WITH ALL SORTS OF HEALTH ISSUES. 
          SO IT STARTED, WE HAVE AN AGING WORKFORCE. 
          MOST OF IT, YOU HEARD ABOUT 90 EMPLOYEES. 
          WELL, THEY'RE NOT ALL, UH, YOU KNOW, SO SEVERELY UNHEALTHY THAT THEY CAN'T WORK, BUT IT, IT, IT DOES KEEPS THEM A WALK AWAY. 
          NOW THEY CERTAINLY WOULD HAVE JUST AS SOON, LEAVE IT AT WHAT IT IS TODAY. 
          WE'VE ALWAYS TAUGHT IN COMMISSIONER VFR, OR YOU'VE BEEN AROUND LONG ENOUGH TO KNOW WE CAN ALWAYS IMPROVE THE BENEFITS. 
          SO I CONTINUE TO IMPROVE THOSE BENEFITS. 
          LAST YEAR, WHAT THEY DID IS WE IMPROVE THE 12, 12 ON THE VISION. 
          WE IMPROVED THE DENTAL. 
          WE, UH, UH, AT THE VERY LAST MOMENT, MR. GARZA GOT US THE, THE TERM LIFE FROM 10,000 TO 20,000, EVEN AFTER WE EVEN REMEMBER, IT WAS ONE OF THOSE THINGS GO BACK. 
          AND THEY SAID, YEAH, WE WENT BACK AND THEY SAID, YO, WE CAN, IT'S BASED AGAIN ON MORTALITY RATES AND THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          RIGHT? SO THIS IS SO, UH, THE PLANT IS DOING FAIRLY WELL, BUT I CAN TELL YOU WITHOUT VALLEY, ANYBODY'S HIPAA, RIGHT? IT'S NOT GOING TO BE THE CASE. 
          AND IF WE WAIT ANOTHER COUPLE OF WEEKS, IT'S GOING TO CHANGE, OKAY, THIS IS DONE ON A 12 MONTH PERIOD OR SOME PERIOD BEFORE THE RENEWALS. 
          AND WE KNOW THE HEALTH OF SOME OF OUR EMPLOYEES. 
          WE WON'T DISCUSS THEM. 
          I WON'T TELL YOU THE NAMES. 
          AND I CAN'T TELL WHAT IT IS, BUT I CAN TELL YOU IT'S CHANGING. 
          SO BASED ON THOSE DEDUCTIBLES CHANGE HELPED, WE HAVE STOP-LOSS, UH, COMMISSIONER BELMONT, BUT EVEN HAS A LIMITATION BASED ON SOMEBODY'S HEALTH BECAUSE OF THE AFFORDABLE CARE ACT. 
          AND I HAD TO BE REMINDED BY MR. GARZA LAST WEEK OF THE AFFORDABLE CARE THAT ANY PREEXISTING CONDITIONS, ANY ILLNESSES THAT YOU HAVE HAS TO BE COVERED NO MATTER WHAT. 
          SO WITH THAT AGING WORKFORCE, I KEEP A HEALTHY BALANCE AND THOSE PREMIUMS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CONTINUE TO HAVE A WELL-FUNDED, UH, SELF-FUNDED HEALTHCARE. 
          SO IT WAS JUST TRYING TO GIVE BACK SOMETHING TO EMPLOYEES. 
          COMMISSIONER GALVAN IS ADAMANT THAT HE DOESN'T WANT TO DO IT. 
          I AM A, OKAY, THE COMMISSION WANTS TO KEEP IT WHAT IT IS. 
          WE'RE NOT TRYING TO ENCOURAGE ANYBODY TO GO SEE SPECIALISTS. 
          LET'S SAY, IF YOU HAVE THAT UNFORTUNATE NEED, IT SHOULD BE AVAILABLE BECAUSE WE'RE PROVIDED TO YOU AS A BENEFIT, DON'T TRY TO, UH, WE ARE NOT GIVING SOMETHING AWAY THAT WE'RE NOT GETTING A RETURN. 
          WE'RE PROVIDING BENEFITS. 
          AND WE PROMOTE THOSE. 
          MOST EMPLOYEES DON'T COME THROUGH HERE THAT 200 OR SO, BUT THROUGH THAT BUILDING, THAT'S WHERE HR IS THAT THAT'S WHERE WE'VE GOT INFORMATION AND WE'VE GOT POSTERS AND WE'VE GOT ALL SORTS OF THINGS. 
          OKAY. 
          SO IT IS, YOU GUYS GET TO DECIDE, BUT I DO NEED TO MOVE ON THIS FAIRLY QUICK. 
          IT IS THAT TIME OF THE YEAR. 
          IF NOT, I CAN TELL YOU THAT THESE RATES TODAY WILL NOT HOLD VERY LONG DURING THE BUDGET PROCESS. 
          AGAIN, IT'S NOT ANY MORE IMPACT THAN IT IS ON OUR SYSTEM, ON WHAT WE'VE GOT TODAY AND DURING THE BUDGET PROCESS. 
          AND WE CAN ALWAYS AMEND THIS PROGRAM LATER ON WITHIN A CERTAIN PERIOD OF IF WE WANT IT WITHIN A CERTAIN PARAMETERS. 
          WHAT I MEAN, IF WE WANT TO IMPROVE IT, OR IF YOU WANT TO CHANGE SOMETHING, BUT WE WERE WORKING BECAUSE PEOPLE NOW GET ILL AND THEY TAKE MEDICATIONS. 
          WE'VE BEEN MANAGED. 
          WE WERE ABLE TO GET FDA APPROVED DRUGS OR PHARMACEUTICALS OR PRESCRIPTIONS FROM OTHER COUNTRIES THAT IS NOT PART OF OUR PROGRAM, OUR, OUR BENEFIT PACKAGE. 
          AND IF NOT, THOSE AFFECT OUR RATES, MERIT COMMISSIONERS. 
          SO I DON'T DO THIS IN A SILO. 
          I HAVE DISCUSSIONS WITH MY SENIOR STAFF. 
          I HAVE HR, I'VE GOT FINANCE. 
          AND SOME OF THE FOLKS THAT KNOW MY EMPLOYEES, I KNOW THE EMPLOYEES AFTER SIX AND A HALF YEARS. 
          SO I KNOW WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO GIVE THEM. 
          AND IT'S ALWAYS SOMETHING BETTER. 
          HAVE I ADDRESSED THE QUESTIONS? AND YOU HAVE, YOU DID. 
          UM, BUT GOING BACK TO THE REPS HERE, UM, YOU MENTIONED SOMETHING ABOUT OTHER COMMUNITIES OUT THERE THAT HAVE ALSO, 
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UH, I GUESS, SLOWER TO, OR THEIR, UM, COPAY FOR SPECIALISTS VISITS IS WHAT AN AVERAGE OF A 35. 
          IS THAT WHAT IT IS? OR 35, 25. 
          THERE ARE SOME THAT THEY ACTUALLY LOWER THE PRIMARY CARE. 
          ALSO. 
          IT DEPENDS. 
          SO WHAT THEY DO IS THAT THEIR PLAN IS RUNNING WELL. 
          THEY DON'T WANT TO LOWER RATES BECAUSE THEN TO LOWER RATES FOR THE EMPLOYEE MEANS THAT THE CITY PAYS MORE. 
          SO THEY LEAVE IT ALONE BECAUSE THE RATES ARE GREAT. 
          THEY'RE THERE, BUT THEY ENHANCE THE PROGRAM AND GIVE BETTER BENEFITS TO THE EMPLOYEES. 
          IT'S IF YOU LOOK AT THE AVERAGE, WE DID THE ANALYSIS FOR MR. DELAROSA, HOW MUCH MORE WOULD IT IMPACT, YOU KNOW, ON THE NUMBER OF VISITS, IF YOU LOWERED IT FROM 50 TO 35, AND HE'S LIKE, OKAY, WE ARE HEALTHY FINANCIALLY. 
          WE'RE HEALTHY FOR OUR SELF-INSURED PLAN, IT'S DOABLE. 
          AND IT'S GOING TO HELP OUR EMPLOYEES. 
          THAT WAS WHERE THEY WERE COMING FROM. 
          AND METROLOGY IS CORRECT EVERY YEAR, THROUGHOUT THE YEARS, WHERE EVERY TIME THAT THIS ISSUE COMES UP, WE'LL TRY TO HELP OUR EMPLOYEES. 
          WE GOT TO REMEMBER GUYS, THE SALARY THAT SOME OF THE EMPLOYEES MAKE. 
          THIS GOES A LONG WAYS, WHETHER IT'S 10, $15 AT OR SEVEN AT A COPAY, IT MEANS A LOT. 
          IT GOES A LONG WAYS. 
          SO, UM, YES, WE'VE ALWAYS ASKED, IT'S A GOOD THING TO ENHANCE THE, THE, THE PLAN. 
          AND IF WE'RE DOING GOOD IN GREG, WHY NOT? I THINK IT'S, IT'S A, IT'S A GOOD IDEA WHO WHO'S, UH, THE BROKER FOR THIS PLAN. 
          WE ARE, SIR. 
          IS THERE ANY WAY THE BROKER CAN TAKE ON SOME OF THOSE COSTS? NO, SIR. 
          CAUSE IN THE BEGINNING YOU CAME ON BOARD STATING THAT, YOU KNOW, THEIR RECOMMENDATION WAS FROM YOU, RIGHT? SO IF THE RECOMMENDATIONS FROM YOU AND YOUR BEST INTEREST IS THE HEALTH OF THE STAFF, THEN WHY NOT TAKE ON SOME OF THE COSTS? WE CANNOT DO THAT, SIR. 
          YOU'RE A SELF-INSURED PLAN. 
          HOW MUCH DOES, UH, DOES THE BROKER YET FOR FUNDING THIS PLAN FOR FUNDING, THIS PLAN? UM, WE DON'T, WE DON'T HAVE THE INFORMATION, BUT WE CAN PROVIDE IT FOR YOU WHOLE. 
          YEAH, WE, AND WE HANDLE YOUR MEDICAL PLAN. 
          UM, WHEN YOU GO OUT FOR BID, WE ACT AS YOUR CONSULTANT. 
          UH, WE DON'T CHARGE FOR THAT. 
          WE ANALYZE ALL THE BATES, UH, SPREADSHEET. 
          UM, HOW WOULD WE MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS? WHAT WAS THE MOST RECENT BID? I THINK THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN TWO YEARS AGO, TWO YEARS AGO, WE WENT FULLY OUT, UM, FOR YOUR STOP-LOSS AND YOUR THIRD-PARTY ADMINISTRATORS AND A SHARED BENEFIT ADMINISTRATOR STILL CAME BACK WITH THE, THE, THE LOWEST ADMINISTRATIVE RATES FOR CLAIMS PROCESSING AND THE NETWORK IS ACCESSIBILITY AND SO FORTH. 
          SO WE DO GO AND SHOP IT ALL OUT FOR YOU FOR THE INTEREST OF THE PLAN. 
          WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING. 
          WE DON'T DECIDE WHAT CARRIERS, WE RUBIN, SHOPS IT OUT. 
          CHRIS GETS ALL THE WRITTEN NUMBERS AND PRESENTS IT TO MR. THE LIBERALS ON HIS STAFF. 
          AND THEN THEY'RE THE ONES THAT MAKE THE RECOMMENDATIONS. 
          AND WE COME UP HERE AND GIVE YOU ALL THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT HE, THEY DECIDE ON. 
          OKAY. 
          YOU MENTIONED A DEDUCTIBLE. 
          CAN YOU JUST REMIND ME WHAT THE DEDUCTIBLE IS FOR THE PLAN FOR SINGLE, FOR THE HEALTH SINGLE EMPLOYEE? WE'RE NOT TALKING STOPLIGHTS, WE'RE TALKING TO HEALTH PLAN JUST TO HELP PLAN THAT'S RIGHT HERE. 
          IT IS A $1,500 INDIVIDUAL DEDUCTIBLE WHERE THEY TOTAL FAMILY OUT OF POCKET DEDUCTIBLE OF 3000. 
          YOUR INDIVIDUAL AUTO POCKET IS $3,500. 
          SO THE WORST CASE SCENARIO, IF AN EMPLOYEE HAS A CATASTROPHIC ILLNESS, IS THAT THEY WILL PAY $3,500. 
          THAT IS EXCEPTIONAL. 
          I WILL TELL YOU THAT OURS IS $5,000 WHERE WE WORK AT, AND MOST THEM ARE AVERAGING 6,000, $250. 
          SO YOU ALL HAVE A VERY GOOD BENEFIT PACKAGE THAT WE HAVE, UH, TOLD MR. LATERAL SAID, THE MORE YOU ENHANCE ALL YOUR BENEFITS, THE, THE THAT'S A LOT OF MONEY THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU MIGHT NOT PAY IT IN SALARY, BUT IT'S A DOLLAR AMOUNT THAT THEY'RE GETTING IN BENEFITS THAT YOU KNOW WHAT, I'M NOT GOING TO GO FOR A DOLLAR MORE, $2 MORE SOMEWHERE ELSE, BECAUSE MY BENEFIT PACKAGE IS SO RICH WITH THE CITY OF SAN BENITO. 
          SO THAT'S, THAT'S OUR GOAL IS TO BE ABLE TO GIVE YOU ALL GOOD BENEFITS FOR YOUR EMPLOYEES. 
          SO YOU ALL CAN RETAIN YOUR EMPLOYEES. 
          IT DID WE THINK ABOUT, UM, LOWERING OR RAISING THE INCENTIVE FOR AN ANNUAL SCREENING? I MEAN, WE'RE COMING OUT OF A PANDEMIC. 
          MOST PEOPLE HAVE NOT BEEN VISITING THE JAMS. THEY HAVEN'T BEEN VISITING THEIR PRIMARY CARE DOCTORS, AN ANNUAL HEALTH FAIR FOR AN ANNUAL CHECKUP, I THINK WOULD BE THE BEST INCENTIVE VERSUS A SPECIALIST TO SEE MY EYES. 
          BUT THE SPECIALIST DOESN'T CARE WHAT MY HEART, MY LIVER AND MY KIDNEY LOOKS LIKE MY PRIMARY CARE DOCTOR DOES AND ALL THOSE LABS, WELL, WE CAN, WE CAN ENHANCE IT IF YOU ALL REQUEST, BUT THAT $150 INCENTIVE, IT'S NOT JUST BASED ON LABS. 
          THEY ACTUALLY HAVE TO GO IN AND GET THEIR ANNUAL EXAM. 
          IT'S A QUESTIONNAIRE. 
          THE DOCTOR FILLS OUT ALL THE STUFF HAS THE RESULTS, EVERYTHING. 
          AND THEN THEY SUBMIT FOR THE ONE 50. 
          SO IT'S NOT JUST, IT'S NOT JUST LABS. 
          THAT'S WHAT I LIKE. 
          YES, IT HAS TO BE A THOROUGH. 
          AND THIS WAS, YOU 
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ALL HAD THIS PROGRAM SINCE WE, BEFORE SIX YEARS AGO THAT WE CAME ON BOARD AND TML WAS DOING IT. 
          SO THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS MR. THAT ROSE HAS SAID, UM, WE WANT THIS, BUT YOU ALL NEED TO CONTINUE TO INCENTIVE. 
          WE NEED TO INCENTIVIZE THE EMPLOYEES TO GO GET THEIR FULL ANNUAL WELLNESS CHECKUP, NOT JUST LABS. 
          SO, UM, THAT'S WHAT THE CITY HAS. 
          IT'S $150. 
          THAT WOULD BE TOTALLY UP TO YOU ALL. 
          IF YOU ALL CHOSE TO UP THAT AMOUNT, I FEEL LIKE IT'S A WAY OF HELPING THE EMPLOYEES, BUT IT'S KIND OF LIKE, IT HELPS A SELECT FEW. 
          IT DOESN'T HELP THEM ALL. 
          SO IT PUTS ME IN A TERRIBLE SPOT AND IT'S, I FEEL LIKE IT'S KIND OF LIKE, WE'LL GIVE YOU THIS, BUT IT'S NOT REALLY ANYTHING. 
          IT'S JUST LIKE, WE'RE GOING TO GIVE YOU THIS, OR WE'LL RECOMMEND THIS. 
          I NEED MORE SUBSTANCE. 
          AND FOR FAIRNESS ACROSS ALL EMPLOYEES, BUT THIS EITHER IS IT THIS COMING FROM THE EMPLOYEES, COMMISSIONER, THEY'RE PRESENTING ALL OF THE EMPLOYEES RAISE CONCERNS, YOU KNOW, WHO THEY RAISE CONCERNS WITH. 
          IT'S THEIR BOSSES THAT GETS TO HR, WHICH MAKES IT TO ME. 
          IT'S EVERYBODY AROUND ME BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, IF THEY CAN'T REACH ME, THEY REACH SOMEBODY AROUND ME AND THEY TELL ME, IT IS AS MS. MS. MCGINNIS. 
          SHE'S ONE OF THE, ONE OF THE BIGGEST ADVOCATES FOR THOSE EMPLOYEE RIGHTS. 
          I KNOW. 
          SO IT, TRUST ME, IT DOESN'T GO ON HER IF YOU'VE EVER BEEN AROUND RUTH, WHEN SHE'S TRYING TO TELL YOU SOMETHING. 
          YEAH. 
          YOU HEAR THINGS. 
          SO IT'S A CONSENSUS OF, OF SOME MAJORITY OF THE STAFF THAT, BUT MOST OF OUR EMPLOYEES, THE GUYS THAT NEED THESE SERVICES, AREN'T GOING TO, THEY DON'T HAVE, SO THERE'S, THERE'S A 99. 
          YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT OFFICE VISITS. 
          DO YOU HAVE, HOW MANY EMPLOYEES TOOK ADVANTAGE OF THIS? I'M SORRY, WHAT WAS THAT? THERE'S 99 SPECIALISTS OFFICE VISITS. 
          DO YOU HAVE ON HOW MANY EMPLOYEES TAKE ADVANTAGE OF IT? IS IT 10 EMPLOYEES TAKING ADVANTAGE OF, OR NOT ADVANTAGED, BUT USING THE SPECIALIST VISITS? SO, BUT NOT EVERYBODY NEEDS ONE ON A DAILY BASIS. 
          EXACTLY. 
          SO I WANT EVERYBODY TO BENEFIT FROM HEALTH CARE, NOT JUST THE, THAT WOULD BE THEIR CHOICE FOR, THEY WANT TO GO TO IT'S LIKE YOU CAN'T, IT WILL BENEFIT US IN THE LONG RUN BECAUSE WE'RE SELF-FUNDED PLAN. 
          DO YOU UNDERSTAND THAT? I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT YOU'RE ENCOURAGING THEM TO SEE A SPECIALIST MORE OFTEN, WHICH HAS A HIGHER REIMBURSEMENT, WHICH CITY WILL HAVE TO PAY FOR YOU UNDERSTAND THAT THAT'S NOT THE CASE. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          SO MAY I REMIND, I GET, I THINK WHAT I'M HEARING IS THAT THE COMMISSIONER WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT, UH, APPROVE THIS WITH THE CONDITION THAT THE, THAT THE SPECIALIST STAYS AT $50. 
          UH, I JUST NEED TO KNOW EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO. 
          NO, UH, I WOULD LIKE TO MOTION THAT THE, YOU KNOW, THE SPECIALIST VISITS STAY THE SAME. 
          IT'S IT'S AVERAGE BLUE CROSS BLUE SHIELD IS A LARGE AND IN HEALTH INSURANCE PROVIDES BENEFITS, RIGHT? $55 IS QUITE COMMON IN THE INDUSTRY FOR SPECIALIST VISITS. 
          UM, I WOULD RECOMMEND RECOMMEND THAT THE REIMBURSEMENT FOR AN ANNUAL HEALTH SCREENING WOULD GO UP TO $200 OR YOU, IF YOU WANT IT TO BE, SAY $15, CAUSE THAT'S THE NUMBER YOU'RE USING, MAKE IT GO UP $15 AND THEN REALLY DRIVE THOSE NUMBERS. 
          THAT WOULD BE MY RECOMMENDATION. 
          A GENERAL HEALTHY STAFF IS EVERYBODY'S GOING TO, THEIR ANNUAL VISITS IS GOING TO HAVE, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A GREATER RETURN, I THINK. 
          BUT THE THING IS A WHATEVER MOTION YOU MAKE, IT'LL BE DONE. 
          THEY'LL ADJUST THEIR FEES ACCORDINGLY. 
          AND THAT'S WHAT YOU'LL BE SIGNING THE CONTRACT FOR MAYOR BASED ON THOSE CONDITIONS. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT'S HIS MOTION. 
          THAT'S HIS MOTION NEEDS TO BE SECOND. 
          SO, OR MAKE SOME KIND OF MOTION ON THE TABLE TO BE CLEAR. 
          THE MOTION IS I WON'T, I DON'T WANT TO CHANGE THE SPECIALIST OFFICE VISITS. 
          I WOULD LIKE TO CHANGE THE REIMBURSEMENT FROM THE CITY SIDE ON THE ANNUAL HEALTH SCREENING UP FROM, IT WAS ONE 50. 
          IF YOU WANT TO INCREASE IT TO 1 75, 20 $5 MORE. 
          SO IT'S NOT GOING TO BE 200 ANYMORE. 
          IT'S GOING TO BE 1 75 NOW. 
          OH, THEY SAID IT WAS ONE 50. 
          THE REIMBURSEMENT. 
          OH, THE ANNUAL YOU MENTIONED 200. 
          YES, SIR. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          NO. 
          OH, YOU'RE CONFUSED. 
          I ALSO TO BE FAIR, I DIDN'T WANT TO INCREMENT THE ADDITIONAL COST TO THE CITY AND THE ADDITIONAL $50. 
          I WANT TO SEE IF MAYBE YOU GUYS WOULD BE WILLING TO, YOU KNOW, MAYBE DO WE MEET IN THE MIDDLE OF 1 75, 200, BUT IF TWO HUNDREDS THE DEAL, WE CAN GO WITH 200, $200 REIMBURSEMENT TO THE EMPLOYEE FOR GETTING THEIR ANNUAL HEALTH SCREENING. 
          THAT'S AN ADDITIONAL $50 BACK IN EVERY EMPLOYEE'S POCKET. 
          WOULD THAT BE DOABLE? ANY MAYOR WITHOUT SEEING THE NUMBERS? SO I COULD BREAK DOWN THE COST FOR YOU. 
          WE HAVE, UM, 190 EMPLOYEES GIVE OR TAKE TIMES. 
          YES. 
          AND UNFORTUNATELY WE CAN'T USE YOUR NUMBERS. 
          IT'S GOING TO COME FROM THESE PROFESSIONALS. 
          A STANDARD IS $38,000. 
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YOU JUST TELL US WHAT YOU WANT AND WE'LL MAKE IT, YOU KNOW, AND WE DON'T HAVE THAT MANY EMPLOYEES. 
          WE HAVE MAYBE LIKE 1 20, 1 96. 
          WE HAVE NO SAY PRICE 1 96 TIMES, ONE 20 TIMES, 200. 
          WHAT'S THE, WHAT'S THE MOTION ON THE TABLE? HOLD ON, HOLD ON. 
          W W $39,200 IS THE, IS WHAT THE CITY WILL HAVE TO PAY. 
          IF EVERY EMPLOYEE TOOK THEIR, DID THEIR ANNUAL HEALTH SCREENING, ALMOST $39,200. 
          IF WE HAVE 196 EMPLOYEES, THEY EACH DID THEIR HEALTH SCREENING AND THAT'LL BE $200 BACK IN THE EMPLOYEE'S POCKET. 
          UNFORTUNATELY, YOUR NUMBERS ARE NOT THE CORRECT ONES. 
          YOU HAVE TO GO BY THAT. 
          BUT A GENTLEMEN, I'M NOT MAKING UP NUMBERS. 
          WE HAVE 196 EMPLOYEES AND WE HAVE A $200 REIMBURSEMENT. 
          IS THE RECOMMENDATION 39,201 HERE. 
          YEAH, THAT WOULD BE AN ADDITION BECAUSE WE NOW HAVE TO GET THE TOTAL NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES THAT ACTUALLY HAVE RECEIVED $150 REIMBURSEMENT. 
          SO WE WOULD HAVE TO NOW DO THE NUMBERS WITH THE DIFFERENCE ALSO. 
          UH, SO, SO JUST, JUST FOR THE RECORD, UM, WITH THE 99 OFFICE VISITS THAT WE HAD THROUGH JUNE, HAD YOU HAD THE DEDUCTIBLE OR THE CO-PAY AT 35, THE $15 DIFFERENCE TIMES 99 WOULD HAVE BEEN, UM, ABOUT $1,485, MORE, MORE, MORE COST TO THE CITY, UH, WITH THAT FOR THE 99 VISITS. 
          BUT I UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU'RE SAYING MR. GALVAN IS THAT TO LOWER. 
          THE, THE COPAY, UM, MIGHT SEND A MESSAGE THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S EASIER, UM, YOU KNOW, TO ACCESS, UH, SPECIALTY, UH, BUT BY THE SAME TOKEN, FOR SOME PEOPLE THAT CAN'T AFFORD IT, THOSE, THOSE, LET ME GIVE A PRETTY GOOD EXAMPLE. 
          SOMEONE THAT DOESN'T HAVE HEALTH INSURANCE, THEY GO TO A PRIMARY CARE DOCTOR. 
          OKAY. 
          LET ME SEE YOUR INSURANCE AND HOME INSURANCE. 
          CAN'T SEE YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          IT'S 50 BUCKS. 
          LET ME GET MY CAR AND GO TO THE ER, YOU CAN'T REFUSE SERVICE TO THE ER, RIGHT? THEY GET IN THERE FOR FREE. 
          SO WHY DO THEY GO STRAIGHT TO THE ER? I SEE PEOPLE GO TO THE ER, I SEE PEOPLE GO TO THE ER FOR UPSET STOMACH. 
          WELL THE CITY, THE CITY THIS PAST YEAR, CAUSE IT'S EASIER AND IT'S FREE THIS PAST YEAR THROUGH JUNE 22ND. 
          ITEM NUMBER SEVEN ON THE AGENDA DEAL SPECIFICALLY WITH APPROVING A REDUCTION IN THE CURTIS SPECIALIST, OFFICE COPAY. 
          THERE'S NOTHING ON THE AGENDA ABOUT ANNUAL MEDICAL OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. 
          SO THE WAY THIS ITEM IS WRITTEN ON THE AGENDA, THE ITEM BEFORE THE COMMISSION DEALS WITH REDUCING THE SPECIALISTS HOLDING. 
          THANK YOU, MARK SAUL. 
          I'LL GO AHEAD AND FIX MY MOTION. 
          MY MOTION IS TO NOT APPROVE THIS AND TO LOOK BACK AT HOW WE CAN INCREASE THE ANNUAL HEALTH REIMBURSEMENT. 
          THANKS MARK. 
          OKAY. 
          SO WE GOT A MOTION OF, UH, UH, DENYING, DENYING THIS FROM A 52 35. 
          OKAY. 
          SO I GET THE FROM A, CAN WE SHARE? CAUSE ONE CHICKEN I'LL SECOND IT OKAY. 
          ALL IN FAVOR. 
          ANY NAYS? OKAY. 
          SO WE GOT THE TWO YEARS AND TWO DAYS IT'S COMING FROM THE HOUSE. 
          SO SECOND I'LL, UH, I'LL MAKE A SECOND MOTION. 
          I'LL MAKE, I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ACCEPT THE MOTION AS PRESENTED AND LET THE EXPERTS AND THE CITY STAFF. 
          UH, I REMIND HIM WHAT IS THAT THEY WANT TO ENHANCE THE, THE, THEIR, THEIR HEALTH COSTS AND BENEFITS. 
          THAT IS MY MOTION. 
          OKAY, COME BACK AGAIN. 
          YOU WANT TO, UM, TO APPROVE WHAT, WHAT, WHAT SR FROM THE FIFTIES, BY THE EXPERTS AND CITY STAFF, AND THEN TO ENHANCE THE PROGRAM AND BETTER, BETTER BENEFITS WAS TO BRING STDS. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          COMMISSIONER, THE AGENDA ITEM IS EITHER TO REDUCE THE CURRENT SPECIALIST'S PLAN PERIOD. 
          SO LET ME CAUTION YOU. 
          THIS IS THE RENEWAL. 
          IF IT DOESN'T PASS SOMETHING TONIGHT, YOU JEOPARDIZE OUR COMMISSIONER. 
          WHAT I'M SAYING IS IF YOU DON'T DO THIS FAIRLY QUICK, YOUR RATES WILL BE CHANGING. 
          I ASSURE YOU. 
          I RE I HAVE INFORMATION YOU DO NOT HAVE. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT IS SIR. 
          THAT'S MY JOB. 
          THANK YOU. 
          MA'AM. 
          AND FOR NOW MANY, GIVE US A MONTH BEFORE ALL THIS COMES ABOUT THE MAYOR. 
          THIS JUST OCCURRED THERE. 
          ISN'T THAT KIND OF TIME. 
          IT'S, IT'S ALWAYS, IT'S ALWAYS THIS MONEY. 
          IT'S ALWAYS THIS AT THE END OF THE MONTH. 
          OKAY. 
          SO WE'VE GOT A MOTION RIGHT NOW, UM, BY COMMISSIONER, UH, MAYOR PORTEND, UH, FRANCO TO KEEP IT, UH, THE WAY IT'S PRESENTED OR 53 35. 
          DO I HAVE A SECOND, A SECOND THAT THEY GET A SECOND. 
          SORRY, I GOT THE COMMISSIONER. 
          UH, YOU HAVE FRANKLIN AND THEN A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER GARCIA. 
          ALL IN FAVOR. 
          AYE. 
          OKAY, 
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NOW I'LL DO IT. 
          UH, I'LL I'LL VOTE FOR THIS, BUT I WANTED A MONTH BEFORE ON THIS FOR NEXT YEAR. 
          SO WE GOT THE THREE YEARS AND ONE NAME, MOTION PASSES. 
          [8. Consideration and possible action to continue with the current City of San Benito’s Major Medical Group Health Plan through Assured Benefits Administrators and Stop Loss through Ironshore Indemnity for Fiscal Year 2022-2023.]
YEAH, I REMEMBER RIGHT CONSIDERATION POSSIBLE ACTION TO CONTINUE CURRENT THE CITY OF SAN BENITO MAJOR MEDICAL GROUP HEALTH PLAN THROUGH A SHIRT, BENEFITS ADMINISTRATORS AND STOP LOSS THROUGH A IRON SHORE IDENT EMPTY AND A PHYSICAL YEAR, 2022 TO 2023, MR. RUBEN GARZA PRESENTED AT HIM. 
          THANK YOU, MAYOR COMMISSIONERS. 
          UM, ABA, UM, HAD THE RENEWAL, UH, READY, UH, IN PLENTY OF TIME, AS YOU KNOW, THE GROUP COMES UP FOR RENEWAL OCTOBER. 
          SO AS SOON AS WE HAD THE RENEWAL, WHICH WAS IN EARLY AUGUST, I MEAN IN, UH, LATE JULY IN JUNE, SORRY, WE WERE ABLE TO, TO BRING IT TO THE CITY. 
          UM, THEY, YOU HAD A RELATIVELY, RELATIVELY, UH, STABLE YEAR. 
          YOU HAD SOME CLAIMS, UM, THE RENEWAL WAS GOING TO COME BACK WITH ABOUT A 1% SAVINGS. 
          UH, AND AT THE LAST MINUTE, JUST TO, UH, SORT OF DEFER, I KNOW THAT THAT, UH, MR. DELAROSA MENTIONED SOMETHING HAPPENED AT THE LAST MINUTE. 
          SOMETHING DID HAPPEN AT THE LAST MINUTE, A LARGE POTENTIAL CLAIM HIT THE PLAN. 
          OKAY. 
          WE NEVER KNOW WHEN THIS IS GOING TO HAPPEN. 
          UM, SO THE WAY, THE WAY THE CARRIER WORKS OR ABA WILL GIVE US THE RENEWAL AND THEY GIVE US A SET AMOUNT OF TIME TO APPROVE IT WITH THE CLAIMS THEY HAVE IN HAND AT THAT TIME. 
          SO WE WERE READY TO APPROVE IT BECAUSE IT WAS A GOOD RENEWAL. 
          NOW THE PLAN GETS HIT BY A LARGE CLAIM AND WE CAN'T SPEAK TO IT BECAUSE OF PRIVATE HEALTH INFORMATION, BUT THE PLAN GETS HIT WITH, UH, WITH, UH, WITH WHAT COULD BE A LARGE CLAIM. 
          AND SO THE STOP-LOSS CARRIER CAN THEN, YOU KNOW, CHANGE THE RATES ON US. 
          SO WE NEED TO APPROVE, UH, THE INITIAL OFFERING THAT WE RECEIVED. 
          NOT BECAUSE WE'RE TRYING TO GIVE IT TO YOU AT THE LAST MINUTE. 
          UH, AS SOON AS WE HAD THAT RENEWAL, WE WERE ALREADY HERE DISCUSSING IT, UH, WITH THE CITY. 
          UM, WHAT WE DID NOT ANTICIPATE IS THAT WE HAD ONE SICK INDIVIDUAL THAT POPPED ON THE RADAR LAST WEEK. 
          AND SO WE NEED TO REACT TO THAT. 
          I KNOW HE MENTIONED, AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT IT HERE SHORTLY. 
          WE MENTIONED, UH, YOU KNOW, USING, UH, UH, AN FDA APPROVED CANADIAN SPECIALTY MEDICATION. 
          WE HAD TO THINK OUTSIDE THE BOX BECAUSE THE MEDICATION, UH, FOR THIS INDIVIDUAL WILL COME IN AT ABOUT $15,000 A MONTH. 
          OKAY. 
          SO ALREADY WE HAVE ALREADY, WE HAVE IDENTIFIED A WAY TO ELIMINATE THAT COST FOR, FOR THE FIRST MONTH. 
          AND WE'RE WORKING ON A PLAN TO CUT THAT 15,000, HOPEFULLY IN LESS THAN HALF OR MORE, UH, THROUGH THE USE OF THIS FDA APPROVED CANADIAN, UM, SPECIALTY, UM, UH, PHARMACY BENEFIT MANAGER. 
          UH, SO WE'LL CAN TALK ABOUT THIS IF WE WANT TO PROCEED WITH THE PRESENTATION, UH, REAL QUICK, WHICH ONE IS IT? OH, BUT THE BATTERIES WERE THROWN OUT. 
          NO, LET ME, LET ME SEE IF THE BATTERIES ARE CHICKEN. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THE PLAN AS PRESENTED INITIALLY TO, TO THE CITY BY ABA, UH, PROPOSED A 1% SAVINGS, UH, OF THE ANNUAL MAXIMUM, MAXIMUM COST OVER CURRENT. 
          OKAY. 
          SO STILL A SAVINGS, UH, RENEWAL RATES FOR EMPLOYEES WILL REMAIN THE SAME, BUT AGAIN, AS DEBBIE SAID, UH, THE CITY DECIDES WHAT THOSE RATES ARE GOING TO BE. 
          OKAY. 
          YOU IT'S YOUR PLAN. 
          YOU CAN SET THOSE RATES WHERE YOU WANT UH, WE'RE WE'RE UM, WE'RE HAPPY THAT THOSE RATES HAVE NOT CHANGED IN SIX YEARS. 
          UH, BASICALLY THE RATES FOR EMPLOYEES HAVE, HAVE BEEN FROZEN BY THE CITY, UH, FOR THE SELF-FUNDED HEALTH PLAN OVER THE LAST SIX YEARS, STOP LOSS INSURANCE, UH, WILL REMAIN WITH IRONSHORE INDEMNITY THERE. 
          THE CURRENT STOP-LOSS CARRIER, THEY OFFERED THE BEST OPTION, UH, PREVIOUS TO THIS CLAIM. 
          AND, UH, CURRENTLY THE STOP-LOSS OR THE DEDUCTIBLE FOR THE STOP LOSS IS 50,000 FOR THE INDIVIDUAL. 
          THE CITY IS, UH, PICKING UP THE COST OF THE FIRST 50,000 FOR ANY LARGE CLAIM. 
          UH, ANYTHING OVER THAT 50,000, THE STOP LOSS PICKS UP, UM, SAVE FOR THAT ONE INDIVIDUAL THAT JUST CAME ON THE RADAR, THE STOP-LOSS CARRIER SET THAT INDIVIDUAL STOP LOSS AT ONE 50. 
          SO IT'S A NET, A HUNDRED THOUSAND OVER THE STANDARD $50,000 DEDUCTIBLE. 
          SO THE CITY WOULD HAVE TO PICK UP THE FIRST 150 FOR THAT ONE EMPLOYEE IN PARTICULAR, THE REST STAY AT 50. 
          OKAY. 
          NOW WHEN YOU MULTIPLY 50,000 TIMES 190 EMPLOYEES, YOU'RE LIKE, OH MY GOD, THAT'S GOING TO BE, UH, EXCESSIVE. 
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THAT'S WHAT THE AGGREGATE STOP-LOSS IS FOR. 
          AND YOU DO HAVE THAT IN PLACE THAT CAPS YOU, UH, AND IT BASICALLY JUST TO SIMPLIFY IT, IT BASICALLY CAPS YOU AT WHAT THE ANNUAL MAXIMUM IS, WHICH IS THE EMPLOYEE RATE TIMES, THE NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES, TIMES 12 MONTHS, THAT'S YOUR MAXIMUM LIABILITY THERE, WHICH IS IN THE $800,000 RANGE. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, SO ONE STOP LOSS CLAIM AND THAT FINAL BULLET THAT, THAT POPPED UP, UH, I'M SORRY, ONCE ONE STOP LOSS CLAIM THAT HIT THIS PAST YEAR. 
          UM, FORTUNATELY I THINK THE YEAR BEFORE WE HAD TO, UH, THIS YEAR, WE ONLY HAD ONE THROUGH JUNE OF 2022. 
          AND THAT CLAIM WAS, UH, AT 91,000 9, 27. 
          UH, THE CITY WAS REIMBURSED 41,000 9, 27. 
          OKAY. 
          SO WE PICKED UP THE FIRST 50, AND THEN YOU WERE REIMBURSED THE DIFFERENCE. 
          NEXT SLIDE. 
          THANK YOU, RUTH. 
          THE PHARMACY PLAN, UH, IS WITH A MEDALIST. 
          THAT'S YOUR PBM OR PHARMACY BENEFIT MANAGER. 
          THEY ADMINISTER YOUR PHARMACY PLAN. 
          WE MOVED OVER, UH, TO MEDALIST IN 2020 FROM WELLDYNE YOUR SPEND ON JUST DRUGS IN, UM, IN 2020 THROUGH JUNE, UH, WAS 80 3004 68. 
          AND IN 2021 WITH MEDALIST, THAT COST CAME DOWN TO 53, 5 63, UH, IN JUNE OF 2021. 
          YEAH. 
          THROUGH THE END OF JUNE, 2021, HE CAME IN AT 50 3005 63. 
          UH, SO FOR A SAVINGS OF ABOUT $30,000, UH, THIS YEAR WITH MEDALIST, UH, THE PLANT'S DEERFIELD STEER AFFAIR, UH, STILL FARED WELL, UM, BUT THERE WAS AN INCREASE FROM 53 IN 2021. 
          YOU WENT UP TO 69, 8 66 IN 2022. 
          AND, UH, SOME OF THE REASONS FOR THAT INCLUDED, UH, AN INCREASE IN EMPLOYEE COUNT, UM, YOUR OVERALL CLAIM COUNT INCREASED FROM 7 76 TO 1154. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THAT, THAT IS BECAUSE YOU JUST HIRED, YOU HAD MORE EMPLOYEES THAN THE PRIOR YEAR. 
          UH, ALSO THE, THE BRAND, UH, DRUG CLAIM INCREASED FROM 94 PRESCRIPTIONS TO 280 11. 
          UM, ANTIDIABETIC CATEGORY INCREASED FROM 17,689 TO 38,000 3 51. 
          SO I THINK THAT'S A POSSIBLE PLACE WE CAN FOCUS ON, UM, TO, TO MINIMIZE COSTS IN THE DIABETIC CATEGORY. 
          AND THEN OF COURSE, VACCINES, UH, BECAUSE OF COVID YOU HAD, UM, 1383 THE YEAR BEFORE THAT, AND THIS PAST YEAR WAS, UH, 47 22. 
          SO THAT WOULD BE THE REASON THAT, UH, MEDALISTS WASN'T ABLE TO PROVIDE AS DEEP A SAVINGS AS IN 2021, BUT NEV YEAH, UH, 20, 21, BUT NONETHELESS, UM, UH, STILL A SAVINGS OVER WHERE YOU WERE PREVIOUSLY WITH WELLDYNE OKAY. 
          THIS IS A HISTORICAL COST COMPARISON, UM, FROM FISCAL YEAR 2017. 
          UM, AND THAT SHOULD BE TO 2021. 
          I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT. 
          UH, IF YOU LOOK ON THE LEFT SIDE, UM, WHEN WE MOVED TO ABA BACK IN 2017, UH, ABA TOOK THE BAIT AT THE TIME. 
          I THINK HUMANA AND THEN WERE THE FINALISTS, BUT ABA TOOK, TOOK THE, TOOK THE BID BECAUSE THEY CAME AT 820,000 6 83 FOR OVERALL COSTS MAXIMUM TO THE CITY OVER THE COURSE OF A YEAR UNDER TML, THE FULLY INSURED READING, ALL WAS COMING IN AT 945,000. 
          IN ADDITION, WE WENT SELF-FUNDED. 
          SO, UH, WHEN YOU LOOK AT 2018, THAT WENT DOWN, YOUR ACTUAL COST TO THE PLAN WAS 685, 3 45. 
          IF YOU ASSIGNED WHAT WE CALL, UH, AN JUST AN INCREASE. 
          I MEAN, NOT EVEN TREND BECAUSE IN FULLY INSURED, THE WAY HEALTH PLANS WORK IS EVERYBODY REALIZES AN INCREASE BASED ON TREND. 
          AND THAT TREND IS RUNNING BETWEEN EIGHT AND 10%. 
          WE ASSIGNED A 3%, WHICH IS VERY CONSERVATIVE. 
          YOU LOOK AT THE BOTTOM AND SAID 3%. 
          AND IF TMLT HAD JUST GIVEN YOU A 3% INCREASE OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS, THAT'S WHERE THE PREMIUM WOULD HAVE BEEN FOR THE CITY FULLY INSURED. 
          UM, SELF-FUNDED WITH ABA, YOU HAVE REMAINED RELATIVELY STABLE IN 2020. 
          WE, WE, WE DID HAVE A BIT OF AN INCREASE TO EIGHT OR NINE STILL WELL BELOW WHAT YOU WOULD HAVE BEEN WITH TML FULLY INSURED. 
          UM, 20, 21, UH, THROUGH JUNE 22ND OR JUNE OF 2022, WE WERE AT 5 61, 7 64 ABA ALSO PUT TOGETHER A FIVE-YEAR TOTAL SPEND, AND THIS IS ANNUALIZED. 
          SO OVER THE FIVE YEARS THAT YOU'VE BEEN WITH ABA, YOUR SPEND HAS BEEN APPROXIMATELY 3 MILLION, $747,000. 
          UH, AND JUST APPLYING THAT CONSERVATIVE 3% ANNUAL INCREASE WITH A FULLY INSURED CARRIER LIKE TML, YOU WOULD HAVE BEEN SPENT, YOU WOULD HAVE SPENT, UH, ABOUT OVER $5 MILLION. 
          AND THESE ARE, THESE ARE ACTUAL NUMBERS AND, AND VERY CONSERVATIVELY, UM, GIVEN TO, FOR THOSE, UH, COMMISSIONERS AND THOSE OF YOU HERE THAT AREN'T FAMILIAR WITH SELF-FUNDED VERSUS FULLY INSURED. 
          UM, 
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THIS IS BASICALLY IN A NUTSHELL OF A SELF-FUNDED PLAN VERSUS A FULLY INSURED PLAN. 
          THE RED BUCKETS ARE FIXED COSTS. 
          SO, SO IF YOU LOOK AT SELF-FUNDED, THE STOP-LOSS AND THE ADMIN FEES, THOSE ARE FIXED COSTS. 
          THOSE HAVE TO BE PAID EVERY MONTH. 
          UH WHAT'S IN THE GREEN BUCKET CLAIMS WHATEVER'S LEFT IN THAT BUCKET AT THE END OF THE YEAR, UNDER A SELF-FUNDED SCENARIO, UH, BELONGS TO THE CITY UNDER FULLY INSURED WHERE THEY WERE PREVIOUSLY, UM, ALL OF IT WAS FIXED COSTS. 
          SO IT DIDN'T MATTER IF YOU PAID, YOU KNOW, 800,000 FOR THE YEAR, UH, AND ONLY 500,000 IN CLAIMS CAME IN. 
          UH, YOU DIDN'T SEE ANY OF THAT MONEY BACK, NO REBATES, NOTHING LIKE THAT. 
          UH, IT WAS ALL TO THE CARRIER. 
          SO STOP LOSS, UH, I MEAN THE FULLY SELF-FUNDED, UH, CA UH, STRATEGY WAS PROBABLY A GOOD WAY TO GO. 
          UH, THIS, THE PLANS HAVE BEEN WORKING WELL AND, UH, AND THE CITY HAS A HEALTHY, UM, UH, FUND. 
          UM, THIS RIGHT HERE WILL SHOW YOU WHAT THE RATES ARE, THE MEDICAL RATES. 
          UH, AGAIN, THESE ARE SET BY THE CITY, THE CITY AT ANY TIME WANTED TO ADJUST THESE, UH, THEY COULD DO SO, BUT, UM, THESE ARE, THESE ARE BASED PRETTY CLOSE, UH, TO WHAT ABA RECOMMENDS, UH, AND, AND, AND THE TOTAL COST DOWN THERE IS PRETTY CLOSE TO WHAT YOUR ANNUAL MAXIMUM LIABILITY THAT'S YOUR WORST CASE SCENARIO TO THE CITY IS IN THE 800,000 RANGE. 
          SO EMPLOYEE ONLY PREMIUM IS 4 44 OF THAT. 
          THE EMPLOYEE PICKS UP 19% FOR A TOTAL OF 84 74. 
          AND THE CITY'S CONTRIBUTION IS 81% FOR A TOTAL OF 3 59 80. 
          YOU MULTIPLY THE AVERAGE NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES THIS YEAR WAS ABOUT 1 94 TO 1 96 AND MULTIPLY THAT BY THE 3 59 TIMES 12 MONTHS. 
          AND THAT GIVES YOU THE, THE, WHAT WE CALL FULLY INSURED EQUIVALENT. 
          UM, IF YOU WERE FULLY INSURED, THAT WOULD BE WHAT YOU WOULD PAY ANNUALLY, AND THAT'S YOUR FULLY INSURED EQUIVALENT, BUT YOU'RE SELF-FUNDED. 
          SO, UH, DOWN AT THE BOTTOM, WE'RE JUST SHOWING YOU WHAT THE, WHAT THE EMPLOYEE COVERAGE TIERS ARE. 
          I KNOW COMMISSIONER GALVAN MENTIONED, YOU KNOW, THE, THE, THE, THE RATES, UH, ARE A LITTLE BIT EXCESSIVE, UH, TO BE ABLE TO GET FAMILY MEMBERS ON. 
          UM, WE DO HAVE TELEMEDICINE THAT'S AVAILABLE TO THE CITY THROUGH ABA THAT'S INCLUDED. 
          UH, AND THE NEAT THING ABOUT YOUR TELEMEDICINE IS THAT IT'S ACTUALLY AVAILABLE TO YOUR FAMILY MEMBERS, WHETHER THEY'RE ON THE PLANT OR NOT. 
          SO IF YOU, IF YOU CAN'T AFFORD YOUR CHILDREN ON THE PLAN, BECAUSE YOU CAN'T AFFORD 3 90, 1 94, AT THE VERY LEAST, EVERYBODY IN THE HOUSEHOLD HAS ACCESS TO THE TELEMEDICINE THROUGH THE CURRENT VENDOR THAT, THAT ABA PUT IN PLACE. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THAT'S THAT SLIDE? UM, THE RECOMMENDATION THAT WE JUST DISCUSSED ON THE PREVIOUS ITEM, UH, WAS TO MODIFY THE SPECIALIST OFFICES FROM 50 TO 35. 
          I JUST DID A ROUGH, UH, IMPACT WHAT THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN HAD. 
          WE HAD THAT 35 IN PLAY, UH, FOR SPECIALIST OFFICE VISITS, YOU HAD 99, UM, AND, AND OVERNIGHT, AND NINE VISITS THAT WOULD HAVE RESULTED IN ABOUT, UM, $1,485 ADDITIONAL COST TO THE CITY. 
          UH, AGAIN, MAKING THE SPECIALIST A LITTLE BIT MORE ACCESSIBLE, UH, BUT ALSO TO YOUR POINT, UH, COMMISSIONER GALVAN, I, I SEE YOUR POINT AS WELL, WHERE IT COULD BE PERCEIVED AS I'LL JUST GO TO THE SPECIALIST. 
          SO, UM, NEXT SLIDE WOULD BE THE DENTAL VISION ENHANCEMENTS. 
          UH, THESE WERE MADE LAST YEAR, BUT WE WANT IT TO JUST SOME OF THEM HAPPENED, UM, IN THE COURSE OF THE ENROLLMENT. 
          SO WE WANTED TO BRING THEM UP AGAIN, THE DENTAL PLAN ANNUAL MAX WAS INCREASED FROM A THOUSAND DOLLARS TO $1,500. 
          SO NOW THE EMPLOYEES, AND THAT WAS NO CHANGE TO THE PREMIUM. 
          I MEAN, THE EMPLOYEES DIDN'T EXPERIENCE ANY INCREASE TO THEIR, TO THEIR DENTAL PLAN. 
          THEY JUST HAD MORE TO SPEND FOR THE YEAR. 
          UH, AND THEN ON THE VISION PLAN ALSO FOR NO ADDITIONAL COST TO THE EMPLOYEES ON THE, ON THEIR VOLUNTARY VISION PLAN, UH, WE WERE ABLE TO, UH, INCREASE OR TO MODIFY THE PLAN TO COVER FRAMES YOUR EYEGLASS FRAMES ONCE A YEAR, RATHER THAN ONCE EVERY TWO YEARS. 
          SO THAT WAS AN ENHANCEMENT LAST YEAR. 
          AND THEN, UM, UH, WE ALSO CHANGED FROM METLIFE, UH, TO AMERITAS ON THE DENTAL AND VISION FOR BETTER NETWORK ACCESS. 
          UM, THE NEXT SLIDE, LIFE AND DISABILITY THROUGH MUTUAL OF OMAHA, THE CARRIER WILL HOLD THE RATES AGAIN THIS YEAR. 
          SO THERE'S NO RECOMMENDATION TO GO ANYWHERE. 
          MATTER OF FACT, LAST YEAR, UH, MR. GALVAN WAS VISITING, UH, DURING OPEN ENROLLMENT AND, UH, AND ASKED, HEY, YOU KNOW, $10,000, THAT'S NOT A LOT. 
          IS THERE A WAY YOU CAN DOUBLE THAT? AND SO I, WE SAID IT DOESN'T HURT TO ASK THE CARRIER, THE COST TO THE CITY FOR BUYING BASIC LIFE AND A D AND D FOR ALL THEIR 196 EMPLOYEES IS ABOUT $400 A MONTH. 
          OKAY. 
          AND AT THAT, THE CARRIER WAS STILL WILLING TO DOUBLE THAT AMOUNT TO 20,000. 
          SO, SO THE CARRIER WAS ABLE TO COME TO THE TABLE WITH THAT, AND WE CHANGED IT MID, MID ENROLLMENT, MID OPEN ENROLLMENT. 
          UH, SO THE EMPLOYEES WERE ABLE TO DOUBLE BASICALLY WHAT THEY'RE GETTING WITH NO COST TO THE CITY, VOLUNTARY LIFE D AND D AVAILABLE UP TO 300,000. 
          UH, THAT'S NOT CHANGING VOLUNTARY SHORT-TERM AND LONG-TERM DISABILITY ALSO NO CHANGE TO THOSE RATES. 
          THOSE ARE STATIC. 
          SO WE, WE, WE JUST CONTINUE WITH THE SAME CARRIER UNDER THE SAME CONDITIONS, THE SUPPLEMENTAL PRODUCTS. 
          UH, ONE THING THAT WE, 
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THAT LONE STAR DOES A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT IS WE, WE TRY NOT TO SHOP THESE PRODUCTS OUT. 
          SO WHEN WE, WHEN WE SELL THESE PRODUCTS TO EMPLOYEES, WE, WE, WE TAKE WHAT WE CALL A LEVEL COMMISSION, THE BROKERS THAT SELL THESE TYPE OF PRODUCTS. 
          THEY A LOT OF TIMES ON PUBLIC ENTITIES BECAUSE THEY DON'T KNOW IF THEY'RE GOING TO BE IN ONE YEAR AND NOT THE NEXT, THEY WILL ALWAYS OPT TO GO WITH HEAPED COMMISSIONS, WHICH IS HIGH FIRST YEAR AND ALMOST NOTHING AFTER THAT. 
          SO YOU FIND YOURSELF SHOPPING EVERY TWO OR THREE YEARS TO REPLACE THE PRODUCT WITH THE NEXT CARRIER, SO THAT THEY HAVE ENOUGH MONEY TO SERVICE AND ENROLL THE GROUP. 
          UM, WE JUST TAKE A LOW LEVEL COMMISSION THAT DOESN'T CHANGE. 
          AND SO WE HAVE NO INTENTION OF CHANGING THIS PRODUCT, WHETHER IT'S US OR ANOTHER AGENT THAT TAKES OVER WHEN, WHEN WE'RE GONE, THE EMPLOYEES CAN BENEFIT FROM HAVING THE SAME PRODUCT AT THE SAME RATE THAT IT WAS SOLD AT WHEN WE INITIALLY SOLD IT. 
          SO, UH, ANOTHER BROKER CAN STEP IN AND, AND KEEP THE SAME, WHAT HAPPENS. 
          AND THE REASON WE DO THAT IS BECAUSE, UM, THE EMPLOYEES ARE THE ONES THAT END UP, UH, BEING LEFT, HOLDING THE BAG, BECAUSE IF THREE YEARS FROM NOW, I DECIDED I WANT TO CHANGE IT. 
          AND I CONVINCED THE COMMISSION TO CHANGE THAT WELL, THAT EMPLOYEE HAS TO GET RID OF THEIR PRODUCT AND BUY IT AGAIN. 
          THREE YEARS LATER, THEY'RE THREE YEARS OLDER. 
          THEIR PRICE HAS GONE UP AND EVERY YEAR YOU KEEP DOING THAT TO THEM, AND IT'S JUST A VICIOUS CYCLE. 
          SO FOR US, WE MADE THE DECISION EARLY ON AND IT'S WORKED AGAINST US IN SOME MUNICIPALITIES WHERE WE CAME IN AND DID THAT. 
          AND THE NEXT YEAR DUE TO, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, WHATEVER REASON WE'RE, WE'RE NOT THERE ANYMORE. 
          UM, BUT THAT'S WHAT WE DO. 
          WE WANT THE EMPLOYEES TO HAVE THE RATE THAT THEY, THAT THEY RECEIVED INITIALLY AND FOR, FOR IT TO BE STATIC AND NOT CHANGE. 
          SO, UH, THAT'S THE FINAL SLIDE, UH, IF Y'ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. 
          OKAY. 
          ANY QUESTIONS? NO QUESTIONS THEN WHAT, WHAT WOULD, UH, I JUST HAVE A FEW, WHAT WOULD THE ADMIN FEE, THE STOP-LOSS FEE LOOK LIKE IN A FULLY INSURED PLAN? WE DIDN'T SHOP, UH, WE'VE DONE IT BEFORE WHERE WE'VE LOOKED AT FULLY INSURED OFFICERS, BUT THIS YEAR WE DIDN'T SHOP. 
          SO I W I WOULD NEED TO QUOTE IT, TO BE ABLE TO TELL YOU THAT, AND THERE IS NO FEE UNDER, UNDER, UM, WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT ADMIN FEE, I CAN TELL YOU WHAT ABS ADMIN FEE IS. 
          UH, I HAVE IT RIGHT HERE. 
          THEIR ADMIN FEE IS, UH, $20 AND 37 CENTS PER EMPLOYEE PER MONTH. 
          THAT'S THEIR ADMINISTRATIVE FEE TO MANAGE YOUR PLAN. 
          LAST YEAR, IT WAS $19 AND 37 CENTS. 
          AND IT HAD NOT CHANGED IN PROBABLY SINCE THE BEGINNING. 
          SO IT WENT UP A DOLLAR, UM, FOR A TOTAL OF $20 AND 37 CENTS PER EMPLOYEE. 
          SO I SEE THAT, THAT THERE WAS ONE HIGH CLAIMANT, RIGHT. 
          UM, AND WE'RE PAYING AT A STOP LOSS FEE OF $846,249, RIGHT? NO, THE, THE STOP-LOSS, UH, FOR EVERY EMPLOYEE WILL BE 50, BUT FOR THAT ONE EMPLOYEE IN PARTICULAR THAT WE SPOKE ABOUT THAT COULD RESULT IN A HIGH CLAIM. 
          WE DON'T KNOW YET WHERE IT'S GOING. 
          UH, IT JUST HAPPENED SO RECENT. 
          UH, HIS, HIS DEDUCTIBLE WOULD BE ONE 50, 150,000. 
          IT'S, IT'S $50 PER EMPLOYEE PER MONTH. 
          THE STOP LOSS. 
          OH, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE RATE. 
          YEAH. 
          LET ME, LET ME GIVE YOU THE RATE FOR THE STOP LOSS. 
          THE INDIVIDUAL STOP LOSS RATE IS $151 AND 24 CENTS THAT'S PER EMPLOYEE PER MONTH, RIGHT? CORRECT. 
          FOR THE INDIVIDUAL STOP LOSS AND THE AGGREGATE, WHICH COVERS IT'S LIKE THE OVERARCHING UMBRELLA SO THAT YOU DON'T SO THAT IF MULTIPLE EMPLOYEES ARE HITTING THE INDIVIDUAL STOP LOSS, IT CAPS AT A CERTAIN POINT. 
          THAT'S YOUR AGGREGATE. 
          STOP-LOSS THAT ONE IS $3 AND 62 CENTS PER EMPLOYEE, PER MONTH. 
          AND EVERY EMPLOYEE ISN'T NECESSARY TO HAVE EVERYBODY UNDER THE AGGREGATE ALSO. 
          YES. 
          YEAH. 
          THE, WELL, IT'S NOT NECESSARY, BUT, UM, EVERYBODY HAS THE AGGREGATE RIGHT NOW, EVERY EMPLOYEE. 
          SO EVERY, EVERY IT'S NOT GOING TO BE, IT, IT RARELY HAPPENS WHERE YOU HIT THE AG. 
          THAT'S WHY THE AG AGGREGATE DEDUCTIBLE IS SO LOW. 
          IT'S $3 AND 62 CENTS, BECAUSE IT VERY RARELY HAPPENS. 
          UM, AND SO, SO THE CITY IS INSULATED, UH, BASICALLY AT 800, 806,387. 
          THAT'S THE ESTIMATED MAXIMUM COST TO THE CITY IS 806,000 3 87. 
          THAT'S THE ANNUAL MAX COST. 
          THAT'S COMING OUT OF OUR POCKET. 
          REGARDLESS IF WE, THAT YOU'RE, THAT'S THE AVERAGE, THAT'S THE MAX COST TO US. 
          IF EVERYBODY WENT OVER THE STOP-LOSS, IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? CORRECT. 
          THE STOP LOSS PICKS UP EVERYTHING AFTER THAT. 
          SO WHAT I'M GETTING IS WE'RE PAYING ABOUT $400,000 JUST TO HAVE THE INSURANCE INSURANCE ON INSURANCE, RIGHT? CORRECT. 
          CORRECT. 
          OKAY. 
          SO 
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IF WE DIDN'T HAVE THAT INSURANCE, WHAT WOULD THOSE COSTS LOOK LIKE? AND WE SAW THAT WITH ONE CLAIMANT, MAYBE LIKE 150 GRAND, IF YOU DIDN'T HAVE WHAT THE STOP-LOSS, UM, AND STILL BE SELF-FUNDED OR BE FULLY INSURED FUNDED. 
          CAUSE, UH, I ONLY SAW ONE HIGH, OKAY. 
          ONE HIGH CLAIMANT. 
          SO HOW MANY PEOPLE DO YEAH. 
          YOU COULD CONCEIVABLY, YOU COULD CONCEIVABLY SELF-INSURE COMPLETELY JUST DON'T EVEN OFFER A PLAN AND JUST, YOU KNOW, JUST, NO, NO, NO. 
          WE STAY WITH THIS, BUT TAKE OUT THE STOP LOSS. 
          HOW MANY, HOW MANY EMPLOYEES WENT OVER THE 50,001 THIS PAST YEAR? AND THAT, THAT TOTAL TO 150, IT WAS 91. 
          IT WAS 91,000 4, 27 THAT THE CITY SAVED THE CITY PAID 91. 
          WELL, THE CITY PAID 91,000 4, 27, BUT THE STOP-LOSS REIMBURSED 41,000 OF THAT BECAUSE THEY'RE ONLY RESPONSIBLE FOR THE, SO HE GOT REIMBURSED 41. 
          UH, BUT UH, I'M PAYING $400,000 FOR THE INSURANCE. 
          RIGHT. 
          SEE THE RATE OF RETURN. 
          WELL, I MEAN IT, YEAH, WELL THAT'S THE WAY I'M LOOKING AT IT. 
          SO I PURCHASED, I HAVE NO, WELL, NO, THE REALITY IS, IS THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE GET SICK. 
          SO IF YOU DO NOT HAVE, STOP-LOSS FORGET THAT YOU'RE ONLY GOING TO PAY $50,000 FOR REGULAR AND UP TO $150,000 PER EMPLOYEE FOR A CATASTROPHIC, YOU'RE GOING TO BE PAYING 300,800,000. 
          IF YOU HAVE TWO OR THREE OR CLAIMS, EACH OF THEM ARE GOING TO SURPASS A MILLION PER YEAR BECAUSE THAT IS THE AVERAGE. 
          SO YOU NEED TO HAVE STOP-LOSS. 
          YES. 
          LET'S JUST TALK ABOUT THE ONE CASE. 
          WE KNOW. 
          LOOK, Y'ALL BEEN FORTUNATE IN THAT THE CITY HAS BEEN RUNNING WELL, YOU'VE BEEN FORTUNATE, RIGHT? UH, AND, AND WE'VE BANKED ON THE INSURANCE WORLD. 
          INSURANCE COMPANIES ARE SOME OF THE RICHEST COMPANIES IN THE WORLD, BUT THEY'RE, THEY'RE RICH FOR A REASON BECAUSE THEY BASE THEMSELVES ON THE LAW OF LARGE NUMBERS. 
          OKAY. 
          THE LAW OF LARGE NUMBERS SAYS THAT IF YOU HAVE THIS MANY PEOPLE INSURED, WE'RE BANKING ON THAT ONLY THIS MANY ARE GOING TO HAVE CLAIMS. AND SO THAT'S WHERE THEY MAKE THEIR MONEY. 
          THEY KNOW ACTUARIALLY STATISTICALLY SPEAKING, THAT ONLY SO MANY CLAIMS ARE GOING TO OCCUR. 
          AND SO THEY'RE GOING TO MAKE MONEY. 
          SO, SO BASICALLY, UH, IF YOU WANT TO GO FULLY INSURED YOU, I SHOWED YOU THE NUMBERS WHERE YOU WOULD HAVE BEEN POSSIBLY HIGHER BECAUSE WE WENT VERY CONSERVATIVELY AT 3%, BUT LET'S TALK ABOUT THE ONE INDIVIDUAL THAT I BROUGHT UP THAT JUST POPPED UP OUT OF NOWHERE. 
          WE WEREN'T EXPECTING IT, BUT IT POPPED UP. 
          WHAT WE KNOW SO FAR IS THAT MEDICATION WILL COME IN AT ABOUT 15,000 A MONTH. 
          WE DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S THE EXTENT OF THE TREATMENT. 
          WE KNOW THAT'S THE INITIAL RECOMMENDATION BY THE PHYSICIAN, $15,000 A MONTH, TIMES, 12 MONTHS ON ONE CLAIM, IT'S ALREADY SCRATCHING OVER 200. 
          SO, SO, AND THAT'S JUST ONE. 
          SO IF YOU HAVE A FEW OF THOSE, THE FOUR, THE 400,000 FIXED COSTS THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT FOR THIS, A STOP LOSS IS REALLY NOTHING IN IT. 
          WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT IT, IN TERMS OF SEVERAL LARGE CLAIMS WITHOUT MEDICAL CARE, THE GOOD, THE BEST TO BE SAFE THAN SORRY. 
          DO SOME MUNICIPALITIES ENTITIES, DO THEY NOT? DO THEY HAVE A STOP LOSS ONLY FOR A SELECT POPULATE? WELL, YOU CAN TELL THE EMPLOYEES. 
          NO, NO, BECAUSE YOU CAN'T, YOU CAN'T, UH, YOU CAN'T FLY. 
          YEAH. 
          YOU CAN'T BUY IT'S. 
          IT'S LIKE, IT'S LIKE ME SAYING, WELL, YOU KNOW, I ONLY WANT INSURANCE WHEN THE HURRICANE IS COMING, YOU KNOW, I CAN'T, IF I TRY TO BUY FLOOD INSURANCE RIGHT BEFORE THE HURRICANE, WHAT I'M SAYING IS THEY'RE NOT GOING TO SELL IT TO ME IN A WAY TO MAKE YOU WAIT A MONTH. 
          OKAY. 
          I MIGHT NOT BUY FLOOD INSURANCE FOR ALL MY HOMES. 
          RIGHT? MAYBE THE HOME THAT'S IN THE HIGHER RISK GROUP OR NUMBER HIGHER RISK AREA. 
          RIGHT. 
          CAMERON COUNTY. 
          SO WHAT I'M SAYING IS WE HAVE A HIGHER RISK POPULATION, AGE GROUP. 
          CAN WE BUY STOP LOSS FOR THAT HIGHER AGE RISK GROUP VERSUS A STOP LOSS STOP LOSS? COULD WE DO IT? YOU COULD, BUT YOU'RE TELLING ME NO, BECAUSE YOU'RE THE BROKER. 
          SO CAN WE OR NOT, I'M JUST ASK MY QUESTION. 
          WE HAVE THE CARRIER REP HERE. 
          EXACTLY. 
          AND THEN ALSO HIS INDEMNITY, YOU SAID THERE WAS BIDS OR DID YOU, DO YOU HAVE THOSE BIDS? CAN WE SEE THOSE BIDS? BECAUSE WE HAVE A PROCUREMENT POLICY AND OVER 50 GRAND, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, DID WE GO THROUGH THAT PROPERLY AND DO WE BID IT OUT? RIGHT? IT'S IS IT BECAUSE WE GO THROUGH THE BROKER THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE PROCUREMENT POLICY? THE PROCUREMENT, THE PROCUREMENT PROCESS IS, IS A DIRECTIVE THAT WE GET FROM THE CITY. 
          SO THE CITY SAYS WE'RE NOT GOING OUT FOR BID BECAUSE THE RENEWAL LOOKS GOOD. 
          EVERYTHING'S LOOKING FINE. 
          WE, WE DON'T CONTROL THAT. 
          WE JUST RESPOND TO IT. 
          SO IF THE CITY GOES OUT FOR BID, THE BIDS, COME IN, WE ANALYZE THEM. 
          WE SPREADSHEET AND WE MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS BASED ON WHAT WE SEE, BUT ULTIMATELY IT'S Y'ALL'S DECISION, BUT THERE WAS NO RFP PROCESS. 
          UH, THIS IS JUST THE RENEWAL BECAUSE 
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IT CAME BACK A FAIR. 
          THEY DON'T GO OUT EVERY YEAR FOR BID UH, GOOD AFTERNOON. 
          MY NAME IS CHRIS ELISE. 
          I'M WITH ABA. 
          UM, YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING ABA OR THE IRON SHORE, UH, PLACE? YEAH, I THINK THAT IRON SHORE DID IRON SHORE. 
          WE USED TO HAVE A DIFFERENT COMPANY, IRON SHORES, THE COMPANY WE WENT TO SEE THIS YEAR THAT WAS MENTIONED. 
          SO IT CHANGED, RIGHT? SO IT WASN'T NECESSARILY A RENEWAL. 
          I KNOW, BUT IT'S STILL A PART OF OUR PROCUREMENT POLICY WHERE WE HAVE TO GO OUT FOR BIDS. 
          IF WE'RE PAYING OVER 50,000 OR WE'RE PAYING ABOUT 400 GRAND FOR A STOP LOSS, BUT I DIDN'T SEE THE BIDS. 
          YOU HAVE THEM. 
          LET ME ASK YOU A QUESTION REAL QUICK. 
          LET ME GET YOU A CLEAN COPY SO YOU CAN OKAY. 
          SO WHAT I'M EXPLAINING HERE IS THIS GOT A LOT OF MY NOTES. 
          SO I BROUGHT IT UP. 
          UM, THE CURRENT, UM, THE CURRENT, UH, STOP-LOSS CARRIER WAS IRON SHORE THROUGH ABA. 
          THE, THE CARRIER ABA QUOTED, UH, AND OFFERED OPTION ONE, OPTION TWO, THREE, AND FOUR WITH DIFFERENT STOP-LOSS CARRIERS. 
          OKAY. 
          SO WE HAD A COUPLE OF OPTIONS FROM SHORE. 
          WE HAD A ONE FROM MIDWEST AND WE HAD ANOTHER ONE FROM NATIONWIDE. 
          NOW THESE WERE BIDS THAT, THAT WERE OBTAINED BY ABA BECAUSE THEY THEMSELVES WANT TO BRING YOU THE BEST PRODUCT AND THE BEST PRICE. 
          SO THEY DO THAT. 
          AND THEN THEY GIVE US THE OPTIONS. 
          BUT IF WE GO OUT FOR RFP, WE, AS THE AGENT, DON'T TYPICALLY GO OUT DIRECT TO THE STOP-LOSS CARRIER, WE WOULD GO OUT TO CARRIERS, UH, OR TPA LIKE ABA TO QUOTE ON BEHALF OF, OF, OF THE CITY IN THIS CASE, BECAUSE THERE WAS NO RFP, THEY ARE STILL GOING TO DO THEIR DUE DILIGENCE AND TRY TO FIND YOU THE BEST PRICING. 
          SO THESE ARE THE OPTIONS. 
          IF YOU LOOK AT OPTION ONE $50,000, THEY OFFERED ANOTHER OPTION AT 55, INCREASING YOUR DEDUCTIBLE FROM 50,000 TO 55. 
          UM, THE COST SAVINGS. 
          YOU LOOK AT THAT RIGHT THERE, THERE'S A LITTLE SAVINGS, BUT THE CITY'S TAKEN ON A LITTLE BIT MORE RISK. 
          ULTIMATELY, WHAT WE LOOK AT MR. GALVAN IS WE LOOK AT THIS FIGURE DOWN HERE, OKAY. 
          THERE WAS A $6,000 DIFFERENCE ON THE MAXIMUM COST, $6,000 DIFFERENCE HERE, BUT YOU'RE TAKING ON $5,000 MORE OF RISK ON THE STOP LOSS. 
          THE OTHER ONES WE DIDN'T EVEN LOOK AT BECAUSE THEY'RE THERE, THEIR PRICING WAS COMPLETELY OUT AND COMMISSIONER FOR CLARIFICATION. 
          I UNDERSTAND THE QUESTIONS TO THE BROKER IN TERMS OF WHETHER OR NOT THE BROKER DID THEIR DUE DILIGENCE IN GETTING BIDS, BUT TO TALK ABOUT REQUESTS FOR PROPOSALS OR OTHER PROCUREMENT THAT THE CITY FOLLOWS THAT THAT'S NOT APPLICABLE IN THIS CASE, THAT WE, THE CITY HAS OUR BROKER AND OUR BROKER OBTAINS THE QUOTES. 
          SO THERE'S NO PROCUREMENT PROCESS THAT APPLIES TO WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. 
          ALTHOUGH I DO UNDERSTAND THE DUE DILIGENCE COMPONENT OF WHAT YOU'RE ASKING. 
          YEAH, I CAN SEND YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          THEN, UH, LET'S GO BACK TO THE ITEM. 
          OKAY. 
          SO I HAVE A, I REMEMBER A CONSIDERATION POSSIBLE ACTION TO, UH, CONTINUE THE CURRENT. 
          THE CITY SENT ME TO MAJOR MEDICAL GROUP HEALTH PLAN THROUGH A SHIRT, UH, BENEFITS US ADMINISTRATORS, AND STOP LOSS THROUGH OUR IRON SHORE IDENTITY, UH, FOR THE FISCAL YEAR OF 2022 TO 2023. 
          OKAY. 
          WE HAVE ALREADY ASKED QUESTIONS AND WE HAVE WHAT WE HAVE ALREADY. 
          THEY HAVE ALREADY GIVEN IT TO US. 
          SO DO I HAVE A MOTION? GOT A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER GARCIA, SECOND BY MIRACLE TEAM. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          IT'S OUR FIRST BY A COMMISSIONER GARCIA A SECOND BY  ALL IN FAVOR. 
          ANY NAYS 
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MOTION PASSES. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          I DON'T REMEMBER NINE CONSIDERATION DISCUSSION. 
          I'M SORRY. 
          I DIDN'T MEAN I'M DISCRETION OF THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE CITY OF TOMATO, UH, EMERGENCY WATER CONSERVATION PLAN IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE ORDINANCE NUMBER 2376. 
          AND MR. ROSA, YOU WANTED TO TABLE THIS ONE, NO MAYOR AND MENTIONED I'D REQUEST THAT THIS BE, UH, TAKEN INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION OF THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION OF 5, 5, 1 0.071. 
          DO YOU WANT TO PUT THIS ONE AT THE END OR AT THE END, AT THE END WITH OTHER YOU JUST YES. 
          YEAH. 
          YES. 
          OKAY. 
          I GOT THE MOTION BY COMMISSIONER, UH, NORTHUMBRIA FRANCO. 
          SECOND, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER GARCIA TO PUT THE ON NUMBER NINE ON TO EXHIBIT DECISION ON, IN FAVOR, ANY NAYS, MOTION PASSES AND NUMBER 10 DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING THE SEMINOLE EDC CONTRACT TO EXPENDITURE FOR SERVICE OF THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR. 
          AND, UM, THIS ONE MAYOR AND COMMISSIONERS. 
          I, I MET WITH MS. GARAY YESTERDAY FROM THE SAN TO EDC. 
          I DID INFORM HER. 
          SHE DIDN'T NEED TO BE HERE, OBVIOUSLY. 
          UH, I NOTIFIED YOU THAT THE CANDIDATE THAT THEY HAD, UH, WITHDREW THE OFFER. 
          SO THEREFORE THERE'S NO ACTION TO BE TAKEN SO WE CAN MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ITEM. 
          OKAY. 
          I DON'T NUMBER 10 IS THERE'S NO ITEM, UH, TAKEN NO ACTION UNDECIDED. 
          OKAY. 
          [11. Public Hearing: To solicit input regarding a rezoning request for a property located at the southwest corner of the intersection of Sam Houston Boulevard and Pennsylvania Ave, bearing a Legal Description of a tract containing a 15.00-acre tract of land out of Block Forty (40) of the San Benito Land and Water Company Subdivision as recorded in Volume 1, Page 6 of the Map Records of Cameron County, Texas, from AO “Agriculture and Open Space” to SF-1 “Single-Family One”. Applicant: Camperos Development, LLC.]
NUMBER 11, PUBLIC HEARING TO SOLICIT INPUT REGARDING THE REZONING REQUEST FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED ON THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF THE INTERSECTION ON SEVEN HOUSTON BOULEVARD IN PENNSYLVANIA AVENUE, BURNED ILLEGAL DESCRIPTION OF A TRACK CONTAINING 15 ACRES TRACK LAND OUT OF BLOCK 40, UH, SOME OF YOUR LAND AND WATER COMPANY SUBDIVISION AS RECORDING VOLUME. 
          ONE PAGE SIX OF THE MAP RECORDS OF KEMIN COUNTY, TEXAS FROM 800,000 AGRICULTURE AND OPEN SPACE TO SF DASH ONE, SINGLE FAMILY, ONE APPLICANT, A COMPETITOR'S, UH, DEPARTMENT LLC. 
          AND, UH, MR. NIKKI HAS NOT PRESENTED HIS HONOR. 
          THANK YOU, MAYOR COMMISSIONERS, KAREN. 
          AND JUST FOR THE RECORD, UM, THE FOLLOWING IS A PUBLIC HEARING FOR A REZONING OF 15 ACRE TRACT LOCATED AT THE INTERSECTION OF PENNSYLVANIA AND SAM HOUSTON. 
          UM, PUBLIC NOTICES WERE SENT TO THE, UH, RESIDENTS WITHIN 200 FEET OF THE PROPERTY AND, UH, STEPPED IN. 
          I RECEIVE ANY OPPOSITION AGAIN, DISABILITY HERE. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THE TIME IS 6 53 AND WE'RE OPEN INTO OPEN PUBLIC HEARING IF ANYBODY WANTS TO SEE ANYTHING NOW AT THE TIME. 
          OKAY. 
          GIVE ME A 15 SECONDS. 
          NONE. 
          OKAY. 
          THE TIME IS, UH, 6 54 AND WE CLOSED PUBLIC HEARING. 
          [12. Consideration and possible action to approve Ordinance Number 2605-07-2022(Z), after Second and Final Reading, to rezone a property located on the Southwest corner of the intersection of Sam Houston Boulevard and Pennsylvania Ave, bearing a Legal description of, being a tract containing 15.00-acre tract of land out of Block Forty (40) of the San Benito Land and Water Company Subdivision as recorded in Volume 1, Page 6 of the Map Records of Cameron County, Texas, from AO “Agriculture and Open Space” to SF-1 “Single Family One”. Applicant: Camperos Development, LLC.]
I DON'T REMEMBER 12 CONSIDERATION POSSIBLE ACTION TO APPROVE ORDINANCE NUMBER 26 0 5 DASH ZERO SEVEN DASH 22 20 22 Z AFTER SECOND AND FINAL, UM, FINAL READING TO REZONE YOUR PROPERTY LOCATED ON THE SOUTHWEST CORNER INTERSECTION, 70 EASTON BOULEVARD IN PENNSYLVANIA AVENUE BURN THE LEGAL DESCRIPTION OF TRACK CONTAINING 15 ACRES OF LAND, A BLOCK 40, 70 ATLANTA WATER COMPANIES HAVE DIVISION OF ACCORDING TO VOLUME. 
          ONE PAGE SIX OF THE RECORD SERVER CAMERON COUNTY, TEXAS FROM AOL AGRICULTURE TO OPEN SPACE, TO SF ONE SINGLE FAMILY, ONE APPLICANT, A COMPETITOR'S A DEVELOPMENT LLC. 
          AND MR. , THANK YOU MAYOR AGAIN, IF YOU CAN, THIS FOR THE RECORD, UH, THE FOLLOWING, UH, THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING TO REZONE FROM AOL AGRICULTURAL OPEN SPACE TO SF ONE SINGLE FAMILY ONE. 
          THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP INDICATES A PROPOSED USE OF AGRICULTURAL SPACE, WHICH IS CONTIGUOUS TO NEIGHBORHOOD CONSERVATION USE IS SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISION IS BEING PROPOSED AND REQUIRES SF ONE SINGLE FAMILY, ONE ZONE TO COMPLY WITH CITY ORDINANCES, UH, PLANNING STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL, AND I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. 
          OKAY. 
          COMMISSIONER HAS ANY QUESTIONS? CAN YOU GET A MOTION BY  TIM? UH, FRANKLIN SECOND, SECOND, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER GARCIA. 
          ALL IN FAVOR. 
          ANY NAYS MOTION PASSES. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          [13. Public Hearing: To solicit input regarding a Re-plat of 592 Diaz Street, having a legal description of; Being 0.08 acres of land consisting of all of Lots 11 and 12, Block 3, San Benito Ninth Addition Subdivision, Cameron County, Texas. Applicant: Ernesto Garza Jr.]
I, EMMA 13, UH, PUBLIC HEARING TO 
          [01:25:01]
SOLICIT THEN REGARDING, UH, REPLY, UH, 5 92 D A STREET, HAVING A LEGAL DESCRIPTION OF BEARING 0.08 ACRES OF LAND CONSISTED OF LOTS, 11 AND 12 BLOCK THREE 7009TH EDITION SUBDIVISION, KEMAH COUNTY, TEXAS APPLICANT NESTO GARSA JR. 
          AND MR. NIKKI HAVE NUNS PERCENT NEW CENTER. 
          THANK YOU, MAYOR COMMISSIONERS. 
          UH, THE FOLLOWING IS A REPLANT OF 5 92, THE STREET, UH, THE REPLANTING AND COMBINING TWO LOTS INTO ONE, UH, TO CONFORM WITH, UH, CITY ORDINANCES. 
          UH, THERE'S AN EXISTING HOUSE AND, UH, THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THE TIME IS, UH, 6 56 AND OPEN IT UP TO OPEN PUBLIC HEARING. 
          IF ANYBODY WANTS TO SAY ANYTHING ON THIS NONE. 
          OKAY. 
          THE TIME IS, UH, 6 57 AND CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING. 
          [14. Consideration and possible action to approve a Re-plat of 592 Diaz Street, bearing a legal description of; Being 0.08 acres of land consisting of all of Lots 11 and 12, Block 3, San Benito Ninth Addition Subdivision, Cameron County, Texas. Applicant: Ermesto Garza Jr.]
OKAY. 
          CONSIDERATION, UH, I DON'T KNOW, 14 CONSIDERATION POSSIBLE ACTION TO APPROVE REPLIED, UH, FIND 82 D STREET, BERNIE LEGAL DESCRIPTION OF, UH, THE 0.08 ACRES OF LAND CONSISTENT OF ALL LIGHTS I 11 AND 12 BLOCK THREE, SOMEBODY ON NIGHT ADDITIONS OF DIVISION CHEMICAL IN TEXAS. 
          I BEGAN TO INEVITABLE GARCIA AND MR. . 
          THANK YOU, DEREK COMMISSIONERS. 
          UM, AGAIN, THIS IS FIRE REPLAT OF 5 92, UH, DSN STREET, UH, THE PROPERTY ZONE SF ONE FAMILY, SINGLE FAMILY ONE. 
          AND THE DEVELOPERS COMBINING BOTH LOTS, 11 AND 12 INTO ONE LOCK TO MEET CITY ORDINANCES. 
          YEP. 
          GO BACK TO THE OTHER SIDE RIGHT THERE. 
          OKAY. 
          OF COURSE. 
          MOTION TO APPROVE, UH, AND MAKE IT, UM, WAS THIS A REQUIREMENT? I THOUGHT I HAD FALLEN. 
          THE, SOMEONE WAS FIXING THE HOUSE. 
          THEY GOT ALL THE PERMITS TO FIX THE HOUSE. 
          IS THE HOUSE FINISHED? CORRECT. 
          SO IS THIS TO GET AN OCCUPANCY PERMIT? I WOULD IMAGINE THE ORDINANCE READS THAT, UH, THE CITY CANNOT PROVIDE ANY TITTIES OR BUILDING PERMIT UNLESS IT MATERIAL ORDINANCES OR IS A PLANET OR AS CONFORMING TO THE ORDINANCE. 
          SO AT THE HOUSE SITS ON BOTH LOTS, CORRECT. 
          IT'S ENCROACHING, LOT, LOT LINES, BUT NO UTILITIES WITHIN THE TWO LOTS. 
          AND THAT THE HOUSE SITS IN THE CENTER WITHIN THE SETBACKS OF THE ORIGINAL PLATTS. 
          UH, IT ENCROACHES A LOT LINES AND, UH, BUT IT'S NOT RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE. 
          YEAH. 
          BUT IT DOES MEET THE SET SETBACKS. 
          WELL, ONCE IT'S REPLACED AND IT'S NOT ENCROACHING THE LOT LINES OF THE NEIGHBORS. 
          NO, NO, NO, IT'S NOT. 
          SO THIS IS JUST A REQUIREMENT JUST SO THEY CAN GET OCCUPANCY PERMIT TO COME INTO YOUR PROPERTY CONFORM. 
          CORRECT. 
          SEE, OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          STILL HAVING THE SAME ISSUE. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT AT THE, IS THAT TO COMPLY WITH THE ORDINANCE, CORRECT? YES. 
          OKAY. 
          WELL, I THINK THE ORDINANCE STATES THAT IF WE MAKE A SUBDIVISION, WE HAVE TO START PUTTING SIDEWALKS. 
          RIGHT. 
          THIS IS A NEW SUBDIVISION, RIGHT. 
          COMMISSIONER THAT START A NEW SUBDIVISION. 
          IT'S OBVIOUSLY IT'S LOTS OF, THERE ARE BEING SUBDIVIDED UNDER SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          CAUSE THAT'S NOT A, AND TRY TO CROSS THE BASKETBALL COURTS ON THE IT'S NOT ANY SUBDIVISION. 
          UH, REPLANT IS, UH, BECAUSE, UH, THE LOTS WERE PREVIOUSLY, UH, RECORDED IN A PREVIOUS, PROBABLY 40, 50 YEARS AGO. 
          AND THEY'RE REPLANTING NOW JUST TO CONFIRM THAT, BECAUSE I HAVE FROM THE PLAT, FROM THE ILEUS ELLIOT FINAL PLAT OF ELIZA SUBDIVISION. 
          SO IT IS A NEW SUBDIVISION OR NOT AGENDA ITEM 14. 
          IS THAT NOT THE THEME NUMBER 14? YES. 
          THAT'S THE NAME OF THE IMAGE THERE? ARE YOU SEEING THE SAME AGENDA ITEM COMMISSION 14. 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          GO TO THE NEXT PAGE. 
          YOU'LL SEE IT. 
          YEAH, BUT IT'S NOT A REVISION. 
          IT'S AN EXISTING SUBDIVISION. 
          IT'S THE THREE RIGHT NOW. 
          THEY MADE A NEW SUBDIVISION. 
          IT'S CALLED ELIZA SUBDIVISION. 
          SO YOURSELF, YOU'RE TELLING ME IT'S AN EXISTING SUBDIVISION. 
          OKAY. 
          SO IT'S AN EXISTING SUBDIVISION. 
          TH THE LOTS ARE EXISTING. 
          AND DURING THE REPLAT THEY PROVIDE A NEW NAME FOR THE PROPERTY AND JUST A NEW NAME. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THOSE TWO PROPERTIES THAT NEED TO BE, I GUESS, CONFORM TO THE ORDINANCE 
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COMBINED. 
          SO THEY REMOVED THE LINE, WHICH THE STRUCTURE IS OVER BECAUSE MAYOR AND COMMISSIONERS, IF I CAN INTERRUPT, HOLD ON. 
          I HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION. 
          WAS THERE ANY STRUCTURAL ALTERATIONS TO THE BUILDING? IF THERE WAS ANY STRUCTURAL ALTERATIONS? YEAH. 
          COMMISSIONER, HE'S THE PLANNER. 
          HE'S NOT THE ONLY SPECTER. 
          HE WON'T KNOW WHAT'S OUT THERE. 
          SO THAT'S AN INAPPROPRIATE QUESTION FOR THIS CITY STAFFER. 
          I'M GOING TO EXCUSE MY EMPLOYEE. 
          MR. HERNANDEZ, HAVE A SEAT. 
          PLEASE ADDRESS YOUR QUESTIONS TO ME, COMMISSIONER. 
          OKAY. 
          SO DOES ENRIQUE AND GIVE OUT OCCUPANCY PERMITS? NO, SIR. 
          HE DOES NOT. 
          THAT'S WHAT I'VE BEEN TOLD WHEN THEY COME OVER HERE, HE'S THE ONE THAT HAD DENIES AND APPROVES THEM. 
          SO HE DOESN'T DO THAT. 
          THEN IT'S, UH, EDDIE, ALL THAT AT THE SIGNS ON THE BUILDING SPECTRUM. 
          OKAY. 
          SO IF YOU TOLD ME WHO YOUR SOURCE IS, I'LL BE HAPPY TO CORRECT THAT SO THAT WHEN PEOPLE COME OVER HERE AND YOU TO TALK, I HAVEN'T TALKED TO YOU. 
          EXCUSE ME, MARY. 
          I THINK THERE'S A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER OVER YOUR FRANCO TO APPROVE THE ITEM THAT'S PENDING. 
          IT SHOULD BE DEALT WITH ON THE TABLE. 
          WE GOT A MOTION BY  FRANCO SECOND AND SECOND BY COMMISSIONER. 
          GARCIO ALL IN FAVOR. 
          ANY NAYS? OKAY. 
          I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD, MAYOR. 
          I'M GOING TO ABSTAIN FROM THIS FOLKS. 
          I THINK THERE'S STILL AN ISSUE HERE AND I DON'T WANT TO BE PART OF THE VOTING PROCESS. 
          EXCUSE ME, COMMISSIONER. 
          YOU PARTICIPATED IN THE DISCUSSION. 
          IF YOU WANT TO ABSTAIN, YOU SHOULD HAVE NOT DISCUSSED. 
          YOU CAN BE A COMMISSIONER. 
          YOU CAN MAKE THE VOTE NEXT TIME I ABSTAINED. 
          THANKS MARK. 
          OKAY. 
          SO YOU GOT THE TWO, TWO YEARS AND UH, ONE OF THEM STAYING MOTION PASSES. 
          [15. Public Hearing: To solicit input regarding a Re-plat of a property located at the intersection of Combes Street and Robertson Street, having a legal description of; Being 0.44 acres of land consisting of all of Lots One (1), Two (2), Three (3) and Four (4), Block Two (2), Eighth Addition to the City of San Benito, Cameron County, Texas, as shown by the map or plat thereof recorded in Volume 5, Page 38, Map Records of Cameron County, Texas. Applicant:Robert Sanchez.]
I REMEMBER 15 PUBLIC HEARING TO SOLICIT, UH, INPUT REGARDING REPLY TO THE PUBLIC PROPERTY. 
          OKAY. 
          THE INTERSECTION OF ACOMA STREET AND ROBINSON STREET, HAVING A LEGAL DESCRIPTION. 
          I'M VERY IMPORTANT FOR FOUR ACRES OF LAND CON CONSISTENT OF ALL, LOTS OF 1, 2, 3, 4, AND BLOCK TO, UH, EIGHT, THE EIGHTH EDITION TO THE CITY OF SAN BENITO, CAMERON COUNTY, TEXAS AS SHOWN IN MEPO OR PLAT THEREOF, RECORDING VOLUME FIVE PIZZA, 38, UH, MAPS RECORD RECORDING CAMERON COUNTY, TEXAS AND MR. ROBERT SANCHEZ. 
          AND WE HAVE, UH, INDICATOR. 
          NOPE, I MAY. 
          I'M GOING TO TAKE IT FROM HERE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          WE'RE READY. 
          WE HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE LOCATION, AS YOU CAN SEE UP ON THE SCREEN, YOU'LL SEE THAT THERE'S THREE, LOTS IS TRIANGULAR SHAPE. 
          THAT'S ODD SHAPED. 
          SO PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE REPLANTING OF THE PROPERTY THAT YOU JUST IDENTIFIED MAYOR. 
          AND IF YOU'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING, WE WILL, WE CAN TAKE COMMENTS. 
          OKAY. 
          THE TIME IS 7 0 3 AND WE'RE AT OPEN PUBLIC COMMENT. 
          YES. 
          MA'AM STATE YOUR NAME AND NOT JUST PLEASE. 
          UH, MY NAME'S LINDA RAMIREZ. 
          I OWN THE PROPERTY AT 8, 7 0. 
          CAN YOU GET THIS A LITTLE BIT MORE FOR THE SOAKING HERE? YOU AND I OWN THE PROPERTY AT 8 7 0 COMB STREET. 
          AND, UM, I WANT TO OBJECT TO THIS BUSINESS BEING OPEN THERE BECAUSE, UM, IT'S, UH, IT'S RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE SCHOOL. 
          AND, UH, I FEEL LIKE IT'S GOING TO CAUSE A PROBLEM FOR CHILDREN THAT ARE GOING TO BE CROSSING THAT TO GET OVER TO COMBS. 
          AND, UM, I JUST DON'T SEE THAT THEY NEED ANY MORE TROUBLE IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          THERE'S A LOT OF OLD EMPTY BUILDINGS ON THAT VERY STREET THAT, UM, I DON'T SEE WHY THEY CAN'T BUILD ON THOSE LOCATIONS RATHER THAN TO BE DOING THIS RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL. 
          AND THAT'S ALL I AM. 
          OKAY. 
          ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY, THEN, UH, IT'S 7 0 5 AND A CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING. 
          [16. Consideration and possible action to approve a Re-plat of a property located at the intersection of Combes Street and Robertson Street, having a legal description of; Being 0.44 acres of land consisting of all of Lots One (1), Two (2), Three (3) and Four (4), Block Two (2), Eighth Addition to the City of San Benito, Cameron County, Texas, as shown by the map or plat thereof recorded in Volume 5, Page 38, Map Records of Cameron County, Texas. Applicant:Robert Sanchez.]
OKAY. 
          ADAM IS 16 CONSIDERATION POSSIBLE ACTION TO APPROVE. 
          I REPLIED TO THE PROPERTY LOCATED IN THE INTERSECTION OF COMMON STREET IN ROBINSON STREET AND HAVING THEIR LEGAL DESCRIPTION OF BURYING THE 0.4, FOUR ACRES OF LAND CONSISTENT OF ALL LOTS. 
          1, 2, 3, AND FOUR BLOCK TWO EIGHT. 
          THE ADDITION TO THE CITY OF TOMATO CHEMICAL IN TEXAS IS SHOWN IN MAPA OR PLOT. 
          THERE ARE RECORDED IN VOLUME FIVE, PAGE 38. 
          MY RECORDS OF CHEMICALS IN TEXAS APPLICANT, ROBERT SANCHEZ AND MR.  MIRA COMMISSIONER, UH, STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL. 
          THIS IS A REPLANT OF A COMMERCIAL SITE. 
          IT ONLY REQUIRES TO BE SENT TO THE CITY COMMISSION AND NOT TO PLANNING ZONING. 
          IF YOU'LL LOOK IT UP TO YOUR EXHIBITS WILL ACTUALLY SEE I IDENTIFIED THREE. 
          CAUSE I THINK THOSE ARE HOW THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT HAS IT. 
          THERE'S ACTUALLY 
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FOUR LOTS, BUT AS LONG AS THE, THE LAND USE IS A COMMERCIAL ONE AND THOSE LAND USES ALLOWED. 
          I MEAN, REGARDLESS OF WHATEVER THE NAME IS, AND I'M SEEING THAT UP THERE, UH, WHEREVER THE APPLICANT IS, AS LONG AS IT MEETS THOSE COMMERCIALS. 
          I UNDERSTAND, UH, THE COMMENT THAT WAS MADE ABOUT THE SCHOOL, YOU KNOW, THE NEIGHBORHOOD BETTER OF SOME OF YOU LIVE IN VERY CLOSE PROXIMITY TO THE SCHOOL. 
          YOU CAN DETERMINE THAT. 
          I JUST, UH, UH, UNLESS ALL I CAN TELL YOU IS THAT IF THEY DON'T FOLLOW THE LAND USE UNDER C1, THEN WE AT THAT POINT HAVE A VIOLATION OF ZONING. 
          OKAY. 
          AND AT THAT TIME WE'LL ADDRESS IT. 
          BUT AS LONG AS THE REPLAT, UH, SO WHATEVER THE REPLIED IS TODAY, IT'S JUST A REPLANNING OF FOUR LOTS THAT YOU SEE TWO COMMERCIAL PROPERTY ZONED C1 UNTIL SOMEBODY GOES IN AND DOESN'T FOLLOW C1. 
          IT'S WHAT, YOU KNOW, WHEN THERE COULD POTENTIALLY BE A VIOLATION OF ZONING ORDINANCES. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THE FIRST, UH, FIRST THING IS THAT IT'S A REPLOT SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BE VOTING FOR. 
          YES, SIR. 
          THAT'S ALL YOU'RE VOTING FOR. 
          OKAY. 
          ANY QUESTIONS? DO I HAVE MOTION? IS THERE ANY STRUCTURES ON THE PROPERTY RIGHT NOW? I BELIEVE THAT THERE ARE, I UNDERSTOOD THEY WERE GOING TO BE DEMOLISHED. 
          NOPE. 
          OKAY. 
          MAKES SENSE NOW. 
          OKAY. 
          SO DO I HAVE A MOTION MOTION, MOTION BY  SECOND BY COMMISSIONER GARCIA. 
          ALL IN FAVOR. 
          ANY NAYS MOTION PASSES. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THEN NUMBER 
          [17. Public Hearing: To solicit input regarding a Re-plat of 701 E. Business 77, having a legal description of; a Replat of Lots One (1) and Two (2), Block Twelve (12), Evans Subdivision, City of San Benito, as per Map Recorded in Volume 13, Page 4, Map Records of Cameron County, Texas. Applicant:Jaime Pedraza and wife, Maria del Rosario Pedraza.]
17, PUBLIC HEARING TO SOLICIT THE INPUT RECORDING TO REPLY 7 0 1 EAST BUSINESS OWNED SEVEN, HAVING THE LEGAL DESCRIPTION OF REPLIED TO BLOCKS ONE AND TWO BLOCK 12. 
          EVAN'S A SUBDIVISION SENIORS, THEM AS PER MATT RECORD RECORDED AND VOLUNTEER TEAM PATRIOT FOR RECORDS, UH, KEVIN COUNTY, TEXAS APPLICANT, UH  AND A WIFE  AND MANY YOU'RE GOING TO TAKE THAT. 
          YES, SIR. 
          MIRIN COMMISSIONERS THAT YOU CAN SEE THAT THERE'S A, IT'S A REPLAY OF THIS PROPERTY LOCATED ON BUSINESS 77. 
          UH, IT'S A PUBLIC HEARING. 
          SOME AIR WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT. 
          OKAY. 
          THE TIME IS 7 0 8 AND WE'RE OPENING IT UP TO, UH, OPEN PUBLIC HEARING. 
          NOBODY. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THE TIME IS 7 0 8 AND WE'RE CLOSED PUBLIC HEARING. 
          [18. Consideration and possible action to a Re-plat of 701 E. Business 77, having a legal description of; a Replat of Lots One (1) and Two (2), Block Twelve (12), Evans Subdivision, City of San Benito, as per Map Recorded in Volume 13, Page 4, Map Records of Cameron County, Texas. Applicant: Jaime Pedraza and wife, Maria del Rosario Pedraza.]
KATIE. 
          I DON'T REMEMBER 18 CONSIDERATION POSSIBLE ACTION TO REPLOT 7 0 1 EAST OF BUSINESS, 77. 
          AND HAVING A LEGAL DESCRIPTION OF, UH, REPLOT OF LOTS, ONE AND TWO BLOCK 12 EVIDENCE OF DIVISION TWO. 
          SO MANY OF THEM AS RECORDED RAP RECORD RECORDING VOLUME 13, PAGE FOUR. 
          MY RECORDS ARE CHEMICAL IN TEXAS  AND WIPE THE  AND MANY STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF THIS REPLANT LOCATED AT 7 0 1 EAST BUSINESS, 77. 
          AND IS THERE AN EXISTING BUSINESS ON THIS PROPERTY? WELL, I DON'T KNOW COMMISSIONER, BUT IF THE PHOTOS, ANY ERROR THAT, UH, UH, PHOTO UP THERE THAT'S UP THERE IS INDICATION. 
          THERE MAY BE, OH, I THINK THAT'S THE LEO STOCK AREA. 
          THEY'VE BEEN OPEN FOR AWHILE. 
          PRETTY GOOD. 
          THEY'RE A GOOD RATINGS ON FACEBOOK, ON YAHOO. 
          UH, I'VE EATEN THERE ALMOST ONCE A WEEK. 
          SO THE, THE PROPERTY REESE, IT SITS ON BOTH LOTS. 
          THE BUILDING, IT LOOKS LIKE IT MAY, I DON'T SEE A SURVEY UP THERE TO INDICATE WHERE THE BUILDING'S LOCATED. 
          I JUST KNOW THERE'S TWO LOTS. 
          IT COULD BE THE PARKING LOT, ONE LOT AND THE OTHER. 
          SO, UH, HERE'S WHAT YOU DO. 
          SOMETIMES YOU GET A BILL ON ONE, YOU PUT A LOT ON THE OTHER AND YOU DON'T, AND IT'S TWO DIFFERENT PROPERTIES. 
          INSTEAD OF MERGING THE PROPERTIES ARE BEING PAYING BUSINESS TAXES ON ONE THAT DOESN'T HAVE ANY STRUCTURES BECAUSE PARKING LOT AND YOU'RE PAYING BUSINESS TAXES ON THE OTHER. 
          SO THERE'S A NUMBER OF REASONS WHY WE LOOK AT THESE THINGS. 
          SO ONE IS FOLLOWING STATE LAW. 
          TWO IS FALLING IN OUR ORDINANCES AND THE THIRD IS, THERE'S A REASON THAT WE'RE BUYING A PROPERTY ON COLORADO STREET BECAUSE SOMEBODY DECIDED TO BUILD A CITY'S FORCE MAINE. 
          SO THAT RUNS ALONG A PROPERTY LINE. 
          SO IT'S BEEN COSTLY TO US. 
          AND THERE'S A REASON THAT WE LOOK AT THESE PLANTS AND REPLANTS ABSTAIN AGAIN. 
          OKAY. 
          ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? DO I HAVE MOTION MOTION BY A MIRACLE, TIM FRANCO. 
          SECOND, SECOND, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER GARCIA. 
          ALL IN FAVOR. 
          ANY NAYS, WHAT'S YOUR PASSES WITH THREE AND ONE OBSCENE. 
          [19. Discussion and possible action to approve the Law Enforcement Aid or Assistance Interlocal Agreement with Cameron County, Texas in clarification with the County Attorney for Operation Stonegarden (OPSG) Operations in preparation for the possible lifting of U.S Code Title 42.]
I DON'T REMEMBER 19 CAUSE UH, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO 
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APPROVE THE LAW ENFORCEMENT EIGHT AND ASSISTANT IN THE LOCAL AGREEMENT WITH A CHEMICAL IN TEXAS IN CLARIFICATION WITH THE COUNTY ATTORNEY FOR OPERATION GARDENS, DON'T OWN P S G OPERATIONS IN THE PREPARATION FOR THE, UH, POSSIBLE DIFF 15 OF US CODE TITLE 42 AND CHIEF MEYER PAIDEIA PRESENTED GOOD EVENING. 
          MAYOR, MAYOR PRO TEM AND COMMISSIONERS, UH, FOR THE RECORD POLICE CHIEF, MIGHT'VE BEEN AT THIS INTER LOCAL AGREEMENT FROM CAMERON COUNTY WOULD ALLOW OUR DEPARTMENT ASSIST THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE AND BORDER PATROL IN AREAS WHERE THEY FEEL A NEED FOR INCREASED LAW ENFORCEMENT PRESENCE ALONG THE BORDER. 
          IT WAS ORIGINALLY CREATED IN ANTICIPATION OF THE ENDING TO TITLE 42 BORDER PATROL EXPECTED TO SEE AN INCREASE OF PEOPLE CROSSING THE BORDER AND REQUESTING LOCAL AGENCIES TO ASSIST IN THE EVENTS. 
          SOME OF THEIR AGENTS WERE REASSIGNED TO PROCESSING THESE INDIVIDUALS. 
          WE CURRENTLY OPERATE OUTSIDE THE CITY TO SUPPORT BORDER PATROL WHILE WORKING STONEGARDEN DISAGREEMENT WITH BASICALLY EXPAND OUR CURRENT ASSIGNED AREA OF COVERAGE AND JURISDICTION TO CONDUCT ENFORCEMENT ACTION OFFICERS WORKING THIS DETAIL WILL BE FUNDED THROUGH STONEGARDEN GRANTS, GRANT FUNDS AND THE VEHICLE THEY WILL UTILIZE. 
          IT WILL BE THE ONE AWARDED TO US FROM THE GRANT. 
          STAFF RECOMMENDS A PROVEN I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS, THE SAME HERE, UH, SHARE THE, THE WEALTH AND THE OVERTIME AND STUFF LIKE THAT. 
          THAT'S ALL THE COMMENT THAT I HAVE FOR YOU GUYS YESTERDAY. 
          I NORMALLY DO IT EVERY YEAR AND JUST A MOTION TO APPROVE WE A GOOD EMOTION, BUT CHIEF IS THE, LET'S SAY THERE'S A NORMAL ASSIGNED DAY OF FIVE OFFICERS IN THE FIELD IS ONE GOING TO BE SET OVER TO THE STONE GARDEN AREA. 
          SO IT WILL BE FOUR IN THE CITY AND ONE OVER THERE. 
          OR ARE YOU GOING TO HAVE AN ADDITIONAL OFFICER, UH, TAKE CARE OF THAT AREA? YEAH, NO, THE CITY IS OUR MAIN FOCUS. 
          WE HAVE, UH, STAFFED OFFICERS, PATROL OFFICERS WORKING IN THE CITY. 
          THE OFFICERS AT WORK. 
          THIS WOULD BE EITHER OFF OR UH, AFTER, AFTER THEIR TOUR OF DUTY OVERTIME. 
          YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          SO, UH, KAMISHA WE HAVE FRANCO, SINCE YOU MADE THE MOTION, IF YOU COULD AMEND YOUR MOTION TO APPROVE THE INTER-LOCAL AGREEMENT, UM, WITH THE COUNTY, WITH THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S CLARIFICATION'S THAT HE PROVIDED. 
          OKAY. 
          WE WANT THAT VERY SPECIFICALLY STAYED. 
          THE REASON BEING IS, UH, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR INTERPRETATION OR AT LEAST OUR LEGAL OR CITY ATTORNEY'S INTERPRETATION IS THE SAME ONE AS THE COUNTY ATTORNEY AND NOT SOMEBODY WHO'S GOING TO READ IN THE FUTURE. 
          OKAY. 
          THIS IS, THIS ENVELOPE WAS BETWEEN THE CITY AND THE COUNTY MAYOR FIELD. 
          UH, YOU MENTIONED, I MEAN, BARNARD MERIT, IF YOU READ WHAT'S IN THERE, THERE'S ATTACHED TO THE PACKET. 
          THERE'S A LETTER FROM MYSELF TO THE CAMERON COUNTY ATTORNEY AND ASKED FOR CLARIFICATION. 
          WE'RE NOT TURNING TO AMEND THE AGREEMENT. 
          WE'RE NOT TRYING TO SAY IT ANY DIFFERENT, BUT ASK FOR CLARIFICATION ON TWO POINTS JUST TO MAKE SURE OUR READING IS CONSISTENT WITH THE UNDERSTANDING OF THE COUNTY. 
          AND I ASKED THEM FOR TWO CLARIFICATION ON TWO POINTS. 
          ONE IS THAT THE CITY HAS THE RIGHT TO TERMINATE THE AGREEMENT AT ANY TIME DURING 30 DAYS, WE DON'T HAVE TO WAIT TO THE END OF THE TERM. 
          AND THE OTHER ONE IS THAT THE CHIEF, OUR CHIEF AT ALL TIMES HAS ULTIMATE CONTROL OVER LAW ENFORCEMENT BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY THESE ARE SOMEBODY THOUGH POLICE OFFICERS AND 70, THOSE LAW ENFORCEMENT NEEDS ARE GOING TO HAVE TO COME FIRST BEFORE WE CAN HELP ANYBODY ELSE. 
          OKAY. 
          SO HE CONFIRMED, UH, MY UNDERSTANDING OF THAT WE, AND WE'VE ATTACHED A LETTER. 
          SO WE WOULD ASK IF THE COMMISSION WISHES TO APPROVE THIS AGREEMENT. 
          AND IT'S ALSO ALONG WITH THE CLARIFICATION'S PROVIDED BY THE COUNTY AS TO THE AGREEMENT. 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH, BECAUSE THE THING IS THAT I BROUGHT IT UP TO HUMANITY AS IT, UH, WHEN HE SAID THAT THEY NEEDED TO HELP WELL WITH THE WHOLE DEPARTMENT WAS GOING TO GO THAT WAY. 
          AND THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT, THAT WE D WE DIDN'T HAVE THAT CLARIFICATION THAT THEY WILL, MARK WENT AND GOT IT. 
          SO IT CONCERNS THE SPEAKERS. 
          WE'RE NOT FEDERAL OFFICERS, AND WE'RE NOT WILLING TO TAKE ON A FEDERAL RESPONSIBILITIES WHEN WE HAVE A DUTY TO PROTECT OUR OWN CITIZENS PERSONS. 
          I AGREE WITH THEM, SO GREAT. 
          OKAY. 
          MO MOTION FOR MEN. 
          I'M IN MY MOTION AS PRESENTED BY LEGAL. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT'S PRESENTED BY A BETTER CONSOLE. 
          OKAY. 
          SO DO I HAVE A SECOND, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER GARCIA? ALL IN FAVOR, ANY NAYS MOTION PASSES? 
          [20. Consideration and possible action to approve payment number three to Axon Enterprise, Inc. for the Tasers X26P per the five-year Purchase Agreement in the amount of $13,158.00.]
OKAY. 
          I DON'T REMEMBER 20 CONSIDERATION POSSIBLE ACTION TO REMOVE, UH, PAYMENT, UH, NUMBER THREE ON EXCELLENT, UH, ENTERPRISE INCORPORATED WHERE THE TEASER X TWO, SIX P PER THE FIVE-YEAR, UH, PURCHASE AGREEMENT IN THE AMOUNT OF $13,150 IN CHIEF MIGHT'VE BEEN PRESENTED ON YEAH. 
          FOR THE RECORD POLICE CHIEF MIGHTY BUDDY. 
          YEAH. 
          ON JULY 7TH, 2020, THE CITY COMMISSION APPROVED THE PURCHASE OF 43 TASER X 26. 
          P'S ON A FIVE-YEAR LEASE TO OWN AGREEMENT. 
          THE AGREEMENT CALLED FOR US TO PAY ON AN INITIAL PAYMENT OF $16,608 FOLLOWED BY FOUR PAYMENTS OF $13,158. 
          THIS WILL BE THE THIRD PAYMENT OF THAT AGREEMENT. 
          THE PAYMENT WILL BE MADE FROM OUR ASSET FORFEITURE ACCOUNT STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL AND I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS. 
          OKAY. 
          HAVE YOU GOTTEN TASTES? YES, SIR. 
          THE FIRST ONE, SIR, THEY HURT, 
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UH, YOU DON'T FEEL IT UNTIL AFTER, AND THEN THE QUESTIONS COMMISSURES YEAH. 
          TH THIS IS THE INITIAL PAYMENT. 
          THE INITIAL PAYMENT WAS MADE BACK. 
          OH, IT WAS MADE ALREADY. 
          SO YOU'RE ON THE THIRD PAYMENT. 
          AND HOW MANY MORE DO WE HAVE? TWO MORE CONDITIONER. 
          TWO MORE TO GO. 
          AND THAT'S ALSO GOING TO BE COMING FROM THE FORFEITURE FUNDS. 
          CORRECT, SIR. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          SO I HAVE A MOTION MOTION BY COMMISSIONER GARCIA. 
          SECOND, SECOND BY A MEMBER WITH HIM. 
          IF UNCLE ALL IN FAVOR, ANY NAYS MOTION PASSES. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU, SIR. 
          [21. Consideration and possible action to ratify payment to Stewart & Stevenson Power Products, LLC for the rental of a portable generator at the Wastewater Treatment Plant in the total amount of $47,093.90.]
I DUNNO, 21 CONSIDERATION POSSIBLE ACTION TO VERIFY PAYMENTS ON STORED AND STEVENS, UH, UH, POWER PRODUCTS LOC WHETHER RENTAL OR A PORTABLE GENERATOR AT THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT. 
          THEN IN TOTAL MOTTO OF $47,093 AND 90 CENTS. 
          AND MR. OSCAR GARCIA PERCENT ITSELF FOR THE RECORD, A DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS, OSCAR GARCIA, UH, MAYOR COMMISSIONERS, MAYOR PRO TEM, UH, IN JANUARY, 2020 SECOND, UH, APO FOR $30,000 WAS GENERATED TO COVER RENTAL OF THE PORTABLE GENERATOR AT THE WASTEWATER PLANT FOR INVOICES WHERE EXPENSE, WHICH EXCEEDED THE PO AMOUNT BY $2,562 AND 60 CENTS. 
          THE FINAL TWO INVOICES, TOTAL 14,531 AND 31 SAYS DOES MAKING THE TOTAL AMOUNT FOR RATIFICATION, UH, $17,093 AND 90 CENTS. 
          STEPH IS RECOMMENDING RATIFYING PAYMENT TO STUDENTS STEVENSON POWER PRODUCTS, LLC, FOR THE RENTAL OF A PORTABLE GENERATOR AT THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT IN A TOTAL AMOUNT OF $47,093 AND 90 CENTS. 
          OKAY. 
          ANY QUESTIONS? NO. 
          OKAY. 
          DO I HAVE MOTION? YOU GOT A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER GARCIA SECOND BY MAYOR PRO TEM FRANCO ALL IN FAVOR, ANY NAYS MOTION PASSES, 
          [22. Consideration and possible action to approve Payment Number 1 to Ferguson Service Systems, Inc., as recommended by Hanson Professional Services, Inc., pertaining to the E] Camino Number 1 Lift Station Improvements in the total amount of $127,522.83.]
I'M A 22 CONSIDERATION POSSIBLE ACTION TO APPROVE OUR PAYMENT. 
          NUMBER ONE, TO PURCHASE IN THE SYSTEM SERVICE SYSTEM, INC. 
          UH, AS RECOMMENDED BY HANSON PROFESSIONAL PROFESSIONAL SERVICING THAT PERTAINED TO EL CAMINO. 
          NUMBER ONE, UH, LIFT STATION IMPROVEMENTS FOR THE TOTAL AMOUNT OF $127,523 AND 93 CENTS THAT MR. OSCAR GARCIA PERCENTAGES, THOUGH, FOR THE RECORD, UH, THE DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS, OSCAR GARCIA, MAYOR MAYOR PRO TEM COMMISSIONERS. 
          A PAYMENT REQUEST WAS SUBMITTED BY HANSON POWER SERVICES, PROFESSIONAL SERVICES ON BEHALF OF FERGUSON SERVICE SYSTEMS, INC FOR THE PURCHASE AND INSTALLATION OF MATERIALS FOR EL CAMINO LIFT STATION PROJECT FOR A TOTAL AMOUNT OF $127,522 AND 83 CENTS STAFF IS RECOMMENDING AND APPROVING PAYMENT. 
          NUMBER ONE TO FERGUSON SERVICE SYSTEMS, INC, AS RECOMMENDED BY HANDSOME PROFESSIONAL SERVICES PERTAINING TO THE EL CAMINO NUMBER ONE LIFT STATION IMPROVEMENTS IN A TOTAL AMOUNT OF $127,522 AND 83 CENTS. 
          OKAY. 
          ANY QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS? DO I HAVE A MOTION GO MOTION BY  SECOND TAKEN BY COMMISSIONER GARCIA ON THE FAVOR. 
          ANY NAYS MOTION PASSES. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU, SIR. 
          [23. Consideration and possible action to approve payment to Hanson Professional Services, Inc. pertaining to Task Order Number 5 for engineering and design services to the Landrum Lift Station located at 400 Landrum Street in the total amount of $22,440.00.]
I REMEMBER 23 CONSIDERATION POSSIBLE ACTION TO APPROVE A PAYMENT FOR A HENSON, UH, PROFESSIONAL, UH, SERVICE, POTENTIALLY A TASK ORDER. 
          NUMBER FIVE FOR ENGINEERING AND DESIGN SERVICE IN LANDRUM, UH, LIFT STATION LOCATED AT 400 LENDO STREET. 
          AND I TOLD THEM ABOUT THE $22,440. 
          AND MS. UH, WAS THIS OH, MR.  GOOD AFTERNOON. 
          UH, FOR THE RECORD, UH, HONEYWELL GARCIA, NEW PROJECT, UH, CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS, PROJECT COORDINATOR, UH, THE PAYMENT AND REQUEST IS FOR A TOTAL OF $22,440 REQUESTED BY HANSEN, UH, PROFESSIONAL SERVICES. 
          UH, THIS IS, UH, FOR A 30% COMPLETION ON ENGINEERING DESIGN, UH, SPECS FOR A LIFT STATION AT LANDRUM, UH, STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL. 
          SO WHAT DID WE SAY WE'RE GOING TO DO THERE? THIS IS FOR A 30% COMPLETION RATE ON THE ENGINEER DESIGN A PROCESS MAYOR. 
          BUT YEAH, IF YOU MIGHT RECALL THIS, THE ONE BY THE SCHOOL ONLINE, SO THEY'RE DOING SOME WORK AT THE LIFT STATION, UH, OSCAR, DO YOU, WILL YOU STEP UP, YOU GOT CONVERSATIONS WITH THE ENGINEERS PRETENDING TO THE ADDITIONAL FORCE BANG OR WAS IT YOU ONLY ABOUT YES, YES. 
          UH, SO LET IT FILL IT. 
          SO THE REPAIRS WERE ONLY TO THE LIFT STATION. 
          SO APPARENTLY AFTER, AFTER THEIR ASSESSMENTS, THEY'VE BEEN DOING SOME WORK THERE ALREADY, OR AT LEAST PART OF THIS DESIGN, A SECTION OF OUR FORCE MAIN WILL NEED TO BE. 
          SO 
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WHAT WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT IT, WHETHER WE'RE GOING TO, UH, SUGGEST A, AN AMENDMENT OR CHANGE ORDER, OR IT'S GOING TO BE A DIFFERENT CONTRACT, IF IT'S NOT THE SAME WORK, UH, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE GOT FORBIDS AND STUFF, W WOULD IT BE BETTER TO HANDLE IT NOW OR HANDLE IT SEPARATELY BY DIFFERENT CONTRACTORS SINCE WE'RE DISCUSSING PIPE BURSTING? I THINK THAT'S THE CONVERSATION I HAD WITH MR. GARCIA, IF YOU WILL, W TH THERE'S A SECTION THERE, UH, GOING NORTH AND THAT NEEDS TO BE, YOU CAN SEE THAT THE STREET CAME IN AND ALREADY SPARKLING IN CERTAIN AREAS. 
          SO, UH, THE BEST OPTION THERE WOULD BE A PIPE BURSTING. 
          SO IT, IT WOULD STILL INVOLVE A LOT OF CONSTRUCTION, UH, DEMOLISHING THE CONCRETE AND ALL THAT STUFF, REDOING THE BASE AND ALL THAT STUFF. 
          BUT THAT'S WHAT HE WAS. 
          SO IN OTHER WORDS, WE WOULD STILL HAVE TO RE REMOVE THE ROADWAY, BUT PIPER'S TEAM AS MUCH FASTER. 
          IT'S MORE COSTLY, BUT IT IS AN ACTIVE FORCE MAIN AND ACTIVE SEWER LINE. 
          SO THEREFORE TO REMOVE IT AND BE DEALING ENVIRONMENTALLY WITH THIS AND ALL OF THOSE OTHER THINGS, WE'RE THINKING THAT WE'RE GOING TO, UH, PIPER'S TO MAKE THE CONNECTIONS AGAIN. 
          AND THEN, BECAUSE WE BELIEVE THAT THERE POTENTIALLY IN, IT HAPPENS, UH, HISTORICALLY AROUND, UNDERNEATH THESE CONCRETE ROADWAYS, THERE, THERE ARE VOIDS. 
          SO WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S UNDERNEATH THERE UNTIL WE GET INTO. 
          SO WE BELIEVE THAT WE'RE STILL GONNA HAVE TO OPEN IT UP. 
          SO THEREFORE WE'LL LET IT BE PART OF THE MAYOR, UH, TCQ THEN CARE ABOUT THE ROADWAY OR THE FORCE ME, THEY CARE ABOUT THE LIFT STATION RIGHT NOW. 
          THEY'RE ONLY GOING TO CARE ABOUT THE FORCE MAIN WHEN IT BURST. 
          CORRECT. 
          SO WE NEED TO ADDRESS THE FORCE BANG ITSELF AND THE LIFT STATION, THE LIFT STATION TO MEET OUR I AGREEMENT. 
          SO THIS IS VERY MUCH PRIORITIZED BY US, BUT WE RECOGNIZE THE STAFF HAS BEEN OUT THERE. 
          THEY'VE BEEN HAVING MEETINGS WITH OUR ENGINEERS. 
          SO WE RECOGNIZE THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO ADD TO THIS JOB WHAT I HAVEN'T DETERMINED OR WHAT I HAVEN'T BEEN INFORMED, WHETHER IT'S GOING TO BE THE SAME CONTRACTOR, OR IS IT EASIER FOR US TO GET ANOTHER CAR FOR US TO GET THE CONTRACTOR, ANY FAMILIAR WITH UTILITIES, AND THEN HE'S GOING TO SUB IT OUT AND ADD HIS PRICE AND CONTINUE EVERYTHING ON TOP. 
          IT MAY BE SIMPLER AND FASTER AND CHEAPER FOR US TO CONTRACT THAT OUT SEPARATELY KIND OF WORK SIMULTANEOUSLY. 
          YEAH. 
          WHERE WE'RE AT, HENCE WHERE WE'RE BEING PROACTIVE. 
          WE'RE TRYING TO MAXIMIZE AS MUCH AS MUCH REHABILITATION AT MINIMAL COST, OR AT LEAST NOT HAVING TO PAY PREMIUM FOR THESE JOBS. 
          OKAY. 
          MANNY, WHAT WAS THE, UH, THE OUTCOME FOR THE LIFT STATION THERE? WAS IT GOING TO BE MORE CAPACITY? WHAT WAS IT? UH, THEY WERE GOING TO INCREASE SOME CAPACITY. 
          THEY'RE GOING TO TAKE CARE OF THE ODOR ISSUES. 
          THEY WERE GOING TO TRY TO STAY. 
          IT'S ALL GOING TO BE WITHIN THE RIGHT OF WAY. 
          IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO NARROW THE ROADWAY, MAKE IT ONE WAY. 
          ALL OF THAT IS PART OF THE DESIGN. 
          IT LOOKS LIKE THEY'RE GOING TO SQUEEZE IT ALL IN. 
          SO, BUT IT'S NOT, WE DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER PLACE, PERIOD. 
          WE'RE GOING TO BE THERE RIGHT NEXT TO THE SCHOOL. 
          IT'S STILL AN ACTIVE ROADWAY. 
          SO I THINK THE ONLY THING, I THINK THE ONLY BAD THING ABOUT IT IS BEDTIME. 
          YOU KNOW, SCHOOL'S BACK, YOU KNOW WHAT? THERE'S NEVER A GOOD TIME FOR ANYTHING. 
          RIGHT. 
          JUST GOT TO GET IT DONE. 
          MOTION TO APPROVE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, I GOT A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER . 
          FRANKLIN WAS SECOND, SECOND, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER GARCIA ON THE FAVOR. 
          ANY NAYS MOTION PASSES. 
          OKAY. 
          [24. Consideration and possible action to approve an artist contract with Universal Latin Agency for a headline band at the 2022 South Texas Music Festival on Saturday, September 24, 2022.]
I REMEMBER 24 CONSERVATION POSSIBLE ACTION TO APPROVE THE ARTISTS, A CONTRACT WITH THE UNIVERSAL LAW, UH, LATIN AGENCY WITH THE HEADLINER BANNER 2022, UH, SOUTH TEXAS MUNICIPAL FESTIVAL ON, ON SATURDAY, SEPTEMBER 24TH, 2022. 
          AND MS. NIKKI SAID ON A PRESENT GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR AND COMMISSIONERS, NIKKI SERONO, PARKS AND RECREATION, SPECIAL PROJECT PLANNER FOR THE RECORD. 
          THE CITY IS PREPARING FOR THE UPCOMING SOUTH TEXAS MUSIC FESTIVAL AND EVENT THAT CELEBRATES THE RICH MUSICAL HISTORY OF SOMEBODY ETHYL. 
          WE STRIVE TO CONTINUE TO PROVIDE TOP QUALITY ENTERTAINMENT FOR OUR RESIDENTS AND OUR VISITORS APPROVAL WITH, FOR THIS ITEM WILL ALLOW US TO SECURE AN AWARD-WINNING HEADLINING BAND TO PERFORM AT THE EVENT. 
          STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL, ALICIA TO THE QUESTIONS. 
          NO MORE CONTROL OF WHO IS PRESENTING. 
          OKAY. 
          I'VE GOT A MOTION BY A PUTIN VIA FRANCO. 
          SECOND, SECOND, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER. 
          GOT ONE ALL IN FAVOR. 
          AYE. 
          AYE. 
          ANY NAYS MOTION PASSES. 
          THANK YOU. 
          [25. Consideration and possible action to approve a Concession Agreement with the 80’s Bar and Grill, LLC to provide alcoholic beverage sales at the 2022 South Texas Music Festival on Saturday, September 24, 2022.]
I REMEMBER 25 CONSIDERATION POSSIBLE ACTION TO APPROVE THE CONCESSION AGREEMENT WITH THE EIGHTIES BAR AND GRILL LLC TO PROVIDE ALCOHOL BEVERAGES SELL FOR THE 2022 SOUTH TEXAS MUSICAL FESTIVAL ON SATURDAY, SEPTEMBER 24TH, 2022. 
          AND MS. NIKKI SAID A HUNDRED PERCENT OF THE CENTER MAYOR AND COMMISSIONERS, NIKKI SERRANO PARKS AND RECREATION, SPECIAL PROJECTS PLANNER. 
          AGAIN FOR THE RECORD, OUR UPCOMING EVENT, SOUTH TEXAS MUSIC FESTIVAL WILL FEATURE MUSIC, LIVE MUSIC, FOOD VENDORS, ARTS AND CRAFTS VENDORS, 
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SMALL CARNIVAL RIDES AND ADULT BEVERAGES. 
          THIS ITEM IS TO APPROVE THE TERMS AND CONDITIONS IN THE CONCESSION AGREEMENT WITH EIGHTIES BAR AND GRILL A LOCAL AND WELL-KNOWN ESTABLISHMENT TO PROVIDE PROFESSIONAL CONCESSION SERVICES AT THE EVENT. 
          STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL. 
          OKAY. 
          WE'VE HEARD THEM BEFORE, RIGHT? YES, SIR. 
          DAVE WE'RE AT RASAKA FESTA ANA  AS WELL. 
          YEAH. 
          ANY QUESTIONS? MOTION TO APPROVE THEIR MOTION BY TIBIA FRANKLIN SECOND COMMISSIONER GARCIA. 
          ALL IN FAVOR. 
          ANY NAYS MOTION PASSES. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          [26. Consideration and possible action to approve the Fiscal Year 2022 — 2023 Annual Action Plan for the Community Development Block Grant (CDBG) funding, and authorize the mayor to sign the corresponding application for Federal Assistance.]
I REMEMBER 26 CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO APPROVE FISCAL YEAR 2022 DASH 2023. 
          UM, AND YOUR ACTION PLAN FOR THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT CDBG FUNDING AND AUTHORIZED THE MAYOR TO SIGN THE CORRESPONDENT APPLICANT FOR FEDERAL ASSISTANCE AND MR. MARTINE SCIENCE PRESENTED CENTER. 
          GOOD EVENING, MAYOR MAYOR PRO TEM COMMISSIONERS FOR THE RECORD MARTIJN SCIENCE CDBG COORDINATOR IN PRACTICE. 
          THIS IS A FINAL ANNUAL ACTION PLAN FOR THE CDBG GRANT YEAR 48, FISCAL YEAR 2020 TO 2023 PER FEDERAL REQUIREMENTS. 
          THERE WAS A PUBLICATION IN DISSEMINATOR NEWS, WHICH OCCURRED ON JUNE 24TH AND TWO PUBLIC HEARINGS, WHICH WERE HELD ON JULY 6TH AND JULY 19TH. 
          IT ALSO REQUIRES A 31 DAY COMMON PERIOD, WHICH ENDED ON JULY 25TH. 
          TONIGHT'S STAFF RECOMMENDS THE FINAL APPROVAL OF THE ALLOCATIONS. 
          YOU NOTED DURING THE JULY 19TH MEETING, THE ALLOCATIONS WERE AS FOLLOWS MAGGIE'S HOUSE, CASA AND SUCH HAD HAVEN EACH BEING AWARDED $12,309 STEP RECOMMENDS APPROVAL. 
          AND I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS TO MAKE SURE. 
          IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS DON'T HAVE MOTION, MOTION TO APPROVE. 
          WE'VE GOT A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER GARCIA SECOND BY A MIRROR PUTIN VIA FRANCO ALL IN FAVOR. 
          ANY NAYS MOTION PASSES. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU, SIR. 
          D 
          [27. Consideration and possible action to rescind the nomination for Place 3 to the Traffic and Safety Board Advisory Committee (TSBAC) made on June 21, 2022.]
I REMEMBER 27 CONSIDERATION POSSIBLE ACTION TO RESIGN, RESIGN THE NOMINEE, A NOMINATION FOR PLACE THREE TO THE TRAFFIC SAFETY BOARD ADVISORY COMMITTEE, T S B A C MADE ON JUNE, 2020, UH, 2021 POINT, UH, UH, 2022. 
          AND MR.  PRESENTED SOME THANK YOU, MAYOR MAYOR PRO TEM COMMISSIONERS FOR THE RECORD, FRED BELL ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER ON JUNE 21ST, 2022, THE MAYOR NOMINATED RESIDENTS, TWO PLACES, THREE AND FIVE OF THE TRAFFIC SAFETY BOARD ADVISORY COMMITTEE. 
          THE NOMINATIONS WERE APPROVED BY MAJORITY OF THE COMMISSIONERS AND ATTENDANCE. 
          DURING THAT MEETING ORDINANCE NUMBER 2, 3, 5, 6 WAS REFERENCED AS THE ORDINANCE OF RECORD. 
          THAT ORDINANCE WAS ADOPTED ON JUNE 21ST, 2005, AND IT GRANTED THE MAYOR, THE SOLE RIGHT TO APPOINT ALL FIVE MEMBERS TO THE COMMITTEE WITH THE CONSENT OF THE COMMISSION PRIOR TO SCHEDULING THE SWEARING IN OF THE NEWLY APPOINTED MEMBERS OF THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE STAFF DISCOVERED THAT ORDINANCE NUMBER 2, 3, 5, 6 WAS NOT THE CURRENT ONE IN EFFECT ORDINANCE 2, 5, 2 5, WHICH WAS ADOPTED AUGUST 4TH, 2015, SET THE CRITERIA FOR BOARDS AND ADVISORY COMMITTEE APPOINTMENTS. 
          A COPY OF THAT ORDINANCE IS IN YOUR PACKET, NO OTHER ORDINANCES THAT REPEAL OR OTHERWISE SUPERSEDE THIS ORDINANCE HAD BEEN LOCATED. 
          THIS ORDINANCE GRANTS, EACH COMMISSIONER, AN APPOINTMENT WITH CONSENT OF THE COMMISSION ON ALL BOARDS AND ADVISORY COMMITTEES. 
          UNLESS THOSE THAT ARE IN CONFLICT WITH STATE LAW INCLUDED IN YOUR PACKET AS A SPREADSHEET, PROVIDING THE APPOINTMENTS AND SERVICE TERMS OF THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS, PLACE FIVE AS THE MAYOR'S APPOINTMENT SINCE NO NOMINATION WAS MADE FOR PLACE FOR MR. REEL'S CONTINUES TO SERVE IN THAT POSITION. 
          HOWEVER, PLACE THREE APPOINTMENT BELONGS TO COMMISSIONER GALVAN. 
          THEREFORE THE APPOINTMENT MADE BY THE MAYOR FOR PLACE THREE NEEDS TO BE RESCINDED IN ORDER FOR THE APPOINTMENT TO BE MADE IN ACCORDANCE WITH ORDINANCE NUMBER 25, 25 STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF THE RESCINDING. 
          OKAY. 
          SO MOTION TO RESCIND. 
          THAT'S CORRECT. 
          MR. BELL, WHO WAS SITTING ON A PLACE BEFORE ON PLACE. 
          THAT WAS, UH, ACTUALLY MR. GARCIA, BUT I HAD ALREADY MADE IT. 
          YOU STEPPED DOWN, HE STEPPED DOWN. 
          THAT IS CORRECT. 
          SO IT WAS ALSO A VACANT POSITION. 
          UM, AS FAR AS THE ORDINANCE, I WENT ONTO THE CITY WEBSITE AND THE CITY ORDINANCES. 
          I FORGOT WHO WE CONTRACT WITH. 
          AND I THINK THAT'S WHERE CAPTAIN CORTEZ GOT HIS INFORMATION FROM. 
          AND THAT'S WHERE I WENT TO GO LOOK UP THE ORDINANCE. 
          THE OLD ONE IS STILL ON THE CITY WEBSITE. 
          SO AFTER AN ORDINANCE IS ADOPTED, IT BRINGS UP THE QUESTION WHO GOES AND UPLOADS IT ON THERE AND PUTS IN, HAVE THE ACCURACY ONLINE. 
          DO WE, DO WE, FRANKLIN LEGAL IS THE, UH, THE VENDOR THAT DATES IT. 
          SO SOMEONE FROM HERE HAS TO BE A LIAISON, 
          [02:00:01]
I GUESS A, HEY, WE JUST ADOPTED A NEW ORDINANCE. 
          CAN YOU UPLOAD IT? THE CITY SECRETARY COMMISSIONER AND THAT CITY SECRETARY TIRED ABOUT 2019. 
          SHE WAS HERE FOR ABOUT 40 YEARS OLD. 
          MAYBE SHE MADE A MISTAKE. 
          I DON'T KNOW. 
          YEAH. 
          SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE SECRETARY THAT WE HAVE A PROCESS. 
          SO NOW WE CAN GO BACK AND FIX IT. 
          THAT IS CORRECT. 
          YES. 
          SO IT'S ACCURATE UP THERE BECAUSE I STILL READ THE OLD ONE. 
          THAT IS CORRECT, SIR. 
          YEAH, BECAUSE I THINK IT WAS, THIS IS WHAT'S PRESENTED ME. 
          SO WHEN I SAY MAYOR GOMEZ, MAYOR GOMEZ, MAYOR GOMEZ. 
          WELL, SO TODAY Y'ALL WERE FOLLOWING THE OLD ORDINANCE FOR AWHILE. 
          YUP. 
          I THINK IT WAS JUST THAT IT LOOKS LIKE I DON'T RECALL. 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          WE KNOW ONE OF THE CHALLENGES THAT, UH, THE CITY SECRETARY IS TRYING TO LOCATE THESE ORDINANCE. 
          UH, WE FOUND SOME THAT AREN'T FRANKLY WRITING SOMEWHERE AND WE'RE STARTING TO GET THEM, UH, MAKE SURE THAT THEY CAN BE CODIFIED. 
          OKAY. 
          SO, UH, ONCE WE GET SOMEBODY TO, OKAY, FIRST OF ALL, WHEN I'M WALKING TO PRESENT,  SECOND BY COMMISSIONER GARCIA, ALL IN FAVOR. 
          AYE. 
          IN NACE. 
          WHAT'S THE PROCESS TO SEND US. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU SO NOW. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THAT WAS IT. 
          SO NOW IT'S OPEN AGAIN. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, 
          [28. Consideration and possible action to approve the appointment or re-appointment of the Traffic and Safety Board Advisory Committee (TSBAC):]
I DON'T REMEMBER. 
          28 CONSIDERATION OF POSSIBLE ACTION TO APPROVE THE APPOINTMENT OR REAPPOINTMENT INTERPRETATE THE BOARD, UH, P S B A C A PLACE THREE EXPIRED ON MAY 31ST, 2024. 
          AND MR.  PRESENTED SOME AGAIN, MAYOR MENTIONED THIS AS DISCUSSED IN THE PREVIOUS ITEM, PLAYS THREE OF THE TRAFFIC SAFETY BOARD ADVISOR COMMITTEE BELONGS TO CHEMISTRY, GALVAN WHO CAN MAKE A NOMINATION FOR THE COMMISSION APPROVAL. 
          SO COMMISSIONER GALVAN, IT'S YOUR NOMINATION. 
          I DON'T HAVE A NOMINATION. 
          MR. BELL JUST FOUND OUT ABOUT THIS ON FRIDAY, SO I WILL HAVE TO TABLE IT AND THEN GET BACK TO YOU ACTUALLY, ARE WE STILL DOING, UM, THE APPLICATION PROCESS? WAS IT POSTED ONLINE TO HAVE SOME FORM OF, WAS THAT FOR, WE HAVE RECEIVED APPLICATIONS OF PEOPLE BELIEVE THAT TURNING INTO THE CITY SECRETARY'S OFFICE. 
          OKAY, COOL. 
          I CAN TAKE A LOOK AT THOSE AND THEN I CAN DO MY OWN ADVERTISEMENT TO SEE WHO HAS AN INTEREST. 
          I THINK PREFERABLY SOMEONE IN LAW ENFORCEMENT OR WORKING WITH TXDOT, RIGHT. 
          MAYBE WE CAN GET OPTIONS. 
          OKAY. 
          I HAVE SOME IDEAS. 
          WE'LL TELL YOU WHAT FOR NOW. 
          THANK YOU GUYS. 
          I'VE GOT A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER GABON. 
          SECOND BY  ALL THE PAPER BY ANY NAYS MOTION PASSES TO TABLE NUMBER 28. 
          [29. Executive Session:]
OKAY. 
          ADAM ARE 29 EXECUTIVE SESSION CONSULT WITH A CITY ATTORNEY PURSUANT TO A TEXT. 
          THE GOVERNMENT QUOTES 5 5, 2 0.1071 TO DISCUSS BRODY'S COMMUNICATION PROTECTED BY THE ATTORNEY, CLIENT PRIVILEGE AND ITEM NUMBER 29. 
          BEING CONSULT WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY PURSUANT TO GOVERNMENT CODE 5 5 1 0.07118 REGARDING POTENTIAL ANTICIPATED THE LITIGATIONS AND THE TIME IS, AND MAYOR DON'T FORGET. 
          AGENDA ITEM NUMBER NINE, PERTAINING TO THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE CITY OF SAN BENITO EMERGENCY WATER CONSERVATION PLAN. 
          YES, AND I DON'T REMEMBER NINE WILL BE ALSO TAKEN INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THE TIME IS, UH, 7 34 AND WE'RE IN EXECUTIVE SESSION. 
          MS. HARRIS. 
          IT'S A NINE 17 WE'RE BACK FROM EXECUTIVE SESSION. 
          AND, UH, 
          [9. Discussion of the implementation of the City of San Benito Emergency Water Conservation Plan in accordance with Ordinance Number 2376.]
SO ITEM NUMBER NINE, MAYOR AND COMMISSIONERS, UH, ON ITEM NUMBER NINE, I PLAN TO IMPLEMENT, UH, ORDINANCE NUMBER 2376, WHICH IS THE CITY'S EMERGENCY WATER CONSERVATION PLAN. 
          AND BASED ON THE RECENT LEVELS AT THE, UH, FALCON, AND I'M GONNA START RESERVOIRS, UH, STAGE TWO OF THAT ORDINANCE IS APPLICABLE. 
          SO WE WILL BE PUBLISHING NOTICE TAKING EFFECT, UH, LIKE IT'S SATURDAY AT MIDNIGHT. 
          SO, UH, THE ONLY THING I ASKED IS THAT A, UH, THE SURCHARGE THAT'S NOTED IN ORDINANCE NUMBER 23, 76 FOR STAGE TWO AND STAGE THREE, I KIND OF REQUEST, UH, OR I DO NOT PLAN TO IMPOSE IT UNLESS AT SOME FUTURE DATE, THE CITY COMMISSION SAYS THAT WE WILL FOLLOW THAT. 
          SO NO ACTION WILL BE TAKEN. 
          UH, I'M ASKING UNLESS I HEAR OTHERWISE. 
          SO WE'RE NOT IMPOSING IT. 
          UH, NO SURCHARGE, THERE WILL BE ADDITIONAL CHARGES SHOULD, UH, SHOULD WE HAVE TO BUY EMERGENCY WATER OR PUSH WATER AS PHRASED IN THE AGREEMENT. 
          AND AGAIN, THAT IS ONLY AFTER I COME BACK TO YOU FOR APPROVAL AND WE WORK OUT A RATE, BUT AGAIN, UH, HOPEFULLY THIS, UH, WATER CRISIS, UH, DOESN'T WORSEN OTHER THAN STAGE TWO, AND MAYBE WE CAN GO BACK TO ENJOYING OUR LIVES IN THE FUTURE, BUT IF NOT, WE NEED TO BE PREPARED TO NOT HAVE ENOUGH WATER TO THAT. 
          WE WOULD HAVE TO MINIMIZE ITS CONSUMPTION BY EVERYONE THAT CONSUMES OUR WATER. 
          [02:05:01]
MANY, JUST KEEP AS A TIP AS A BARISTA, AS FAR AS ONCE A MONTH OR EVERY TWO WEEKS OR HOWEVER YOU SEE FIT THAT YOU SEE SOMETHING DIFFERENT OR COMING IN THAT THE, YOU KNOW, INFORMATION, UH, BRINGING IT TO, WE WILL SET THIS, UH, AT THE FIRST MEETING OF EVERY MONTH. 
          AND IF WE NEED TO AT EVERY MEETING, BECAUSE IT BECOMES, UH, THE CRISIS WORSENS, WE WILL PUT IT ON FOR DISCUSSION. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          SO I DON'T REMEMBER NINE. 
          UH, DO I HAVE A MOTION AS DISCUSSED? UH, IN, AS I MENTIONED BY A CITY MANAGER, YOU HAD A MOTION BY MR. GARCIA, SECOND, SECOND BY A MERKEL, TIM FRANCO, ALL IN FAVOR, ANY NAYS MOTION PASSES. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THAT'S A, SO WE'RE GOING TO GO TO ITEM NUMBER 32. 
          GERMANS. 
          DO I HAVE MARY, IF YOU WILL, BEFORE YOU CLOSE, JUST MAKE A COMMENT THAT FOR THE EXECUTIVE SESSION ITEMS, UH, ITEMS 29, 8 29, THERE WAS NO ACTION. 
          OKAY. 
          I'M SORRY. 
          YES. 
          OR, UM, W IT WAS NUMBER 29, 8 AND 29 B. 
          UH, THERE WAS NO ACTION TAKEN AND NOW I HAD A NUMBER 32, A GERMAN. 
          DO I HAVE A MOTION TO ADJOURN? IS THERE MOTION BY MR. GARCIA? SECOND, SECOND BY MERKEL IN FRANCO, ALL IN FAVOR. 
          ANY NAYS MOTION PROCESSED TO ADJOURN AND TIME IS NINE 20 AND WHERE JOURN.
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