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[1. Welcome. ]

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NO, IT WAS A REGULAR MEETING OF THE CITY.

SOMEBODY TOLD US THE CITY COMMISSION IT'S TUESDAY, MARCH 15TH, 2022 WITH FIVE 30, LIKE TO WELCOME EVERYBODY AND LIKE TO CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER, WE HAVE A QUORUM.

I REMEMBER TO PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE, TO US FLAG AND TICKETS BLACK, AND PLEASE REMAIN STANDING FOR THE INVOCATION BUYER WHO MR. DAVID FABIOLA, UNDER THE TEXAS FLAG.

I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THEE, TEXAS, ONE STATE UNDER GOD.

ONE, LET US PRAY GLORIOUS AND BLESSED LORD.

WE PLACE OUR WORK AND OURSELVES INTO YOUR HANDS, ANOINT OUR CREATIVITY, OUR IDEAS, AND OUR ENERGY.

SO THAT EVEN THE SMALLEST TASK MAY BRING YOU HONOR, LORD.

WHEN WE ARE CHALLENGED GUIDE US, WHEN WE ARE WEARY, ENERGIZE US, MAY THE WORK THAT WE DO AND THE WAY THAT WE DO IT, BRING HELP, HOPE, AND HAPPINESS, TO ALL WHOM WE MINISTER BLESS US WITH WISDOM, DISCERNMENT, COMMITMENT, AND COMPASSION ROOTED IN YOUR LOVE.

MAY WE MAY YOU ALUMINATE ALL OUR ACTIVITIES WHICH ARE DONE IN YOUR NAME.

AMEN.

[4. Announcements: Items of Community Interest. ]

OKAY.

I DIDN'T KNOW FOR ANNOUNCEMENT, THE ITEMS OF COMMUNITY INTEREST IN IS THE COMMISSION HAS, UH, ANY, UH, ANY ANNOUNCEMENT UH, THIS IS YOU GAVE ME A WHAT'S THIS UP FOR US.

OKAY.

FOR ALL SUDDEN.

OKAY.

WELL, UM, I DIDN'T HAVE SOMETHING ABOUT THE COMMUNITY ANNOUNCEMENT.

UH, I KNOW THAT THE COUNTY, UH, THEY REACHED OUT TO US AND, UH, THEY HAVE, UH, TWO PROJECTS THAT, UH, THAT WERE BEING HELD WITHIN SOME NATO, UH, CONNECTING, UH, 5 1 9 AND SAM HOUSTON AND THE OTHER ONE ON, UH, WILLIAMS TO 509 ALSO.

UH, THAT'S A LOT OF POTENTIAL FOR US, UH, FOR SOMEBODY TO, TO GROW A LOT.

SOME OF IT IS A RECYCLE PROPERTY, WHICH IS A LOT MORE FOR US ALSO.

AND, UH, I JUST WANT TO THANK THE, UH, THE COUNTY COUNTY, UH, EDDIE, UH, THE JUDGE AND ALL THE COMMISSIONERS, YOU KNOW, FOR, UH, GIVING US ALL THIS, UH, YOU KNOW, THIS GROWTH THAT HE'S HAS.

AND, UM, LIKE I SAID, THERE'S, WE ALL GOT INVITED FOR IT.

AND, UM, LIKE I SAID, SO SOMEBODY HAD SOMEBODY WHO WAS MOVING, UH, HOPEFULLY WE CAN GROW MORE WITH MORE FAMILIES IN HERE.

OKAY.

SO, UH, THAT WAS WHAT I WANTED TO BRING UP TO THE PUBLIC ALSO COMMISSIONERS, ANY OTHER ITEMS? NONE.

OKAY.

UM,

[5. Public Comments - (Speaker/Remarks limited to three minutes. Not more th an three speakers on one topic.) ]

I REMEMBER FIVE PUBLIC COMMENTS.

RUTH.

DO WE HAVE ANYBODY FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS? YES.

MAYOR WE HAVE MR. MANUEL, MR. REESE.

UH, YES.

MY NAME IS MANUEL REESE.

UH, I LIVE IN A 1 71 SOUTH CROCKETT.

I, UH, HAVE A PROPERTY AT, UH, 2 61 WEST EXPRESSWAY, 83.

I BEEN COMING UP WITH A PROBLEM THAT IT'S A COMMERCIAL AREA AND, UM, I WAS GOING TO RENT THE PROPERTY, BUT THEN, UH, THE RENTER THAT I RENTED TO THAT THEY CANNOT OPEN THE WATER, THAT THERE IS A PROBLEM.

UH, WE HAVEN'T HAD NO REALLY ANSWERED FROM, UH, THE, UH, ACCORDING TO THE RENTER, WHICH IS HERE, SHE'S HERE.

SHE SAID THAT SHE HADN'T GOTTEN NO ANSWER, BUT SO I HAD TO COME OVER HERE AND TRY TO GET SOME INFORMATION.

UM, ALSO LEFT MY NAME, PHONE NUMBER AND NEVER GOT NOBODY GOT BACK TO ME, FINALLY CAME AND TALKED TO MR. HERNANDEZ

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AND THEY CAN RUN THIS.

AND HE GAVE ME SOME, UH, SOME ANSWERS THAT I PROBABLY WASN'T SATISFIED WITH IT.

AND, UH, I WANT TO KNOW MORE ABOUT IT BECAUSE, UH, IT'S JUST KINDA, THIS IS THE WAY IT IS AND THAT'S THE WAY IT'S GOING TO BE.

UH, SO, UM, I WASN'T SATISFIED OF THE ANSWER.

AND SO TRYING TO FIND OUT SOME MORE, BECAUSE IT DETAINS ME FROM RENTING THE PLACE, MAKING MONEY FOR MYSELF AND FOR THE CITY, I HAVE TO PAY TEXAS.

AND HOW AM I GOING TO HAVE THE BUSINESS IF I CANNOT OPEN IT? SO, UH, THERE'S SOME OTHER THINGS, YOU KNOW, THAT, UH, IT'S A COMMERCIAL.

AND, UH, BEFORE MY PARENTS HAD IT AS A COMMERCIAL WITH A RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL, BUT NOW IT'S SAYING THAT, UH, I CAN'T HAVE BOTH.

SO I NEVER HAD ANY, ANY, UH, LETTER OR SAY WHAT WAS GOING TO CHANGE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT UNTIL YOU COME UP WITH A PROBLEM.

SO IT'S LIKE A, Y HAS AN, IT, THE CITY SAID, PUT A NEWSLETTER.

A, THESE THINGS ARE COMING UP FOR CHANGES OR WHATEVER, BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW WHAT IT'S WRITTEN ON.

THE ORDINANCE CITY, ORDINANCE LAWS, WHATEVER.

AND EVERYBODY JUST SAYS HERE, AND SOMETIMES IT'S, WE'RE NOT, WE DON'T HAVE ALL THAT KNOWLEDGE.

AND WHEN WE COME TO US, IT'S NOT ALL THEY'RE SATISFIED.

NO, THIS IS THE WAY IT IS.

SO THAT'S PRETTY MUCH MY QUESTION, SIR.

I'D LIKE TO KNOW MORE, UH, BECAUSE I CANNOT RENT THE PLACE AND I LOSE, AND I ALSO HAVE TO PAY MY TAXES, BUT HOW CAN I PAY MY TEXAS IF I DON'T MAKE NO.

OKAY.

OKAY, SIR.

WE'LL SEE.

WE CAN GET SOMEBODY TO TALK TO YOU.

ANYBODY ELSE WAS MS. JENNY CHEWY? NO, WHEN I STARTED, THIS IS THE IS THE RUTH

[6. Consideration and possible action to approve the Minutes of the December 7, 2021 Regular City Commission Meeting. ]

OKAY.

I DON'T REMEMBER SIX, A CONSIDERATION POSSIBLE ACTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES OF DECEMBER 7, 20, 21, REGULAR CITY COMMISSION MEETING.

DO ANY QUESTIONS, UM, RICHARD, YOU HAD ON THE REVIEW OF THE MINUTES, MANNY, I NOTICED, UM, IT WAS IN THE DISCUSSION AND EXECUTIVE SESSION FOR THE CONTRACT WITH, UM, US WATER SERVICES.

WHAT WAS DISCUSSED IN EXECUTIVE SESSION WAS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WAS IN THE TERMS OF THE AGREEMENT.

SO HOW WOULD WE GO ABOUT DISCUSSING THAT? UH, FROM WHAT WE DISCUSSED IN EXECUTIVE SESSION, I THINK WAS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN THE CONTRACT THAT WAS FORWARDED TO US.

UM, COMMISSIONER, WHAT ITEM ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? UM, YOU KNOW, YEAH.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE MINUTES.

YEAH, NO,

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MY QUESTION IS, LET'S SEE, IT WAS ITEM 20 IN THE MINUTES, 24 8, I GUESS.

SO MY QUESTION IS THE CONTRACT THAT WE RECEIVED THROUGH EMAIL I KNOW IS, IS DISCUSSED IN EXECUTIVE SESSION.

WE CAN'T REVIEW IT NOW, BUT HOW CAN WE GO BACK AND LOOK AT THAT CONTRACT AGAIN? BECAUSE WHAT WE, WHAT WAS DISCUSSED WAS IT, IT WAS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WAS IN THE CONTRACT, AMERICAN MISSIONARIES.

I THINK IT'D BE BEST IF WE PUT THAT ITEM BACK ON THE EXECUTIVE SESSION AND AT THE NEXT MEETING, AND WE CAN BRING THAT, THAT SAME CONTRACT BACK.

OKAY.

SO WE DO TABLE THIS ITEM, BUT THERE'S NO TABLE.

I MEAN, IT'S JUST ASKING A QUESTION ABOUT THE MINUTES.

SO IT'S WORDED SO THAT THE DISCUSSION THAT OCCURS THERE ARE PRIVILEGED, RIGHT.

AND THE CITY ATTORNEY WILL TELL YOU EXACTLY HAD, SO THE CONTRACT THAT WAS PROVIDED, UH, IT'S SOMETHING THAT WAS EXECUTED BASED ON THAT TOPIC.

SO ME, UH, COMMISSIONER GALVAN BELIEVES THAT IT'S, THAT IT'S NOT EXACTLY WHAT WAS DISCUSSED.

THE OTHER FOUR, THE MAYOR, OR THE THREE COMMISSIONERS MAY NOT BE IN AGREEMENT, OR YOU MAY BE SO THAT, THAT DISCUSSION SHOULD CONTINUE AT THE NEXT MEETING AND EXECUTIVE SESSION.

OKAY.

I THINK HIS QUESTION IS THAT BECAUSE IT'S ON THE AGENDA TO APPROVE THE MINUTES.

WELL, YEAH, THE MINUTES ARE, YOU DON'T HAVE TO TAKE ACTION ON THE MINUTES, BUT THERE'S NO ITEM IN THERE THAT SAYS EXACTLY WHAT WAS DISCUSSED IN EXECUTIVE SESSION.

RIGHT.

SO, BUT THE MINUTES, YEAH.

MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES, UH, MINUTES ARE APPROPRIATE.

MY CONCERN WAS JUST THE DISCUSSION IN THE BACKGROUND.

HOW DO WE GO ABOUT LOOKING AT THAT AGAIN? AND MANNY ANSWERED IT, SO, OKAY.

SO I'VE GOT A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES AS THEY ARE, RIGHT.

AND, UH, BY COMMISSIONER VIA BRONCO SECOND BY COMMISSIONER GARCIA AND OKAY.

AND ALL IN FAVOR, ANY NAYS MOTION PASSES TO APPROVE THE MINUTES.

OKAY.

[7. Update on the City of San Benito, Texas General Obligation Refunding Bonds, Series 2022, by Mr. Don Gonzales, CPA, Senior Managing Director, Estrada, Hinojosa & Company. ]

I DON'T REMEMBER SEVEN CONSIDERATION.

I MEAN, I'M SORRY.

I DON'T REMEMBER SEVEN UPDATE ON THE CITY OR SOME OF NATO TAKES A GENERAL OBLIGATION BONDS SERIES OF 2022 BY MR. DON WAS ALL CPA, UH, SENIOR MANAGEMENT DIRECTOR, HIS BROTHER, JOSE AND COMPANY.

AND MR. DON WAS ALICE PRESENTED THE CENTER.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COMMISSIONERS FOR THE RECORD.

MY NAME IS DON GONZALES WITH THE STRATEGY AND THE HOSA WE SERVE AS FINANCIAL ADVISOR TO THE CITY OF SAN BENITO.

AND WITH ME THIS EVENING IS MATT LOU HAHN WITH OUR FIRM.

UH, IT'S GOOD TO BE HERE THIS EVENING.

WE HAVE GOOD NEWS TO REPORT.

UH, AS YOU RECALL, I BELIEVE ABOUT, UM, ABOUT SIX WEEKS AGO, YOU GAVE US AUTHORIZATION TO MOVE FORWARD WITH A SMALL REFUNDING.

IT WAS JUST UNDER TWO AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS.

AND WE WERE ABLE TO COMPLETE THAT, UH, RIGHT BEFORE WE SAW INTEREST RATES REALLY START TO INCREASE.

AND IN FACT, I WOULD SAY TO YOU THAT IF WE WERE RECEIVING THE AUTHORIZATION TODAY, UH, THE TRANSACTION PROBABLY WOULD NOT BE GOING FORWARD BECAUSE INTEREST RATES HAVE MOVED UP AND THE SAVINGS WOULD NOT BE ACHIEVED.

SO WE'RE VERY PLEASED TO HAVE GOTTEN IT DONE WHEN WE DID.

AND WE THANK YOU FOR THE AUTHORIZATION WHEN YOU DID BACK IN JANUARY, UH, TO BE ABLE TO EXECUTE THIS, UM, THE FINANCING TEAM AS SHOWN ON PAGE.

ONE OF THE CITY OF SAN BENITO IS THE ISSUER A STUDY IN A HOSA AND COMPANY'S FINANCIAL ADVISOR, NORTON ROSE FULBRIGHT AS BOND COUNSEL.

UH, THE PURCHASER OF THE DEBT WAS AMEGY BANK.

THE PAYING AGENT WAS BANK OF NEW YORK MELLON TRUST AND THE RATINGS, WE DID NOT HAVE TO OBTAIN RATINGS FOR THIS TRANSACTION.

IT WAS SMALL.

SO WE SAVED THOSE COSTS.

UH, BUT JUST SO THAT YOU'RE AWARE OF THE UNDERLYING CREDIT RATING FOR THE CITY, UH, BY MOODY'S IS AN, A ONE BY STANDARD.

AND POOR'S IS A SINGLE A AND BY FITCH RATINGS IS A AA ON PAGE TWO, UH, IS THE HISTORICAL TAX RATE INFORMATION FOR THE CITY.

YOU CAN SEE BOTH THE M AND O TAX RATE, WHICH IS FOR YOUR GENERAL FUND AND THEN THE DEBT SERVICE TAX RATE, WHICH IS THE INS OR THE INTEREST IN SINKING FUND TAX RATE.

AND THEN THE TOTAL TAX RATE ON THE FAR, RIGHT.

UH, YOU WILL NOTICE THAT, UH, THE TAX RATE HAS REMAINED CONSTANT

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SINCE 2014.

SO THERE'S NOT BEEN ANY TAX INCREASE OR DECREASE.

UH, ALSO JUST BY WAY OF, OF, UH, JUST FACTUAL INFORMATION FROM WHAT WE UNDERSTAND, UH, 2014 WAS THE LAST TIME THAT THERE WAS A INCREASE IN THE WATER AND SEWER RATES.

SO IT'S BEEN A NUMBER OF YEARS WHERE THE CITY HAS BEEN ABLE TO KEEP WATER AND SEWER RATES FLAT, AS WELL AS KEEPING THE TAX RATE FLAT, UH, FOR, I GUESS, UH, GOING ON SEVEN YEARS NOW ON THE FOLLOWING PAGE, WE HAVE WHAT WE CALL THE SOURCES AND USES STATEMENT.

UH, SO THE AMOUNT OF, UH, BONDS THAT WERE ISSUED WERE 2 MILLION, 470,000, UH, THE ISSUER, UH, WHICH IS THE CITY OF SAN BENITO, MADE A CONTRIBUTION TOWARDS THE PAYMENT BASED ON INTEREST THAT WAS ALREADY COLLECTED BASED ON THE TAX RATE THAT WAS ADOPTED, UH, BACK IN SEPTEMBER.

AND SO $6,025 WAS CONTRIBUTED TO THAT FOR A TOTAL SOURCES, UH, 2 MILLION, 4 76, 0 25, AND THEN THE USES OF FUNDS.

UH, THERE WAS A CASH DEPOSIT THAT WAS MADE AT 2 MILLION, $416,025 THAT WENT TO PAY OFF THE 2012 CERTIFICATES OF OBLIGATION.

AND THE COST OF ISSUANCE FOR COMPLETION WAS $60,000 ON THE FOLLOWING PAGE FOUR.

UH, WE HAVE THE SAVINGS THAT WAS ASSOCIATED WITH THE 2012.

YOU CAN SEE THE MATURITIES RANGE FROM 2023 TO 2032.

UH, THEY WERE 3% COUPONS, THE PAR MOUNTAIN RANGE FROM 210,000 TO 275,000 FOR A TOTAL OF 2 MILLION, FOUR 10.

UH, THE CALL DATE, UH, ACTUALLY JUST PASSED ON MARCH 1ST.

UH, SO WE ACTUALLY CLOSED ON THESE BONDS AT THE END OF FEBRUARY AND THEN PAID THEM OFF ON MARCH 1ST.

SO THESE BONDS HAVE BEEN PAID OFF FOR THOSE MATURITIES 2023 THROUGH 2032, UH, THE 2022 MATURITY WAS NOT PART OF THE REFUNDING SINCE YOU HAD ALREADY SET THE TAX RATE FOR THAT.

UH, IT WAS BETTER FOR US TO NOT INCREASE THE BOND SIZE AND KEEP THE COST OF ISSUANCE LOWER BY NOT INCREASING THE BOND SIZE, BECAUSE YOU HAD ALREADY SET THE TAX RATE TO MAKE THAT PAYMENT ON, UH, ON MARCH THE FIRST.

SO THE CITY MADE THAT REGULAR PAYMENT ON, UH, I'M SORRY, ON FEBRUARY 1ST, UH, THE MATURITY PAYMENT FOR, UH, 2022 ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE TABLE, AS YOU CAN SEE, UH, THE PRIOR DEBT SERVICE, WHICH IS THE, OF THE PAYMENT THAT WAS MADE FOR 2022, THAT 36,001 50 ALL THE WAY THROUGH THE 279,125 TOTALS UP TO 2 MILLION 8 25, UH, THE ISSUE OF CONTRIBUTION IN THAT NEXT COLUMN, AND THEN THE REFUNDING DEBT SERVICE.

THAT'S WHAT WE ACTUALLY, UH, REFUNDED THE BONDS WITH.

THIS IS WHAT THE, UH, AMOUNT OF DEBT SERVICE IS GOING TO BE PER YEAR.

AND THEN YOU CAN SEE THE SAVINGS IN THAT SECOND TO THE LAST COLUMN, UH, RANGING FROM A LOW OF ABOUT $5,300 TO A HIGH OF $10,180 FOR A TOTAL OF 87,000 TO 25 ON A PRESENT VALUE BASIS, 79,000 3 74.

UH, AS YOU PROBABLY WILL RECALL, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE SAID TO THE CITY COMMISSION WAS, UH, IN A TRANSACTION LIKE THIS THAT'S VERY SMALL.

UH, WE WOULD ONLY RECOMMEND PURSUING THIS.

IF THE SAVINGS HIT A COUPLE OF METRICS, ONE OF THEM WAS THAT WE HAVE MORE SAVINGS THAN WHAT THE COST OF ISSUANCE WAS GOING TO BE.

AND AS YOU CAN SEE THERE, UH, IN THE ASTERIX BELOW THAT RIGHT SIDE TABLE, UH, THE SAVINGS WAS 87,000 TO 25.

UH, THE TOTAL COST OF ISSUANCE, UH, CAME IN AT $60,000, I THINK JUST SLIGHTLY BELOW THAT.

AND, AND SO WE DID ACHIEVE MUCH GREATER SAVINGS THAN THE AMOUNT OF COSTS.

THE SAVINGS OF 87 TO 25 IS AFTER THE PAYMENT OF ALL THE COSTS OF ISSUANCE.

SO JUST WANT, I DON'T WANT YOU TO THINK, WELL, WE ONLY NETTED 27,000.

NOW YOU NETTED 87,000 BECAUSE THAT'S AFTER THE PAYMENT OF ALL THE COSTS OF THE TRANSACTION, THE OTHER METRIC IS IN THE BOTTOM LEFT-HAND CORNER.

AND YOU CAN SEE IN THE GRAY SHADED AREA, UH, THAT FIRST GRAY SHADED AREA, THE LAST LINE PERCENT OF SAVINGS OF REFUNDED BONDS, 3.29, 4%.

SO THE METRIC THAT WE TARGET IS A MINIMUM OF 3%.

SO WE JUST, UH, DID HIT THAT METRIC.

SO THE TWO PRIMARY METRICS

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THAT WE WANTED TO HIT, UH, WE ACHIEVED.

AND LIKE I SAID, IF WE WERE TRYING TO DO THIS TODAY, WE, WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO GET THERE.

THE SAVINGS WOULD HAVE BEEN, MOST OF IT WOULD HAVE BEEN ERODED BY THE HIGHER INTEREST RATES, AS WELL AS THE, UH, THE COST OF ISSUANCE WOULDN'T HAVE CHANGED, BUT THE, THE SAVINGS OF THE 3% OR MORE WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN ABLE TO BE ACHIEVED.

ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS PAGE? YEAH, OF COURSE.

I WAS NOTICING THAT THE COST OF ISSUANCE IS DIFFERENT FROM THE PREVIOUS PRESENTATION.

DO YOU, UH, COULD YOU EXPLAIN HOW THAT, SO NOW, UH, WE ACTUALLY HAVE COSTS THAT ARE LOWER, I BELIEVE, THAN WHAT WE SHOWED LAST TIME.

SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE DID COMMISSIONER WAS LOWER, OUR FEES.

WE'D MADE THAT COMMITMENT, AND WE ALSO ASKED BOND COUNCIL TO LOOK AT LOWERING THEIR FEES.

UH, AT THE TIME, I WILL TELL YOU WHEN WE RECEIVED THE, UH, BIDS FROM FIRMS TO, UH, PURSUE THIS REFUNDING, UH, ONLY ONE, UH, PURCHASER WOULD HAVE MET THE METRICS.

THE OTHERS WERE HIGHER ALREADY.

AND, AND SO WE KNEW WE NEEDED TO LOWER THEM.

SO WE WENT AHEAD AND DID THAT REGARDLESS.

AND SO, UH, THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE DID.

WE'VE HAD A GREAT RELATIONSHIP WITH THE CITY.

UM, I ACTUALLY ENJOYED WORKING WITH THE CITY NOW, I'M STARTING MY 30TH YEAR OF WORKING WITH THE CITY OF SAN BENITO.

SO, UM, LIKE I SAID, IT WAS A COMMITMENT THAT WE MADE AND, AND WE WANTED TO HONOR THAT.

WHAT IS THE TYPICAL PERCENTAGE OF COST OF ISSUANCE OR REFUNDING? IS IT, IS IT BASED OFF OF TOTAL VALUE OR IS IT BEST, IS IT JUST AN ARBITRARY NUMBER? IT'S NOT AN ARBITRARY NUMBER, BUT IT'S ONE THAT IS PRIMARILY DETERMINED, ESPECIALLY BECAUSE THIS IS SUCH A SMALL TRANSACTION.

UM, IT, IT WOULD BE TOUGH TO DO A REFUNDING FOR PROBABLY LESS THAN THE 2 MILLION, ALMOST TWO AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT HERE.

IF IT WERE PROBABLY $2 MILLION, IT PROBABLY WOULD NOT HAVE WORKED.

UM, SO AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THE SAVINGS COLUMN IN THAT TOP RIGHT BOX, UH, THE 20, 27 MATURITY, YOU KNOW, WE ONLY SAVE $5,400 20, 29, 50 $300.

SO, UH, YOU START BRINGING DOWN THE BOND ISSUE SIZE AND THE MINIMUM FEES THAT EVERYONE IS LOOKING TO ACHIEVE IN ORDER TO COMPLETE A TRANSACTION.

UH, IT, IT WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN COST EFFECTIVE TO GOTTEN THAT COMPLETED, BUT I WOULD SAY FOR EXAMPLE, ON A, ON A A HUNDRED MILLION DOLLAR DEAL, UH, YOU MIGHT BE LOOKING AT SOMEWHERE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF ONE TO ONE AND A HALF PERCENT, SOMETHING LIKE THAT ON A VERY SMALL DEAL LIKE THIS.

EVERYONE'S PRETTY MUCH LOOKING AT CLOSE TO THEIR MINIMUM FEES JUST TO, TO MAKE THE NUMBERS WORK.

SO I'M SORRY.

I W WHAT I WOULD COMMENT ON IS THAT WE APPRECIATE THE, THE LOWERING OF THE COST OF ISSUANCE.

UM, IT'S LIKE WHEN I WAS SHOPPING FOR A HOME LOAN, RIGHT, I GO TO ONE COMPANY, THEY GAVE ME THIS RATE.

I GO, GREAT.

LET ME GO TO ANOTHER COMPANY.

I GET A BETTER RATE.

NOW, THE FIRST COMPANY SAYS, WE'LL COME BACK, LET ME SEE IF I CAN DO SOMETHING BETTER WRONG.

YOU SHOULD HAVE DONE SOMETHING BETTER THE FIRST TIME.

SO WHAT I WOULD COMMENT IS NEXT TIME, I WANT THE BEST RATE RIGHT OFF THE BAT, THE BEST COST OF ISSUANCE, WHAT'S BEST FOR YOU.

WHAT'S BEST FOR US RIGHT OFF THE BAT.

NONE OF, WELL, ME SEE WHAT ELSE I CAN DO.

RIGHT? CAUSE THEN WE'RE PLAYING GAMES.

YOU SEE WHAT I'M SAYING? SURE.

SO WHAT I TOLD THAT FIRST MORTGAGE COMPANY IS, I'M SORRY, SHOULD WE COME OUT WITH YOUR GUNS THE FIRST TIME? AND I DON'T WANT TO HEAR WHAT ELSE YOU HAVE TO SAY.

AND I JUST WENT WITH THE NEXT COMPANY.

SURE.

AND I THINK WHAT WE DID WAS WE SAID, WE DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT IT'S GOING TO BE, BUT WE CAN ASSURE YOU IT'S GOING TO BE LOWER.

AND I DIDN'T HAVE THE CONTRACT IN FRONT OF ME TO BE ABLE TO QUOTE YOU A NUMBER.

I JUST KNEW WE WERE GOING TO DO SOMETHING BETTER THAN THAT.

AND THAT WAS EXACTLY WHAT WE DID.

SO I, I THINK WE, WE HONORED EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE, WHAT YOU'RE DISCUSSING BECAUSE WE DID, WE CAME IN WITH AN ESTIMATE AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT IT EVEN SAYS UP THERE STILL AT THIS POINT IN TIME.

SO, YEAH, I THINK, I THINK WE, WE HONORED THAT THE FOLLOWING PAGE, UM, I'M NOT GONNA GET INTO THAT.

I KNOW WE WENT OVER THESE NUMBERS BEFORE.

UH, WE ACTUALLY ARE GOING TO UPDATE THIS POST, THE REFUNDING.

UM, WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO IS, IS MOVE TO PAGE SEVEN AND ON THIS PAGE, UM, WHAT YOU CAN SEE IS THE AMOUNT OF DEBT SERVICE,

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I WOULD SAY, GOING FORWARD FOR 2023, UH, YOU CAN SEE THAT IT LOOKS LIKE THE, THE TAX RATE, ASSUMING THAT THE VALUES DO NOT INCREASE IN 2023 IN COLUMN A THAT IN COLUMN J UH, THE TAX RATE WOULD STAY RIGHT AROUND 7 CENTS ON THE INTEREST IN FA AND SINKING FUND TAX RATE.

UH, THEN YOU DO HAVE A SLIGHT DECREASE IN DEBT SERVICE STARTING IN 2024.

AND IT LOOKS LIKE THE TAX RATE WOULD GO DOWN TO ABOUT 4 CENTS.

AND THEN A LITTLE BIT MORE IN 2030, UH, DOWN TO ABOUT 3 CENTS.

SO YOU YOU'LL, YOU'LL HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF CAPACITY IN A COUPLE OF YEARS.

UH, IT'S NOT A LOT.

IT PICKS UP, I THINK, ROUGHLY ABOUT, UH, A LITTLE, UH, PRETTY CLOSE TO ABOUT $200,000 A YEAR.

UM, NOT A LOT, BUT YEAH, IT'S SOMETHING GOOD TO BE ABLE TO THINK ABOUT, UH, MOVING FORWARD FROM THE PLANNING PERSPECTIVE ON PAGE EIGHT.

UH, SO WE'RE HERE TODAY, PRESENTING THE RESULTS.

WE ACTUALLY CLOSED ON FEBRUARY 28TH AND THE BONDS WERE REDEEMED ON MARCH THE FIRST.

SO THIS TRANSACTION HAS JUST RECENTLY CLOSED AND BEEN COMPLETED AND THAT'S ALL WE HAVE.

UH, BUT WE'RE, LIKE I SAID, VERY PLEASED TO BE ABLE TO PRESENT THE RESULTS AND ESPECIALLY PLAYS WITH THE FACT THAT WE WERE ABLE TO EXECUTE IT WHEN WE DID, BECAUSE I THINK, UH, LITERALLY HAVE WE WAITED ANY LONGER, UH, RATES JUST MOVED SO FAST IN SUCH A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME.

UH, WE, WE'VE NOT SEEN THAT.

AND IN MANY YEARS, I THINK THE LAST TIME WAS DURING THE FINANCIAL CRISIS OF 2008.

AND EVEN THEN, I DON'T THINK THEY MOVED THIS FAST, BUT WE'VE, WE'VE, UH, ACTUALLY SEEN SOME DEALS THAT WORKED IN JANUARY THAT DON'T WORK HERE IN MARCH.

AND, AND SO THEY'RE LITERALLY GONNA JUST BE SITTING THERE WAITING UNTIL INTEREST RATES EITHER COME DOWN OR, UM, UH, WE SEE THAT WE GET CLOSER TO THE CALL DATES IN YOUR PARTICULAR CASE, WE JUST HAPPEN TO HIT THE RIGHT WINDOW COMING UP ON THE CALL DAY AND WE'RE ABLE TO EXECUTE, UH, BEFORE INTEREST RATES MOVED UP WITH THAT MAYOR.

HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT ANYONE MAY HAVE QUESTIONS? NO, SIR.

UH, HOW LONG HAVE YOU BEEN WORKING CLOSELY WITH THE CITY ON THESE TYPE OF FINANCIAL TRANSACTION? UM, I ACTUALLY STARTED, UH, 30TH YEAR, UH, LAST MONTH.

OKAY.

WELL, RIGHT.

WELL, SURE.

I APPRECIATE YOUR COMMITMENT TO THE CITY.

AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO THE LIKE COMMISSIONER AVANT SAYS THE BEST RATES POSSIBLE FOR THE CITY.

WE APPRECIATE THAT.

SURE.

WE ACTUALLY HAVE NOT, I THINK RAISED OUR FEES AND I THINK OVER A DECADE.

SO, UH, AND, AND EVEN WITH THAT, LIKE I SAID, WE, WE WERE, YOU KNOW, HAPPY TO BE ABLE TO LOWER THEM, UH, WITHOUT BEING ASKED.

WE, WE JUST DID, IT WAS THE RIGHT THING TO DO.

THANK YOU, DON.

THANK YOU.

[8. Consideration and possible action to approve a Concession Agreement with the 80's Bar and Grill, L.L.C., to provide alcoholic beverage sales at the San Benito Hog Waddle Concert on May 14, 2022 at the San Benito Fairgrounds. ]

OKAY.

AARON MARIE CONSIDERATION POSSIBLE ACTION TO APPROVE THE CONCESSION AGREEMENT WITH THEIR EIGHTIES BAR AND GRILL LLC TO PROVIDE THE ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES SOUGHT SALES AT THE ASSEMBLY OR HUG WATTLE CONCERT ON MAY 14TH, 2022 AT THE CENTENNIAL FAIRGROUNDS AND MS. NICKI SEDAN.

MA'AM YES, GOOD AFTERNOON.

MAYOR AND COMMISSIONERS, NIKKI SERONO, PARKS AND RECREATION, SPECIAL PROJECTS PLANNER FOR THE RECORD.

THE CITY OF SAN BENITO IS PREPARING FOR THE UPCOMING EVENT.

HOG WADDLE CONCERT.

THE EVENT WILL FEATURE LIVE MUSIC, FOOD, AND CRAFT VENDORS, ADULT BEVERAGES, AND MORE THE EIGHTIES BAR AND GRILL LLC ALSO KNOWN AS EIGHTIES BAR AND GRILL IS A LOCAL VENDOR AND HOLDS THE NECESSARY LICENSES TO SERVE AND PROVIDE ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES AT THE EVENT IN ORDER TO SECURE PROFESSIONAL SERVICES WITH EIGHTIES BAR AND GRILL STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THIS ITEM.

I JUST WANT TO SAY, UM, THANK YOU, NIKKI, FOR TRYING TO GO OUT AND HEARING MY CONCERNS LAST TIME ABOUT TRYING TO USE SOMEONE LOCAL.

I KNOW THAT'S ALWAYS A BIG CONCERN FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE.

IT'S LIKE, WHY AREN'T WE USING SOMEONE LOCAL? SO THANK YOU FOR DOING THAT.

YES, OF COURSE.

NO.

OKAY.

I'VE GOT A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER FRANCO SECOND BY COMMISSIONER GARCIA.

ALL IN FAVOR.

AYE.

ANY NAYS MOTION PASSES.

THANK YOU.

OKAY,

[9. Consideration and possible action to approve the following Live Performance Agreements for the San Benito Hog Waddle Concert to be held on May 14, 2022:]

ADAM, RYAN CONSIDERATION POSSIBLE ACTION TO APPROVE THE FOLLOWING THE LIVE

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PERFORMANCE AGREEMENT WITH A SEMI-ANNUAL HOT WATER CONCERT TO BE HELD ON MAY 14TH, 2022, AND MS. NICKI SERRANO PRESENTED SILENT.

HE HAS A MAYOR AND COMMISSIONERS AGAIN, NIKKI SERRANO'S SPECIAL PROJECTS PLANNER FOR THE CITY OF SAN BENITO PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT.

THE SAN BENITO HOG MODEL CONCERT FEATURES MUSIC WITH A COUNTRY AND THE HUNT WITH COUNTRY.

AND THE HANDLE SOUNDS THIS YEAR'S LINEUP INCLUDES LOCAL FAVORITES BACK IN CRAZY AND WHISKEY D EACH BAND HAS THEIR OWN FOLLOWING AND STRONG FAN BASE.

THE LINEUP ALSO INCLUDES GRAMMY AWARD-WINNING BAND, LOS TECHS, MANIACS WHO HAVE COLLABORATED WITH ARTISTS SUCH AS FLACO JIMENEZ, AND THOSE LABELS, THEIR MUSICAL SOUND IS A UNIQUE BLEND OF THE HANDLE WITH ELEMENTS OF COUNTRY BLUES AND ROCK STAFF MECH RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE LIVE PERFORMANCE AGREEMENTS FOR THESE BANDS.

NO MOTION TO APPROVE IS RECOMMENDED.

OKAY.

I GOT A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER MARIA FRANCO.

SECOND, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER GARCIA.

ALL IN FAVOR.

ANY NAYS MOTION PASSES.

THANK YOU.

MA'AM THANK YOU, NIKKI.

OKAY.

I

[10. Consideration and possible action to approve a Service Agreement with the Texas Heritage Independence Celebration Association (THI CA) for use of the San Benito Fairgrounds for the 2022 Annual Texas Independence Celebration]

DON'T REMEMBER 10 CONSIDERATION POSSIBLE ACTION TO APPROVE THE SERVICE AGREEMENT WITH THE TEXAS HERITAGE INDEPENDENCE CELEBRATION ASSOCIATION, TEEKA FOR USE OF THE SEMINOLE FAIRGROUNDS ON, UH, FOR THE 2022 ANNUAL TEXAS INDEPENDENCE CELEBRATION AND MR. MARTINE SCIENCE PERCENTAGE.

GOOD EVENING MAYOR COMMISSION FOR THE RECORD, MARTINE SCIENTIST GIGABIT ASSISTANT TO THE CITY MANAGER, THE TEXAS HERITAGE AND INDEPENDENCE CELEBRATION ASSOCIATION IS ASKING FOR THE USE OF OUR CITY FAIRGROUNDS ON APRIL 30TH, 2022 TO STAGE A REENACTMENT FOR A VIRTUAL PODCAST, CELEBRATING TEXAS INDEPENDENCE DAY AND THE PAST THIS ANNUAL CELEBRATION WAS A LIVE EVENT, BUT DUE TO THE ONGOING COVID-19 PANDEMIC, THE ORGANIZATION DECIDED TO MAKE THIS YEAR CELEBRATION OF VIRTUAL ONE.

THIS PODCAST WILL UTILIZE THE FAIRGROUNDS AS A LOCATION.

WE'RE ABOUT 20 TO 30 INDIVIDUALS WHERE WE ENACT VARIOUS SCENES FROM THE TEXAS BATTLEFIELDS OF 1836, THE TEXAS HERITAGE AND INDEPENDENCE CELEBRATION ASSOCIATION HOSTS THAT THIS VIRTUAL EVENTS WILL CONTINUE TO PROMOTE THE CITY OF SAN BENITO AS A HISTORICAL AND CULTURAL EVENTS SPONSOR IN THE STATE OF TEXAS STEP RECOMMENDS APPROVAL.

OKAY.

COMMISSIONER IN QUESTIONS.

OKAY.

YEAH, GENTLEMEN, UH, MY NAME IS BRUCE KID.

A LOT OF YOU HAVE SEEN ME AT THE EVENT.

UH, OF COURSE WE'VE BEEN IN THE CAVES FOR THE PAST TWO YEARS.

UH, LUCKILY BEFORE THE SHUTDOWN, WE WERE ABLE TO DO OUR EVENT.

UH, WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO DOING THIS AGAIN, AND HE MENTIONED IT'S GOING TO BE GREATLY ABRIDGED.

UH, WE WILL STILL HAVE OUR SPEAKERS LIKE WE'VE HAD IN PRIOR YEARS.

AND WE'RE LOOKING TO PROBABLY DO THE BATTLE OF GONZALES TO COME AND TAKE IT BATTLE AND A SHORT, UH, SAN JACINTO BATTLE.

UH, WE'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW MANY PEOPLE WE'RE GOING TO GET TO COME DOWN.

OF COURSE, WITH THE RONAS STILL IN HEIGHT.

UH, WE MAY NOT BE ABLE TO GET AS MANY PEOPLE AS WE WOULD IF EVERYTHING WAS OPENED UP, BUT, YOU KNOW, WE DIDN'T HAVE SO MANY PRECAUTIONS TO TAKE CARE OF, BUT WE'RE LOOKING TO CONTINUE.

THIS WILL BE OUR 14TH YEAR, UH, USING THE SITE.

UH, IT'S A LITTLE WORSE FOR WEAR CAUSE WE HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO GO OUT AND SERVICE IT.

UH, SO IT NEEDS A LITTLE BIT OF WORK, BUT THE, THE ALAMO IS STILL STANDING.

UH, WE'VE HAD ONE BUILDING COME DOWN FROM THE STORMS, UH, NEEDS TO BE REBUILT.

MOST OF THE REST OF IT IS JUST COSMETICS.

AND LIKE I SAY, WE'RE VERY EXCITED AND ANXIOUS TO GET BACK OUT AND PRESENT THE, THE HISTORY TO THE, UH, THE VALLEY AND THE PEOPLE OF TEXAS.

UH, EVEN THOUGH IT'S GOING TO BE VIRTUAL AND HOPEFULLY NEXT YEAR, IF THINGS OPEN UP, WE CAN GO BACK LIVE.

OKAY.

SO DO YOU NEED VOLUNTEERS TO GET, GO GET KILLED? UH, WELL, IF YOU WANT TO DRESS UP IN AN 1830S, SURE.

IT'S GOING TO BE A SMALL GROUP SINCE WE DON'T HAVE, WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE ANY SPECTATORS AT ALL.

SO PROBABLY BE JUST MOSTLY OUR MEMBERS.

UH, BUT YEAH, WE ALWAYS LOOK FOR VOLUNTEERS.

IF WE WERE ABLE TO DO THE ALAMO, I USUALLY GET WOUNDED LINED UP AGAINST THE WALL AND SHOT.

OKAY.

WHAT DATE IS THIS EVENT? APRIL 30TH.

APRIL 30TH.

OKAY.

AND YOU SAID IT'S VIRTUAL, SO YEAH, WHICH WE SHOULD BE OUT THERE PROBABLY WILL NEED TO USE THE FAIRGROUNDS NO MORE THAN MAYBE EIGHT HOURS TO DO WHAT WE NEED TO DO.

THE, UH, THE SPEAKERS, UH, WE'VE GOT FOUR SPEAKERS COMING.

THEY'RE NOTED SCHOLARS FROM ALL OVER TEXAS TALKING ABOUT, UH, THE REVOLUTION OF TEXAS HISTORY.

A LOT OF YOU MAY HAVE COME TO OUR SYMPOSIUM IN THE PAST.

THESE VERY LEARNED GENTLEMEN, IT'S A VERY INTERESTING, UH, SYMPOSIUM.

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AND IT, LIKE I SAY, OUR LITTLE VIGNETTES, UH, LAST, MAYBE 30, 45 MINUTES EACH.

UH, SO, UH, SO THE REENACTMENTS WILL BE TAKING PLACE ON THE SITE AND ALL THIS WILL BE VIRTUAL BECAUSE SOME OF THE TERMS, ONLY AGREEMENTS, UH, I GUESS THEY MAYBE, UH, MIRROR, UH, PAST AGREEMENTS, UH, IN TERMS OF PARKING LOTS, RIGHT? WE LEFT A LOT OF IT IN PLATE BECAUSE IF IT CHANGES SLIGHTLY AND SOMETIMES MAYBE THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN WHAT THEY HAVE.

SO WE MIRRORED THE 2019 AGREEMENT AND LEFT A LOT OF IT IN PLAY.

RIGHT.

BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ANY RESTRICTIONS.

THOSE RESTRICTIONS ARE SELF-IMPOSED OKAY.

THAT'S THE LETTER THAT MR. GARZA, THE CHAIRMAN SENT YOU.

SO WHAT WE DID IS WE GAVE HIM LATITUDE IN THE SURFACE AGREEMENT, INCLUDING A RAINOUT DATE.

IT SAYS APRIL 30TH OR AGREED UPON RAIN, OUTDATED FACILITIES OR THE SITES AVAILABLE.

SO AGAIN, IT WAS TO GIFT.

HE GETS MUCH LATITUDE WITH WHAT THEY WANT TO DO.

SO THE BARBECUE COOK-OFF IS STILL QUESTIONABLE.

LIKE I SAY, IT'S UNDER THE FOLLOWING, THE BARBECUE COOK-OFF WAS LEFT ON THERE.

AND JUST LIKE MR. MENTIONED, WE THEY'RE GOING TO BE OUT THERE A FEW HOURS.

SO IF THEY'RE BARBECUING OUT THERE FEEDING THE REST OF THE REENACTMENT, UH, CREW, IT'S GOING TO BE SOMETHING THAT, OKAY, SO WE DON'T WANT TO FULL-BLOWN REENACTMENT.

WE'RE NOT WANTING TO EXPOSE THE, UH, PEOPLE OR THE PUBLIC, UH, TO COVID.

SO TRY TO KEEP IT IN THE FAMILY.

OKAY.

HOPEFULLY NEXT YEAR WE'LL BE ABLE TO DO IT ON A REGULARLY SCHEDULED DAYS IN MARCH.

GO BACK TO THE FULL-BLOWN, UH, THREE ADVANCE, UH, REENACTMENT, THE BARBECUE WITH THAT.

WE'VE BEEN NOW TWO YEARS, PEOPLE ARE ASKING US, HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO DO THIS OR WHAT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO DO OUR POW WOW.

SO, LIKE I SAY, NOW THIS STUFF HAS STARTED TO OPEN UP AGAIN.

WE'RE ALL VERY EXCITED TO GET BACK IN.

SO I'VE STAYED ACTIVE BACK IN TWO WEEKS ON THE EDITED GOLIATHS FAN AND, UH, REENACTMENT, AND THEN TURN AROUND AND COME HOME.

AND THEN I'M GOING TO SHILOH 6:00 PM.

BATTLE SHILOH.

SO I'VE KEPT BUSY TO STAY AND I'M IN SAN BENITO.

IT BRINGS PEOPLE IN AND LETS US KNOW A SITE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

I APPRECIATE IT, SIR.

OKAY.

YEAH.

ANY MORE QUESTIONS? NO.

OKAY.

I GOT A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER MARIA FRANCO.

SECOND, SECOND, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER GALVAN.

ALL IN FAVOR.

ANY NAYS MOTION PASSES.

THANK YOU.

MAIN COMMISSIONING.

OKAY.

AT A NUMBER 11, UH, GIVEN OUR MOTION TO TABLE SECOND PICTURE.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR COMING.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

UH, I DON'T REMEMBER.

I NEED A MOTION TO TABLE THIS AS PER UH, UH, MS. CASTILLO.

SHE'S OVER THERE? YES.

OKAY.

DO I HAVE MOTION TO TABLE MOTION SECOND.

OKAY.

MOTION BY COMMISSIONER GARCIA.

SECOND BY COMMISSIONER.

WE HAVE FRANCO ALL IN FAVOR.

AYE.

AYE.

ANY NAYS MOTION PASSES TO TABLE? I HAD A NUMBER 11.

OKAY.

AND

[12. Consideration and possible action to approve a donation of non-usable surplus equipment from the San Benito Fire Department to Ciudad de Valle Hermoso, T amaulipas, Mexico, Fire Department. ]

THEN NUMBER 12, UH, CONSIDERATION POSSIBLE ACTION TO APPROVE A DONATION OF NON USABLE, UH, SURPLUS EQUIPMENT FROM THE SAMUEL FIRE DEPARTMENT TO THE MEXICO FIRE DEPARTMENT.

AND THIS IS MR. FROM , UH, GOOD EVENING MAYOR COMMISSIONERS FOR THE RECORD, A FRAME BAUTISTA FIRE CHIEF.

SO WHAT WE HAVE HERE IS A LIST OF, UM, SURPLUS ITEMS AND ITEMS THAT ARE NOT NO LONGER USED BY THE FIRE DEPARTMENT THAT WERE WILLING TO DONATE TO THE, UH, FIRE DEPARTMENT.

UH, AS YOU NOTICE ON THE LIST THAT WAS PROVIDED, UH, MOST OF THESE ITEMS HAVE EITHER OR EXPIRATION DATE OR, UH, NOT COMPATIBLE WITH THE TOOLS THAT WE HAVE NOW.

SO WHAT WE'RE ASKING IS THAT WE DONATE THEM TO THIS, UH, WITHOUT THE , UH, FIRE DEPARTMENT, UM, BECAUSE JUST LIKE EVERYTHING WE LIKE TO, UH, HELP OUT OUR NEIGHBORS.

RIGHT.

AND SINCE, UH, VITAL ALSO IS OUR SISTER CITY, UM, WHO WILL BETTER THAN THEM TOO, THAT WE CAN HELP THEM OUT.

SO WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR IS, UH, UH, FOR YOU GUYS TO APPROVE THIS, UH, ITEM, AND, UH, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, UH, I SAW THE, UH, THE LIST AND MAN, THAT'S A, THAT'S A PRETTY GOOD LIST, RIGHT? YEAH.

THAT THE ITEMS THAT ARE ON THAT

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LIST WE'VE HAD FOR MORE THAN 10 YEARS AND HAVE EXCEEDED THEIR, THE LIFE SHELF ON IT.

SO YOU CAN NOT USE IT.

YOU CANNOT GIVE IT TO ANYBODY HERE.

NO, NO, NO.

THE GEAR IS ACTUALLY EXPIRED, UH, THAT HAS A SEVEN YEAR EXPIRATION DATE FROM THE DATA MANUFACTURER.

AND, UH, MOST OF THAT YEAR'S OVER 10 YEARS OLD.

IT'S STILL USABLE, UH, FOR, YOU KNOW, MAYBE, UH, THE CITIES IN, IN, IN MEXICO, BUT NOT FOR US.

OKAY.

SO YOU MEAN TO TELL ME THAT YOU CAN'T DONATE THAT TO ANY OTHER VOLUNTEER FIRE DEPARTMENT? THE FIRE PROTECTION DOES NOT ALLOW THAT HERE IN THE, AND THE U S OTHER DISCLAIMERS IN PLACE, NO COMMISSIONER IS THAT THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE ANY DISCLAIMERS.

AND THE REASON BEING IS THESE ARE IT'S MEANT AS SHELF-LIFE AND EVERYTHING'S GOT A DATE.

SO, AND I'VE HAD A CONVERSATION WITH OTHER ELECTED OFFICIALS.

AGAIN, THESE ARE UNITED STATES STANDARDS DOESN'T MEAN THAT THEY'RE NOT COULD EQUIPMENT JUST MEANS THAT WE CAN NOT CONTINUE TO USE IT IN THE INTERNATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF FIREFIGHTERS AND ANYBODY THAT'S RECOGNIZED AS THESE NFP EIGHT, THE NATIONAL FIRE PROTECTION AGENCY STANDARDS WON'T ALLOW US TO CONTINUE TO GIVE IT TO SOMEBODY ELSE, BECAUSE THEN WE ARE ASSUMING SOME LIABILITY.

IT IS STILL WORTHY TO BE UTILIZED BY SOMEBODY THAT DOESN'T HAVE TO MEET THOSE STANDARDS.

AND THAT'S WHY WE FELT THAT OUR SISTER CITY WOULD BE THE MOST, UH, BENEFICIAL PARTNER.

OKAY.

SO WHEN YOU SAY LIABILITY, SO THEN WE'RE FREE OF LIABILITY.

WE IT'S UNDERSTOOD THAT THERE IS AN AGREEMENT OR SOMETHING THAT SAYS THAT WE WILL NOT BE HELD NATIONAL STANDARDS.

THEY DON'T PURCHASE, THEY DON'T KNOW, UH, NFP 1500.

NO.

OKAY.

YEAH.

SO IT'LL BE A GOOD PERSON.

IF SOMEONE'S GOING TO PUT IT TO GOOD USE OR NOTION IMPROVED.

SECOND, I'VE GOT A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER GALVAN SECOND BY COMMISSIONER, BE A FRANCO ALL IN FAVOR.

ANY NAYS MOTION PASSES.

THANK YOU.

THEY COULD ACHIEVE, YES.

OKAY.

[13. Consideration and possible action to approve the purchase and installation of flooring materials for the first floor of the Azteca Building located at 402 West Robertson Street from American Carpet and Tile in the total amount of$15,295.72]

ADAM 13 CONSIDERATION POSSIBLE ACTION TO APPROVE THE PURCHASE AND INSTALLATION OF FLOOR FLOORING MATERIALS FOR THE FIRST FLOOR OF THE AZTEC BUILDING LOCATED AT 402 WEST ROBERTSON STREET FROM, UH, AMERICAN CARPET AND TILE AND THE TOTAL AMOUNT OF $15,295 AND 70 CENTS PERCENTAGES.

GOOD AFTERNOON FOR THE RECORD.

I'M AN IS PARKS AND RECREATION DIRECTOR FOR CSM BENITO MAYOR COMMISSIONERS.

BEFORE YOU IS A PROPOSAL FROM, UH, AMERICAN CARPET AND TILE FOR THE MATERIAL AND LABOR TO REDO THE FLOORING ON THE FIRST FLOOR OF THE AZTECA BUILDING STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL POOL.

AND I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.

IS THIS FOR THE ENTIRE FIRST FLOOR? YES, SIR.

YEP.

ROUGHLY 5,000 SQUARE FEET.

AND IF I MAY ASK MIRA COMMISSIONERS, WE ONLY HAVE ONE QUOTE BECAUSE THE OTHER TWO, WE HAVE BEEN WAITING BETTER PART OF A MONTH TO GET OTHERS.

SOME OF THEM ARE NOT HAVING CAN'T GET SUPPLIES.

UH, AND SO WE OPTED TO GO AHEAD AND MOVE FORWARD.

THIS IS THE ONLY ONE THAT RESPONDED.

WE HAVE DOCUMENTATION TO BE ABLE TO SHOW THAT WE WERE TRYING TO GET THREE OR NOT MOVING.

SO THIS IS A, THE CERAMIC TILE.

THERE WAS A PROBLEM WITH PUTTING CARPETING.

UH, IT IS THE BEST WAY BECAUSE, UH, AS YOU'VE NOTICED COMMISSIONER GOLDMINE, WHEN YOU'VE BEEN IN THERE, WE'VE NOT TOUCHED YOU AS BEST AS LINING THAT'S UNDERNEATH THERE.

SO WE NEED TO CODE IT AND PUT IT THIS, THIS CERAMIC TOWEL OVER IT WITH ADHESIVE TO MAINTAIN, BECAUSE WHAT WE DID WAS REMOVE THE CARPETING AND NOT THE ACTUAL FLOORING.

AND WE'RE NOT GOING TO DISTURB THAT AS BEST AS SIT IN ON THE, YOU KNOW, ON THE SURFACE OF THE FLOOR.

SO IT IS THE BEST PRICE THAT WE COULD FIND, AND WHETHER WE REACH AN AGREEMENT WITHIN THE MUSEUM GROUPS TO GO IN THERE OR NOT, WE'RE STILL TRYING TO MAINTAIN OUR FACILITIES.

EXACTLY.

MOTION TO GET A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER VIA FRANCO.

SECOND, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER GARCIA, ALL IN FAVOR, ANY NAYS WHEN I RECUSED MYSELF FROM THE VOTE.

OKAY.

I GET THE COMMISSIONER GOT ONE RECLUSIVE.

AND SO FROM, UH, THE VOTE, UH, SO ALL IN FAVOR, AYE.

ANY NAYS MOTION PASSES.

THANK YOU.

[14. Consideration and possible action to approve payment to Hanson Professional Services, Inc., pertaining to the El Camino Number 2 Lift Station located at 1 Camino Boulevard and 777 West Business 77 for Engineering and Design Task Order Number 2 in the total amount of $37,140.00.]

OKAY.

ADAM, 14 CONSIDERATION POSSIBLE ACTION TO APPROVE THE PAYMENT OF HANSON PROFESSIONAL SERVICE, INC, PERTAINING TO THE EL CAMINO.

NUMBER TWO LIFT STATION LOCATED AT, UH, ONE CAMINO BOULEVARD AT 7 77 WEST BUSINESS, 77 OR ENGINEERING AND DESIGN TASK ORDER NUMBER TWO, AND THE TOTAL MONTH OF $37,140.

AND MR. DAVID VASQUEZ PRESENTED HIS ON GOOD EVENING MAYOR, UH, COMMISSIONERS FOR THE RECORD, DAVID VASQUEZ, PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR.

UH, THIS IS A DESIGN FOR THE EL CAMINO LIFT STATION.

NUMBER TWO, UH, WHAT WE'RE DOING IS SEEKING APPROVAL TO, FOR HANSON PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AND THE AMOUNT AND THE TOTAL AMOUNT OF $37,140 AND 0 CENTS FOR THE EL CAMINO PROJECT STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL.

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WHAT'S THE TOTAL AMOUNT THAT THEY'VE, UH, FROM START TO NOW.

WHAT'S, UH, WHAT'S THE TOTAL AMOUNT THAT THE HITCH, I DON'T HAVE AN EXACT DOLLAR AMOUNT, BUT I KNOW THAT AS FAR AS WHERE WE'RE AT ON THE ENGINEERING DESIGN, WHERE AT 90% TOTAL ON THAT PART, AND THAT'S A, UH, 37 TIMES THREE, SO ABOUT $127,000, WE STILL NEED THE, UH, IS ONLY JUST THE, UH, THE SURVEY AND THE, UH, UM, THE ENGINEER FOR IT.

SO WE, THEY HAVEN'T EVEN STARTED TO WORK ON IT.

NO, THIS, THIS, THIS IS ACTUALLY A, UH, AN INVOICE IT'S LATE THAT WE PROCESSING NOW WE'RE AT, ACTUALLY, THIS IS A PROJECT THAT'S ACTUALLY STARTED.

WE'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO BE COMING TO YOU MAYOR FOR, FOR A SIGNATURE, FOR THE PROJECT TO START WHEREVER YOU PUT THE BIDS OUT, WE DISCOVERED THIS, THIS INVOICE WASN'T PAID.

THAT'S ALL WE'RE DOING HERE.

REALLY DID IT FOR BUDGET FOR, YES.

IT'S PART OF THE WHOLE BUDGET, I GUESS, PART OF THE BONDS THAT WE'VE ISSUED.

AS A MATTER OF FACT, YOU ALREADY LET THIS PROJECT OUT.

YES, YES.

OH, WE'RE BEHIND, YOU'VE ALREADY SENT THE CONTRACT OUT THAT THIS IS, WE'RE JUST CATCHING UP ON AN INVOICE THAT CAME IN.

OKAY.

OKAY.

AND DO I HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? NO.

OKAY.

DO I HAVE A MOTION? OH, YOU DIDN'T.

OKAY.

I'M SORRY.

I DIDN'T HEAR A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER FRANCO.

SECOND, SECOND, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER GARCIA.

ALL IN FAVOR.

AYE.

ANY NAYS MOTION PASSES.

OKAY.

I HOPE IT DOESN'T HAPPEN AGAIN, PLEASE.

I DON'T WANT TO HEAR THAT AGAIN AT THE, ALL OF A SUDDEN THIS CAME IN.

I DON'T HEAR THAT.

OKAY.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

[15. Consideration and possible action to approve payment to HCEngineering (HCE), pertaining to the Alamo Lift Station located at 1400 Block of Alamo Street for Preliminary Planning and Coordination, and Civil Engineering Design in the total amount of$17,500.00.]

YES.

MA'AM NUMBER 15 CONSIDERATION POSSIBLE ACTION TO APPROVE PAYMENT.

THE H C E ENGINEERING, H C E AND PERTAIN TO THE ALAMO LIFT STATION LOCATED AT 1400 BLOCK OF ALAMO STREET FOR PRELIMINARY PLANNING AND COORDINATION, CIVIL ENGINEERING DESIGN, AND THE TOTAL AMOUNT OF 17,500.

AND MR. DAVID BASKET PRESENTED ITSELF, UH, FOR THE RECORD AGAIN, DAVID VASQUEZ, PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR FOR ITEM NUMBER 15.

THIS IS A, FOR A CIVIL ENGINEERING DESIGN FOR THE ALAMO LIFT STATION.

UH, THIS IS FOR, UH, WE'RE SEEKING PAYMENT APPROVAL FOR H C E ENGINEERING, WHICH IS BETTER KNOWN AS HCE AND THE TOTAL AMOUNT OF $17,500 AND 0 CENTS STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL.

AND THIS PROJECTS AT THE DESIGNS AT 50%.

SO WE'RE MOVING FORWARD AS WE GO TO THIS PROJECT.

I'M JUST TRYING TO LOOK AT THE, UH, THE AMOUNTS FOR WHAT THEY HAVE I GUESS, UH, YOU KNOW, WHEN ONE COMPANY SEES ONE THING AND THE OTHER COMPANY SEES ANOTHER, THAT'S WHAT I'M LOOKING AT.

OKAY.

BUT I'LL GET WITH IT.

I'LL GIVE HIM, UH, WAS THIS ON WITH YOUR MONEY? OKAY.

WE NEED TO, WE DO LOOK AT THE, YOU KNOW, I NEED AN ENGINEER.

THAT'S WHAT WE NEED.

WE NEED AN IN-HOUSE ENGINEER.

YEAH.

CAUSE I'M LOOKING AT THAT TOO.

RIGHT? YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE DIFFERENT, WE JUST APPROVED SOMETHING OVER SIX FIGURES, AND THEN YOU HAVE THIS ONE, UM, A LITTLE BIT CHEAPER FOR THE DESIGN.

SO WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE? WELL, THE MAYOR COMMISSIONERS, YOU'RE COMPARING APPLES AND ORANGES, RIGHT? SO, UH, YOU MIGHT RECALL, AND WE'VE HAD THIS DISCUSSION WHEN WE ASSIGNED TO VARIOUS ENGINEERS, IT DEPENDS ON THE RESOURCES, THEIR SKILLSET, WHAT THE PROJECT IS, EL CAMINO, REAL MAYOR, YOU AND I WERE THERE.

WE KNOW THAT THERE'S TWO LIFT STATIONS.

ONE'S GOING TO BE A SURGE TANK.

ONE'S A FAIRLY LARGE, THIS IS THE ALAMO LIFT STATION.

THAT'S ON EIGHTH STREET AND, UH, ALAMO AT EIGHTH STREET.

THIS IS MUCH SMALLER THAN THE OTHER TWO.

SO APPLES AND ORANGES DO NOT EQUATE TO THE SAME AMOUNT OF MONIES.

SO IF YOU LOOK AT WHAT HE'S GOT, HE'S GOT 56,400, THE ALAMO, THE STATION IS REALLY A REBUILD.

IT'S A RECONSTRUCTION.

YOU GO TO THE EL CAMINO, WE'RE ADDING CAPACITY.

WE'VE GOT RASAKA VILLAGE.

WE GOT SONIC.

WE GOT EVERYTHING ELSE COMING IN.

WE'VE GOT DEVELOPED BEHIND.

THEY'RE NOT THE SAME.

OKAY.

THIS IS THE, THIS IS THE ONE THAT'S BEHIND THE, I SAID, DOCTOR, THIS IS THE ONE ON, ALMOST AT EIGHTH STREET, RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE NEW PERFORMING ARTS CENTER.

AND THE REASON WE'RE TACKLING THIS OUT OF THE SSO, WHY IT'S SO WE CAN BE GOOD PARTNERS

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WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT.

THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE GOING TO, IS IT GONNA, IS IT, IS IT INTENDED TO HELP BENEFIT THAT DEVELOPMENT? YES, IT IS.

OKAY.

IT'LL BENEFIT THE ENTIRE AREA, BUT THEY NOW HAVE, I DON'T WANT TO BUILD IT TO 80% STANDARD AND SAY, OH, WE NEED A LITTLE BIT MORE.

NO, IT'S NOT DESIGNED FOR THAT.

IT'S REALLY FOR THAT DEVELOPMENT.

AND JUST WHAT IT IS WHEN YOU GO THROUGH REDEVELOPMENT.

AND WHEN THAT, WHEN THAT SUBDIVISION GOES THROUGH REDEVELOPMENT OR IT'S, THE MAYOR BEEN RECOMMENDED THAT WE DO PIPER'S THING AND YOU NO LONGER HAVE LEAKAGE OF SEWAGE THROUGH THE OLD PIPES THAT ARE IN THERE.

AND YOU'VE GOT NOW MORE VOLUME, MORE BILE SLUDGE RUNNING THROUGH THAT PIPE.

IT IS GOING TO HIT THAT.

AND AT THAT POINT, BECAUSE WE OWN THE LOT, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO CONSIDER ADDING A WET WELL, BUT WE'LL TACKLE THAT AT SOME FUTURE DATE, WE'RE TRYING TO MEET THIS LIFT STATION WITH THE SCHOOLS, DISTRICTS TIMELINE.

AND BECAUSE IF NOT, IF YOU CHANGE CAPACITY, YOU START ADDING MORE THAN YOU'VE GOT TO GET TCQ APPROVALS AND ADDING MORE FLOWS.

THIS IS A RECONSTRUCTION OF AN EXISTING, THERE MAY BE SOME MOVEMENT, BUT WE'RE WITHIN THE SAME FOOTPRINT.

OKAY.

DIFFERENCE IN TO APPROVE.

OKAY.

WE'VE GOT A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER OF YOUR FRANKLIN.

SECOND TO COME BACK AND MICHELLE GARCIA I'M IN FAVOR.

ANY NAYS MOTION PASSES

[16. Consideration and possible action to approve payment to Cummins Southern Plains, Sales and Service, for parts and services provided to repair the Waste Water Treatment Plant Generator located at 26300 Line 20 Road in the total amount of $81,203.61.]

OKAY.

I DON'T REMEMBER 16 CONSIDERATION POSSIBLE ACTION TO APPROVE THE PAYMENT, UH, COMING TO SOUTHERN PLAINS, UH, SALES AND SERVICE OR PARTS OF SERVICE PROVIDED TO REPAIR, UH, THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT GENERATOR LOCATED AT 26, A 300 LINE TWAIN ROAD IN THE TOTAL AMOUNT OF $81,203 AND 61 SAY DAVID MUSKET PRESENTED THE CENTER, UH, FOR THE RECORD, UH, DAVID VASQUEZ, PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 16.

WHAT WE HAVE HERE IS A REPAIRS AND SERVICES AND PARTS THAT HAVE BEEN PROVIDED BY COMING TO SOUTHERN PLAINS FOR THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLAN GENERATOR.

WE HAVE A SCHEDULED FOR TOMORROW FOR A FULL TEST LOAD STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF PAYMENT TO THE GENERATOR DOING SO LOOKING GOOD.

AND HE SAYS, TOMORROW'S GOING TO BE THE TEST LOAD ON IT.

THE FULL TEST LOAD.

WE'VE DONE A PREVIOUS, BUT NOW WE'RE GOING TO DO THE FULL TEST LOAD TOMORROW, RIGHT AFTER LUNCH, APPROXIMATELY ABOUT LUNCH ONE O'CLOCK IS THIS, UM, IS THIS COMPANY A FRANCHISE THAT'S BECAUSE I SEE A CORPUS CHRISTI COMING, SALES AND SERVICE, AND THEN I SEE A DIFFERENT OWNER'S NAME THERE.

I CAN'T ANSWER THAT RIGHT NOW.

OKAY.

OKAY.

IS IT A, WHAT CUMMINGS IS, UH, IS PROPRIETARY.

SO THIS IS A CUMMINS GENERATOR.

NO ONE ELSE CAN WORK ON IT, BUT CUMMINS.

AND HERE'S WHAT YOU CAN GET SOMEBODY THAT MAY BE ABLE TO WORK ON IT, BUT YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GET THE WARRANTY.

AND BECAUSE IT'S GOT TWO DIFFERENT COMPUTERS ON IT, THERE'S ONLY A ONE COMPANY WHICH IS COMING THE ONLY REP THAT CAN COME AND ACTUALLY WE'RE PAYING THE CORPUS CHRISTI OR THAT'S WHERE THE OFFICE IS AT THE PRECEDENT THAT I DEAL WITH THE COMPANY WHEN I DON'T LIKE THE PRICES HE'S IN SAN ANTONIO.

OKAY.

IT'S ALL CUMMINGS AND IT'S COMING INTERNATIONAL.

THEY'RE WORLDWIDE.

SO WHEN YOU GO LOOK TO SEE WHO CAN WORK ON MY GENERATORS, THEY MAY HAVE A FEW VERY, VERY SPECIFIC WHAT THEY MAY DO OUT AT CERTAIN AREAS.

AND THEN WE CONTACT CORPUS.

CHRISTI SAYS, OKAY, THEY'RE COMING OUT OF SAN ANTONIO.

AND HE MADE A COMMENT THAT WE DID AT PRETEST.

WHEN WE CRANKED IT UP, THE RADIATOR STARTED BUBBLING OUT, PICO SETS UNDER NEW PRESSURE, JUST LIKE A GAS TANK.

SOMETIMES YOU GOT TO REPLACE THE GAS CAP RIGHT ON YOUR OWN VEHICLES.

CAUSE IT'S BEEN DOWN THERE TOO LONG.

WE HAD THE SAME THING, REPLACED THE TWO RADIATOR CAPS ON IT.

AND IT'S HOLDING THAT.

WE'RE GOING TO TEST IT AGAIN, RIGHT? IT, THIS THING, I MEAN, YOU START REPLACING NEW NEW PARTS IN AN OLD PIECE OF EQUIPMENT.

EVEN IF YOU DO IT ON YOUR PERSONAL VEHICLES, YOU GET TO HAVE SOME PROBLEMS. SOMETIMES THEY'RE TOO STRONG, TOO MUCH PRESSURE.

I MEAN, SOMETIMES THAT'S, THAT'S PART OF WHEN YOU'RE PUTTING NEW PARTS INTO OLD EQUIPMENT AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE RUNNING INTO.

SO HOPEFULLY THIS FULL TEST WILL RUN.

AND THAT'S COMMISSIONER CUMMINGS IS IT'S, IT'S IT.

YOU CAN'T GET, UH, J UH, OR DO THESE OTHER, UH, YOU CAN'T GET JOHN DEERE OR SOMETHING ELSE OUT THERE.

WHAT DO THEY WARRANTY THE, UH, THEIR WORK? HOW LONG DO THEY WARRANTY IT? UH, WHEN THEY DRIVE OUT AT, IT SEEMS LIKE AS SOON AS THEY DRIVE OFF THE GATE, IT'S VERY SHORT.

THEY DON'T DO MUCH.

WELL, THAT'S WHY YOU SAID TO GO WITH CUMMINS BECAUSE OF THE WARRANTY.

YEAH.

WELL, NO, IT GENERALLY COMMISSIONER AND I DON'T RECALL.

IT'S USUALLY LIKE 90, 90 DAYS.

UH, THEY DON'T WARRANTY LABOR AND NOBODY DOES RE VERY LONG, BUT HE, HERE IT IS.

IT'S IF IT DOESN'T WORK TODAY

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AND THEN YOU GO GET SOMEBODY ELSE OR WE HAVE SOMETHING, SOMEBODY HAS COME OUT, THEN THEY SAY, HEY, WE WERE THERE 30 DAYS AGO.

WE'RE NOT TOUCHING IT'S YOU.

THAT'S WHAT I MEAN BY WARRANTY EITHER VERY CAREFUL.

UH, AND IT DOESN'T MATTER IF IT'S A COMING GENERAL, DIDN'T MATTER IF IT'S A FIRETRUCK WITH GENERATORS, DIESEL ENGINES, YOU CAN NOT HAVE SOMEBODY THAT ISN'T CERTIFIED TO TOUCH THEM.

AND IT NOT.

THAT'S THE FIRST TIME THAT I SAY, WE'RE NOT TOUCHING IT, IT'S ON YOU.

AND IT'S GOING TO COST.

YES.

AND ALSO SEE THE, THE HOURS OF THE GENERATOR HERE, 743 HOURS ON IT.

UM, WHAT IS THE GENERAL DURATION OF THIS GENERATOR AND AN HOURS TERM? CAUSE THEN MY CONCERN IS, DO WE HAVE THE SKILLSET TO CONTINUE TO MAINTAIN THE GENERATOR AFTER WE FIX IT? WE DON'T MAINTAIN, UH, WE RUN IT.

WE'RE WE'RE WE'RE OPERATORS.

WE'RE NOT MECHANICS.

SO WE ALWAYS BRING OUTSIDE MECHANICS.

OKAY.

THE, THE, THE PLANT WAS WHEN, UH, IN 2004.

SO WHEN YOU SHEET DEBT, SO 20, 24 IS 20 YEARS ON THIS.

UH, WHEN, WHEN DID THE, UH, WHEN DID THE, OH, HERE, IT, THAT'S ALL PARTIAL PLACE BELOW.

WE'LL HAVE A 12 MONTH WARRANTY.

SO IT'S ON A FIRST PAGE.

SO, UM, BUT, UH, COMMISSIONER, DO YOU, CAN YOU TELL ME WHEN VICTOR THREE AND STUFF ISSUE THAT, THAT, UM, I'M SORRY, MY NAME THAT I'M NOT THAT OLD.

YEAH.

I IT'S.

IT'S BEEN WELL, YEAH, IT'S BEEN A WHILE AT LEAST 15 YEARS AGO.

OH YEAH.

TH THIS, THIS GENERATOR IS MAINLY SUPPOSED TO BE USED FOR WHEN WE LOSE POWER SO THAT WE CAN KEEP THE SERVICES RUNNING, RIGHT? YES, SIR.

IT'S UM, BUT WE HAVE TO RUN IT.

NOPE.

AND WE RAN IT EVERY WEEK.

WE RENT, WE PUT A LOAD ON IT, JUST LIKE WE DO THIS GENERATOR, NOT THIS BUILDING, BUT THE BUILDING NEXT DOOR, IT'S GOT A GENERATOR THAT BUILDING GOT A GENERATOR.

THE FIRE STATION HAS GOT A JENNER.

THE PDS GOT A GENERATOR EVERY WEEK.

THESE THINGS ARE RUNNING.

IF YOU COME BACK MOST DAYS ON FRIDAYS, LIKE AT SEVEN 30 IN THE MORNING, IT'S AT 10 30.

SO YOU HEAR RUNNING, RUN THEM AND THEN YOU TEST THEM AS WELL.

YEAH.

WE'VE PUT LOADS ON THEM THAT SHUT EVERYTHING DOWN.

AND WE PUT A THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.

LIKE, SO WE HAVE SOMEONE THAT, YES, WE DO THE OIL AND THAT'S PRETTY, I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW, THAT'S THE GUY RIGHT THERE AND WE GOT, WE GOT, AND THEN, SO THIS IS 743 HOURS OF TIME ON IT.

IS THIS STILL A GOOD GENERATOR? IS IT JUST, ARE WE DOING MAINTENANCE ON IT OR IS IT AT ITS END OF LIFE? THE WASTEWATER.

SO SO WE'RE, WE'RE MAINE, WE'RE PAYING EIGHT.

YOU WANT TO COME OVER HERE CAUSE WE'RE PAYING 81,000 TO FIX IT.

AND IF WE'RE AT END OF LIFE, YOU KNOW WHAT W WELL, I KNOW THE COST OF REPLACING IS PROBABLY FAIRLY EXPENSIVE, SO, OKAY.

AND LET ME TAKE IT, TAKE IT FROM HERE.

WE'VE ALREADY DISCUSSED THIS WHEN WE ISSUE THE BONDS.

UM, EH, I'M TRYING TO THINK HERE.

IT WAS RIGHT BEFORE THE ELECTIONS THAT YOU CAME ON BOARD, WE ISSUED DEAD ON SOME, UH, LIFT STATIONS THAT INCLUDED THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT.

THE IDEA WAS THAT WE WOULD RELOCATE IT IF WE REPLACED IT, IT'S PROBABLY RIGHT.

ABOUT 700,000.

THIS UNIT IS EASILY TWICE.

THAT AMOUNT.

IT IS THE SIZE OF A SMALL RAILROAD CAR.

IT IS MASSIVE.

IT IS FOUR TIMES.

SOME OF THE ONES WE GOT HERE, THAT'S HOW BIG IS IT? SO WE ALREADY ADDRESSED THAT DURING THE BOND ISSUANCE THAT IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT WE'RE GOING TO RELOCATE IT, WE'RE GOING TO RELOCATE IT BECAUSE HE'S ABSOLUTELY CORRECT.

WHEN HE SAID IT'S COSTLY BECAUSE IT'S WITHIN 200 FEET OF THE INFLUENT.

WE'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH OTHERS.

CAN WE DO OTHER THINGS TO PROTECT THIS PIECE OF EQUIPMENT? UM, HERE IT'S 15 YEARS OLD, IT'S IN A LIFE, RIGHT.

AND IT COULD BE OKAY, SO COULD MY CAR, SO COULD YOUR CAR, WE DON'T GET RID OF THINGS UNTIL WE KNOW THAT WE ABSOLUTELY CAN'T BE THERE.

WE D WE HAVE, UH, SET FUNDS ASIDE FOR TRAILER MOUNTED GENERATORS, NOT ONLY TO HANDLE THE WASTEWATER AND WATER PLANTS, BUT ALSO THE SMALLER LIFT STATIONS.

WE JUST NEED TO GET AROUND TO GETTING THOSE THINGS, PLUS RESOLVING SOME OF THESE OTHER PROJECTS GOING ON AND GETTING ELECTRICAL ENGINEERS TO DESIGN THESE THINGS, TO TELL US WHAT IT IS GOING TO BE IN.

WE, AND THOSE WOULD BE REDUNDANT BECAUSE IF THAT LIFT STATION, IF THE, UM, GENERATOR AT THAT, UM, WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT GOES OUT LIKE WE HAD THESE FREEZES.

AND WHEN YOU APPROVED THE RENTAL OF A GENERATOR OF A MOBILE GENERATOR, WE DID NOT WANT TO GO INTO THE WINTER MONTHS, NOT HAVING A GENERATOR, KNOWING THIS THING WAS PROB PROBLEMATIC.

WE NEED TO GET THIS PIECE OF EQUIPMENT, AND I'VE ALREADY BEEN TELLING HIM WE'RE ALREADY COMING UP ON MARCH 15TH, RIGHT? JUNE ONE, TWO AND A HALF MONTHS IS THE START OF HURRICANE SEASON.

WE PLANNED OUR WORK ACCORDING TO

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DELL HURRICANE SEASON AND THE WINTER MONTHS.

AND WE'VE GOT TO HIT THOSE TIMELINES TO GET THESE THINGS, THESE PIECES OF EQUIPMENT WORKING OR RELOCATED.

THE INTENT COMMISSIONER WAS TO RELOCATE IT AWAY FROM THIS SITE, MOVE IT CLOSER.

OR, UH, WE'VE ALSO HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH OTHERS.

AND ONE OF THEM WAS US WATERS.

WHAT CAN WE DO TO PROTECT THE INFLUENCE? BUT WE DON'T CREATE THESE, UH, THESE, UH, ACIDIC CAUSTIC GASES THAT SEWAGE CREATES IS IT'S OPEN AIR.

IT'S, IT'S PUNGENT TO YOUR LUNGS WHEN YOU'RE AROUND THAT AREA.

SO WE KNOW WE'VE GOT IT, BUT WE SET FUNDS ASIDE.

SO HE WASN'T HERE WHEN WE DID IT.

HE CERTAINLY WASN'T HERE.

AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'VE ALREADY DISCUSSED WHEN WE ISSUE.

I THINK SOME OF YOU WERE HERE, SOME WERE NOT, UH, YOU WERE, UH, NOT HERE, MAYOR ONLY AT THIS POINT WOULD HAVE BEEN, UM, THE MAYOR FOR 10 MINUTE AND VIA FRANCO.

SO, BUT WE DID, AND WE DISCUSSED THOSE AND THOSE SORT OF, PART OF THAT LIST.

WE'VE BEEN CONCENTRATING GETTING THOSE LIFT STATIONS, BECAUSE THAT WAS THE IDEA TO GET ALL THE LIFT STATIONS OUT OF THE WAY.

THAT'S WHAT THE FUCK.

AND THEN WE MOVE ON TO THE OTHERS THAT, THAT WE CAN'T TAKE IT AS FAR AS WE CAN INTO THE MONEY'S GONE.

AND WE IDENTIFIED GENERATORS IN THE ENTRANCE OF THAT.

BONDS CREATED THE MONEY'S COMING FROM THE BONDS.

YES, SIR.

IF WE, THE IDEA WAS TO TAKE CARE OF THE SIX SSRI LIFT STATIONS AND THE ONE ALAMO THAT SEVEN, AND THEN WE START MOVING ON TO GENERATORS AND ANY EQUIPMENT.

OKAY.

BUT WHAT I'M SEEING IS THAT IT'S ALREADY BEEN WORKED ON, RIGHT? WE'RE JUST APPROVING PAYMENT.

YES.

UH, YES, SIR.

YOU APPROVED A YES, SIR.

AND BECAUSE IT'S OVER 10,000, YOU APPROVED THE WORK.

YOU'VE PROVED THAT DOLLAR AMOUNT, THAT DOLLAR AMOUNT HASN'T CHANGED, BUT IT'S BEEN A PRACTICE TO BRING IT TO YOU ONCE IT'S BEEN DONE.

UH, TECHNICALLY YOU'VE ALREADY PROVEN IT.

THE SCOPE DIDN'T CHANGE.

IT'S IT'S, IT'S, IT'S A PRO IT'S A PROCESS HERE.

OKAY.

YES, SIR.

OKAY.

MOTION TO, UH, I NEED A MOTION MOTION BY COMMISSIONER VIA FRANCO.

SECOND CHICKEN BACK TO MICHELLE GARCIA.

ALL IN FAVOR.

ANY NAYS MOTION PASSES, SAME THING.

OKAY.

I

[17. Consideration and possible action to approve a proposal from Southern Trenchless Solutions, LLC, for work pertaining to the Rose Lift Station for rehabilitation in the total amount of$83,268.00.]

REMEMBER 17 CONSIDERATION POSSIBLE ACTION TO APPROVE THE PRO THE PROPOSAL OF THE SOUTHERN TRENCHES ASSOCIATION, LLC, FOR WORK PERTAIN TO THE ROAD, UH, ROSE LIFT STATION FOR REHABILITATION AND THE TOTAL AMOUNT OF $82,268.

AND MR. DAVID ROSCOE PERCENT ON, UH, GOOD EVENING FOR THE RECORD, DAVID VASQUEZ, PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR ITEM AGENDA.

NUMBER 17.

THIS PROPOSAL FOR THE ROSE LIFT STATION IS FOR THE WET CELL OF THE WET.

WELL, SORRY.

THE WET WELL, UH, WAS, UH, DRAWN DOWN DURING THE REHAB AND OBSERVED AN IMPACTING AND OBSERVING THE WALLS.

IT WAS DETERMINED THAT THERE WAS SOME CODING IS RECOMMENDED FOR THIS ON THE WET WELLS SIDE.

UH, SO WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS TO BE AT THE, IN THE TOTAL AMOUNT OF $83,268 AND 0 CENTS.

THIS IS KIND OF THE, SO THE INITIAL WAS FOR THE DRY SIDE, THE DRY WELL, AND NOW THAT WE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO BRING DOWN THE WET WELL, AND LOOK AT, IT HAS BEEN DETERMINED BY THE ENGINEER AND INSPECTORS THAT WE SHOULD, UH, COAT THIS.

AND THAT'S WHAT THE PROPOSAL, THE PROPOSAL IS.

EXCUSE ME.

MOST OF THIS WORK IS DONE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT.

YOU'LL SEE THAT THERE'S CREWS FROM SOUTHERN TRANSLATES.

WE WORK AT OUR, WE HAVE OUR CREWS, UH, BECAUSE OF THE WORK, BECAUSE WE HAVE TO, UH, GET THE WORK DOWN WHEN THE SEWAGE FLOWS ARE MUCH LESS.

SO WHEN PEOPLE ARE SLEEPING.

UM, SO, UH, TRENT, UH, SOUTHERN TRENCHLESS IS NOT AN ENGINEERING COMPANY.

THEY, WE HAVE AN ENGINEERING COMPANY ACE THAT DOES PROJECT MANAGEMENT THAT INSPECTS IT FOR US WHEN THEY LOOK AT IT AND SAID, YES, IT'S NOW THAT WE'RE IN THERE.

AND WE SEE NOW THAT WE'VE DRAWN IT ALL THE WAY DOWN, IT SAYS, IT'S IN YOUR BEST INTEREST.

AND IT'S, IT'LL BE LESS EXPENSIVE TO DO THE WORK NOW THAN TO WAIT, BECAUSE EVENTUALLY IT'S GOING TO NEED IT.

AND WE'RE HERE NOW.

AND THAT'S WHY WE MOVED VERY QUICKLY TO GET IT BACK TO JESUS.

SO WE HEADED AVAIL, NOT EVALUATED BY THE COMPANY.

A COMPANY SAYS, HEY, YOU MIGHT WANT TO LOOK AT THIS ENGINEER COMES OUT, LOOKS AT IT, THE ENGINEERING FIRMS REPS, AND SAY, YEAH, IT SHOULD.

SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE PRESENTED AGAIN.

WE ARE ONLY TRYING TO DO AS MUCH AS WE NEED TO STRETCH THE DOLLARS AS MUCH AS FAR AS POSSIBLE.

OKAY.

IT'S PRETTY MUCH, UM, LIKE MAINTENANCE, MAINTENANCE, TRYING TO CATCH THEM, TRYING TO, I GUESS, TAKE CARE OF IT BEFORE IT GETS WORSE.

YES, SIR.

OKAY.

SOUNDS NICE.

I MEAN, WE'RE ALREADY THERE, LIKE, ALL RIGHT, WE'LL HAVE TO, WHY DON'T WE GO BACK AND DO IT AGAIN? YEAH.

YOU'RE NOT PAYING MOBILIZATION DEMOBILIZATION, ALTHOUGH THERE IS SOME COST SAVINGS AND PLUS THE, UH, UH, THE PRICES ARE HOLDING FIRM IF, SINCE THEY'RE ALREADY HERE WITH US.

OKAY.

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OKAY.

DO I HAVE MOTION MOVE MOTION BY COMMISSIONER FRANCO SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR.

ANY NAYS MOTION PASSES, MAYOR COMMISSIONERS.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, SIR.

[18. Consideration and possible action to approve Ordinance Number 2103-5, after Second and Final Reading, amending Ordinance Numbers 2103, 2103-1, 2103-2, 2103-3, 2103-4 and any other amending ordinances codified in the Code of Ordinances in Chapter 10, Section 10.02.009, pertaining to "Processing of Final Plat" and repealing any other ordinances in conflict therewith, as provided by the City of San Benito and providing for an effective date.]

AND AN EMERGING CONSIDERATION POSSIBLE ACTION TO APPROVE ORDINANCE NUMBER 21 0 3 DASH FIVE AFTER SECOND AND FINAL READING AMENDING, UH, ORANGE NUMBER 21,000 HUNDRED 3 21 0 3 0 DASH 1 21 0 3 DASH 2 21 0 3 DASH SPRING 21 0 3 DASH FOUR.

IN ANY OTHER AMENDING ORDINANCE QUANTIFIED IN A COURT OF ORDINANCE IN CHAPTER 10, SECTION 10.02 POINT JOJO NINE PERTAIN TO THE PROCESS OF PROCESSING A FINAL PLAT AND REPEALING ANY OTHER ORDINANCE IN CONFLICT OR WITH, AND PROVIDING BY THE CITY OF SAN BENITO AND PROVIDE AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE AND MANY DEALERS, A PERCENT OF THE SELLER MARION COMMISSIONERS.

BEFORE YOU HAVE THE SECOND READING OF THIS ORDINANCE, UM, WE'VE ALREADY HAD PUBLIC HEARINGS ON THE MATTER, BOTH AT THE PLAINS ZONING COMMISSION AND AT THE CITY COMMISSION AT THE LAST MEETING COMMISSIONER GALVAN HAD SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT THE ANALYSIS, HOW IT COMES UP AND WHY THEY WERE IN THERE.

I'VE GOT AN EMPLOYEE.

IF I CAN ASK MR. CARR AND DRAKE, I HAD NONE, THIS ENRIQUE, UH, MR. HERNANDEZ, UH, WORKED FOR A LOCAL ENGINEER BITTER PART FOR 12 YEARS.

UH, YOU MIGHT KNOW THE NAME.

I HOPE I DON'T OFFEND, BUT IT'S MOSTLY MY, OR YOU MIGHT KNOW THE NAME, UH, UH, BRONZEVILLE ENGINEER.

I'VE BEEN AROUND A LONG TIME.

SO, UH, MR. HERNANDEZ, ONE OF HIS SKILLSETS THAT WE UTILIZE HIM IN HE'S OUR AUTOCAD, UH, WE'RE TEACHING HIM GIS, BUT WE'RE ALSO, HE'S ALSO HELPING US WITH THE PLANNING.

HIS JOB IS TO LOOK AT THESE STANDARDS.

IN-HOUSE, UH, WORK WITH OUR ENGINEERS AND SAYS, OKAY, WHERE ARE WE PLUS, UH, HE USED TO HELP DESIGN, UH, IF YOU KNOW, ENGINEERING FIRMS, THEY USED TO HAVE A DESIGNER IN-HOUSE DRAWING UP THE PLANTS AND THE ENGINEER KIND OF LOOKS AT IT, MAKE SURE IT'S DONE.

THAT'S WHAT HE DID.

HE DID DETENTION PONDS.

HE DID MEP MECHANICAL ELECTRICAL PLUMBING PLANS.

SO HE DOES A LOT OF THAT KIND OF WORK.

SO WHEN HE CAME ON BOARD, THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WE, WE, UH, HONED IN HIS SKILL SETS INTO HELPING US WITH HIS DEVELOPMENT.

SO, UH, COMMISSIONER GALVAN, UH, IF YOU COULD POSE THAT QUESTION, UH, AND HE CAN WALK, YOU CAN SEE HE WAS HERE AT THE LAST MEETING.

AND IF I KNEW THAT HE KNEW THE ANSWER, I WOULD HAVE CALLED THEM UP, UH, BECAUSE HE CAN EXPLAIN THIS ANALYSIS AND HOW THESE CALCULATIONS WORK AND WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING AT, OR ANY OF THE MEMBERS OF THE, THAT WAS MY CONCERN.

IS THIS PERTAINING TO IT'S THE DRAINAGE? IT WAS A DRAINAGE.

YES, SIR.

IT'S IN THE DRAINAGE AND THE, UH, IN THE STORMWATER MANAGEMENT PLAN, IT WAS THE, UH, WHEN IT SAID THE FIVE, 10, UM, NO OF GREW A HUNDRED, RIGHT? WHY WE WERE DOING THAT.

IF YOU RECALL, THE, UH, MR. HERNANDEZ STARTS SPEAKING AND HE CAN KIND OF PROBABLY REFRESH, OKAY, THE MAYOR COMMISSIONERS, AND WE CANNOT THIS PLANNER ONE, I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS BEST OF MY ABILITY.

SO I'M LOOKING AT SECTION NINE, DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS, POLICY ON, UM, PAGE 80 OF THE DEVELOPMENT CODE.

THERE'S A STORM.

IT STATES STORMWATER RUNOFF SHALL BE RELEASED FROM DETENTION AREA INTO YOUR RECEIVING SYSTEM AT THE PREDEVELOPED RATE FOR THE 2, 10 25 YEAR FREQUENCY STORM EVENTS.

THAT'S ITEM TWO.

A LOT OF THIS IS, UM, ENGINEERING CALCULATIONS PHYSICS.

MY, MY THING IS TO DO WE HAVE, LIKE SOME OF THESE NUMBERS, I CAN LEARN THEM, RIGHT? BUT DO WE HAVE AN ENGINEER THAT TAKES A LOOK AT THESE? SOME OF THE STUFF SAYS ENGINEERING, WE SEND THEM OUT, WE SEND STUFF, SOMEONE TEXTS DON'T WE GET THE CALCULATOR.

WE'VE GOTTEN MUCH BETTER.

IF YOU LOOK AT THE CURRENT ORDERS, WHAT WE'RE, WE'RE REMOVING.

I MEAN, YOU MIGHT AS WELL HAVE WRITTEN IT ON A PIECE OF NAPKIN, THESE DESIGNS.

AND EVEN THAT 10 YEARS FROM WHEN WE WERE LOOKING AT IT, WE'RE SENDING IT OUT TO AN ENGINEER THAT WE ASSIGNED SAYS, GO THROUGH THESE.

AND WHAT THEY SAY IS, YES, IT IS, OR IT'S LACKING IN THESE AREAS.

OKAY.

SO THAT'S IT.

WE DON'T DO THEM.

AND NOW WE LOOK, WE, A LOT OF OUR UTILITY PLANS ARE SENT OUT.

WE HAVE ANYWHERE WE DON'T USE UTILIZE HANDSOME, BUT WE USE, UH, GUZMAN AND MUNOZ AND H, C E, AND THEIR ENGINEERS REVIEW OUR UTILITY PLANS.

THEY REVIEW THESE DETENTIONS JUST DEPENDS ON WHAT THE PROJECT IS, UM, WHEN WE'RE DOING THIS.

SO THE, I GUESS THE QUESTION WAS, WHAT DOES THE, I GUESS, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN EXACTLY ON PAGE 82, 10 25 YEAR FREQUENCY STORM EVENT? CAN YOU TELL ME WHAT THE TITLE WE'RE LOOKING AT? WHAT'S THE SECTION, BECAUSE WE PUT IT INTO THE ORDINANCE, SO WE'VE CODIFIED IT IN THAT SECTION.

THAT WAY, IF I CAN, UH, YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE, THE DEVELOPMENT,

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IT COVERS A BUNCH OF TOPICS THAT WE'RE PULLING OUT AND, AND ADOPTING THE, THE WATER.

IT LOOKS LIKE THE STORMWATER, THE ADDITION TO DESIGN, WHICH IS 1.05.

YES.

I HAVE THE EXHIBIT FOR THE STORMWATER MANAGEMENT.

THAT'S WHAT I'M LOOKING AT RIGHT NOW.

1.05, BUT MOSTLY THE, THE NUMBERS THAT YOU, THAT YOU ASKED FOR ARE JUST, UH, COY EFFICIENT, UH, BASED TO DO THE CALCULATIONS PER DESIGN FOR THE DRAINAGE REPORT.

UH, YOU, YOU CALCULATE BASED ON CERTAIN, UH, INTENSITY RAINFALL.

TWO-YEAR, FIVE-YEAR, TEN-YEAR 50 YEAR, A HUNDRED YEAR.

DOESN'T MEAN YOU'RE CALCULATING FOR A HUNDRED YEAR STORM, BUT THAT'S JUST FOR THE CALCULATIONS.

AND ONCE YOU CALCULATE, YOU DETERMINE A STORAGE VOLUME, UH, CAPACITY, UH, DEPENDING ON THE PEAK AND THAT'S WHAT'S REQUIRED, BUT IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT YOU'RE, UH, CALCULATING FOR A A HUNDRED YEAR STORM, WHERE ARE REQUIRING A 25 YEAR STORM AND CHECKING FOR A 50 YEAR STORM.

I SAW THAT.

SO THOUGH, ON ITEM 18 HERE, THE ONE WE'RE DISCUSSING IT'S PAIN, JEANNINE, AND IT'S UNDER THE CATEGORY OF TABLE THREE, FOUR MODIFIED RATIONALE METHOD.

UH, IF YOU GO DOWN TO NUMBER TWO, IT'S A STORMWATER RUNOFF SHALL BE RELEASED FROM THE DETENTION AREA AND TO RECEIVING SYSTEM AT THE PRE DEVELOPED RATE FOR THE 2, 10 25 YEAR FREQUENCY STORM EVENTS.

COULD YOU EXPLAIN? YES, BECAUSE, UH, IN YOUR CALCULATIONS, YOU'RE GOING TO CALCULATE FOR PRE-DEVELOPMENT, UH, AS IT'S A UNDEVELOPED LAND, AND THEN YOU PUT IN YOUR COEFFICIENTS FOR DEVELOPMENT, UH, WHAT TYPE OF, UH, UH, STRUCTURE IS GOING TO BE BUILT AND BASED ON THAT, UH, YOU HAVE YOUR DEVELOPMENT, UH PRE-DEVELOPMENT AND POST DEVELOPMENT, AND THAT'S WHAT YOU NEED TO CALCULATE FOR.

SO WHAT IS THE RATIONALE BETWEEN THE 2, 10 25 YEAR? SO ARE THEY GOING TO CALCULATE FOR A, TO 10 25 PRE DEVELOPMENT? I MEAN, WHY WOULD THAT BE NECESSARY? WELL, LIKE I SAID, THAT'S JUST IN THE, IN THE CALCULATIONS.

THAT'S, UH, CO-EFFICIENTS, UH, AS, AS YOU SEE HERE, IT'S JUST THE FORMULA AND, UH, EACH LETTER REPRESENTS A CERTAIN NUMBER THAT YOU HAVE TO CALCULATE.

AND, UH, YOU LOOK AT THE CHARTS FOR 2, 10, 25.

YOU CALCULATE THE INTENSITY FOR EACH OF THOSE RAINFALL EVENTS, AND THAT'S WHAT YOU PLUG INTO THE CALCULATIONS, AND THAT'LL HELP YOU DETERMINE WHAT THE STORAGE, UH, WILL BE FOR THAT DEVELOPMENT, ESPECIALLY THE WAY I LOOK IT.

I THINK IT'S MORE OF A CHECKS AND BALANCES YOU'RE CALCULATING FOR, UH, YOU KNOW, THE LOWS AND THE HIGHS, RIGHT? THE PEAKS IS REALLY WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, AND YOU'RE, YOU'RE TESTING YOUR CALCULATION.

SO WHEN THE ENGINEER SEES IT, HE'S, HE'S ACTUALLY GOING DOWN THOSE CALCULATIONS.

WE'VE HAD THEM WHERE THEY'RE NOT VERY MUCH, AND THEY'RE JUST KIND OF GIVING YOU THE END RESULT.

WE WANT TO, UH, IF YOU REMEMBER YOUR MATHEMATIC, WE WANT TO SEE HOW YOU STARTED AND HOW YOU CAME UP WITH THE END AND SHOW YOUR WORK PRODUCT.

WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU DIDN'T JUST PLUG IT IN, WHETHER IT'S COMPUTER GENERATED.

WE STILL HAVE ENGINEERS THAT DO A LOT OF BY HAND AND THEY SUBMIT THOSE CALCULATIONS BY HAND.

WE DON'T JUST TAKE IT FOR GRANTED.

WE, WE GO THROUGH, WE HAVE AN ENGINEER THAT GOES THROUGH THOSE CALCULATIONS.

OKAY.

THESE STANDARDS, AGAIN, WE LOOKED AT, UH, WE LOOKED AT, UH, NOT ONLY, UM, CAMERON COUNTY, BECAUSE WE CONSIDER CANADA CA TO BE THE MINIMUM STANDARD.

WE KNOW WHAT SOME OF THE ISSUES WERE THERE.

WE LOOKED AT HILDAGO COUNTY AND, UH, WE STARTED TO LOOK AT WHAT HARLAN DIDN'T HAT UNTIL THEY STARTED MAKING CHANGES.

WE SAID, YEAH, LET'S LOOK AT THESE WHAT WORKS WELL BECAUSE OUR ENGINEERS WORK IN BOTH COUNTIES.

WHAT IS THOSE COUNTIES STANDARDS? WHAT WORKS AND WHAT DOESN'T AND WHAT COULD BE IMPROVED, IF ANYTHING.

AND THE BIGGEST ISSUE THAT I'VE CAUGHT IS, AND WE'VE HAD THESE CONVERSATIONS, UH, WHEN YOUR CONVEYANCE SYSTEM IS TOO SMALL, WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT THE CATCH BASIN WITH A BOX YOU'RE PIPING, HOW MUCH? AND IF NOT, ARE WE FLOODING OUR ROAD WAS, AND THAT SEEMS TO BE PART OF THE PROBLEM THAT WE'VE GOT.

I STILL SEE SOME OF THE VERBIAGE OF 10 YEARS IN HERE IS THAT, OH, THAT'S REPEALING THE OLD STUFF.

OKAY.

YES, SIR.

UM, SO WE'RE TRYING TO MOVE TO THE STANDARD OF A 25 YEAR, WHICH IS GOOD, BUT A LOT OF THIS STUFF IS COEFFICIENTS ENGINEERING TERMS. LINGO DOES THE, UM, PLANNING AND ZONING COMMITTEE REVIEW THIS BEFORE IT COMES TO US, THEY SAW THIS, THEY APPROVED IT.

YES.

OKAY.

WHAT IS THE PROFESSIONAL CAPACITY OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMITTEE? IT, DO WE HAVE ENGINEERS, ARCHITECTS, PLUMBERS.

YOU'RE GOING TO SEE WHERE I'M GETTING AT.

OKAY.

SO ABRAHAM ON THERE.

HE'S A DEVELOPER.

HE'S A BUILDER.

OKAY, GOOD.

UH, I DON'T KNOW WHO ELSE IS ON THERE.

HE'S THE ONLY ONE I KNOW.

I MEAN, THAT'S, THAT'S GOT THAT.

UH, BUT AGAIN, SO SOME OF THE TERM, THE VERBIAGE HERE SAYS THAT, ACCORDING TO THE DISCUSSION

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WITH AN ENGINEER, WHO'S THE ENGINEER.

SO WE'RE TALKING TO HANSON OR, I MEAN, THIS WAS RECOMMENDED TO US BY HCE THEIR ENGINEER, CHRIS FRANK IS THEIR ENGINEER.

SO THEY'RE THE ONES THAT WILL REVISE THIS FOR US AND PRESENT OKAY.

AND THAT WAS MY CONCERN BECAUSE I, I COULDN'T COME HOME.

AS A MATTER OF FACT, THIS IS THE SAME, UH, A LOT OF THAT TEXT THERE.

OKAY.

THEY WERE GOVERNMENT.

WE'RE NOT CREATIVE ENOUGH TO REALLY THINK OUT OF THE BOX.

WE COPY AND PASTE A LOT OF THINGS.

THIS DESIGN CAME VERY SPECIFICALLY FOR MERCEDES, AND THEN WE JUST TWEAKED IT.

AND I FORGOT ABOUT MERCEDES BECAUSE I RECALL NOW WHEN THEY LOOKED AT IT, BECAUSE THEY CAME UP WITH THE CITY OF MERCEDES DRAINAGE DETENTION, AND WE LOOKED AT THIS AND I SAID, NOW THAT WE'VE GOT THIS, I DON'T KNOW WHETHER IT REALLY WORKS, BUT I'M FAMILIAR WITH CAMERON COUNTIES.

AND THEY SAID, I SAID, AND WHAT IS HIS DABO COUNTIES? BECAUSE I UNDERSTAND.

SO, SO AGAIN, THIS WAS DESIGNED BY THEM.

THEY LOOKED AT IT, THEY KNOW.

AND AS A MATTER OF FACT, H C E N, THAT GROUP IS THE ONE THAT JUST WORKED WITH US TODAY ON BROADWAY PLAYS.

UH, MR. BELTED, A PHONE CALL WITH, WITH THOSE REPRESENTATIVES, THE DEVELOPERS, THE ENGINEERS, THE BUILDERS, WE, WE, AND ONE OF THE BIGGEST COMPLAINTS IS WE'VE GOT US THE BROADWAY PLACE, DETENTION POND.

THESE STANDARDS CAN'T BE APPLIED TO THEM, BUT THE DETENTION POND CAN'T BECAUSE IT'S NOT BEING MAINTAINED.

SO, BUT AGAIN, H C E THEIR ENGINEER DID THIS FOR THAT CITY.

WHEN YOU LOOKED AT IT, I THINK THEY TWEAKED IT BASED ON WHAT WE HAD ABOUT THE, GETTING IT OFF THE ROADWAYS.

SO AGAIN, WE DIDN'T COME UP WITH IT, DATA'S ON.

AND THEN THEY WORK ON PROJECTS THAT THEY INSPECT.

AND THEN THEY BASED ON THEIR SKILLSETS WITH DEVELOPMENT, WHAT WORKS AND WHAT DOESN'T WORK IN THE FIELD.

I'VE, AS I'VE SAID IN THE PAST LIBERTY ESTATES IS A GOOD DEVELOPMENT AND IT MEETS ENGINEERING.

BUT WHEN I GET THOSE CALLS THAT THE STREETS ARE FLOODING, RIGHT.

I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED UNTIL I FOUND OUT, WELL, IT'S SIZE FOR THIS, THAT CONVEYANCE MEETS YOUR STANDARD.

AND THEN THE POND IS LARGER.

WELL, WE GOT TO GET IT OUT.

AND IF YOU MIGHT RECALL, IF YOU KNOW THAT PHASE TWO DEVELOPMENT, THEY GOT A CALL THE SAC, NO INLETS IN THE CALL, THE SITE THAT RUNS DOWN THE STREET, NO INLETS UNTIL HE HITS INDEPENDENCE DRIVE.

SO YOU'VE GOT THIS WHOLE LENGTH, WHICH IS PROBABLY 300 LINEAR FEET, BOTH SIDES OF THE ROADWAY WITH NEW DEVELOPMENT, ALL ASPHALT, CONCRETE, GUTTER, AND CURB RUNNING INTO ONE BOX IT'S UNDERSIZED.

AND WE WONDER WHY IT FLOODS.

WELL, THERE'S, YOU SHOULDN'T WONDER IN THIS DESIGNED BY SOMEBODY WHO'S GOT A PE, RIGHT? SO GENTLEMEN, WE'VE DONE THE BEST WE CAN BY GETTING ENGINEERS TO LOOK AT THIS.

I'M NOT AN ENGINEER.

I TRUST MY ENGINEERS.

THEIR JOB IS TO GIVE US WHAT THE BEST IS.

IT CAME FROM AN, YOU KNOW, THEY LOOK AT THESE THINGS, WE ALL LOOK AT WHAT IS WORKING.

OKAY.

SO, AND IF YOU'RE READING, WHAT'S GOING ON IN HARLINGEN ENGINE AND HOW, YOU KNOW, WHAT THEIR DRAINAGE STUDIES ARE, I DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT'S GOING TO PASS OR NOT, BUT I'M NOT LOOKING AT IT BECAUSE I THINK FROM WHAT I'M HEARING, IT'S MUCH MORE RESTRICTIVE THAN OURS.

WE'RE JUST TRYING TO MEET SOMETHING THAT LOOKS LIKE THE COUNTY.

CAUSE WE'RE NOT TRYING TO HINDER DEVELOPMENT, BUT WE'RE AT LEAST TRYING TO MANAGE THOSE STORM WATERS.

BECAUSE AFTER THE DEVELOPER LEAF LEAVES THE AREA, YOU'RE STUCK WITH THE HOMEOWNER CALLING YOU WHY THE STREETS FLOODING AND THAT'S OUR OBLIGATION.

AND THAT'S OUR RESPONSIBILITY TO ENSURE THAT WE'RE GOING TO DO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO PREVENT FLOODING BECAUSE YES, UH, WE FLOOD AND, UM, THE, OUR RESIDENTS END UP HAVING COSTLY REPAIRS OF THEIR HOMES OR CARS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO I DON'T BELIEVE THAT, UH, WE'RE BEING STRINGENT ON, UH, HAVING THESE, UH, SAFETY NETS IN THERE BECAUSE, UH, WE HAVE TO ENSURE PUBLIC SAFETY AND WITH PUBLIC SAFETY COMES PUBLIC HEALTH.

SO I LIKE WHAT I HEAR IS THAT A MOTION, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I'M STILL CONCERNED WITH THAT 2, 10, 25? I DON'T UNDERSTAND IT.

YEAH.

AND A LOT OF THESE THERE'S JUST CRITERIA FOR THE DESIGN OF THE, THE PONDS, WHICH ARE BASICALLY FOR THE ENGINEER TO KNOW WHAT WE'RE BASING OFF TO DO THE CALCULATIONS.

AND IT SAYS DRAINAGE REPORT REQUIREMENTS WILL, UH, PART OF WHAT YOU'RE ASKING IS, IS UNDER THE REQUIREMENTS AND THEY'LL KNOW WHAT IT IS.

I KNOW A LOT OF THESE NUMBERS ARE CONFUSING, BUT SO LIKE ON DRAINAGE REPORT REQUIREMENTS, IT SAYS SUMMARY OF DETENTION REQUIREMENTS BASED ON THE TWO, 10 AND 25 YEAR STORM EVENTS, ARE THEY GOING TO PRESENT ME A TWO, 10 AND 25 YEAR DOCUMENTS

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UNDER DRAINAGE REPORT? YES.

AND THEY'LL, THEY WILL SUBMIT THAT TO THE CITY, UH, FOR THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT OR SUBDIVISION.

AND WE'LL FORWARD TO THE CONSULTING OR CITY ENGINEER.

SO WHY NOT JUST GIVE ME THE 25 AND 50, RIGHT.

I DON'T THINK THAT'S THE INDUSTRY STANDARD.

I THINK WE'RE SPLITTING HERE.

HERE'S THE THING.

I THINK IT'S AN EXERCISE ENGINEER'S GOING, OR IF YOU'VE DONE ALL YOUR LEGWORK AND OUR VIEW, HAVE YOU GONE THROUGH ALL THE CALCULATIONS TO SHOW THAT? AND AGAIN, UH, I THINK IT WOULD BE OWNERS THAT IF WE'RE SAYING, HEY, THIS IS NOT AN INDUSTRY STANDARD.

UH, AND IF YOU, YOU KNOW, I CAN DOWNLOAD TO THE CAMERON COUNTIES AGAIN AND I CAN SEND YOU OTHERS.

IS THIS, THIS? AND I SEE THE SAME.

AND I THOUGHT I SAID, THAT'S ALL WHAT I SAID.

YOU SAW WHAT WE'RE REPEALING.

IT BARELY FITS ON A PAGE.

I PULLED UP, I DOWNLOADED CAMERON COUNTY'S DRAINAGE REQUIREMENTS THAT THEIR SECTION AS PART OF THEIR DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS AND IT'S LIKE EIGHT PAGES.

SO I KID YOU NOT, WHEN I'M LOOKING AT THE, AND I'M LOOKING AT THESE SAME COEFFICIENTS, RIGHT.

YOU KNOW, IF I WANT IT TO BE RICH, I WANT TO BECOME A MATHEMATICIAN.

I'M NOT, BUT I KNOW WHAT I'M LOOKING AT IN MY, WHEN MY EARS.

AND I LOOK AT THE COMPARISON, I GO, I'M SEEING THE SAME, THE SAME STANDARDS, BUT AGAIN, WE VERIFY EVERYBODY'S WORK AND DRAINAGE IS IMPORTANT.

I'D RATHER SEE THOSE CALCULATIONS.

AND MY UNIT GOES, YEAH, THEY'RE MEETING IT.

AND IT, IT IT'S GOING TO IT, IT SHOULD WORK BECAUSE THEY WENT THROUGH THE ENTIRE EXERCISE.

WE DO THE SAME THING WITH TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS.

AND YOU SAW IT, THAT'S PART OF THIS ORDINANCE.

WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING IS SAFE AND PEOPLE NEED THESE CONSULTANTS.

PROFESSIONALS NEED TO SHOW THE WORK PRODUCT TO, TO, TO NOT ONLY YOUR SATISFACTION, BUT THOSE CITIZENS THAT COME TO US SAYS, HAVE WE DONE WHAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO? AND YOU'RE FOLLOWING CODE.

THAT'S ALL.

OKAY.

UM, I GUESS IT JUST REITERATE THE PRESENCE OF WHY WE NEED AN ENGINEER IN STAFF.

RIGHT.

I THINK THAT'D BE IMPORTANT.

A LOT OF COEFFICIENTS THERE.

OKAY.

AND THAT AN ENGINEER DOES REVIEW THE, YEAH.

YOU SAID THAT.

YEAH.

BUT I, I LIKE WHEN I JUST, YOU KNOW, I DON'T WANT TO CALL THEM AND TAKE TWO WEEKS AND THREE WEEKS, IT'S BETTER WHEN WE HAVE SOMEONE IN THE EYES ON THE, ON THE SITE, BUT OKAY.

WE'LL LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING WHAT, WHAT THIS PRESENTS, I GUESS, FOR THE NEXT DEVELOPMENT.

AND WE CAN ALWAYS MODIFY THE APPOINTMENT.

OKAY.

WELL, BECAUSE STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL.

OKAY.

I'VE GOT A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER OF YOUR BRONCO.

SECOND TAKEN BY COMMISSIONER GARCIA, ONLY FAVOR IN NACE MOTION PASSES.

THANK YOU.

MAKE SURE.

[19. Consideration and possible action to approve Ordinance Number 2600-03-2022(2), after Second and Final Reading, regarding the Voluntary Annexation of 1835 South Sam Houston Boulevard, Bearing A Legal Description of3.ll-Acres of Land Out of Block 34, of the San Benito Land and Water Company Subdivision, Cameron County, Texas. Applicant: Ms. Sabrina Lara.]

UM, 19 CONSIDERATION POSSIBLE ACTION TO APPROVE ORDINANCE NUMBER 2,600 DASH THREE DASH 22 0 2 2 Z.

AFTER SECOND AND FINAL READING REGARDING THE VOLUNTARY ANNEXATION OF 1835 SOUTH SAM HOUSTON BOULEVARD, BURNETT A LEGAL DESCRIPTION OF 3.1, ONE ACRES OF LAND OUT OF A BLOCK, 34 OF THE 70, THE LAND AND WATER COMPANY, SUBDIVISION CAMERA, COUNTY, TEXAS APPLICANT, MR. BRINA, LARA, AND MY DAD ALSO PRESENT CENTER.

THERE WE ARE.

OKAY.

MARY COMMISSIONERS.

THIS IS THE, UH, UH, SECOND AND FINAL READING OF THIS ANNEXATION.

IT'S UH, 1835 SOUTH SAM HOUSTON DOWN ON THE SOUTH END OF TOWN ON THE EASTERN SIDE OF THE ROADWAY.

IT'S ALMOST NEAR THE IT'S, UH, ALMOST ACROSS THE STREET FROM LIBERTY STATES.

THERE IT IS.

THERE WE ARE.

THE BOTTOM LINE.

THERE WE ARE.

SO YOU'LL SEE THE AREA THERE.

THAT'S OUTLINED PART OF IT'S IN THE CITY.

UM, AND PART OF IT IT'S OUTSIDE OF THE CITY OF THE AREA TO BE ANNEX IS THE, THE EASTERN SIDE OF THE BACKSIDE OF THAT PROPERTY.

3.1, ONE ACRES.

SO CITY STAFF HAS RECOMMENDED THE, UH, APPROVAL OF THIS ANNEXATION ORDINANCE.

OKAY.

YES.

SECOND, ANY QUESTIONS? NO, I'M GOING TO HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER GARCIA.

SECOND BY CAN WE SERVE YOUR FRANCO ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.

ANY NAYS MOTION PASSES?

[20. Consideration and possible action to approve Preliminary and Final Plat of Lara Investments Properties, LLC Subdivision, being 5.00-Acres of Land Out of the Southwest One Qyarter, (SW. ¼) ofBlockThirty-Four, (34), San Benito Land and Water Company Subdivision, Cameron County, Texas, according to the map or plat thereof recorded in Volume 1, Page 6, Map Records, Cameron County, Texas. Applicant: Ms. Sabrina Lara.]

OKAY.

I REMEMBER 20 CONSIDERATION POSSIBLE ACTION TO APPROVE PRELIMINARY, PRELIMINARY AND FINAL PLOT OF LAND, INVESTMENT PROPERTIES, LLC, AND SUBDIVISION BEING VERY A FIVE ACRE OF LAND OUT OF THE SOUTHWEST CORRIDOR AND SOUTHWEST ONE QUARTER OF A BLOCK 34, NUMBER 34, AND SOMEBODY WOULD LAND IN WATER COMPANY SUBDIVISION, CAMERON COUNTY, TEXAS, GOING TO THE MAP OR PLAT THE ROUGH GOING TO VOLUME.

ONE PAGE SIX, MAP RECORDS, CAMERON COUNTY, TEXAS AFRICAN MR. SABRINA, LOTTA AND MANY DEALERS.

THE PERCENT IS MARIN MISSION.

THE SAME PROPERTY THAT WE JUST

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THE ANNEX AT 3.1, ONE ACRES IT'S 1835, UH, SOUTH ST.

EASTON.

YOU'LL SEE THE PROPERTY UP THERE.

UH, IF YOU INCLUDE THAT 3.1, ONE ACRES, AND THEN THE BALANCE, IT COMES OUT TO FIVE ACRES.

THE CITY, UH, THE STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF BOTH THE PRELIMINARY AND FINAL PLAT FOR THE TOTAL FIVE ACRE SITE.

OKAY.

THE QUESTIONS MOST OF THOSE RECOMMENDED.

OKAY.

I GOT A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER WILL BE A FRANKLIN.

SECOND, SECOND, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER GARCIA.

ALL IN FAVOR.

ANY NAYS MOTION PASSES.

[21. First Reading of Ordinance 2601-03-2022(2) to rezone a property on the corner of Lovett Road and Russell Lane, also bearing a Legal Description of 27.27-Acres of Land more or less, being the West 2.273-Acres of Lot 21, West 5-Acres of Lot 22, and all of Lots 49, 51, 52, and 53, Resaca Front Subdivision, City of San Benito, Cameron County Texas, recorded in Volume 2, Page 21, of the Map Records of Cameron County, Texas from SF-1, Single Family One, and Agricultural and Open Space, A-O to a PDD, Planned Development District, default to SF-1, Single Family One. Applicant: UR Homes.]

G I REMEMBER 21 FIRST READING OF ORDINANCE NUMBER 26 0 1 DASH THREE DASH 2022 Z TO REZONE THE PROPERTY ON THE CORNER OF LOVETT ROAD AND MUSCLING ALSO BEARING THE LEGAL DESCRIPTION OF 27 POINT 27 ACRES OF LAND, MORE OR LESS, VERY NEW WEST 2.273 DASH EIGHT ACRES OF A LOT 21 ACRE WEST FIVE ACRES OF LOT 22 AND ALL OF LOT 49 51 52 AND 53.

.

SO DIVISION CITY OF 72 CAMERA CON, TEXAS RECORDING AND VOLUME TWO PAGE 21, OR THE MAP RECORDS, CAMERON COUNTY, TEXAS FROM SF DASH ONE, SINGLE FAMILY, ONE IN AGRICULTURE AND THE OPEN SPACE, EIGHT DASH ZERO TWO, A P D D PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT, DEFAULT TO A S F DASH ONE, SINGLE FAMILY ONE AND A U R HOMES.

AND MANY DID AS A PERCENTAGE CENTER, MARY COMMISSIONERS.

THIS IS THE FIRST READING OF THIS ORDINANCE IS TO CREATION OF A PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT FOR THE RUSSELL RANCH SUBDIVISION.

IT SITS AT THE CORNER OF RUSSELL AND LOVE IT.

SO IT WOULD BE THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF THAT, UH, OF THAT INTERSECTION.

AS YOU CAN SEE IT UP THERE, THE, UH, THAT'S ON THE FAR RIGHT SIDE.

THAT'S LOVE IT.

AND THEN RUSSELL GOES FROM EAST TO WEST ACROSS THE TOP.

THE, UH, THE REASON IT'S NOT A SINGLE FAMILY, THEY, DON'T NOT ALL THE LOTS WILL MEET THE LOT SIZES FOR SINGLE FAMILY.

ONE.

THEY ACTUALLY ARE PROPOSING THREE DIFFERENT TIERS, SIZED LOTS.

THEY'RE STILL SINGLE FAMILY.

SO, UM, SO THIS CREATES, UH, BY ORDINANCE.

AND AS YOU GO THROUGH THE ORDINANCE, YOU'LL SEE THAT THERE ARE CERTAIN CONDITIONS FOR THIS PROPERTY THAT THEY'VE EITHER ASKED OR THEY WANT, OR ARE, THAT WERE NEGOTIATED IN THOSE DISCUSSIONS.

SO AGAIN, IT MAINTAINS THE INTEGRITY THAT IT IS STILL, IT'S NOT THE MULTITENANT.

THERE'S NO DUPLEXES, THERE'S NONE OF THAT, BUT IT IS SINGLE FAMILY.

THE LOT SIZES ARE THE MOST, UH, UH, UH, THE MOST SIGNIFICANCE ABOUT THIS.

SO, UH, NOW WE'VE ADDED IN, HERE'S SOME THINGS, AND WE'VE HAD SOME DISCUSSIONS LIKE NO HORSESHOE DRIVEWAYS.

WHEN YOU GO TO A BROADWAY PLACE, UH, I'VE SEEN IT.

THIS IS WHERE I'VE SEEN IN PHASE ONE.

YOU SEE THAT, UH, A VERY LIKE A 50 FOOT LOT WITH A HORSESHOE, A LOT OF CONCRETE, UH, THEN YOU'VE GOT DRIVEWAYS ON EITHER SIDE.

YOU'RE NOT SEEING ANY GREENERY.

YOU'RE NOT, IT'S NOT TRADITIONAL.

SO FOR THESE SMALLER SAW LOTS, WE'RE NOT PROPOSING THAT YOU HAVE HORSESHOE DRIVEWAYS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT BECAUSE IT TAKES AWAY FROM THE AESTHETICS.

IF THE LAW, IF YOU BOUGHT TWO LOTS, AND WE HAD A CERTAIN REQUIREMENTS THAT IF IT WAS MAYBE 75 FEET, NOT 50, NOT 60, BUT SOMETHING ADDITIONAL LAND.

WELL, THEN IT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE THAT YOU COULD HAVE A HORSESHOE DRIVEWAY BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT A LOT MORE LAND.

SO, UH, BUT WHEN YOU LOOKED THROUGH SOME OF THE SUBSIDIES AND WE SEE THAT, UH, IN SOME AREAS, UH, I RECALL WHEN I WAS ON, UH, ON CHAPMAN DOWN THERE, WHEN I WAS OFF OF TURNER AND THE DOWN BY, UH, VIA GROUNDS, NEW DEVELOPMENT, I WENT UP AND I SAW THESE DRIVEWAYS.

I'M CALLING THEY'RE SMALL LOTS.

AND THEY'RE PUTTING IN A LOT OF CONCRETE.

THEY'RE PUTTING IN INSTEAD OF THE FOUR OR FIVE FOOT SIDEWALKS FROM THE STREET TO THE HOUSE, THERE'S LIKE EIGHT FEET OF CONCRETE AND THEN AESTHETIC BREAKS ON THE SITE.

I MEAN, UH, I KNOW PEOPLE DON'T LIKE TO MOW, BUT YOU'RE JUST EVEN, YOU MAY BE MEETING THE REQUIREMENT FOR VEGETATION, BUT IT'S AN AWFUL LOT OF CONCRETE.

SO, UM, AGAIN, YOU'LL SEE IT IN THERE.

THIS IS THE FIRST READING.

WE HAVE ANOTHER, UH, ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS THIS.

UH, BUT WE WANT IT TO, AT LEAST I WANT TO IDENTIFY WITH THE ORDINANCE BECAUSE IF IT'S DIFFERS FROM WHAT THE ORDINANCE IS, WE'RE BEING MUCH MORE SPECIFIC.

UM, SETBACKS IS VERY SPECIFIC HERE.

THAT'S 15 FOOT SETBACKS.

OUR ZONING GENERALLY REQUIRES 10, AND YOU'RE OKAY WITH A 10 FOOT SETBACK ON A CORNER LOT UNTIL YOU HAVE A GARAGE.

AND UNTIL YOU HAVE, YOU WANT TO PARK IN THAT GARAGE.

AND THEN THE BACK END OF THE VEHICLE IS OVER THE CITY SIDEWALK, WHICH HAS GOTTA BE 15 FEET.

AND THERE'S ALSO IN THE

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TRANSPORTATION CODE THAT YOU CANNOT CREATE A LINE OF SIGHT ISSUE.

IT'S A HAZARD, IT'S A VIOLATION OF THE TRANSPORTATION CODE.

SO WHAT WE DO IS CURRENTLY WE IMPOSE THAT IF YOU'VE GOT A GARAGE ON A SITE, LOT ON A CORNER LOT ON THE SIDE, THE HOUSE COULD BE 10.

THAT GARAGE HAS GOT TO BE 15 BECAUSE YOU CANNOT, WE'RE NOT GOING TO ALLOW PARKING OVER CITY SIDEWALK.

IT'S A VIOLATION OF STATE LAW.

SO NOW WE'RE JUST BEING MUCH MORE SPECIFIC.

WE'RE PUTTING IT INTO THESE DEVELOPMENT CODES.

WE'RE TELLING THE BUILDERS WHEN WE APPROVED IT YET, WE'RE NOT APPROVING THIS FOR THESE REASONS.

THERE ARE OTHER LAWS THAT ARE APPLICABLE THAT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE IT'S A, WE'RE INCORPORATING THESE INTO THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS AND WE'VE INCORPORATED INTO THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT.

SO, UH, IF YOU'VE GOT ANY COMMENTS, UH, YOU KNOW, SIDEBAR CONVERSATION YOU WANT TO HAVE BEFORE THE NEXT READING, PLEASE GET WITH ME, BUT THIS IS THE FIRST TIME YOU GET TO SEE IT.

AND, UM, AND AGAIN, IT'S CONVERSATIONS THAT WE'VE HAD WITH THE DEVELOPER AND WATCHING ON THIS MATTER, MAN, WHAT WAS THE SMALLEST LOT SIZE? I KNOW THERE ARE TIMES THEY WERE TOYING WITH THAT IDEA.

DID THEY, DID WE GET THE DIMENSIONS? DID WE GET THE DIMENSIONS OF THE SMALLEST LOT SIZE, THE SMALLEST LOT SIZE, THE SMALL, YOU HAVE A LIST OF THE DIFFERENT VARIABLES.

LET ME BRING THIS TO FLOOD, MAN.

UH, UH, I DIDN'T SEE MR. FLEMING THERE.

UM, MR. FLOOD BERNARD LETTING US TO FLINT AND SPEAK, UM, HE REPRESENTS YOUR HOMES AND I THINK INVENTIVE THEATERS COULD SAY, SIR, YES, DAVE FLOOD MEN WITH YOU, OUR HOME, TEXAS.

UM, SO ON THE SMALLEST LOT SIZES WE HAVE OR ALONG THE NORTH BOUNDARY THERE, AND THEY'RE 50 BY 110, UM, WE HAVE 75% OF THE, OF THE HOME SITES ACTUALLY EXCEED THE OVERALL SQUARE FOOTAGE, MINIMUM SQUARE FOOTAGE.

AND 98% OF THEM EXCEED THE FRONTAGE FOR, FOR THE HOME SITES.

AND THE IDEA IS TO PROVIDE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR EITHER STARTER HOMES TO BE BUILT THERE, OR, UH, WE'VE GOT A LOT OF DEMAND FOR A DOUBT.

PEOPLE DOWNSIZING INTO A SMALLER UNIT.

WHEN WE DESIGNED THE NEIGHBORHOOD, WE'RE TRYING TO CREATE, UM, A NEIGHBORHOOD WHERE WE CAN HAVE MULTIPLE GENERATIONS OF A FAMILY, UM, LIVING IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.

SO YOU COULD HAVE A FAMILY RAISING KIDS AS THEY GET OLDER, THEY CAN GET A SMALLER HOUSE.

THE PARENTS CAN BE LIVING THERE AS WELL.

WHAT'S THE SIZE OF THE STREETS? THE STREET, THE STREET PAVEMENT IS 33 FEET, JUST, UH, JUST LIKE NORMAL.

UH, WE'VE GOT REDUCED RIGHT WAYS ON THE LITTLE SIDE STREETS.

THE MAIN ONE IS A 60 FOOT RIGHT AWAY.

THE OTHERS ARE 50.

UM, AND WE'VE ACCOMMODATED ALL THE UTILITIES IN THOSE.

OKAY.

AS FAR AS THE PUBLIC'S CONCERNED, IT'S, IT'S ALL NORMAL SIDE STREETS AND IT'S GOING TO BE UNDERGROUND UTILITIES.

YES, SIR.

THAT'S GOOD.

OKAY.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? UH, MY CONCERN IS THAT JUST SO YOU CAN KNOW IS THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO, I KNOW YOU'RE TRYING TO MAXIMIZE YOUR INVESTMENT, RIGHT.

AND YOU'RE GONNA TRY TO SQUEEZE AS MANY LOTS ON THERE AS POSSIBLE, BUT WHEN YOU DO THAT, UM, LET'S SAY YOU HAVE FOUR CARS TO A HOME AT MINIMUM AT MINIMUM BECAUSE THERE'S WELL OVER FOUR PEOPLE PER RESIDENT AND EACH HAVE A CAR.

CAUSE THEY ALL HAVE TO GO TO WORK.

TWO WILL FIT ON THE DRIVEWAY AND THEN TWO WILL FIT ON THE STREET.

AND IF YOU CONTINUE THAT, THAT'S WHEN YOU START HAVING PEOPLE PARKING ON SIDEWALKS OR ON CURBS.

AND THEN I GUESS WE'LL ALSO HAVE TO LOOK AT A TRAFFIC ANALYSIS STUDY, RIGHT.

BECAUSE I KNOW YOU'RE, AGAIN, YOU'RE TRYING TO MAXIMIZE HOW MANY HOMES YOU CAN FIT THERE, BUT IS IT FEASIBLE FOR THE, THE TWO EXIT ROADS WE'VE DONE A TRAFFIC ANALYSIS AND COLD TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS.

IT'LL SEND IT TO US.

RIGHT.

AND THEN, UH, WE'VE ACTUALLY, WE'LL BE REQUIRING TWO CAR GARAGES.

SO, UM, THERE'S TWO CARS IN THERE AND, UH, TWO COULD FIT IN THE DRIVEWAYS AND, AND WE'RE SETTING UP AN HOA.

SO WE'LL BE CONTROLLING ALL THE ARCHITECTURAL STANDARDS.

OKAY, GREAT.

YEAH.

THE PUSHES.

NOPE.

IS IT, HAVE YOU FULL, HAVE YOU FULLY, UM, COMPLETED THE TERMS OF THE HOA OR NOT YET? BECAUSE I KNOW SOMETIMES AFTER 50% OF THE LOTS ARE SOLD, IT KIND OF JUST SELF RUN OR DISSIPATES THE WAY WHERE I HAVE A DRAFT, UM, THAT WE'VE, WE'VE DRAWN UP WITH OUR ATTORNEYS NOW.

UM, WE TYPICALLY WILL HOLD ON TO THE CONTROL OF THE BOARD UNTIL 80% OF THE LOTS ARE COMPLETED.

AND THEN WE'LL TURN IT OVER TO THE HOMEOWNERS.

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WE TRY TO SET A REAL HIGH STANDARD WITH LITTLE GRADES COMING IN.

THANK YOU, SIR.

YOU'RE PUSHING US.

NO, I'M GOOD.

THANK YOU, SIR.

[22. Public Hearing: To solicit input regarding a Re-plat of 508 South Bowie Street, bearing a Legal Description of a 0.258-Acre T ract of Land Comprised of Lot 1 and North Half of Lot 2, Block 8, Heywood Addition, City of San Benito, Cameron County, Texas, according to Map Recorded in Volume 2, Page 27, Map Records of Cameron County, Texas. Applicant: Mr. Carlos Rene Sosa Rojas.]

OKAY.

AND THEN NUMBER 22, PUBLIC HEARING TO SOLICIT INPUT ON TO A REPLAT OF IF I WERE EIGHT SOUTH BUOY STREET, BEARING ILLEGAL LEGAL DESCRIPTION OF A 0.25 ACRES TRACT OF LAND COMPROMISE OF LOT, ONE, NOT HALF OF LOT TO BLOCKADE.

HE WITH THE ADDITION CHEMICAL IN TEXAS, ACCORDING TO MAP RECORDS IN VOLUME TWO PAGE 27, MY RECORDS OVER CAMERA COUNTY, TEXAS, AND, UM, MR. CARLOS, UH, RENEE SALSA.

AND, UM, MANY, THERE WAS A PERCENTAGE OF KYMERA COMMISSIONERS, UH, UH, BEHIND YOU YOU'LL SEE THE SITE.

SO, UH, ALL PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 200 FOOT RADIUS OF THAT SITE HAVE BEEN NOTIFIED.

THEY'RE EMERGING TWO PROPERTIES INTO ONE.

THAT'S GETTING TO BE VERY POSITIVE IN THE OLDER PART OF TOWN.

SO, UH, THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING.

SO WE'LL HEAR ANY COMMENTS FOR, UH, WHETHER IN FAVOR OR OBJECTIONS TO THIS, BUT AT THIS POINT, UH, WE'VE ALREADY PUBLISHED NOTICE, UH, AND IT'S ALREADY GONE BEFORE THE PLANNING ZONING COMMISSION.

OKAY.

UM, SO I'LL OPEN UP FOR PUBLIC HEARING.

IT'S A 7 0 6 AND WE'RE IN OPEN PUBLIC HEARING.

AS MAYOR, COMMISSIONER, I THINK CORRECT IT BECAUSE THIS IS A REPLANT.

IT DOES NOT REQUIRED TO GO TO, UM, PLANNING'S ONLY, ONLY CITY COMMISSION.

IT'S ONLY HERE.

OKAY.

SO IF WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, NO.

OKAY.

AND, UM, THE TIME IS A 7 0 7 AND CLOSED PRIVATE CARING.

[23. Consideration and possible action to approve a Re-plat of 508 South Bowie Street, bearing a Legal Description of a 0.258-Acre Tract of Land Comprised of Lot 1 and the North Half of Lot 2, Block 8, Heywood Addition, City of San Benito, Cameron County, Texas, according to Map Recorded in Volume 2, Page 27, Map Records of Cameron County, Texas. Applicant: Mr. Carlos Rene Sosa Rojas.]

AND MY 23 CAUSE RATION PASSWORD ACTION TO APPROVE A REPLY FIVE AWAY TO SOUTH BUOY STREET DURING THE LEGAL DESCRIPTION OF A 0.2, FIVE, EIGHT ACRE TRACK OF LAND COMPROMISE OF LOT ONE AND THE NORTH HALF OF LOCKE TO BLOCKADE, HERITAGE HAYWOOD, ADDITION, CITY, OR SOMEBODY TO CAMERA COUNT TICKETS.

ACCORDING TO MATT RECORDS IN VOLUME TWO PAGE 27, MAVERICK IS OF CHEMICAL TO THE TEXAS APPLICANT, MR. CARLOS, VANESSA ROJAS, AND MANY, THERE IS A PERCENTAGE.

YEAH.

AND COMMISSIONERS, WE JUST HAD A PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS MATTER.

AGAIN, WE CONTINUE TO RECEIVE NO OBJECTION NOR WE HAVE HEARD ANYTHING.

SO IT IS THAT RECOMMENDATION THAT THIS REPLAT BE APPROVED.

OKAY.

UH, TENNIS TO BUILD A SINGLE FAMILY STRUCTURE, THIS PROPERTY.

AND FOR THAT RECOMMENDATION, I MOVED GROUP.

OKAY.

WE'VE GOT A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER VIA FRANCO.

SECOND, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER GALVAN.

ALL IN FAVOR.

ANY NAYS MOTION PASSES?

[24. Presentation of the City of San Benito Financial Statements ending January 31, 2022.]

I REMEMBER 24 PRESENTATION, A CITY, A 72 FINANCIAL STATEMENTS ENDING IN JANUARY 31ST, 2022.

AND MR. LIMPING, I PRESENTED THIS AT UH, GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR AND COMMISSIONERS FOR THE RECORD BELLIN PENA FINANCE DIRECTOR FOR THE THEATER.

SOMEBODY TAUGHT YOU PACK.

IT IS A JANUARY, 2022 OR FINANCIAL REPORT.

UH, THE FIRST PAGE IS THE BALANCE SHEET AS OF, UH, JANUARY 31ST, 2022.

WE SHOW, UH, ASSETS OF 19,000,500, 1,271 COMPARE TO THE PREVIOUS YEAR, THE SAME PERIOD OR 16 MILLION 4 97, 7 32.

UH, WE HAVE A LIABILITY.

SO, UH, 20 MILLIONS, 9 29, 20, UH, FOR THIS CURRENT MONTH AND A FINE BALANCE OF 15 MILLION, 5 82 51 COMPARED ALSO TO THE PREVIOUS YEAR, THE LIABILITIES OF 3 MILLION, 50,706.

AND THE FUND BALANCE OF 13 MILLION, 4 47 AND $26.

YES, SIR.

MS. BELINDA, DOES THIS INCLUDE THE ARPA MONEY ALREADY? NO, THIS IS JUST THE GENERAL FUND THAT THEY ARE A FENCE.

THAT IS AN ANOTHER FUND.

OKAY.

UH, THE SECOND PAGE IS, UH, THE STATEMENT OF REVENUES EXPENDITURES AND CHANGES IN FUND BALANCE.

FOR THE MONTH OF JANUARY, WE HAD A REVENUE,

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SO 1 MILLION, 137, 1 94.

AND THE YEAR TODAY REVENUES HAS 7 MILLION, 3 0 5, 7 34.

WELL, THE EXPENDITURES, WE HAVE A HUNDRED, 1 MILLION, 116,055 YEAR TO DATE IS 4,096,787, WHICH GIVE US A FUN CHANGE IN FUND BALANCE OF 20 1001 39 FOR THE MONTH AND YEAR TWO DAY 3 MILLION, 209,647, UH, FOR THE FOUR MONTH PERIOD, UH, FROM OCTOBER TO JANUARY, THE TARGET IS 33.3, 2% IN REVENUES REACH OUT 48 POINT 75% AND IN EXPENDITURES 29 POINT 21%.

ANY QUESTIONS? OKAY.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU.

[25. Executive Session:]

OKAY.

NUMBER 25 EXECUTIVE SESSION CONSULT WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY PURSUANT TO GOVERNMENT CODE 5 0 1 0.0712 PERTAIN TO A WATER RATE ORDINANCE.

AND, UM, THAT'S IT.

AT THE TIME IT WAS A SEVEN 11 AND WE'RE IN EXECUTIVE SESSION.

[26. Consideration and possible action on Executive Session Item 25 (a).]

I A NUMBER OF 26 CONSIDERATION POSSIBLE ACTION ON THE EXECUTIVE SESSION, I DID NUMBER 25 8 AND IT WAS WE'RE GOING TO TABLE IT.

NO, NO, ACTUALLY NOT.

OKAY.

GOTCHA.

UH, I DON'T KNOW, 26 DAYS THERE'S NO ACTION.

OR 27, THE GERMAN.

WE HAVE A MOTION TO ADJOURN MOTION BY COMMISSIONER GARCIA.

SECOND BY COMMISSIONER.

ALL IN FAVOR.

ANY NAYS? MOTION TO ADJOURN? TIME IS, UH, 8 56.

WE ADJOURN.