* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [1. Welcome.] [00:00:06] NO, ONE'S HAVE A REGULAR MEETING OF THE CITY OF TOMATO COMMISSION MEETING TUESDAY, NOVEMBER 2ND, 2021. IT'S A FIVE 30. I'D LIKE TO WELCOME EVERYBODY. UH, LIKE TO CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER, WE HAVE A WARM AND, UH, OUT OF NUMBER TWO, THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG IN THE, AND THE TEXAS FLAG. AND PLEASE REMAIN STANDING FOR THE INVOCATION BY MR. PAAVOLA. ONE NATION UNDER GOD. I'M GOING TO TEXAS STATE AND THEY'RE GONE. WHY LET US PRAY, DEAR LORD, OUR GOD. AS WE GATHER HERE THIS EVENING, MAY YOU SHOWER YOUR BLESSINGS UPON EACH OF US AND PREPARE OUR HEARTS FOR THE THINGS THAT WILL BE DISCUSSED, HELP US TO BE A BLESSING AND THE WAY WE SPEAK AND ACT, LET EVERYTHING WE DISCUSS HERE. BE IN ALIGNMENT WITH YOUR WORD. AND MAY WE SPEAK WITH HUMILITY WHEN PRESENTING OUR IDEAS, HELP US TO RESPECT EACH OTHER AND BE WILLING TO ACT UPON THE SOLUTIONS PEOPLE GIVE US MAYOR GLORY AND PEACE. FILL THIS MEETING IN JESUS'S NAME. WE BELIEVE IN PRAY. AMEN. OKAY. THANK YOU, MR. PROBABLY THOUGH. OKAY. I [4. Announcements: Items of Community Interest.] DON'T REMEMBER FOR ANNOUNCEMENT, UH, ITEMS OF A COMMUNITY INTEREST AND THE COMMISSIONER HAVE ANYTHING RIGHT NOW. NOPE. OKAY. I DO. UM, ON THE ITEMS, UH, THERE WILL BE A FLU SHOT, A FREE FLU SHOT, THE DRIVE-THRU, UH, VACCINATION EVENT OF THE CITY OF SAN BENITO RESIDENCE ON WEDNESDAY, NOVEMBER 3RD AT THE 9:00 AM TO NINE, EIGHT TO 11:00 AM AT THE PARKING LOT NEXT TO EVERY PARK, 3 55 WEST US HIGHWAY 77 FOR MORE INFORMATION CALLED, UH, CONTACT LYDIA GOMEZ AT 9 5 6 3 5 7 45 64. AND, UH, I KNOW THIS IS NOT ONE OF US, BUT, UH, I'D LIKE TO RECOGNIZE RIGHT NOW THAT, UH, WE HAVE FOR TOMORROW, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE, UH, ONE OF THE COMMISSIONERS GOING TO HAVE A BIRTHDAY. SO I KNOW HE WASN'T EXPECTING THAT ONE. SO I WANTED TO, UH, EMBARRASS HIM. I WANT TO EMBARRASS HIM THAT, UH, IT WAS GOING TO BE A BIRTHDAY. SO I OLD YOU GOING TO HAVE TO ASK HIM. I WAS WILLING TO ASK THAT I SAY THAT OR NOT. OKAY. SO Y'ALL WANT TO SING HAPPY BIRTHDAY OR JUST LET IT GO. OKAY. HELLO BIRTHDAY. THANKS EVERYONE. OKAY. UH, MOVING ON, UM, INSTEAD OF SOMEBODY THROW A FIRE DEPARTMENT, I INVITE THE PUBLIC TO ATTEND A VETERAN'S DAY FLAG RAISING CEREMONY AT 9:00 AM ON THIRSTY NOVEMBER 11TH, BEING HELD AT THE SOMEBODY OF VETERANS WAR MEMORIAL PARK, 1 51 EAST, UH, RAWSON STREET. AND, UM, AND THEN, UH, THERE'S GOING TO BE, UH, PLEASE JOIN US FOR THE RECYCLE CITY FOOD COURT AND VETERANS DAY CELEBRATION EVENT WILL TAKE PLACE AT THE W H A HAVEN MEMORIAL PARK LOCATED AT 7 0 5 NORTH BUOY ON SATURDAY, NOVEMBER 13, FROM FOUR TO, UH, UH, FROM 4:00 PM TO 10:00 PM WITH A VETERANS, MARCH AND SPECIAL CEREMONY, BEGINNING OF THE 4:00 PM VETERANS WANTING TO PARTICIPATE IN THE MARCH OR AS TO MEET AT THE CITY. UH, SOMEBODY WHO LIBRARY ONE OH ONE WEST ROSE, PLEASE CALL THE CITY AT (946) 361-3800 OR VISIT THE CITY, UH, FACEBOOK PAGE FOR MORE INFORMATION. AND RIGHT NOW, SINCE IT'S GOING TO BE AWARE OF HAVING VETERANS, UH, I'D LIKE TO SEE RECOGNIZE THAT ANY VETERANS THAT ARE HERE, IF YOU DON'T MIND, UH, LIKE TO TAKE THIS MOMENT TO, UH, UH, IF YOU CAN PLEASE STAND AND THAT WAY WE CAN RECOGNIZE YOU THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, AND THANK YOU FOR THE SERVICES THAT YOU HAVE DONE, CHIEF. YEAH. CHIEF, NO, DON'T BE SHY. DON'T BE SAY, OKAY. LIKE TO THANK ALL THE VETERANS, UH, FOR, UH, YOU KNOW, FOR ALL THE SERVICES THAT, UH, THEY HAD DONE FOR, UH, FOR US, FOR THIS NATION. AND, UH, AGAIN, UM, AND THE LAST ONE'S GOING TO BE THE COMMUNITY CHRISTMAS AND TREE [00:05:01] LIGHTING THAT WILL BE HELD ON SATURDAY, NOVEMBER 4TH, UH, FROM 5:00 PM TO 7:00 PM, UH, W H UH, HAVING MEMORIAL PARK CHEER DANCE INQUIRE GROUPS ARE ENCOURAGED TO REGISTER TO PERFORM AT THIS FREE EVENT FOR MORE INFORMATION, PLEASE CONTACT PARKS AND RECS RECREATION DEPARTMENT AT THE 9 5 6 3 6 1 3800. AND THAT'S ALL WE HAVE ON THAT. CAN WE SURE. DO WE HAVE ANY, ANY OTHER INFORMATION DID Y'ALL WANT TO PRESENT RIGHT NOW? NOTHING. OKAY. THEN WE'LL MOVE FORWARD. OKAY. [5. Public Comments-(Speaker/Remarks limited to three minutes).] I DON'T KNOW IF I HAVE A PUBLIC COMMENT, BRUCE, DO WE HAVE ANYBODY FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS? I GUESS MAYOR MR. IVONNE ALSO GHETTO, WHICH SUPPOSED TOGETHER, UH, GOOD EVENING COMMISSION, THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK AND YOUR TIME. UH, I WAS LOOKING AT THE NEWS THE OTHER DAY, AND I SAW A HEADLINE THAT WE WERE LOOKING INTO RENOVATING THE STONEWALL JACKSON BUILDING SAW COMMON FROM OUR MAYOR AND, UH, I JUST REALLY WANT TO APPLAUD EVERYONE INVOLVED BECAUSE THE PLAN IS TO HAVE THE SECOND AND THIRD FLOOR FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING. UH, THERE WAS ANOTHER HEADLINE I SAW SOME MONTHS AGO THAT TALKED ABOUT HOW RGV IS ONE OF THE MOST UNAFFORDABLE PLACES TO LIVE RELATIVE TO THE WAGES OF THE CITIZENS THAT LIVE HERE. SO ANY, ANY CHANCE THAT WE CAN PROVIDE HOUSING, THAT'S AFFORDABLE TO THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE HERE IT'S MUCH APPRECIATED. UM, I THINK THE FIRST FLOOR WAS PLANNED TO BE A RESTAURANT, UH, ALONG WITH OTHER RETAIL SPACES. AND, UM, I JUST WANT TO SUGGEST THAT WE PROVIDE PROGRAMS THERE, LIKE, UH, CHILDCARE, UM, MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES ON THAT FIRST FLOOR FOR THE PEOPLE IN AFFORDABLE HOUSING WHO COULD USE IT THE MOST. UM, AND NO, UH, NO LOAN CENTERS AROUND THAT AREA. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, SIR. YEAH. OH, WELL, HE'S MAKING IT PUBLIC TO, UH, FOLLOW THE PUBLIC COMMENTS ON HER. SO THANK YOU, SIR. UH, RUTH, ANYBODY ELSE? NO, SIR. OKAY. [6. Consideration and possible action to approve the Minutes of the August 10, 2021 City of San Benito Workshop] OKAY. I DON'T REMEMBER SIX A CONSIDERATION POSSIBLE ACTION TO APPROVE MINUTES ON, UH, AUGUST 10, 20, 21, UH, CITY OF SAMANTHA WORKSHOP. UH, ANY QUESTIONS? OKAY. OKAY. GOOD. A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER. THEN ONE SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WILL BE A FRANCO ALL IN FAVOR. ANY NAYS MOTION PASSES. OKAY. I DON'T [7. Consideration and possible action to approve Resolution Number 2021-1102-07(R) authorizing the Chief of Police or his designee to approve the application and acceptance of any Local Border Security Program (LBSP) Grant Number 3150906 that the Office of the Governor, Homeland Security Grants Division, issues for the period of performance beginning September 1, 2021 and ending August 31, 2022.] REMEMBER SEVEN CONSIDERATION POSSIBLE ACTION TO APPROVE A SOLUTION. NUMBER 2021 DASH 11 0 2 DASH ZERO SEVEN. MARK AUTHORIZING THE CHIEF OF POLICE TO, OR HIS DESIGNEE TO APPROVE THE APPLICATION AND ACCEPTANCE OF ANY LOCAL BORDER SECURITY PROGRAM. L S L B S P GRANT NUMBER 3 1 5 0 9 0 6. THAT THE OFFICE OF THE GOVERNOR OF HOMELAND SECURITY GRANTS DIVISION ISSUES FOR THE PERIOD OF REPORT PERFORMANCE BEGINNING OF SEPTEMBER 1ST, 2021 AND ENDING AUGUST 31ST, 2022. AND WE GOT A POLICE CHIEF TERMINATE THE COMMISSIONERS FOR THE RECORD POLICE CHIEF, MARIO THE ACADEMY FOR YEARS, A REQUEST TO APPROVE A RESOLUTION EXCEPT THIS YEAR'S LOCAL BOARD SECURITY GRANT. THIS GRANT PROVIDES OVERTIME THAT ALLOWS THE DEPARTMENT TO CONDUCT ENHANCED LAW ENFORCEMENT PATROL ACTIVITIES IN CERTAIN TARGETED AREAS. THE GOAL IS TO DETER CRIME AND TO DISRUPT THE SALE OF ILLEGAL NARCOTICS STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL. AND I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS. IS THIS SIMILAR TO THE STONE? WAS IT CALLED A STONE STONE GARDEN? IT'S UH, THAT GRANT IS MORE FOR, WE GET A DESIGNATED AREA OFF OF 2 81, 5 0 9, 7 32, UH, OUT OF CITY LIMITS. THIS ONE IS DEDICATED FOR INSIDE CITY INTO CITY. YEAH. THIS ONE IS SORRY ABOUT THAT. UH, THIS IS, UH, FROM THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE SIZE ASSUME THIS IS A STATE GRANT VERSUS THESE FEDERAL THAT'S A FEDERAL GRANT. OKAY. SO YOU MENTIONED TARGETED AREAS WHERE HAVE YOU DETERMINED WHAT AREAS OR IS IT ANYWHERE HERE IN TOWN OR WE LOOK AT THE TRENDS TO SEE WHAT'S GOING ON IN EACH NEIGHBORHOOD. AND, UH, WE'LL FOCUS ON, ON THAT, BUT AS FAR AS, YOU KNOW, AREAS THAT WE HAVE DESIGNATED RIGHT NOW, [00:10:01] IT'S UNDETERMINED AT THIS POINT. IT'S STILL A GOOD GRANT. ANYWAY, THANK YOU. QUESTION. DO I HAVE, DO YOU KNOW THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT'S AVAILABLE FOR, FOR US OR ANYBODY IN PARTICULAR? IT'S A, THEY AWARDED US 15,000 THIS YEAR, STRICTLY FOR OVERTIME OR? YES. WELL, THERE'S DIFFERENT THINGS YOU CAN USE IT FOR, BUT IT'S, IT'S MORE FOR THE OFFICERS. UH, LIKE I SAID, FOR PATROL AND ALL THAT STUFF IN THOSE AREAS, AND IT'S SHARED ON ALL OFFICERS, WE, WE PUT UP A SIGN UP SHEET AND THEN WE SEND IT OUT TO THE OFFICERS. WHOEVER WANTS TO SIGN UP, THEY GO ON SIGN UP AHEAD OF TIME. AND THEN WE PUT OUT A SCHEDULE FOR EVERYBODY TO SEE, AND WE EMAIL IT TO EVERYONE. SO EVERYONE KNOWS WHO'S WORKING WHEN THEY'RE WORKING, BUT WE TRY NOT TO PUT TOO MUCH TOO. SO WE WON'T OVERLOAD, UH, THE DISPATCHER. THANK YOU, CHIEF. WELL, THE TIE IN WITH THE, UH, FOR INSTANCE, THE NEIGHBORHOOD CRIME WATCH PROGRAM, ALONG WITH THE VACATION, BECAUSE I NOTICED YOU, YOU INITIATED A VACATION PATROL, I GUESS, OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. UH, TH THIS WILL BE, THIS WILL BE SEPARATE. THE VACATION IS WELL FOR OUR PATROL SHIFTS, ASSIGNED PATROL SHIFTS AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD WATCH THE SAME THING. IF WE GET CONCERNS IN CERTAIN AREAS, THAT'LL BE THE PATROL AREAS WOULD BE MORE FOCUSED FOR THAT. THIS IS A, LIKE I SAID, THERE IS SEVERAL PLACES THAT WE DO TARGET SOMETIMES, UH, BECAUSE A LOT OF THE UPTICK IN CRIME IN THOSE AREAS. SO THAT WOULD BE MORE GENERATED FOR THAT. ALL RIGHT. I GUESS, IS THERE, IS THERE OPPORTUNITY FOR MORE FUNDING? IS THAT WHAT THE, THIS IS WHAT THE STATE DETERMINED WAS ACCEPTABLE. IT THOUSAND DOESN'T SEEM LIKE IT. HOW MANY OFFICERS, HOW MANY HOURS DO YOU THINK OF OVER TIME? THIS ACT GET US, UM, LIKE AVERAGE THE WAY THEY BREAK IT DOWN. THE, THE, WITH, UH, THE COORDINATOR BREAKS DOWN HIS PER SHIFT. SO USUALLY HE SAYS LIKE, WELL, WE HAVE LIKE A HUNDRED SHIFTS OR AROUND THERE, BUT, UH, JUST DEPENDS ON HOW MANY SHIFTS THEY WORK. YOU LEAVE, WE TRY TO LIMIT IT TO FOUR HOUR BLOCKS, BUT IF OFFICERS DO HAVE EIGHT, EIGHT, UH, THE DAY OFF WHERE THEY CAN WORK AN EIGHT HOUR BLOCK OF IT, SO THAT'D BE EIGHT HOURS OF OVERTIME. YES. OR FOUR HOURS BEFORE SOME INDIVIDUALS, NOT ALL, YES. SOMETIMES STAY OVER 2, 3, 4 HOURS AS LONG AS THEY CHAIR THE WELFARE. THIS IS MY THING. YES, SIR. OKAY. YES. OKAY. UM, OKAY. I GET THE MOTION BY MIRACLE 10 SANCHEZ. AND THEN SECOND BY COMMISSIONER. WE HAVE, UM, I'M SORRY, GIVE ME, SIR. I GOT ONE. SORRY. AND SO, UM, ALL IN FAVOR, ANY OPPOSED MOTION PASSES. THANK YOU. WAS THE LAST ONE I HEARD YOU SPEAK THIS WAY. OKAY. I DIDN'T [8. Consideration and possible action to approve Amendment to Contract Agreement with Mercury Public Affairs for the term of November 1, 2021 to October 31, 2022.] KNOW. MARIA CAUSE ORIGINAL POSSIBLE ACTION TO APPROVE AMENDMENT TO CONTRACT AGREEMENT WITH THE MERCURY PUBLIC AFFAIRS WAS THE TERM ON NOVEMBER 1ST, 2021 TO OCTOBER 31ST, 2022. AND WE HAVE A CITY MANAGER MIRA COMMISSIONERS COULD EVENING BEFORE YOU, YOU HAVE THE AMENDMENT TO THE CONTRACT AGREEMENT WITH MERCURY PUBLIC AFFAIRS. UH, THE TERMS, UH, CONTINUES TO BE THE SAME, OTHER THAN THE EFFECTIVE DATE AND TERMINATION DATE COMPENSATION RATE IS STILL THE SAME AMOUNT, $6,000 PER, UH, PER MONTH PLUS ANY EXPENSES. SO, UH, I, NOT ONLY DID I ADD THE, THE LAST THREE OR TWO PRIOR CONTRACT AMENDMENTS, BUT ALSO ADDED THE, UH, ALSO INCLUDED IN YOUR EXHIBIT, THE, UH, ORIGINAL CONTRACT WITH ALL THE TERMS, IT STAFF RECOMMENDATION THAT, UH, THAT THIS CONTRACT BE RENEWED, UH, MR. PARKER MCCULLOUGH, UH, CERTAINLY, UH, BEEN VERY INSTRUMENTAL IN HELPING US, NOT ONLY AT THE CITY COUNTY, STATE AND FEDERAL LEVELS, AS YOU MIGHT RECALL, NOT ONLY, UH, THE MOST RECENT LEGISLATION OF 2019 THAT THE GARNER DOES TO A LEGISLATIVE HOUSE BILLS, BUT ALSO WHEN, UH, THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HUD WAS TRYING TO GET $1.3 MILLION, UH, WORKING WITH THE, WITH THE FEDERAL SENATORS, GETTING US THROUGH THAT PROCESS, UH, NOT ONLY, UH, WITH OUR, UH, LOCAL FEDERAL DELEGATION, BUT ALSO WITH THE HUD OFFICIALS IN WASHINGTON THROUGH HIS COMPANY OR THE COMPANY THAT RETAINS HIM. UM, AND ALSO, UH, THERE ARE TIMES THAT WE NEED ASSISTANCE FROM, UH, VARIOUS OTHER ELECTED OFFICIALS AROUND, UH, NOT ONLY, UH, IN THE STATE, BUT, UH, AT VARIOUS LEVELS OF GOVERNMENT THROUGHOUT THE STATE. I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS. YES, SIR. UH, I SAW SOMETHING ABOUT $4,000. THERE YOU GO ON SCHEDULE TO THE 4,000 WAS THE INITIAL FIRST EAR. OKAY. SO IT'S GONE UP TO 6,000. YES, SIR. AND IT'S HELD AT 6,000. YES, SIR. PER MONTH. SO TOTAL OF 72,000. [00:15:01] THAT IS CORRECT. AND, UM, ARE THE, IS THAT PAID FROM WHAT I'M FROM OUR UNDERSTANDING IT'S PAID, UH, LIKE, LIKE A CYCLE OF BILL CYCLE EVERY MONTH. I THINK THE FIRST FEW DAYS OF THE MONTH IT GETS PAID OUT, UH, IS AT WHETHER HE DOES ANY CON ANY LOBBYING FOR US OR NOT. YES, THAT IS, UH, HE AND I MAINTAIN A DAILY, UH, UH, OR WE MAINTAIN CONTACT VIA PHONE OR ZOOM OR WEBINARS, UH, TWICE A MONTH. UH, WE SPEAK MORE OFTEN THAN THAT IS NEEDED. UH, IT JUST DEPENDS ON WHAT THE ISSUE IS THAT COMES UP DURING THE LEGISLATURE LEGISLATIVE SESSION, WHICH IS SIX MONTHS EVERY OTHER YEAR, LIKE IN 2019, UH, FROM THE START OF WHEN WE STARTED MEETING IN NOVEMBER IN ANTICIPATION OF THE JANUARY LEGISLATIVE SESSION THROUGH THE END OF MAY IN BILLS GETTING PASSED IN JUNE. I MEAN, YOUR, THE WAY THE STATE LEGISLATURE WORKS IS EVERY OTHER YEAR. SO THOSE MONTHS IT'S LOTS AND LOTS OF CONTACT, WEEKLY CALLS, LEGISLATIVE UPDATES, TRYING TO FIGURE OUT EXACTLY. UH, NOT ONLY, UH, DOES HE LOOK AT THE LEGISLATION THAT'S GOING TO POSSIBLY AFFECT, UH, THE CITY'S, UH, AUTHORITY, UH, TML, WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT WE'RE A MEMBER ALSO ALSO DOES THE SAME THING, BUT TML LOOKS AT ALL THE CITIES ACROSS THE STATE. AND IF CITIES ARE IN CONFLICT WITH EACH OTHER, THEN THEY DON'T GET INVOLVED. AND THAT'S WHERE OUR HAS BENEFITS ARE OUR INTERESTS. SO, UM, SO OBVIOUSLY THERE'S, THERE IS DOWNTIME, UH, BUT THERE ARE ALWAYS, UM, ISSUES. FOR EXAMPLE, WHEN WE NEEDED ASSISTANCE WITH THIS AMERICANS WITH, UH, THE MEDICAL RESCUE PLAN FUNDS, WHERE IS IT? WE THOUGHT IT WAS COMING THROUGH TETUM IT ACTUALLY CAME TO THE STATE GOVERNMENT. WE WERE RATED AS THE METROPOLITAN AND NOT AS A SMALL CITY. SO THOSE ARE THE KINDS OF THINGS THAT HE ACTUALLY HELPS US GUIDE AND TRY AND FIND OUT EXACTLY WHERE WE NEED TO BE IN. ARE WE TALKING TO THE RIGHT FOLKS? WOW. I THINK THAT SHOULD BE THE RESPONSIBILITY OF A FINANCE DEPARTMENT OR, YOU KNOW, YOURSELF TO ATTRACT THOSE TYPES OF THINGS. I DON'T, I DON'T SEE THE, THE BENEFIT OF PAIN, IF WE'RE WHAT HE DID IN 2019. IT MAY, IT MAY SEEM, SEEMS GOOD. RIGHT? IT'S DONE. UM, BUT DO WE NEED TO CONTINUE USING THOSE SERVICE, PAYING FOR SERVICES THAT ARE NOT NEEDED BECAUSE WE GET THE TML UPDATES WEEKLY AND DURING THE LEGISLATIVE SESSION ASSASSIN, YOU WERE SENDING US THE BILL INFORMATION AND THINGS LIKE THAT. SO WHAT ADDITIONAL BENEFIT ARE WE LOOKING TO GET HERE ON AN OFF YEAR? WELL, I BELIEVE THAT WE'RE ON THE RIGHT TRACK AND HE PROVIDES LOBBYING ACTIVITIES ON BEHALF OF THE CITY AT ALL LEVELS OF GOVERNMENT. OKAY. SO IN OTHER WORDS, WE HAVE TO HAVE SOMEBODY IN OUR SIDE. WE DON'T WANT TO LOSE OPPORTUNITIES OUT THERE TO ANYBODY BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE ANYBODY TO GIVE US A HAND. AND IT SEEMS THAT THAT'S THE WAY IT WORKS. IT'S BEEN WORKING FOR US. I DON'T SEE ANY REASON TO CHANGE. WELL, I KNOW, I KNOW THAT THERE WAS A BILL THAT WAS ACTUALLY TRYING TO BE PASSED. THAT WAS NOT GOING TO ALLOW TAXPAYER MONEY TO FUND LOBBYISTS. WELL, NOT UNTIL THAT HAPPENS. THIS IS CAN, WE SHOULD CONTINUE USING TAXPAYER MONEY. ALL RIGHT. WELL, YOU CONSIDER THAT YOU THINK IT MIGHT BE IN A GOOD THING. IT'S NOT, IT'S THE BEST THING THAT'S HAPPENED TO SAM AND, YOU KNOW, IN A LONG TIME, NOT ONLY THAT THE LOBBYISTS OR MR. PARKER MCO, HE DOESN'T WAIT FOR LEGISLATION HERE. HE WORKS. HE PREPARES, WE PREPARED THIS LAST TIME A YEAR BEFORE LEGISLATION WASN'T WORKING. SO, UH, OUR WORK NEEDS TO BE DONE HIS WORK WITH, ALONG WITH THE CITIES WHERE IT NEEDS TO BE DONE WAY BEFORE THE SESSION STARTS. SO WELL, I GUESS I, BECAUSE I'M FAIRLY NEW HERE. I HAVEN'T, I'VE NEVER MET HIM. I'VE NEVER SEEN WHAT HE'S DONE DURING MY TENURE. SO HE BROUGHT YOU A PROJECT. DO YOU WORTH MORE THAN THAT'S WHAT I READ, BUT WHAT I WOULD SUGGEST IS THERE ANY, IS FINANCE HERE WHERE THEY CAN MAYBE SHOW, OKAY, WE, WE GAVE THEM A $6,000 A MONTH FEE WHERE THEY HATE WE'RE PAYING, BUT WHAT SERVICES WERE RENDERED DURING THAT MONTH MAKE A MOTION TO AND APPROVE AS RECOMMENDED BY THE CITY COMMISSION. HOLD ON. YOU MEAN, THAT WAS KIND OF RUDE. HOLD ON. WHAT, WHAT I'M ASKING IS THAT WHAT SERVICES WERE RENDERED DURING THAT MONTH? I MEAN, I'M NOT JUST GOING TO PAY SIX. I MEAN, THAT IS THAT FISCALLY FISCALLY, FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE. I'M JUST TRYING TO, I'M JUST ASKING AN HONEST QUESTION. COMMISSIONER, ACTUALLY, I'D LIKE TO SHARE MY, MY INPUT WITH YOU AS YOUR CITY ATTORNEY AND MY EXPERIENCE WITH, WITH THIS GENTLEMAN, WHO'S BEEN ACTING AS THE CITY'S LOBBYIST OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS. UM, WE'VE ACTUALLY HAD A NUMBER OF ISSUES, NOT JUST THE TWO PIECES OF LEGISLATION, WHICH RESULTED IN THE INITIATION OF THE LARGEST ECONOMIC PROJECT EVER TO, YOU KNOW, POTENTIALLY HIT SOMEBODY THAT, WHICH HAS RE RGB EPICENTER, BUT WE'VE [00:20:01] HAD A NUMBER OF OTHER ISSUES THAT TH TH TH TH HAVING PARKER IN THE LOOP HAS BEEN JUST ESSENTIAL AND INSTRUMENTAL. AND, AND CAN'T BE REPLICATED BY SOMEBODY THAT SIMPLY IN OUR ACCOUNTING DEPARTMENT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. AND I'LL GIVE YOU, I'LL GIVE YOU THREE EXAMPLES. ONE IS THE MPO MERGER. WE HAD A SITUATION WHERE WE HAD MAINTAINED THAT IN ORDER FOR US TO AGREE, TO MERGE THE MPOS, BECAUSE WE WERE THE HARD LIJUN SOMEBODY TO NPO THAT WE WOULD MAINTAIN A SEAT ON THE PLANNING COMMITTEE. AND THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS VERY IMPORTANT TO US AND AT THE VERY, AT THE LAST MINUTE, AND I'M NOT GOING TO GET IT. I MEAN, IF YOU WANT TO GO MORE TO EXECUTIVE SESSION, WE CAN GET INTO THAT, BUT THERE WERE, THERE WERE, THERE WERE THINGS THAT WERE TAKEN OUT OF THE AGREEMENT WITHOUT OUR KNOWLEDGE. OKAY. AND, UH, THERE WAS POLITICAL PRESSURE LOCALLY BROUGHT TO BEAR AT THE STATE LEGISLATIVE LEVEL, AND PARKER'S, UH, ENTER PARKER MCCULLOUGH'S INTERCESSION WITH OUR OWN LEGISLATIVE DELEGATION WAS INSTRUMENTAL IN US MAINTAINING THAT POSITION. LET'S JUST PUT IT. LET'S JUST SO LONG STORY SHORT. I SEE YOUR EXAMPLE. RIGHT. SO WE'RE GOT THREE. OKAY. SO I THAT'S WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE. OKAY. THESE ARE THE SERVICES THAT WERE RENDERED IN THIS FISCAL YEAR WARRANTYING. HE'S GETTING NOW 6,000, NOT 4,000, BECAUSE HE'S SO GREAT. RIGHT. AND MAYBE HE IS RIGHT. MAYBE HE IS, I HAVEN'T MET HIM. I DON'T, HAVEN'T READ WHAT HE'S DONE EXCEPT FOR ONE THING, BUT SO WHY DID HE GO FROM 4,000 TO 6,000? AND IF YOU HAVE A LAUNDRY LIST OF THINGS THAT I CAN SEE THAT THIS IS WHAT THE SERVICES WERE RENDERED, THEN MAYBE I COULD, MAYBE I CAN, I GAVE HER THIS, BUT I'M JUST GETTING AN AGREEMENT TO PAY SOMEONE. AND I CAN HELP YOU WITH THAT TOO. WHEN, WHEN, WHEN, UH, MR. MCCULLOUGH ORIGINALLY AGREED TO REPRESENT THE CITY AS A LOBBYIST, HE REALIZED THE CITY WAS A SMALL CITY, AND IT DIDN'T FRANKLY HAD NO EXPERIENCE HIRING A LEGISLATIVE CONSULTANT AND AGREED BASICALLY TO PROVIDE HIS CONSULTING SERVICES AT A CUT RATE. W YOU KNOW, AND SO, SO THE 4,000 HOURS REPRESENTATIVE REDUCTION FROM WHAT HE, WHO WOULD NORMALLY CHARGE, IT WAS AN INTRODUCTORY OFFER, KIND OF LIKE, LOOK, I'M WILLING TO REPRESENT YOU AT A LOW RATE. UM, AND IT'LL BE UP TO YOU TO DECIDE WHETHER OR NOT, UH, YOU KNOW, I, I WANT, I WANT WHAT I NORMALLY CHARGE, RIGHT? SO TH TH TH TH THE FACT THAT 6,000 HOURS IS NOT A HIGH AMOUNT OF MONEY FOR A CITY TO PAY A LEGISLATIVE CONSULTANT. OTHER CITIES, I KNOW, PAY MORE THAN THAT. OKAY. UH, WE ALSO HAD THE ISSUE OF, WITH HUD, WHERE, UH, TH TH TH THE CITY COULD HAVE BEEN LIABLE FOR QUITE A BIT OF MONEY, UH, TO HUD AND HIS INVOLVEMENT IN THAT SAVED THE CITY CONSIDERABLE AMOUNT OF MONEY. RIGHT. UH, AND THEN I KNOW WE HAD SOME TCEQ ISSUES, REGULATORY ISSUES WHERE PARKER'S INVOLVEMENT AND SETTING UP MEETINGS AND OPENING DOORS, UH, WAS INSTRUMENTAL THAT, THAT THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS, I MEAN, HOW DO YOU, HOW DO YOU QUANTIFY ACCESS, RIGHT? HOW DO YOU QUANTIFY IT? AND YOU'RE RIGHT. IT MAY BE SAD THAT WE HAVE TO PAY A LOBBYIST TO HAVE ACCESS TO OUR OWN GOVERNMENT. RIGHT. BUT THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS IF WE DO OKAY, AND, AND, AND, AND, AND THERE'S, UH, THERE'S A TREMENDOUS BENEFIT TO IT. THE OTHER PROBLEM THAT WE HAVE, AND TH, AND THIS IS SOMETHING I'VE SAW I'VE SEEN IN THE PAST IS THAT THE CITY DOES HAVE AN INTEREST IN REPRESENTING THE INTEREST OF ITS CONSTITUENTS. PRIVATE INDUSTRY HAS THE ABILITY TO HIRE LOBBYISTS AND TO INFLUENCE LEGISLATION. AND IF YOU TAKE THAT AWAY FROM LOCAL GOVERNMENT, THE ONLY, THE ONLY VOICE THAT THEY IS, THE, IS THE PRIVATE INTEREST, NOT THE PUBLIC INTEREST. SO, SO I, I THINK, I THINK WITH A WHILE THAT WHILE THAT, UH, THAT, THAT ATTEMPTED BILL, WHICH DID FAIL, UM, I SEE THEIR POINT, BUT IT'S KIND OF LIKE, THAT'S NOT REALLY THE WAY THE WORLD ACTUALLY WORKS. I MEAN, UNLESS YOU GET RID OF PRIVATE LOBBYING TOO. UH, I IT'S, IT'S, UH, I THINK THE PUBLIC INTEREST IS GREATLY SERVED BY HAVING, UH, LEGISLATIVE CONSULTANTS ADVOCATE FOR PUBLIC INTEREST AND, AND GOVERNMENT ADVOCATE FOR THEIR CONSTITUENTS. SO I, I'VE JUST GIVEN YOU THREE ANSWERS, THREE EXAMPLES WHERE HE'S PROVIDED. THAT'S WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE BEFORE I COME TO A MEETING. RIGHT. CAUSE THEN HOW DO I KNOW? RIGHT. SO THAT'S JUST, JUST FYI FOR MR. DELAROSA. AND THEN I DO SEE THAT HE'S A PRIVATE, INDEPENDENT CONTRACTOR FROM NEW YORK. SO IS THAT JUST THE WAY HIS COMPANY'S FROM, OR IS HE ACTUALLY FROM TEXAS, AUSTIN? HE'S FROM AUSTIN. SO MERCURY CONSULTING, MAYBE FROM SOMEPLACE ELSE OR FROM NEW YORK EAST, HIS OFFICES ARE A BLOCK FROM THE STATE CAPITOL. OKAY. THAT'S WHAT I FIGURED, BECAUSE WHEN IT MAKES SENSE THAT I HAVE A NEW YORKER LAW LOBBYING FOR ME, CAN YOU HAVE A NEXT NEW YORKER [00:25:01] AS A CITY ATTORNEY? I DON'T KNOW WHAT I MET THE ADMIT THE GENTLEMEN, UH, MET HIM. I TALKED TO HIM AND I KNOW THAT HE'S DONE GOOD FOR SOMEBODY TALK. AND, UM, YOU KNOW, THE ONLY THING, YOU KNOW, LIKE I SAID, THE AMOUNT, BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, THEY TOLD HER THAT'S ALL, THAT'S ALL I WAS QUESTIONING ABOUT. SO MAYOR BRINGS UP A GOOD POINT ABOUT THEM OUT, RIGHT? SO WHAT'S THE, WHAT IS THE, WHAT IS, WHAT IS A PERCENT, WHAT IS AN I, IS IT, IS THERE A MEASURABLE AMOUNT OR PERCENTAGE THAT SHOULD BE PUT ASIDE FOR LOBBYISTS OF AN OPERATIONAL BUDGET? NOW YOU MIGHT HAVE SOME EXPERIENCE LIKE IN BROWNSVILLE, RIGHT? LIKE, SO THEY'RE A MUCH LARGER CITY, SO THEY MUCH, THEY NEED PROBABLY NEED A MUCH LARGER LOBBY. WE'LL PROBABLY HAVE SEVERAL, THEIR BILL WAS HIGHER. YEAH. THEY PROBABLY HAVE THREE OR FOUR W ANOTHER BILL FOR ONE, JUST ONE LOBBYIST WAS HIGHER. BUT, UM, IT, IT, IT IS NOT, IT IS NOT HIGH OR UNUSUALLY HIGH ACCESS TO A LEGISLATIVE CONSULTANT AT THAT LEVEL. $6,000 A MONTH IS NOT, IS THERE AT PAYSCALE, SOME WHO ARE CONTRACTING FOLLOWS THROUGH, OR THEY SIT THERE BASICALLY. UM, I I'M, I MEAN, WHAT'S YOUR PAIN, WHAT'S YOUR PAYING FOR WHEN YOU'RE PAYING FOR, WHEN YOU'RE PAYING THAT RETAINER IS TO HAVE THAT IMMEDIATE ACCESS TO SOMEONE. SO, SO WHEN YOU HAVE HUD OR WHEN YOU HAVE A GOVERNMENT OR STATE OR FEDERAL AGENCY KNOCKING ON YOUR DOOR, AND YOU'VE GOT A PROBLEM WHERE YOU NEED IMMEDIATELY NAGGED NEED ACCESS, OR YOU NEED, IT NEEDED IMMEDIATELY SOMEONE TO FACILITATE THOSE CONTACTS OR A MEET AND MEET NEED SOMEONE TO IMMEDIATELY SET UP THOSE MEETINGS AT THE HIGHEST LEVEL, YOU CAN DO THAT. RIGHT. SO, SO IT'S, IT'S KIND OF LIKE, YEAH, THERE MIGHT BE SOME MONTHS WHERE NOT MUCH IS GOING ON WHEN YOU NEED THEM, YOU NEED THEM AND THEIR WORK AND THEY'RE WORTH EVERY PENNY. SO KNOW THE MOTION. SO, SO I WOULD SAY THERE'S A 6,000, IS THAT THE RETAINER THAT THE $6,000? OKAY. CAUSE I WAS READING SOMETHING ABOUT A RE THE RETAINER ALSO IT'S JUST 6,000, BUT THERE'S ALSO A 500 EXPENSES FOR INCURRED EXPENSES FOR TRAVEL, I GUESS, OR 500 LIMIT, ANYTHING HIGHER THAN 500 WE WOULD HAVE TO GET IS THAT REIMBURSABLES FOR ACTUAL EXPENSES. SO WHAT WERE THE ACTUAL EXPENSES, I GUESS FOR LAST FISCAL YEAR AS THE QUESTION, AND MAYBE FINANCE WILL HAVE IT, OR, YEAH. WE'LL GET IT TO YOU. THAT QUESTION SHOULD HAVE BEEN POSED DAYS AGO. THAT'S WHAT I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY THAT, SO LET ME, UH, LET ME, UH, WHY WOULDN'T IT BE HERE AT, WHAT DO YOU WANT ME TO ASK 10 WEEKS, BUT I GOT TO PACKET ON FRIDAY. EXACTLY. EVERYBODY'S OFF SATURDAY, SUNDAY, BUT YOU DID SAY YOU'RE 30 AND YOU, THAT'S A GOOD TO HAVE QUESTIONS, RIGHT? NOT JUST GIVING MONEY AWAY. I HAVE TWO, WE'RE NOT GIVING MONEY AWAY. OKAY. WE'RE GETTING A SERVICE FOR SOMETHING WE'RE PAYING FOR. AND IF IT SEEMS TO BE WORKING IN OUR FAVOR, IT IS, WHAT'S THE PROBLEM WITH CONTINUING SOMETHING THAT FAVORS 72. AND, UM, WITH THAT, THE, UH, LET ME AT LEAST MAYOR YOU AND I HAVE HAD SOME CONVERSATIONS ABOUT ONE OF THE PORT AUTHORITIES AND WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT. THAT'S FUTURE LEGISLATION. SO YOU AND I HAVE HAD CONVERSATIONS ABOUT LEGISLATION IN THE FUTURE. AND I CAN TELL YOU THAT THOSE CONVERSATIONS WERE RECENTLY HAD IN THE LAST 30 DAYS IN THE LAST TWO WEEKS. AND I KNOW THAT MR. SALSI AND PARKER DISCUSSED THAT A WEEK AGO, MARK. SO THERE ARE THINGS GOING ON EVERY DAY. SO, UH, WE SAY WEATHER, AND I THINK I HEARD THE WORD IRRESPONSIBLE. I THINK IT IS IRRESPONSIBLE WHEN YOU CAN AFFORD IT, NOT TO PROTECT YOUR INTERESTS. I HAVE WORKED FOR CITY GOVERNMENTS FOR OVER 30 YEARS. IF YOU WANT TO GET THE STATE'S ATTENTION, THE COUNTY'S ATTENTION, YOU HAVE PROFESSIONALS. I MET HARLAN GINS LOBBYISTS IN 2017 AT THE, UH, HARLINGTON SAN BENITO. THE, AT THE CAPITOL WHEN CELESTE SANCHEZ WAS MAYOR, I MET THEIR LOBBYIST. I SAW THEM AGAIN IN 2019, I HAD A CONVERSATION WITH DAN BECAUSE FIRST TIME WE HAD OURS AT THAT TIME, THEIR LOBBYISTS MONTHLY FEE IS 10,000. THE PORTER BROWNSVILLE'S MUCH HIGHER. SO WHAT WE WERE GETTING, AND I THINK IT HAS BEEN VERY RESPONSIBLE THAT WE HAVE PROTECTED THE CITY'S INTEREST IN THAT TIME PERIOD. AND WE CONTINUE TO WORK TOWARD THAT. WE DON'T GET A LOT OF, UH, IT, THINGS MOVE VERY SLOWLY WHEN YOU'RE DEALING WITH LEGISLATION, BUT THERE'S ALWAYS ISSUES THAT CROP UP AT THE VARIOUS LEVELS OF GOVERNMENT. AND, UH, WE COULD DO WHAT BRONZEVILLE HAS. AND WE KNOW THE GENTLEMEN THAT IS THE LEGISLATIVE PERSON, AND WE KNOW THE SALARIES PAID, AND I DON'T THINK THEY'RE ANYWHERE NEAR. SO WHAT WE'VE GOT WITH PARKER, WE WERE ALSO LOOKING SEVERAL YEARS AGO WHEN SELESSA SANCHEZ WAS MAYOR, UM, THE COMPANY THAT USED TO BE EMPLOYEES FOR SOME STATE EMPLOYEES, THEY DON'T HAVE THE SAME CONNECTIONS [00:30:01] THAT A PERSON OF THIS CALIBER DOES. HE'S A LAWYER. FORMER STATE REP WAS A STATE REP IN THE STATE LEGISLATURE WHEN CENTER TO LOSE YOUR WAS A YOUNG STATE REP. THAT RELATIONSHIP GOES A LONG WAYS. SO, SO THEN HE, THAT THAT'S A RESUME, RIGHT? SO THAT ATTACHMENT OF HIS RESUME WOULD BE HELPFUL. SO AT THIS TIME, I, THAT ALL IN FOR NEW INFORMATION, FOR ME, IT DOESN'T ALLOW ME TO PROCESS THIS OVER THE WEEKEND. IT ALLOWS ME TO PROCESS IT RIGHT NOW. SO IF THAT, THAT FOR ME, IT'S STILL AN INSUFFICIENT INFORMATION. I KNOW THERE'S A MOTION ON THE TABLE. I WOULD MOTION TO TABLE. THAT'S JUST TABLE UNTIL I HAVE ALL THE INFORMATION, BECAUSE IT'S IRRESPONSIBLE FOR ME. I KNOW IT'S NOT IRRESPONSIBLE FOR THE CITY, BUT AT THE TIME IT'S, I DON'T HAVE ALL THE AMPUTATION WHEN YOU GOT THE AGENDA ON FRIDAY OR WHEN YOU DID HAVE MONDAY, ALL DAY TUESDAY, INSTEAD OF ASKING THOSE, THE QUESTION SHOULD HAVE ASKED, BUT THIS ONE, WE, ANOTHER THING I'M GOING TO MAKE IT WORK IN A 12 HOUR SHIFTS SAVING LIVES, OR EITHER PREPARE WHEN YOU GET HERE. OKAY. PREPARED WHEN YOU COME HERE. OKAY. WE ALL HAVE THE SAME SCHEDULE. UM, OKAY. MINING, UH, I KNOW I'VE ASKED YOU ABOUT THE PORTABLE, SOMEBODY TO NAVIGATION IN A PORT. I WASN'T SAYING WHICH THINGS. YES, SIR. I THINK WE'RE OUT OF LINE. I DON'T WANT TO SAY THAT, BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, SO FAR WE ARE LIKE, THERE'S A MOTION ON THE FLOOR AND A SECOND WE DISCUSSED WHAT THE ISSUE WAS. I THINK WE NEED TO VALIDATE. I KNOW I MENTIONED, BUT THERE WAS STILL A QUESTION THEY'RE STILL ASKING QUESTIONS, WHICH I'M STILL ASKING. OKAY. I KNOW THAT THINGS OUT THERE BEFORE THE, BEFORE YOU SHOOT IT DOESN'T MATTER. SO ALL I'M ASKING IS A TENSE, YOU KNOW, THAT, UH, ALL THE, THAT THE YOU'VE ASKED, HAVE YOU TOLD US ABOUT THE PARKER? WHAT HAVE WE BEEN DOING? AND, UM, I KNOW THAT THE PORT IS VERY, VERY IMPORTANT TO ME BECAUSE, UH, I TOLD YOU WHAT THE, WHAT THE RUMOR WAS, WHAT THEY WANTED TO DO, WAS THAT OKAY? IT'S IMPORTANT. AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE LOOKING AT EXACTLY. AND IF HE IS AN INSTRUMENT FOR THAT FOR US, THEN, YOU KNOW, MY UNDERSTANDING IS, LIKE I SAID, I'LL SUPPORT IT, BUT, UH, IT'S GOTTA HAVE A LOT OF, YOU KNOW, BEHIND WHAT OUR INTERESTS, YOU KNOW, FOR, FOR SOMEBODY TO US. AND LIKE I SAID, UH, HE'S, UH, HE'S DONE A COUPLE OF GOOD THINGS THAT, UH, I'M AWARE OF. AND, UM, SO HOPEFULLY SINCE YOU DIDN'T BRING THAT, UH, SITUATION TO ME BEFORE. OKAY. BECAUSE WHEN I ASKED YOU ALL I CAN SAY IS, TELL ME, TALK TO ME, TALK TO ME EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE, YOU LET ME KNOW THAT THEY, THIS IS GOING ON AND WITH, UH, WITH, UH, YOU KNOW, SOME PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, SO LIKE A COMMISSIONER SAID, I DIDN'T KNOW. I DIDN'T KNOW THAT HE WAS, UH, INVOLVED IN THIS. SO, WHICH IS GOOD. SO WITH THAT, UH, I KNOW, UM, I WOULDN'T PUSH FORWARD. LIKE YOU SAID, UH, I HAVE, UH, A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER GARCIA TO APPROVE THIS. AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WILL BE A FRANCO ALL IN FAVOR. IT GOT, SO WE GOT, OKAY. I GOT ONE DAY IN FOUR YEARS, MOTION PASSES. I REALLY HOPE YOU BRING US SOME INFORMATION, SIR. OKAY. AND JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, WE WORK ON LOTS OF DIFFERENT ITEMS. DID IT DAY IN, DAY OUT, SOME OF IT COMES TO FRUITION. SOME OF IT DOES NOT. UM, AND I HEAR YOU MIRROR. I ALSO HEAR THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS. SO WHEN I HAVE SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE EXPLAINED TO THE ENTIRE BODY, I DO THAT. BUT SOMETIMES I GET MYSELF IN TROUBLE WHEN I HAVE ONE CONVERSATION WITH ONE AND NOT WITH OTHERS. AND, AND THEREFORE, UH, UNLESS I, UNLESS I DETERMINED THAT I NEED TO SHARE IT AT THAT TIME, BECAUSE I'VE GOT SOMETHING THAT IS WORTH DISCUSSING, BUT I NEVER STOPPED WORKING. SO FOR ME TO DETERMINE ALL I'M ASKING IS, IS THIS COMMISSIONED BY ME THE INFORMATION? AND WE WILL HIDE MY IT'S HAPPENED BEFORE. RIGHT? SO WITH SOME ORDINANCES THAT WERE CHANGED. SO YES, I HEAR YOU TOO. AND I KNOW, I KNOW WHAT THE PARKER'S DONE SOMEWHAT, BUT OKAY. THE LOBBYIST, IT'S NOT SOMETHING THEY CAN JUST PRESENT, BRO. LIKE YOU HAVE TO WAIT AND YOU'LL SEE THROUGHOUT THIS ENTIRE YEAR AT FIRST I THOUGHT THE MONEY WAS RIDICULOUS. I'LL BE WITH YOU. I DIDN'T SEE WHAT SAN BENITO COULD BENEFIT OUT OF IT. AND THEN LITTLE BY LITTLE AS THE ISSUES WERE COMING UP AND WE HAD THAT INSIDE PERSON THAT WAS ABLE TO HELP US GET THROUGH THOSE PROBLEMS. IT'S JUST EVENT BY EVENT. AS THINGS COME UP IS HOW YOU'RE ABLE TO SEE WHAT THE BENEFIT IS TO THE CITY. AND AS I SAID, YOU ARE NEW, OR I KNOW YOU HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO EXPERIENCE THIS EVENT, BUT I UNDERSTAND IT DOES SOUND CRAZY THAT WE'RE PAYING ALL THIS AND YOU'RE NOT SEEING A WHOLE LIST OF THINGS, BUT IT IS ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT YOU HAVE TO WAIT AND SEE EVENT BY EVENT, HOW IT'S GOING TO BENEFIT [00:35:01] US. OKAY. [9. Discussion and possible action on approving employee pay increases for Fiscal Year 2021-2022 effective pay period starting November 8, 2021.] YOU EDIT A NUMBER NINE DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO APPROVE EMPLOYEE INCREASE, UH, FISCAL YEAR 2021 DASH 2022 EVICTED A PAY PERIOD STARTING NOVEMBER 8TH, 2021. AND WE GET THE HUMAN RESOURCE, UH, QUESADILLA NEEDS PRESENTED THE CENTER. HI, GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COMMISSIONERS FOR THE RECORD. MY NAME IS GRACIE ALANIS AND I SERVE AS THE HUMAN RESOURCES DIRECTOR FOR THE CITY OF SAN BENITO MAYOR AND COMMISSIONERS ITEM NUMBER NINE IS DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON IMPROVING THE PAY INCREASES FOR FISCAL YEAR 2122 EFFECTIVE PAY PERIOD BEGINNING NOVEMBER THE EIGHTH, 2021 TO BE PAID ON NOVEMBER 24TH, 2021. UH, AS YOU KNOW, AN INCREASE OF UP TO 3% HAS BEEN INCLUDED IN THE APPROVED BUDGET FOR 2122. AND AS DISCUSSED PREVIOUSLY DURING THE BUDGET WORKSHOPS, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT EMPLOYEES HAVE RECEIVED 33% INCREASE AS REQUIRED BY THE COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENT EFFECTIVE OCTOBER 1ST, 2021. I'M AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. THANK YOU, MICHELLE. NICE. UM, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S CONSISTENT EVERY YEAR, RIGHT? ABOUT AN ROUGH 3% INCREASE FROM I'VE SEEN FROM PREVIOUS MEETINGS. YEAH. I KNOW IN PREVIOUS, IN A PREVIOUS MEETING WE DISCUSSED THAT SOME OF THE BASE PAY WAS INCREASED TO 10 TO $10. YES. AND THAT WAS A, THAT WAS A PERSON, UH, CITY MANAGEMENT DECISION, RIGHT? YES. OKAY. WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THAT AND THIS, THIS IS THE SALARY ADJUSTMENT THAT IS, IS APPROVED A YEARLY ON, ON THE BUDGET ANNUALLY THREE. SO SAY MAGIC CAN MAKE ADJUSTMENTS AS SEES FIT, BUT ANNUALLY 3% IS GOING TO BE UP FOR AGENDA MOST LIKELY EVERY YEAR. RIGHT? AND THE REASON WE RAISED IT TO THE $10 FOR THE SALARY ADJUSTMENTS WAS BECAUSE WE WERE BRINGING IN EMPLOYEES AT 8 88, AN HOUR AND 8 88 IN OURS WAS NOT STARBUCKS, I THINK IS NOW GOING TO START THERE. 17, 17 CHIPOTLE, RIGHT? HEB WALMART, 15, 17. WE CAN'T KEEP GOOD EMPLOYEES. I TALKED TO A GROUP LIKE FIVE EMPLOYEES LEFT TO ANOTHER AREA CAUSE THEY WERE JUST PAYING THEM A BETTER THERE. AND THEY'RE GIVING, IS THERE OPPORTUNITY FOR BUDGET PERFORMANCE INCREASES BEYOND, BEYOND THIS? LIKE IS THERE A SIX WEEK OR MEAN SIX MONTH BUDGET PERFORMANCE INCREASE FOR AN EMPLOYEE? UM, WHAT WAS, UM, THEY WERE ONLY BUDGETED UP TO THE 3%, SO THAT'S IT. NO PERFORMANCE REVIEWS FOR INCREASES. AND I MEAN, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN LOOK OUT FOR NEXT YEAR, BUT FOR THIS YEAR WITH THE CELANESE, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT I KNOW YOU'VE BEEN WITH SAN BENITO BEFORE? RIGHT. HAVE YOU BEEN WITH OTHER, UM, CITIES, MUNICIPALITIES? YES. SO IS THAT SOMETHING THAT IS, IS THAT SOMETHING COMMON, LIKE A PERFORMANCE REVIEWS? I KNOW. NO AT THE OTHER PREVIOUS A CITY THAT I WAS WITH, NO, THEY DIDN'T HAVE PERFORMANCE. SO I WAS TALKING TO SOME GENTLEMEN THAT LEFT TO THE WATERWORKS, JUST HAPPENED TO RUN INTO THEM AND THEY HAVE PERFORMANCE REVIEWS, SIX MONTHS IN AND THEY GIVE HIM, THEY GIVE HIM ANOTHER RACE. SO JUST LEAVING HERE AND GOING OVER THERE, THAT $5 MORE IN THEIR POCKET. AND THEN WITHIN SIX MONTHS I HAD ANOTHER DOLLAR OR TWO IN THEIR POCKET. SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE. I'M NOT SURE HOW THE COMMISSION FEELS, BUT YEAH, 8 88, WHATEVER. IT WAS EIGHT 50. I SAW THE LAST TIME A COMPENSATION REVIEW PLAN IS SOMETHING THAT WE CAN LOOK AT. I KNOW IT WAS DISCUSSED BEFORE, BUT NEVER DONE. I KNOW 10 IS GOOD. NOW WE'RE AT A 3% INCREASE. YOU SAY THE BUDGET CAN SUSTAIN IT. HOW MUCH CAN THE BUDGET SUSTAIN? SO SHOULD WE HAVE A WORKSHOP ON SOMETHING LIKE THAT ON COMPENSATION, A COMPENSATION REVIEW PLAN WORKSHOP THAT MIGHT BE NECESSARY SO WE CAN STOP TRAINING EMPLOYEES AND THEY LEAVE US. I GUESS WE JUST TALKED, WE JUST GAVE AWAY 75. YOU GAVE AN EXAMPLE OF A, AND IF I MAY, UH, COMMISSIONER GALVAN, MAY YOU GIVE AN EXAMPLE, WHICH BRINGS THE THOUGHT OF, UM, YOU MENTIONED WATERWORKS. SO I BELIEVE, UH, IF IT'S HARLINGTON, THEY OPERATE THEIR WATERWORKS SEPARATE FROM THE CITY GENERAL FUND. CORRECT. SO I GUESS MAYBE THEY HAVE A DIFFERENT, UH, WAY OF COMPENSATING, UM, MERIT COMPENSATION AND THINGS LIKE THAT. BUT, AND THAT'S AN AREA THAT WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT, UH, IN THE PAST. SO YEAH, MAYBE IT'S SOMETHING TO START LOOKING AT, BUT, UH, OF COURSE, YEAH. AND THE COMMISSIONERS MS. ALANIS JUST RETURNED AFTER TWO YEARS OF BEING GONE, [00:40:01] WE HAVE RAISED ALL THE MINIMUMS TO ABOVE 10. CERTAIN FOLKS HAVE, DEPENDING ON SOME OF OUR EMPLOYEES, ESPECIALLY IN PUBLIC WORKS THAT NOW HAVE A COMMERCIAL DRIVER'S LICENSES, HEAVY EQUIPMENT HAVE GONE, HAVE ALSO BEEN ADJUSTED. UH, THE POLICE DEPARTMENTS, UH, MANAGES NOW THE ANIMAL CONTROL THAT ENTRY LEVEL HAS BEEN ALSO INCREASED. UH, IT WASN'T THE TOP TIER EMPLOYEES. IT WAS MORE OF THE BOTTOM TIER, BUT HERE'S THE PROBLEM WITH THOSE. A LOT OF THE VOLUNTEERS, THEY GOT TO MAKE CANDLES CERTIFICATIONS, THEY GOT TO PASS TESTS. THEY GOT, UH, UH, DAILY ACTUALLY SOMETIMES HAVE TO UPGRADE THOSE LICENSES. SO WE NOW HOLD THEM AND WE DID IN THE FIVE IN THE LAST FIVE YEARS, WE HAVE SCREENED EVERY EMPLOYEE WE'VE MOVED THEM AROUND BASED ON WHAT CERTIFICATIONS THEY'VE HAD. WE, UH, WE CERTAINLY HAVE MADE SOME ADJUSTMENTS SINCE, UH, BEFORE MS. CAME ON BOARD. AND SINCE SHE'S COME ON BOARD, UH, FOR EXAMPLE, THERE ARE, THERE'S JUST 3% AND CHIEF BADASS, SOMEWHERE IN THE ROOM. UH, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THE POLICE DISPATCHERS, THEY'RE BEING ADJUSTED TO $13 AN HOUR, UH, UH, COME ON FOR TELL THEM EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE DOING AND FOR THE DISPATCHERS THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE HERE, WE WERE KEVIN I'M OUT AT 13, BUT WE WERE LOSING SOME TO A DIFFERENT PLACES. THEY WERE LEAVING. UH, SO WE'RE MOVING THEM UP TO $14 AN HOUR. SO THAT'S WHERE THEY'LL CAP OFF FLAT. NOW SHE PERTINENT TO THE DISCUSSION THAT WE NEED TO HAVE AND THE BUDGET WORKSHOPS, BECAUSE THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I'VE BEEN TRYING TO PUSH MEN AND TEND TO INCREASE TIME FOR THAT PERIOD OF TIME. YES. UH, TO INCREASE THE, THE EMPLOYEE TIME BECAUSE THEY $8, YOU CAN EVEN TAKE YOU HOME. SO WE HAVE MADE CERTAIN ADJUSTMENTS WITHIN, WE HAVE THE BUDGETS, WELL, NOT A TIERED, A TIERED INCREASE BECAUSE 3% FOR SOMEONE MAKING $10 AN HOUR VERSUS $60 AN HOUR, IT'S IT? THIS IS BASED OFF OF GROSS TAKE HOME PAY, RIGHT? SO THIS IS GOING TO BE MUCH LARGER PAY INCREASE FOR SOMEONE THAT HAS THAT MUCH HIGHER SALARY VERSUS SOMEONE THAT'S AT $22,000. IT DOESN'T. SO, SO IS THERE A POSSIBILITY TO, TO RELOOK AT THIS AND DO A STRUCTURED, OKAY, YOU'RE ABOVE 75 K ONE AND A HALF PERCENT OR 2% VERSUS 3% BECAUSE THAT'S GOING TO BE, THAT COULD LOOK, YOU KNOW, YOU DO THE MATH THAT CAN LOOK MUCH BIGGER THAN A 10 CENTS. RIGHT? RIGHT. SO, AND I'VE SEEN THAT BEFORE WHERE THEY HAD DONE STRUCTURED PAY INCREASES BASED ON SALARIES. AND WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THAT. I'M NOT SURE WHAT WE CAN DISCUSS. WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT. I THINK LOOKING AT ALL THAT, I THINK WE, I WOULD MOVE TO TABLE IT SO THAT WE CAN LOOK AT THAT I'M ALL FOR PAY RAISES, BUT I WANT TO MAYBE HAVE IT STRUCTURED. IS THIS THE BUDGET FOR, WE'RE NOT HERE TO TAKE ALL THIS, I'M SORRY, GRACIE. BUT THE ONLY PEOPLE THAT DO MAKE ABOVE 50, $60,000 IS LAW ENFORCEMENT AND FIRE DEPARTMENT. AM I CORRECT? VERY FEW DIRECTORS, RIGHT? DIDN'T IT. DIDN'T YOU GUYS PROVIDE EVERYBODY WITH A LIST OF WHO MAKES, HOW MUCH WE GAVE YOU THE FULL BUDGET DETAILS DURING THE BUDGET PROCESS. IT IS NOT STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION THAT THIS ITEM BE TABLE. THE DATES ARE PICKED. WHEN I FIRST CAME ON BOARD, WE WERE DOING A JANUARY ONE EARLY. IT WAS MOVED TO INCORPORATE CHRISTMAS. SO WE MOVED IT TO EARLY DECEMBER, ABOUT MID DECEMBER. AND ABOUT THREE YEARS AGO, WE MOVED IT. SO IN MY SIX YEARS HERE, WE'VE DONE IT IN JANUARY WILL BE MY SIXTH YEAR ANNIVERSARY. UH, WE STARTED DOING IT AT, UH, THE MID NOVEMBER TO HIT HIM AROUND THANKSGIVING. SO IN OTHER WORDS, UH, THIS WAS ALREADY BUDGET FROM OCTOBER ONE. WE LOOK AT THOSE NUMBERS, WE LOSE EMPLOYEES. UH, WE'VE ALSO, UH, YOU KNOW, IF YOU LOOK, HOW MANY DEPARTMENT HEADS ARE STILL HERE FROM THE TIME WE CAME, BUT IT STARTED TWO WEEKS BEFORE I DID. AND JERRY SALAZAR WAS HERE FOR, BUT EVERY OTHER DEPARTMENT DIRECTOR IS, UH, YOU KNOW WHAT WE BROUGHT IN THE POLICE CHIEF, THE FIRE CHIEF, ONE MANAGES 60, UH, CORRECTION. THE POLICE DEPARTMENT HAS ABOUT 40 TO 44 POLICE OFFICERS. FIRE DEPARTMENT HAS 24. UH, WE TALKED ABOUT THEIR EXPERIENCE OR EDUCATION. SO THOSE TEARS THAT HAVE BEEN ADJUSTED HAVE BEEN, AND THOSE EXPECTATIONS HAVE BEEN RAISED NOT ONLY THROUGH JOB DESCRIPTIONS, BUT ALSO EXPECTATIONS. AND, UH, SO THEREFORE WE'VE STARTED LOOKING AT ALL OF THOSE. WE KNOW WHAT WE'VE GOT WITH THE COLLECTIVE BARGAIN AGREEMENT. WE KNOW WE'VE GOTTEN OUT MEET AND CONFER WITH THE FARTHER APARTMENT, BUT ALL THE OTHERS, WE WERE NOT LOOKING. AND OVER THE LAST, THIS IS THE THIRD BUDGET CYCLE THAT WE STARTED LOOKING AT EMPLOYEES. REMEMBER THREE YEARS, THREE SUMMERS AGO. UH, WE STARTED LOOKING AT THE WATER AND SEWER EMPLOYEES. THOSE CERTIFICATIONS WE'VE BEEN BUMPING UP EVERY YEAR. WE STARTED, UH, LOOKING AT THE COMMERCIAL DRIVER'S LICENSES [00:45:01] COVID-19 AND HOW WE'VE DEALT WITH THAT. AND HAVING EMPLOYEES COME IN AND NOW WE'VE CROSS-TRAINED. BUT AGAIN, IT IS NOT STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION THAT THIS MATTER BE TABLED IT'S 3%. IT WAS BUDGETED. SO YOU WANT TO GO THROUGH A, SO FOR EXAMPLE, A 3% OF 70,000 WOULD BE $2,100, 3% FOR SOMEONE THAT MAKES 28,000 WOULD BE $840. AND YOU SEE THE DISCREPANCY. SO THAT, THAT, THAT PERSON ON THE LOWER TIER FEELS LIKE THEY'LL NEVER GET THERE. RIGHT? SO THAT'S WHY I ASKED THE PREVIOUS MEETING. WHAT IS THE OVERHEAD ON AN ADMINISTRATIVE PAY THAT KEEPS GOING UP AND UP AND UP. BUT WHAT ABOUT THE REST? THOSE ARE THE GRINDERS. I'M NOT SAYING THAT THE TOP ONES AREN'T GRINDING, BUT THOSE ARE THE ONES WHO HAVE CHANGED THEIR BOOTS EVERY MONTH, BECAUSE THEY'RE WEARING OUT THEIR SOULS VERSUS PEOPLE IN THE DESKTOPS. THERE'S ONLY THREE DIRECTORS THAT, THAT FIT THAT TIER PUBLIC WORKS, FIRE CHIEF AND POLICE CHIEF. AND WE'VE ALREADY DISCUSSED THAT. SO, SO IS, IS THERE, IS THE CITY STAFF MANAGEMENT ALLOWED TO GIVE INCREASES AT WILL BASED ON HIS DISCRETION? NO, THE ANSWER IS YES. YOU SHOULD DIRECT THOSE QUESTIONS TO ME, COMMISSIONER. OKAY. SO MS. ELLEN NEEDS, YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND HAVE A SEAT. THANK YOU. OKAY. ANY QUESTIONS SHOULD BE DIRECTED TO ME WHEN IT COMES TO EXACTLY. WHAT'S BUDGETED. YOU, YOU HAVE THAT RIGHT. IF I HAVE TO MAKE SALARY ADJUSTMENTS BASED ON KEEPING EMPLOYEES BASED ON EDUCATION AND CERTIFICATION POSITIONS. AND LIKE I JUST SAID, WE STATED, WE STAYED AT, WE DISCUSSED POLICE, CHIEF FIRE, CHIEF PUBLIC WORKS. THOSE ARE THE ONLY THREE THAT END THAT HIGHER TIER BESIDES MR. BELL AND I, AND THOSE ARE RESOLVED SEPARATELY. YES. MOTION TO THE TABLE. THEN I'M NOT ASKING FOR AN INCREASE. UH, I KNOW THEY SAID IT'S BEEN BUDGETED FOR, THEY HAVE A QUESTION. YOU DID MENTION THE POLICE DEPARTMENT EMPLOYEES HAVE RECEIVED AT 20% INCREASE. I WAS MAKING A MOTION. YOU KNOW WHAT? YOU DON'T GIVE ANYBODY ELSE A CHANCE. I WAS MAKING A MOTION. OKAY. SO HOLD ON, HOLD ON MY EMOTION. AND YOU CAN DISCUSS IF YOU LIKE, BECAUSE THAT'S THE WAY IT WORKS. I'LL MAKE A MOTION YOU CAN DISCUSS. SO I MADE A MOTION TO TABLE AND IF YOU HAVE A DISCUSSION, GO AHEAD. THE FLOOR. OKAY. SO MY QUESTION TO, UH, MISS ELLA NIECES, YOU DID MENTION THAT POLICE DEPARTMENT EMPLOYEES HAVE RECEIVED A 3% INCREASE, OF COURSE, BASED ON THEIR COLLECTIVE COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENT. UM, SO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS YOU'RE RECOMMENDING THE CITY ADMINISTRATION, UH, IS RECOMMENDING INCREASE FOR, UH, OTHER THAN, UH, POLICE DEPARTMENT EMPLOYEES FOR CLARIFICATION. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. BUT I THINK, UH, GO AHEAD. I'LL LET YOU GO. YOU KNOW, MOVING FORWARD COMMISSION IS WHERE THE QUESTION AGAIN, RATHER ASK THE QUESTIONS IN THE PUBLIC EYE, NOT BEHIND CLOSED DOORS CONDITIONER. YOU HAD THE CHANCE YOU HAD. NOW YOU JUST ASK QUESTIONS, BUT NO ANSWERS HAVE ACTUALLY COME ABOUT THEM. IT'S JUST TALKING TO QUESTIONS. I GET A ONE PAGE DOCUMENT PROPOSED. NO, SIR. NO, SIR. WE HAVE WORKSHOPS IN JULY OF OTHER TIMES. I THINK I, YOU HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO ASK THESE QUESTIONS WHEN WE WERE BUDGETED FOR IN THE SUMMER. PLENTY OF TIMES IT DOES COME UP. YOU NEVER ASKED THE QUESTION I ASKED MOVING FORWARD. IS THIS SOMETHING THAT WE'VE DISCUSSED? YOU KNOW WHAT? I'M NOT GOING TO HOLD BACK THE, THE EMPLOYEES RACE BECAUSE YOU CAN'T GET, SEEM TO GET YOUR ANSWER STRAIGHT. I'LL MAKE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL. OKAY. LET'S MOVE FORWARD THOUGH. I THINK WE HAD THE FIRST ONE. SO YES, I HAD A MOTION TO TABLE. UM, YOU HAD A MOTION TO SEE IF WE CAN REEVALUATE THE RACE, THE PAY INCREASE. OKAY. MORE OF A TIER STRUCTURED APPROACH COMMISSIONERS. YEAH. OKAY. WE'LL HAVE A MOTION TO TABLE ANY SECOND. OKAY. NOW WE HAVE A MOTION TO THE WAY IT IS TO WITH A 3% ON STARTING, UH, FOR NOVEMBER STARTING NOVEMBER 8TH. OKAY. SO WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER. WE BE FRANCO SECOND BY COMMISSIONER GARCIA. ALL IN FAVOR. AYE. ANY NAYS, ONE NAME, MOTION PASSES. JUST FOR CLARIFICATION MIRROR. COULD YOU REPEAT THE I'S AND NAYS? CAUSE WE'VE HAD ISSUES BEFORE WAS FOUR EYES WHEN THEY, AND FOR THE RECORD, WHO WAS THE NAME? WINNING? YES. BUT WHERE DID IT GO? LIKE I SAID, I VOTE IN A, JUST A CLARIFICATION CAUSE LAST YEAR, UH, LAVONNE. YES. OKAY. DID YOU GET THAT? I CAN GIVE YOU OTHER [00:50:01] CLARIFICATION. I VOTED NATE, NOT AGAINST RAISES, BUT FOR A TIERED. OKAY. KNOCK IT OFF. PICK AND CHOOSE WHAT YOU WANT. OKAY. I REMEMBER 10 PUBLIC HEARING [10. Public Hearing: To solicit input regarding the creation of a Tax Increment Reinvestment Zone (TIRZ) Number 2 with boundaries to include the following areas: a. More or less 115 acres making up the RGV Epicenter area, located adjacent to FM509, near the intersection of FM 509 and Shafer Road, and b. Public rights of ways and easements adjacent to the RGV Epicenter. A) Open Public Hearing B) Close Public Hearing] THIS ALLEGIANCE TO SOLICIT THE INPUT REGARDING THE CREATION OF A TEXTING, UH, INCREMENT, UH, REINVESTMENT ZONE WITH HIS HERS. NUMBER TWO, WITH BOUNDARIES TO INCLUDE THE FOLLOWING AREAS MORE OR LESS, 115 ACRES MAKING UP THE RGV EPICENTER AREA LOCATED ADJACENT TO 5 0 9 FM PAVO NINE NEAR THE INTERSECTION OF 509 AND SCHAEFER ROAD AND B PUBLIC RIGHTS RIGHT AWAY AND EASTMAN JUST INTO RGB EPICENTER. AND, UH, WE HAVE A MARIN COMMISSIONER. THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING. SO I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER IN A SECOND HERE SO WE CAN TAKE ANY COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC UP ON THE SCREEN BEHIND YOU, OR EVEN MAYBE IN FRONT OF YOU. IT'S NOT THERE, BUT BEHIND YOU, THE PUBLIC SHOULD BE ABLE TO SEE THAT WE PUT THE DIAGRAM OF THE RGV EPICENTER. IT'S OUTLINED IN RED IS ACTUALLY A MARKED RGB EPICENTER ON THE NORTH SIDE OF SHAFFER ROAD IN THE SOUTH SIDE OF SCHAEFER ROAD ON THE WEST SIDE OF FM 5 0 9, ALSO KNOWN AS PUZZLED RAIL HIGHWAY OR HELEN MOORE ROAD MERIT THIS TIME. UM, YOU CAN, YES. UM, THE TIME IS 6 21 AND WE'RE OPEN PUBLIC HEARING FOR ANYBODY. YES. COME ON OVER, SIT YOUR NAME PLEASE. UH, FROM SAN BENITO. UM, SO THE LAST TIME I CAME WAS I HAD A CONCERN ABOUT THE FUNDING FOR THIS. AND, UH, MY MAIN CONCERN WAS THAT EVEN THOUGH IT WAS STATED THAT WOULDN'T BE FRONTING THE COST. MY WORRY WAS THAT SAN BENITO AND THEIR CITIZENS, ITS CITIZENS WOULD BE PAYING ON THE BACK HALF. AND WITH THESE TAX INCREMENT REINVESTMENT ZONES, THAT'S ESSENTIALLY WHAT IT IS. IT'S A TAX BREAK FOR. I FORGOT THE NAME OF THE COMPANY, BUT, UM, WHOEVER'S DEVELOPING RGV EPI CENTER AND, UH, THAT'S NOT GOOD. YOU KNOW, THE, THE, THE IDEA IS THAT WE HAVE THIS PROPERTY AND, UH, FROM THE SALES REVENUE AND TAXES, IT GOES TO THE CITY RIGHT INTO OUR GENERAL FUND. AND WE CAN DO MORE THINGS WITH THAT. UM, BUT IF WE'RE GIVING THEM A TAX BREAKS WITH THIS REINVESTMENT ZONE, THAT'S MONEY, THAT'S NOT GOING INTO THE CITY, THAT'S MONEY, THAT'S STAYING IN THAT AREA. UM, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE NO TAX INCREMENT REINVESTMENT ZONE AND ANY, UH, TAXES THAT ARE COLLECTED, GO TO OUR GENERAL FUND TO THE BENEFIT OF ALL OF SAN BENITO. SO I REALLY DIDN'T HAVE A QUESTION. I JUST WANTED TO STATE MY CONCERN. AND THAT'S MY CONCERN. THANK YOU. YEAH, THE QUESTIONS. NOPE. THEN THE TIME IS 6 23 AND IT'S A CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING. MR. ROSA, ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME BEFORE, UH, ON ITEM NUMBER 10 AS YOU'LL NOTICE, UH, THE PUBLIC HEARING THAT WE THAT WAS PUBLISHED IN, UH, WHAT'S IN YOUR PACKET IS THE NOTICE THAT WAS PRINTED IN THE, UH, SEMITONE NEWS. UM, THE CITY'S NEWSPAPER, UH, NOT ONLY WAS THE 115 ACRES INCLUDED IN THIS TERM, NUMBER TWO, PROPOSED TERMS, NUMBER TWO, BUT ALSO ALL PUBLIC RIGHT-AWAY AND EASTMAN'S ADJACENT TO THE RGB EPICENTER. IT'S ALWAYS BEEN MY BELIEF THAT, UH, ANY IMPROVEMENTS OR ANY BENEFITS THAT WOULD BE MADE TO SCHAEFER ROAD BECAUSE SHAFFER ROAD DOES NOT BELONG TO THE DEVELOPER NOR THE 115 ACRES DO NOT BELONG TO THE CITY THAT'S PRIVATE LAND. SO, BUT ANYTHING IS GENERATED FROM THAT LAND THAT CURRENTLY SAYS AGRICULTURE. YOU CAN CERTAINLY, UH, UH, LOOK AT ONE OF THE, UH, EXHIBITS WHEN WE GET TO THE ORDINANCE THAT SHOWS HOW MUCH THE VALUE IS AND WHAT TO GET IN AGRICULTURE. OKAY. SO THE INVESTMENT, UH, CERTAINLY WILL OUTWEIGH WHATEVER, UH, THE, THE INCENTIVES MAY BE, BUT I BELIEVE THAT YOU'RE GOING TO WANT TO SEE IMPROVEMENTS TO IT FROM 5 0 9 SCHAEFER ROAD, POSSIBLY HOW WAY YOU BELIEVE THAT YOU'RE GOING TO WANT TO SEE IMPROVEMENTS TO IT FROM 5 0 9 SHAFFER ROAD, POSSIBLY HIGHWAY 77, UH, WAYLON ROAD, UH, THAT WOULD BENEFIT THE RESIDENTS THAT LIVE IN A WHITE WING PEACOCK MOCKINGBIRD PENTEL, [00:55:01] UH, AND ALDEN IT'S JUST A SIDE STREET. SO I THINK THAT THOSE, UH, FOUR STREETS, OH, AND WAYLON ALSO HAS RESIDENTS. SO 1, 2, 3 PLUS FIVE STREETS FOR CERTAINLY BENEFIT BY HAVING IMPROVEMENTS MADE TO THEIR ROADWAYS INFRASTRUCTURE, UH, AS PART OF THE RGV. SO IT IS OUR INTENT THAT BECAUSE THE DEVELOPER WOULD ALSO LIKE TO HAVE A, SOMETHING THAT GIVES CURB APPEAL TO HIS DEVELOPMENT AND DOESN'T WANT TO BE NEXT DOOR, UH, TO SOMETHING THAT WON'T BENEFIT. AND WE CERTAINLY DON'T WANT TO DEVELOPMENT THAT IT'S GOING TO AFFECT NEGATIVELY IMPACT THE RESIDENTS THERE. SO THEREFORE, IF WE CAN CERTAINLY IMPROVE THAT INFRASTRUCTURE THAT'S THERE AND WHAT'S THE INFRASTRUCTURE, IT COULD BE STRONGWATER CAN BE CURVES, GUTTER, ROADWAYS, AND MAY OR MAY NOT BE WATER AND SEWER. SO, BUT ALL OF THOSE THINGS ARE PART OF THE OVERALL PLANTS. WHEN WE, AS WE CONTINUE MOVING FORWARD, THIS IS VERY EARLY STAGE WHEN WE, WHEN WE MOVE ON. BUT, UH, WHICH IS WHY IN THE PUBLIC YOU'LL NOTICE, YOU'LL SEE, IN B THIS IS PUBLIC RIGHT-AWAY, CINDY'S BEEN SAID JASON TO THE RGB EPICENTER. OKAY. SO, UH, WE LOOKED AT THIS COMPREHENSIVELY, IT'S ONLY COMMON MAYOR, UH, THAT WAS FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS PUBLIC. SO UNLESS THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE ELECTED BODY ON THIS MATTER, THIS IS THE, WHAT WAS PUBLISHED. SO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS THE REVENUE THAT THE REVENUE THAT GETS PUT INTO THE ZONE WILL ONLY COME FROM THE BLUE AREA, BUT WE'RE ABLE TO USE THAT MONEY FOR WHAT, WHAT IS THE RADIUS? WHAT IS IT? WHAT IS ADJACENT ROADS? IS, IS IT THE FIVE YOU STATED, OR IS THERE A CERTAIN RADIUS? WE CAN GO OUT MARK. OKAY. YEAH. THAT'S THE AREA WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PUBLIC RIGHTS AWAY THAT ARE IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO THE BLUE AREA. SO IT WOULD BE THE, THE, THE ROADS THAT BORDER TH THE PUBLIC RIGHT. OF WAYS THAT BORDER THE BLUE DESIGNATED AREA, WHICH HAS NOT PHARMA SO-SO WAYLON WOULD NOT BE INCLUDED BECAUSE IT ONLY SEE IT TOUCHING SHAFFER AND 5 0 9, WHICH WOULD BE THE, THE RIGHT OF WAY. SO HOW FAR OFF CAN WE GO FROM, THIS IS FUN. I THINK I REMEMBER THAT, UH, YOU WOULD CROSS ACROSS BIBLE NINE, ONLY A CERTAIN, LIKE SO MANY, LIKE A HUNDRED FEET OR, OR SO ON TO GET THAT INFORMATION OR THE, UH, THOSE, UH, EMPTY LINE THAT SARAH IN THE CORNER ONE NIGHT, PROBABLY NINE YOUR FURNITURE, RIGHT? I MEAN, I WAS AREAS THAT ARE ADJACENT TO THE AREA AND I, I THINK THERE'S A, WE'VE GOT 3 83 80 AGREEMENTS IN THE, IN THE WORKS FOR, UH, INFRASTRUCTURE ISSUES AS WELL, BECAUSE THE ADJACENT WOULD BE RIGHT NEXT TO IT. RIGHT. SO WE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO USE IT IN THE SUBDIVISION. THAT'S JUST WHAT I REMEMBER FROM GEOMETRY, BUT IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME MAPPED WITHIN THE SUBDIVISION, BUT NOT WITHIN THAT, THE BUSINESS THAT'S CREATED INSIDE OF WHERE THE BLUE IS. THAT'S WHAT THE CAUSE. WHAT I JUST HEARD IS THAT WE COULD HELP THAT'S WHAT IT'S GOING TO HELP, UH, THE, UH, SOME OF THOSE ROADS, BUT THAT WAS, THAT WAS FALSE THEN. SO WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO, WELL, FOR EXAMPLE, SCHAEFER ROAD, HE'S PROPOSING PUTTING A BOULEVARD, MAKING WATER, PUTTING SOME TYPE OF AN ENTRY I'LL PROBABLY NEED, UH, IMPROVE THAT LIGHT SYSTEM. THAT'S THERE. UH, AS YOU, UH, GO EASTBOUND TO, UH, WHEN YOU EXIT THAT AREA, UH, PART OF THE DISCUSSIONS HAVE ALSO BEEN THAT AT SOME FUTURE DATE, IF WE WANT TO IMPROVE THOSE AREAS AND WE UTILIZE THOSE TERMS THAT WE CAN REACH THROUGH IN THREE 80 AGREEMENT. NOW, OTHERS REIMBURSED FOR ANY INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS OUTSIDE OF THOSE AREAS, BECAUSE, UM, FOR EXAMPLE, UH, THE, UH, WHERE THE LEGEND IS AT THAT HIS PROPERTY ON THE, THAT IS NOT WITHIN THE EPICENTER AND THERE IS NO, UH, SEWAGE LINES THROUGH THERE. SO IF THAT AREA WANTED TO DEVELOP AND GET INTO THAT, WE WOULD WANT TO WORK OUT AN AGREEMENT TO TIE THOSE PROPERTIES INTO FUTURE DEVELOPMENT INTO THAT AREA. AND THAT'S HOW WE WOULD IMPROVE SOME OF THAT INFRASTRUCTURE. IS THIS JUST ONLY SETTING THE BOUNDARIES OF THE TOURS ARE SAYING HOW WE CAN SPEND THE MONEY OF THE TOURISTS OR BOTH SETTING THE BOUNDARY OF THE CHARTER SAYS, OKAY, SO WE HAVEN'T DISCUSSED WHERE WE CAN SPEND THE TOURIST. THIS IS JUST SETTING THE BOUNDARIES, THIS SETS THE BOUNDARIES OF THE TOURIST ITSELF. AND IF WE WANT TO DISCUSS THE USE OF THE TARES, THAT'D BE WELDERS BENEFIT AS WELL. YOU BUILD A TOURIST SO THAT YOU CAN USE THAT MONEY TO REINVEST IN THE TOURIST , BUT THE PROJECT CAUSE THEY SAID SO, AND, OH, SORRY. AND THE CITY [01:00:01] MANAGERS CERTAINLY MORE FAMILIAR THAN I AM WITH, WITH ALL THE INFRASTRUCTURE TIE-INS AND WHATNOT. BUT AS THIS PROJECT IS DEVELOPED, OBVIOUSLY THERE'S GOING TO BE, UH, YOU KNOW, WE, WE HAVE, WE HAVE RIGHTS OF WAY. UH, WE HAVE DRAINAGE ISSUES. WE HAVE, UH, YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT TYPES OF UTILITIES THAT ARE GOING TO HAVE TO BE PROVIDED. UM, WE CERTAINLY SHAFFER ROAD, WHICH BORDERS, THE SUBDIVISION WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE ELIGIBLE FOR REIMBURSEMENT. WHEN I, WHEN I WAS TALKING ABOUT STREETS WITHIN THE SUBDIVISION, THAT'S A DIFFERENT, THAT'S A DIFFERENT ISSUE THAT WE'RE NOT THE SUBDIVISION ITSELF DOES NOT FALL WITHIN THE BOUND, THE BOUNDARIES, THE TERSE. SO, YEAH. AND THEN I DON'T KNOW IF I READ, IS THERE W I CAN STILL ASK THIS QUESTION DURING PUBLIC HEARING, MAYBE, UM, IS THERE GOING TO BE A MANAGEMENT GROUP THAT WILL MANAGE THE TERMS, MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S NO LEAKAGE AS FAR AS PROPERTY VALUATION GOING UP. IS THERE GOING TO BE A MANAGEMENT COMPANY THAT MANAGES THE FINANCES HERE? CAUSE I KNOW WE'VE DONE THAT IN THE PAST. WELL, THE CITY COMMISSION IS INTENDED TO SIT AS THE TERS BOARD. THERE'S ONE HAS, I THINK, I THINK A MANAGEMENT OR NODDED IN TEAM OR SOMETHING OF THAT SORT. SO IS THIS GOING TO REQUIRE AN AUDITING TEAM OR A MANAGEMENT TEAM TO OVERSEE THE FINANCES? I MEAN, THE CITY COMMISSION IS GOING TO SIT AS THE, AS THE, AS THE TOURIST BOARD. I MEAN, AS A TOURIST BOARD, YOU WOULD HAVE THE SAME ACCESS TO CITY AUDITORS AND WHATNOT THAT YOU HAVE PRESENTLY. BUT, UH, BUT I, I THINK YOU NEED TO SEPARATE PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT FROM THE FUNCTIONS OF THE TERRORS, WHICH IS THE DISTRIBUTION OF THE MONEY COLLECTED FROM THE DIFFERENCE IN THE TAX INCREMENT GENERATED WITHIN THE ZONE. THAT'S IT, THAT'S THE FUNCTION OF THE TOURIST BOARD IS TO APPROVE THE, UH, APPROVED THE FINAL FINANCE PLAN, APPROVE THE FINAL PROJECT PLAN TO ENTER INTO AGREEMENTS WITH, UH, PROJECT AGREEMENTS WITHIN THE TERRORS. AND THOSE ARE ALL THINGS THAT THE TOURIST BOARD WILL TAKE UP ONCE CREATED BY THE CITY COMMISSION. SO, SO WE WON'T NEED AN AUDITING FIRM TO TAKE, TO HELP US OUT AND MANAGING OUR MANAGEMENT OR FINANCE, MANAGING GROUP THAT HELP US WITH THIS TOURS. WE CURRENTLY USE AN, A AUDITING FIRM TO DO THE CHURCH NUMBER IN WHICH WE'RE PARTNERS WITH CAMERON COUNTY. AND WE DO THAT, UH, AS A INDEPENDENT AUDIT. UH, AND WE WILL PROBABLY HAVE TO DO THAT HERE. MAYBE, MAYBE NOT JUST DEPENDS ON WHAT THE CITY COMMISSION DECIDES, BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO SUBMIT EVERY OTHER YEAR REPORTS TO THE STATE CONTROLLER'S OFFICE. SO THERE ARE REQUIREMENTS THAT WE HAVE TO MEET WITH THE STATE CONTROLLER'S OFFICE AND REPORTING. SO USUALLY IT'S THOSE KINDS OF THINGS. JUST LIKE WE HAVE A CITY INDEPENDENT AUDITOR, WE HIRE INDEPENDENT AUDITS. I THINK THE FEES, A COUPLE OF THOUSAND DOLLARS, THREE, FOUR, 5,000 SOMETHING IN THERE THAT WE DO WITH THE, UH, WITH THE, UH, THE AGREEMENT WE HAVE, UH, TOURIST NUMBER ONE WITH CAMERON COUNTY. IS THERE A LIMIT ON THE TERSE? IS IT GOING TO BE A LIMIT LIKE A FIVE YEARS, 10 YEARS, 15 YEARS, WHATEVER, 15 YEARS, 15 YEARS. AND IT'S THE NEXT ITEM. OKAY. OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTION? I DON'T REMEMBER. 10? NOPE. OKAY. AND GO, I DON'T REMEMBER. [11. Consideration and possible action to approve Resolution Number 2021-1102- ll(R), expressing intent to create City San Benito TIRZ Number 2 and directing the creation of a Finance Plan for the TIRZ.] 11. I DON'T REMEMBER LIVING CONSIDERATION POSSIBLE ACTION TO APPROVE A RESOLUTION NUMBER 2021 DASH 11 0 2 DASH 11 ARE EXPRESSING INTENT TO CREATE A SUMMARY OF ALL THE CITY OF SAN BENITO THIRST. NUMBER TWO IN DIRECTING THE CREATION OF A FINANCE PLAN FOR THE TERSE AND M LENDER THAT ALSO PRESENTED THIS. OKAY. MAYOR BEFORE SIR, ITEM NUMBER 11. LET ME ASK THE CITY SECRETARY THAT WE CLOSED THE PUBLIC HEARING. DO YOU HAVE A, WE DID. OKAY. VERY GOOD. JUST DIDN'T HEAR. OKAY. UM, BEFORE YOU USE A RESOLUTION IN SUPPORT OF CREATING THE SEMI TUTORS, NUMBER TWO, AND ALSO THE CREATION OF THE FINANCE PLAN FOR THE TOURS. SO THIS IS A RESOLUTION MR. UH, SALSA PREPARED. IT IT'S, IT, IT GOES, UM, IT'S PART OF THE CHURCH CREATION. UH, IF YOU APPROVE THIS RESOLUTION, BASICALLY THE RESOLUTION FINDS THREE THINGS WHICH ARE LEGAL REQUIREMENTS. FIRST THAT THE CITY COMMISSION FINDS THAT THE PROPOSED HER'S BOUNDARIES WON'T BE DEVELOPED IN THE FORESEEABLE FUTURE SOLELY THROUGH PRIVATE INVESTMENT. IT'S VACANT LAND. THAT'S SITTING THERE THAT THE CITY COMMISSION GIVES PUBLIC MOTIVES IS FORMAL INTENTION TO CREATE THE CITY OF SAN BENITO THERESE REINVESTMENT HIS OWN NUMBER TWO, AND THEN THREE THAT A REINVESTMENT, HIS OWN FINANCING PLAN. YOU'RE DIRECTING THAT I'D BE PREPARED WHERE THE CITY OF SAN BENITO THURS NUMBER TWO. [01:05:05] SO AGAIN, UM, IF THIS DEVELOPER, IF HE DOESN'T, UH, CREATE THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT, UH, FOR THE TERSE, SO HE'S NOT, I MEAN, HE DOESN'T GET ANYTHING THE CITY, RIGHT, RIGHT. THE WHAT, WHAT BASICALLY WHAT WE HAVE IS WE HAVE A MAXIMUM REIMBURSABLE NUMBER. I THINK THE, THE NUMBER WAS A 12.5 MILLION. WE HAVE A BUDGET AND THE PRELIMINARY FINANCE PLAN OF HIS ANTICIPATED EXPENSES, WHICH ARE 12.5 MILLION IN PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE. OKAY. NOW THIS TERM IS, THERE'S TWO WAYS YOU CAN FINANCE YOUR TOURISTS. YOU CAN DO IT THROUGH A BONDED IN A DEBTEDNESS WHERE THE CITY ACTUALLY GOES OUT AND GOES INTO DEBT. AND THEN THE DEVELOPER BUILDS THE INFRASTRUCTURE, OR YOU CAN DO IT ON A PAY AS YOU GO BASIS, WHICH IS WHAT WE HAVE. ALL RIGHT. AND ON A PAY AS YOU GO BASIS, THE CITY DOESN'T GO INTO DEBT, DOESN'T INCUR ANY LIABILITY TO HIS GENERAL FUND. AND THE DEVELOPER'S REIMBURSED, REIMBURSED AS TAXES ARE COLLECTED FROM THE TOURIST, BASED ON THE, BASED ON THE DIFFERENCE IN THE TAX INCREMENT BETWEEN WHAT ITS ASSESSED VALUE IS RIGHT NOW AND WHAT IT WILL BE AFTER HE PUTS IN THE DEVELOPMENT. OKAY. SO BASICALLY THERE'S A, YOU HAVE A BUDGET, YOU HAVE A MAXIMUM NUMBER, AND THEN HE'S REIMBURSED AS THE MONEY COMES INTO THE TERRORS, ACCORDING TO THE FORMULA SET FORTH IN THE TOURIST ORDINANCE. SO WHAT IS IT, WHAT IS THE, UH, THE INVESTMENT THAT SOMEBODY JUST DOING? HOW MUCH MONEY IS IT? THE IT'S SOMEBODY TO DO IT? SAN BENITO IS NOT PUTTING ANY MONEY INTO THIS AT ALL. NOTHING. ANYTHING? NO. THE, THE, THE, THE THING IS, IS THAT RIGHT NOW? THERE'S NO THERE. OKAY. SO RIGHT NOW YOU HAVE A, YOU HAVE, UH, AGRICULTURAL LAND, RIGHT? THE, THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT HE WILL BE, THE INVESTOR WILL BE ABLE TO GET, UH, IN TERMS OF, AS A, AS A SUBSIDY WILL BE BASED ON THE DIFFERENCE IN THE APPRAISED VALUE BETWEEN WHAT'S THERE RIGHT NOW AND WHAT HE BILLS. SO IF, IF THE INVESTOR, SO IF, IF THE DEVELOPER BASICALLY INVEST, LET'S SAY HE INVEST 10 MILLION OR $10 MILLION IN INFRASTRUCTURE RIGHT NOW. NOW THE INFRASTRUCTURE IS JUST PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT. THE INFRASTRUCTURE IS GOING TO SUPPORT STORE'S COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT, OH, HOTEL, A CONVENTION CENTER. BUT JUST, WE'RE JUST TALKING ABOUT THE INFRASTRUCTURE COSTS, RIGHT? AND COST ALLOWABLE BY THE TOURS. HE CAN BE REIMBURSED THAT AS AN INCENTIVE FOR THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT OF VACANT LAND. IT'S NOT COSTING THE CITY, ANYTHING OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND, AND IT'S NOT TAKING TAXES FROM OTHER AREAS OF THE CITY TO SUBSIDIZE A DEVELOPER, THE ONLY MONEY THAT WHO WILL BE ABLE TO, HE WILL BE ABLE TO GET IN THE FORM OF THE TERRORS IS THAT MONEY. HE, HE GENERATES HIMSELF THROUGH THE INCREASE IN THE TAX INCREMENT WITHIN THE ZONE, WHICH HE'S BUILDING. SO, UM, YEAH, I MEAN, THERE'S, THERE'S NOT, THERE'S NOTHING THERE NOW. YEP. YEAH. THE QUESTION COMMISSIONERS. OKAY. AND MORE QUESTIONS. AND, UH, DO I HAVE A MOTION MOTION TAKEN BY COMMISSIONER ALL IN FAVOR. ONE KNEE. OKAY. SO WE GET THE FOUR YEARS WHEN THEY MOTION PASSES. OKAY. NUMBER 12, [12. First Reading of Ordinance Number 2590-11-2021, designating an area known as the "RGV Epicenter Investment Zone", describing the boundaries of the zone, creating a Board of Directors, providing for effective date and termination date, naming the zone "City of San Benito Reinvestment Zone Number Two" and establishing a Tax Increment Fund.] FIRST REASON OF A ORDINANCE NUMBER 25, 25, 90 DASH 11 DASH 2021. THEY'RE CONDITIONED TO AN AREA KNOWN AS THE RGV EPICENTER INVESTMENT. THE ZONE DESCRIBING THE BOUNDARIES OF THE ZONE CREATED ON, UH, A BOARD OF DIRECTORS PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE AND TERMINATION DATE, NAMING THE ZONE CITY OF SAN BENITO, RE REINVESTMENT ZONE. NUMBER TWO, ESTABLISHING IT TAX INCREMENT FUND. AND MY MOTHER WAS A PERCENTAGE CENTER. ERIC COMMISSIONER HAS TO BE FOR YOU IS THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE. UM, MARY, YOU WERE ASKING HOW LONG THE TOURS PERIOD WAS, IS 15 IS PROPOSED TO BE 15 YEARS, SECTION EIGHT. BUT, UH, IN THE AMOUNT OF, REMEMBER IT DID CHANGE FROM 12 MILLION TO 14 MILLION, $973,757 THE CONDITION SEE THE 20%. YOU WANT TO CLARIFY THAT? OKAY. SO WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT MAXIMUM FIGURES, RIGHT? UH, SO, SO HE, THE BUDGETED FIGURE, I THINK WAS 12.5 MILLION. THE REASON THAT THE MAXIMUM FIGURE THAT THIS, THE, THE MAXIMUM FIGURE THE CITY COULD POTENTIALLY INVEST INTO THE TERRORS IS FOUR POINT 14.9, UH, IS, IS BECAUSE THERE'S A 20% CONTINGENCY FEE IN [01:10:01] THE, UH, IN THE, UH, TO ACCOUNT FOR INCREASES IN COSTS OF CONSTRUCTION. SO RIGHT NOW HE HAS BUDGETED. HE'S SIMPLY SAYING, I'VE GOT BUDGETED 12.5. THIS IS WHAT I THINK THE COST OF THE PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE IS GOING TO BE. RIGHT. BUT THE PROBLEM IS WITH THE COST OF BUILDING MATERIALS, WHAT HAPPENS IF HIS COSTS ARE ACTUALLY HIGHER THAN THAT? AND HE HAS TO SPEND MORE THAN THAT. SO WE WE'VE ALLOWED IN THE PRE-DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT THAT WE SIGNED THE CITY SIGN BETWEEN THE DEVELOPER, A 20% CONTINGENCY FEE. AGAIN, THIS ISN'T MONEY HE'S GOING TO GET. IT'S, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S A MAXIMUM BUDGET THAT HE COULD, THAT HE COULD RECEIVE ON A REIMBURSEMENT BASIS. SO HE THINKS HE'S GOING TO SPEND 2012 0.5 IN, UH, IN, IN, IN INSTALLATION OF THE, OF THE, UH, PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE. BUT IF ITS COSTS ARE UP TO 20% HIGHER THAN THAT, HE COULD STILL BE REIMBURSED BECAUSE OF, BECAUSE UNDER THE CONTINGENCY FEE. SO WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT EXPECTED TO SEE ANY PROPERTY TAX REVENUE FOR THE CITY FOR AT LEAST 15. NO, THAT'S NOT TRUE. I DREW YOUR ATTENTION TO THE SECTION EIGHT, AND IF HE GETS IT SOONER, IF HE CAN ACCESS THE MONEY. SO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING WELL, OKAY. SO THE FIRST FIVE YEARS, UM, HE WOULD BE TO A HUNDRED PERCENT DRAW DOWN ON INCREASES IN TAX, BUT THE NEXT FIVE YEARS WOULD ONLY BE 75. AND THEN END OF THE FIVE YEARS AFTER THAT, IT WOULD BE 50. SO, SO EVEN THOUGH HE'S GOT A MAXIMUM CAP, HE'S ALSO GOT A MAXIMUM DRAW BASED ON THE PERCENTAGE, BECAUSE YEAH, BECAUSE I, THE CITY, UH, AS THIS AREA DEVELOPS, THE CITY'S GONNA EXPERIENCE GROWTH. RIGHT. AND, AND SO W WE CERTAINLY WANT TO BE ABLE TO, UH, PARTICIPATE IN SOME OF THE TAX INCREASES, GENERATED WITHIN THE ZONE. SO, UM, TH THE, THE, ALTHOUGH IT'S A 15 YEAR, UH, AGREEMENT, HE'S NOT GETTING A HUNDRED PERCENT FOR 15 YEARS. HE'S GETTING A HUNDRED, THE FIRST 5 75, THE SECOND FIVE AND 50, THE THIRD FIVE SO TH THIS, THIS ALSO REWARDS THE DEVELOPER FOR BUILDING QUICKLY AND INVESTING IN SAN BENITO QUICKLY. OKAY. YEAH. THE QUESTIONS, NO. OKAY. JUST A READING. AND, UM, WE'LL MOVE ON TO [13. Discussion and possible action on adding streets to the Road Maintenance List for Fiscal Year 2021-2022.] ITEM NUMBER 13, DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION ON ADDING STREETS TO ROAD MAINTENANCE LIST DOWN FOR FISCAL YEAR 2021 DASH 2022, AND A PERCENTAGE ITEM MAYOR COMMISSIONERS. UM, ABOUT SIX WEEKS AGO, WE DISCUSSED THE SOMETIME IN NOVEMBER ADDING MORE STREETS TO THE LIST. SO WHAT I DID WAS I PROVIDED YOU THE LIST THAT WAS ALREADY APPROVED FOR THE LAST FISCAL LEADER. UH, MR. VASQUEZ CAN CERTAINLY GIVE YOU AN UPDATE WHERE WE ARE TODAY AND WHAT THE ANTICIPATED, UH, ROAD PROJECTS ARE. UH, THE, UM, KEY IS GOING TO TAKE SOME OF THE STREETS OUT OF ORDER, AND YOU'VE AUTHORIZED THAT WE CAN DO THAT. UH, ONE IS, WE AGREED. THEY WOULD COME BACK IN NOVEMBER TO, UH, MAYOR GHETTO LAST WEEK REQUESTED THAT AN ADDITIONAL ROAD BE, UH, ADDED TO THE LIST. UM, IT WASN'T APPOINT REPAIR. IT'S NOT A POTHOLE, IT'S NOT JUST A SIMPLE OVERLAY. IT'S, IT'S ACTUALLY A REHABILITATION. SO THEREFORE, UH, AT HIS REQUEST, I'M BRINGING IT NOW. SO HE CAN CERTAINLY ADD THAT ROADWAY WHILE WE'RE IN THAT AREA. UM, BUT WE'RE, FOR EXAMPLE, WENT, UH, THE PUBLIC WORKSHOP TODAY TOLD ME, SAID, LOOK, I'M GOING TO DO THE SMALLER STREETS BECAUSE WINT STREET IS 1500 LINEAR FEET. IT'S GOT A LOT OF CONCRETE, LOT OF CURB ISSUES. IT'S GOING TO TAKE US APPROXIMATELY EIGHT WEEKS TO GET THAT DOWN. SO I WANT TO GET THE OTHER ROADS OUT OF THE WAY BEFORE I CONCENTRATE ON THAT ROADWAY. SO, UH, YOU KNOW, SO QUITE HONESTLY, WE'VE GOT ENOUGH WORK PROBABLY FOR THE NEXT TWO AND A HALF MONTHS. SO, BUT I WANT YOU TO START GETTING THAT. BUT IF, UH, IF WE ARE GOING TO ADD THE ROAD THAT MS, UH, THAT, UH, MAYOR GHETTO WANTS, WHICH IS ON, UM, BLURRY ON BOWIE BETWEEN CHAPMAN AND TURNER, UH, WE NEED TO, WE NEED TO ADD IT, UH, DURING THAT PROCESS. BUT AGAIN, UH, UH, IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT, YOU KNOW, THE CONVERSATION I HAD WITH THE MAYOR WAS IT CAN ONLY COME COLLECTIVELY FROM THE COMMISSION, UH, ANY DEVIATION FROM THAT, THAT, UH, ESPECIALLY IF I DON'T THINK IT'S ONE OF THOSE THAT IT'S NOT JUST A SIMPLE OVERLAY OR SOMETHING THAT I CAN DO. SO, AND WE LOOKED AT IT, UH, UH, ACCORDING TO MR. VASQUEZ, UH, ASSESSMENT, 60% OF THE ROAD IS IN NEED OF IT, BUT HERE'S THE OTHER ISSUE. AND THIS IS THE CONVERSATION I HAD WITH THE MAYOR. ONE BLOCK [01:15:01] NORTH OF BALLENGER, THE CURVES ARE, ARE IN BAD SHAPE AND THE ROAD IS JUST AS BAD. SO IT'S, AGAIN, THIS IS THE CONVERSATION I'D LIKE TO HAVE WITH ALL OF THESE IS IF IT'S THREE BLOCKS IS THREE BLOCKS. IF IT'S FOUR IT'S FOUR, BUT WHEN I STARTED ADDING ONE BLOCK ONE WAY OR ANOTHER BLOCK, ANOTHER, BECAUSE SOMEBODY'S CALLING YOU WHEN, WHEN DOES IT END? SO, UH, WHAT I LIKE TO GET FROM YOU IS TWO TO THREE ROADS FROM EACH ONE OF YOU, ABOUT THREE BLOCKS. EACH THAT WOULD GIVE ME AT LEAST 10 ROADS, THREE BLOCKS. THAT'S 30 BLOCKS SOMETIME IN THE NEAR FUTURE. SO WE CAN ADD IT, UM, TO GIVE ME A LIST OF 40, 70, 80. I THINK DOESN'T REALLY GET ME ANY WORK BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO BE FOR THE NEXT SEVERAL YEARS. SO IT, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO, UNFORTUNATELY, WE CANNOT MAKE EVERYBODY HAPPY, BUT I AM GOING TO GIVE YOU SOMETHING THAT WE RAN ACROSS TODAY. MR. BELL, I KNOW COMMISSIONER GARCIA HAD RECOMMENDED GETTING A, A ZONE AND SEATS TO KIND OF, TO KIND OF KEEP OUR EYES IN ONE ZONE VERSUS JUMPING AROUND. DID WE MAKE ANY PROGRESS TOWARDS THAT? I THOUGHT WE WERE GOING TO HAVE ONE. I THINK IT WAS BELIEVED MR. SIMON'S WORK ON THAT. OR WAS THAT JUST A JOKE? I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WERE JUST, YEAH, I DON'T KNOW. YOU KNOW, WE'VE LOOKED AT THE STREETS AND, AND ALL THE STREETS ARE IMPORTANT TO, SO, BUT NO, WE, WE'VE NOT CONCENTRATED ON THAT BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN CONCENTRATING ON FINISHING THOSE STREETS AND YOU SEE WHAT'S ON FACEBOOK. WE SEE WHAT W HOW MANY STREETS WE HIT. W WE'RE DOING A LOT, A LOT OF STREETS RIGHT NOW. UH, I WANT TO BRING THIS TO YOU BEFORE WE, UH, AND IT'S PART OF IT. AND IT'S THE ROADWAYS. UM, THERE IS A DEED HERE, A DEED OF TRUST RECORDS THAT WAS ACTUALLY FOLLOWING ON A PROPERTY. YOU'LL SEE, IN THE MIDDLE OF THE FIRST PAGE, IT SAYS IN THE ORDINANCE, AND YOU'LL SEE THAT IT'S GOT A REC A RECORD OF NATION NUMBER 1, 2 62 AT THE TOP. THIS CAME OUT OF THE CAMERON COUNTY CLERK'S OFFICE AND IT'S GOT STREETS. AND THIS IS WHAT I FIND VERY INTERESTING. UH, WE HAVEN'T DONE STREETS IN ALL VERY LONG TIME. AND, AND, AND I HEARD THAT IN 1970S, MAYOR SAYS HER GONZALEZ WENT TO WASHINGTON DC AND FIXED ROADS. AND HE DID, BUT THIS IS WHAT HE DID. HE ALSO PASSED LIENS. AND MY UNDERSTANDING WAS BECAUSE I'VE READ SOME OF THE MINUTES IS ALL THE CITY WILL FIX THE ROADS. IF YOU CONTRIBUTE YOUR HALF. AND THIS IS WHAT THEY DID, THIS IS YOURS. SO THEY THOUGHT IF YOU DIDN'T PAY YOUR PORTION OF THE ROAD, YOU GOT A LEAN FILE. I GOT SOMEBODY RIGHT NOW. THAT'S ONLY $95,000 TO THE CITY BECAUSE THEY HAVEN'T PAID HER SINCE 1974. OKAY. SO THE IDEA IS THAT YOU ARE NEVER GOING TO CATCH UP WITH ALL THE ROADWAYS. IF YOU DON'T DECIDE TO TAKE SOME TYPE OF ACTION TO REALLY ADDRESS THEM, I'M NOT PROPOSING THIS. I'M JUST TELLING YOU THIS WAS IN THE 1970S. CAUSE I STILL HERE WHAT WE DID IN THE 1970S CITY MANAGER. HERE WE ARE IN 2021. WHY CAN'T YOU GET IT DONE? OKAY. YOU WANT OPTION A OPTION B? SO THE IDEA IS I NEED A LIST. LET US LET US KNOW WHAT IT IS, BUT HAVE VERY LITTLE INTERACTION WITH MY STAFF WHEN IT COMES TO GETTING THE JOB DONE, BECAUSE WE JUST GOT TO GET IT DONE, BUT WE DON'T DEVIATE FROM THE LIST UNLESS WE DID IT COLLECTIVELY. AND I'D RATHER STAY WITH THE LIST, ESPECIALLY I WON'T, I WANT TO HEAR MORE ABOUT WENTZ. UM, THE REASON I WANT TO, UH, MR. BOSTIC. OKAY. UM, THE REASON I WANT TO KNOW MORE IS BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO THROW IT ON THE BACK BURNER. IT'S BEEN ON OUR LIST. IT'S ONE OF THE PRIORITIES OUT THERE. IT'S ON OUR LIST, EXISTING LISTS. SO IF YOU, IF YOU, UM, PUT IT ON THE BACK BURNER. SO WHEN IS THIS COMING BACK, PLEASE? I WANT TO KNOW A LITTLE BIT MORE, UH, GOOD EVENING MAYOR COMMISSIONERS FOR THE RECORD, DAVID ALASKA'S PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR, UH, TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION COMMISSIONER, AS THE CITY MANAGER MENTIONED, WENT IS A LONGER PROJECT. IT'S NINE, I THINK NINE BLOCKS. UH, JUST THE CONCRETE ITSELF JUST ITSELF IS ABOUT 1500 LINEAR FEET. WE'RE LOOKING LIKE THE CITY MANAGER MENTIONED ABOUT EIGHT WEEKS, TWO MONTHS JUST TO GET THE PREP WORK, GOING, GET THAT GOING. SO WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS THE LOW LYING FRUIT, THE OTHER STREETS THAT ARE ON THE LIST. THAT THAT IS THE LIST. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO WORK ON. THERE'S NOTHING ELSE THAT'S ADDED TO, BESIDES WHAT WE TALK ABOUT, UH, LIKE POINT REPAIRS OR OTHER THINGS. BUT AS FAR AS THE OVERLAY, THIS IS THE LIST THAT I BEEN DIRECTED TO ADDRESS AND WORK ON. SO IF IT MOVES WITHIN [01:20:01] THAT, IF IT GOES TO THE LAST, DOES IT MEAN IT'S NOT GOING TO GET DONE? IT'S STILL GOING TO GET DONE. THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING FROM THE COMMISSIONERS AND THE DIRECTION FROM THE CITY MANAGER. AND SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE WORKING ON. SO MY QUESTION IS, IF IT'S NOT GOING TO BE THESE NEXT EIGHT WEEKS OR TWO MONTHS OR MORE, WHEN IS IT GOING TO BE PROBABLY, UH, WITH WHERE WE'RE AT RIGHT NOW IN NOVEMBER, I WOULD PROBABLY ANTICIPATE FIRST OF NEXT YEAR, STARTING THAT, BUT IN BETWEEN, IF WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO WORK ON THE CURBING, WHICH IS CONCRETE, NOT HOT ASPHALT, WE WILL WORK ON THE CONCRETE, UH, AS FAR AS THE CURBING. SO YOU MAY SEE THAT. AND OF COURSE I WILL INFORM THE CITY MANAGER TO LET YOU ALL KNOW WHERE WE'RE AT. AND SO WHEN THE PUBLIC SEES THAT THEY, THEY MAY THINK WE'RE GOING TO GET TO IT RIGHT. THEN, THEN IT'S PROBABLY NOT AS WHAT WE HAVE A LOT OF CURBING CONCRETE TO DO. JUST TO GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE. UH, WE JUST DID SOUTH BUOY AND THAT WAS 370 A SQUARE, UH, LINEAR FEET, WHICH IS ABOUT, UH, ABOUT A FOURTH, A FIFTH OF THE AMOUNT. SO WE LOOK AT WHEN WE STARTED THAT AND WE STARTED THAT IN SEPTEMBER 21ST AND WE'RE HERE AT NOVEMBER. SO IT TAKES TIME. WE HAVE WEATHER, INCLEMENT WEATHER PROJECTS THAT COME UP. WE HAVE EVENTS THAT WE SUPPORT ALSO AS A, AS A COMMUNITY. SO WE'RE JUST TRYING TO DO OUR BEST, BUT WE WANT TO KEEP YOU ABREAST OF THOSE CHANGES OR THOSE, THOSE THINGS. BUT AGAIN, LET ME REASSURE YOU MY DIRECTION FROM THE CITY MANAGER IS TO CONTINUE WITH THE APPROVED LIST. SO, SO TO BE CLEAR, WE'RE NOT GOING TO START ON THE 20, 21 BUDGET MONEY ON STREETS UNTIL WE'RE DONE WITH THE 2020. AND WHILE YOU'RE RECORDING NOW, YOU KNOW, UH, OCTOBER 1ST, 2021 WAS THE NEW BUDGET YEAR. SO WHETHER THE STREETS CARRY OVER, THAT'S THE BUDGET FOR THIS YEAR, WHICH IS A MILLION DOLLARS. YOU DIDN'T, IF YOU DIDN'T SPEND ALL LAST YEAR IN GOLD WAY, SELLING YOUR BUDGET, IT JUST GOT CARRIED OVER BECAUSE OF THE RUNWAY. SO YOU GOT A MILLION DOLLARS FROM THE MAYOR FROM WINTER. NO, YOU GOT A MILLION DOLLARS EVERY YEAR. YOU START NEW, YOU DON'T, THERE'S NO CARE. YOU DON'T GET TO KEEP LAST YEAR'S AND THEN GET THIS YEAR'S. IT STARTED OVER OCTOBER. ONE BUDGET IS A MILLION DOLLARS OVER THIS, BUT WHAT IS, WHAT DOES GO FORTH FIRST IS THE LIST THAT WE VOTED ON. AND THIS IS THE LIST THAT WE'RE WORKING ON. SO WE'RE NOT GOING TO START ANOTHER NEW LIST UNTIL WE FINISH WITH THE LIST OF 2020, CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT. THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING LESS UNLESS THE COMMISSION MODIFIES IT, BUT WHAT I'VE SAID IS THE MAYOR'S ASKED FOR ONE ADDITIONAL BLOCK. IT NEEDS TO COME BACK TO THIS BODY. OKAY. NOW, COMMISSIONER GARCIA. MY CONCERN IS THAT WE'RE ABOUT TO GET INTO THE RAINY SEASON FOR US, BETWEEN NOW AND FEBRUARY. QUITE HONESTLY, IT'S EASIER FOR US TO FINISH UP THE SMALLER JOBS AND GET THOSE OUT OF THE WAY, BECAUSE WE COULD BE ON THIS JOB STARTING SOON. AND WE GOT RAIN EXPECTED THURSDAY, AND SOME OF THOSE THINGS CONCRETE WORK IN RAIN, IT'S A LITTLE BIT EASIER THAN AN ASPHALT ROAD. PEAK PEAK IS TECHNICALLY ANY OF THIS MAJOR ASPHALT. WE'RE STUCK UNTIL ABOUT MID FEBRUARY TO MARCH ONE, BEFORE WE CAN HIT IT REALLY HARD AGAIN, BECAUSE JUST THE TIMING IS IT'S INCLEMENT WEATHER. AND WE KNOW THAT THOSE TYPES OF SEASONS, AND WE DISCUSSED THIS EARLY ON IN THE PROCESS. WE, THE WEATHER FOR US TO UNDERSTAND THAT WE CAN START IT. AND JUST BECAUSE IT IS WHENCE IS PROBABLY THE MOST USED ROAD. EXACTLY. AND THAT'S MY POINT TO THE END OF THE LIST OR ON THE BACK BURNER? NO, I WANT TO MAKE SURE IT'S ON OUR FIRST LIST SO WE CAN START HAVING TO CONTINUE MAKING THE EFFORT TO SOMEHOW COMPLETE WENTZ, UH, WHEN, BY THE END OF THIS LIST. OH YES, OF COURSE. AGAIN, FOR CLARIFICATION, IT'S ON THE LIST. IT WILL BE DONE BEFORE WE START INITIAL LIST. YES, YES. AGAIN, LICENSED CITY MANAGERS. YEAH. ALL RIGHT. LET'S FIND A MODIFY. AS LONG AS WE END UP, UH, AT THE END OF THE LIST AT THE, ALL THE ROADS THAT ARE IN THE INITIAL LIST HAVE BEEN COMPLETED. CORRECT. AND THAT'S WHY WE WANT IT TO GIVE YOU AN UPDATE, BECAUSE IF YOU WANT US TO START ON WINS, IT WOULD ACTUALLY SHOW IT IS ONE OF THE LONGEST ROADS, NINE BLOCKS. SO TECHNICALLY IT'S LIKE THREE ROADS FOR US, AND IT IS HEAVILY USED THE CONDITION IT IS, BUT YOU CAN START IT. WE HAVE TO MAKE EVERY EFFORT TO ENSURE THAT IT'S GOING TO BE COMPLETED. UH, BY THE TIME OF COURSE WE CAN BEAT THIS LIST BEFORE JUMPING INTO ANYTHING ELSE. YEAH. COULD WE DO IT? COULD WE, COULD WE START AT LEAST START WINS AND DO IT IN PHASES? YOU KIND OF MENTIONED THAT. WELL, WE'RE LOOKING AT THAT AS, AS WE'RE TRYING TO, AS WE'RE BALANCING OTHER THINGS THAT WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY, OF COURSE, WE'LL START, THERE'S A SECTION ON, UH, ON WEDNESDAY WE COULD PROBABLY DO ABOUT THREE BLOCKS. IT HAS MINIMAL, UH, UH, CONCRETE CURB, UH, THAT WE CAN DO. SO WE WILL HAVE THAT OPEN DISCUSSION WITH THE [01:25:01] CITY MANAGER. I'M OPEN TO THAT, INTO, TO LOOK AT THAT. BUT AGAIN, WE'RE TRYING TO BALANCE OUR WORKLOADS BASED ON THE WORK WEEK AND HOW WE CAN GET THINGS DONE. I DON'T RECALL. IS THERE CONCRETE, UM, IS THERE A CURB ALL THE WAY DOWN WINCE OR IS THERE SOME THAT DON'T HAVE MY UNDERSTANDING THERE IS KIND OF THE WAY DOWN ALL THE WAY, BOTH SIDES. SO THE SUBMIT, SOME OF THE ROADS ARE SAYING HAVE, UM, CEMENT, HOW THICK IS THAT CEMENT? IS IT IT'S, THERE'S, THERE'S ALWAYS DISCUSSION. DO WE OVERLAY THE CEMENT OR DO WE TAKE OUT THIS EVENT? IS THAT A BIG TASK TO TAKE OFF THE CEMENT AND START FRESH? I'M NOT AWARE OF THE CEMENT BEING ON THE WENTZ, BUT I WILL LOOK AT THAT AND GET IT BACK TO YOU. SO WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT AT THE BLOCKS BETWEEN SAN FRAN, TRICIA, UH, POINTY, AND SOMBRA, THERE'S A VERY LITTLE CURB REPLACEMENT. THERE IS WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT. SO WE COULD PROBABLY DO OVERLAY THERE FIRST AS PART OF THIS WHOLE THING. SO DOES IT FEEL LIKE WE'RE LEAVING THEM OUT? UH, WE WILL BALANCE THAT AS BEST WE CAN BASED ON WEATHER AND WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO. THE RECOMMENDATION, WHAT WE WERE ASKING IS THAT WE, AS WE MOVE THINGS AROUND, WE WANT TO GET, UH, TO THE LOW LYING FRUIT AND GET THOSE DONE THAT ARE LESS, UH, SEE YOURSELF POINT, BUT PEOPLE ARE TRACKING OUR LIST. YES, YES, SIR. OKAY. YES, THEY ARE. YEAH. AND COMMISSIONER, WE ARE LOOKING AT SWAMPS AND NEXT TO THE FIRST COMMUNITY BANK, IT'S A CONCRETE ROADWAY. IT'S VERY BAD IN THAT AREA. IT'S A POINT REPAIR. IT'S NOT A REHAB, BUT WE HAVE TO MAKE A POINT REPAIR. THAT'S PROBABLY 12 FOOT WEEK, 12 FEET WIDE BY ABOUT 30 FEET LONG. OKAY. THAT GETS A LOT OF COMMERCIAL TRAFFIC. HE JUST GOT TO GET DOWN BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S IN A HIGH USE AREA, RIGHT? YES, SIR. RIGHT THERE IN FRONT. SO THE NEW PROPOSAL THAT THE MAYOR HAD IN MIND, OR NO, NO, NO. OH NO. THIS IS A POINT REPAIR THAT THE ST MANAGER JUST MENTIONED THAT IT IS 28 FEET BY 54 FOOT IS WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT. IT'S A GOOD, A BIG SECTION THAT THERE'S A LOT OF TURTLE BUMPS IT'S REALLY, REALLY BAD. AND SO THAT WAS WHAT WE WERE LOOKING AT AS A POINT REPAIR. THIS IS NOT ANOTHER, WHEN IT RAINS, YOU CAN'T SEE THESE DOES BAD ROADWAY AND PEOPLE HAVE BLOWN OUT TIRES. WE NEED TO GET THAT AREA RESOLVED. IF NOT, WE JUST GOT TO CLOSE OFF THAT SECTION OF ROAD, WINTER. WE CAN GET TO IT. SO IT NEEDS TO GET DONE. WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AT YOAST, UH, YOAST, UH, IN SOME AREAS WHERE WE, THE AREAS THAT MOST POPULATED THE ROADS STARTING TO CRACK BEFORE WE LOSE THAT ROADWAY, WE NEED TO WORK ON IT. BROADWAY PLAYS PHASE ONE, THAT DEVELOPMENT WENT IN 2009. WE'VE GOT GROWTH BETWEEN THE, THE ASPHALT AND THE GUTTER. IT'S NOT TERRIBLY BAD, BUT IF WE DON'T, UH, IF WE DON'T ATTEND TO THAT AREA AND GET THAT GROWTH OUT AND TRY TO AT LEAST DO SOME MINOR OVERLAYS, WE'RE GOING TO LOSE THOSE ROADS. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THEM AS BAD AS WHAT WE'VE GOT ANOTHER. SO SOME OF IT IS PREVENTATIVE AND IT'S FAIRLY QUICK AND EASY FOR US TO GET IN THERE WHERE WE COULD SPEND HALF A DAY TO A DAY OF ADDRESSING SOME OF THESE IN SOME OF THESE AREAS. THEN WE WON'T HAVE TO BE THERE FOR YEARS, BUT IT'S, IT'S KIND OF THAT THING. WE LET IT GET AHEAD OF US AND WE DON'T CATCH UP. WHAT WAS THAT ROAD? UH, UH, THAT SUBDIVISION WENT IN IN 2009. SO WHAT THE PLATS IS, THE FIRST HOMES THAT WE CAN SEE ON, UH, GOOGLE EARTH WAS WHEN FRED CAME ON BOARD, THEY HAD TWO OR THREE HOMES IN 2016. SO PROBABLY HOMES WERE BUILT IN ABOUT 2015. BUT SO, YEAH, UH, I FIGURED IT HASN'T BEEN THAT OLD. NO, IT'S NOT, OR NO, IT'S NOT. SO THAT, THAT CONCERNS US. SO THAT'S WHY WE NOW HAVE ENGINEERS THAT WORK WITH OUR STAFF. AND WE LOOK AT SOME OF THESE THINGS. SO, BUT BEFORE WE LOSE SOME OF THESE AREAS THAT ARE FAIRLY NEW, WE NEED TO TRY TO ADDRESS THEM BEFORE THEY GET BEYOND, YOU KNOW, A TYPICAL KID, MINOR REPAIR AND GET, I WANT KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON OVER THERE. UH, RIGHT NOW THE MAYOR PRO TEM, SHE TOOK AWAY MY MAP THAT I HAVE, UH, ALREADY ALIGNED, YOU KNOW, ASSIGNED TO WHAT THE, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE'VE DONE. WHAT'S SUPPOSED TO BE DONE ALSO. AND FOR YOUR INFORMATION MONEY, UH, NOBODY CALLED ME ON THAT. BOY. I DROVE BY. SO NOBODY CALLED ME TO TELL ME THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, TO COMPLAIN ABOUT IT. I DROVE BY, OKAY. JUST TO MAKE THAT CLEAR. SO A LOT OF THE STREETS WHILE WE HAVE IN, I KNOW THAT WE, EVERYTHING THAT THE WHOLE CITY IS ON DIRE NEED MY SUBDIVISION. ALSO, I DON'T HAVE NOTHING ON MY SUBDIVISION TO DO AN OVERLAY BECAUSE ALL THE SEWER PIPE OR OUR CLAY PIPE, SO NOTHING THAT WE DO ON IT IS GOING TO START BREAKING ON IT. THAT'S WHY I HAVEN'T DONE ANYTHING ON MY SUBDIVISION, BUT WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND THAT, UH, I KNOW THAT WE LIKED YOUR STREETS. I LOOKED AT IT, I DROVE BY, I SAW IT. I SAW THE COMMISSIONERS, UH, ALSO, UH, COMMISSIONER [01:30:01] GUEVARA, ALSO BUOY ALL THE WAY TO, UH, ROBERTSON THAT THE, THE HIGH PLACES THAT THE, HOPEFULLY WE DON'T HAVE TO DO ANY CEMENT. AND MAYBE JUST TO OVERLAY ON IT, THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT I'M ASKING THE COMMISSION TO LOOK AT AND GIVE UNDERSTANDING TO, YOU KNOW, TO THIS GENTLEMEN THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, IF WE CAN DEVIATE NOT MUCH FROM, FROM THE LIST, BUT TO SEE IF WE'RE NOT, WE DON'T DO ANY TOO MUCH, ANY, UH, CEMENT WORK AND THE OVERLAY CAN BE DONE IN AND OUT. SO WE CAN START DOING A LOT MORE. BUT LIKE I SAID, UH, IT'S GOING TO HAVE TO COME FROM YOU GUYS TO REALLY COME INTO AGREEMENT WITH THIS, YOU KNOW, AND A LOT, A LOT OF THINGS COME TO MIND, OF COURSE, WE DON'T WANT YOU TO, WE KNOW YOU HAVE A LOT OF WORK AHEAD OF YOU. UH, AND OF COURSE WE DON'T WANT TO WANT YOU TO DEVIATE TOO MUCH FROM THE LIST OR REALLY AT ALL, BECAUSE, RIGHT. OKAY. BUT, BUT, UH, I ALSO UNDERSTAND THAT SOMETIMES IN CERTAIN AREAS, WHICH WE HAD DISCUSSED BEFORE, WE WILL, UH, FIND OTHER ROADWAYS OR OTHER STREETS SET THAT MAYBE HAVE BEEN MISSED AND SHOULD HAVE BEEN ADDED AT THAT TIME. SO WE CAN LOOK AT EVERYTHING. I MEAN, I'M OPEN TO SUGGESTIONS. UH, I KNOW WE HAVE A LOT OF WORK WHEN IT COMES TO THE STREET REPAIR. YEAH. AND THE LAST THING, UM, YOU KNOW, UM, PEOPLE POINTED OUT, UH, AND DIFFERENT CONVERSATIONS WITH THE COMMUNITY. UM, SOMEONE DID MENTION THIS BACK IN THE SEVENTIES AND THEY SAID, OH, WELL, THE STREETS GOT DONE AND THIS AND THAT. OKAY. BUT THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS. UH, YOU KNOW, THIS IS THE WAY IT WAS DONE. AND THEN OTHERS HAVE TO ADJUST THAT EVEN A BOND ISSUE AS TO, UH, WE NEED TO FIX ALL THE STREETS. WELL, I WISH WE COULD, BUT WE DON'T WANT TO SUBJECT PEOPLE TO MORE TAXES AND MORE THINGS LIKE THAT. SO IF WE CAN CONTINUE THE PLAN THAT WE HAVE, I THINK WE'LL GET STREETS DONE. WE'LL GET THEM DONE. WE'LL GET THE WORK DONE YESTERDAY. HI. OKAY. SO ADDING ON THE STREETS, WE'RE NOT ACTUALLY ADDING A STREET. UM, WHAT THE MAYOR WAS SUGGESTING IS WE'RE CURRENTLY WORKING ON SOUTH BOOTIE STREET. SO IT WAS SET TO BE FIXED FROM BALLENGER DOWN TO CHAPMAN, WHICH WOULD LEAVE A LITTLE PIECE OF BUOY, WHICH IS CHAPMAN TO YOAST UNDONE, WHICH IS ONE BLOCK IN ALL HONESTY. WE'RE ALREADY THERE. IT'S MORE COST-EFFECTIVE FOR US TO JUST CONTINUE IT AND FINISH IT OFF. OTHERWISE, I REALLY DON'T SEE US GETTING BACK TO THIS TINY ONE LITTLE BLOCK AND I FEEL LIKE IT'S GOING TO BE OVERLOOKED IN THE FUTURE. YEAH. AND THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT I JUST POINTED OUT. IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE MISSED, BECAUSE TO ME, I THINK WE MISSED THAT. WE SHOULD'VE ADDRESSED IT ALL THE WAY TO TURNER BECAUSE THERE'S STILL A BLOCK ALL THE WAY TO TURNER STREET. THAT'S CORRECT. THAT'S CERTAINLY YOUR OPTION. THAT'S WHAT YOU MEANT. SORRY. UH, YEAH. UH, I'M, I'M AN AGREEMENT OF EVERYBODY IS THAT WE, YOU KNOW, THAT JUST, I MEAN, THAT HITS THE NAIL ON THE HEAD. WHEN I, WHEN I SAID WE MIGHT'VE MISSED SOMETHING AND WE DEFINITELY MISSED A BLOCK, DO WE NEED THEM ALL? CAUSE THE STREET DOESN'T END AT CHAPMAN, IT CONTINUES THROUGH TURN. YEAH. OKAY. SO COMMISSIONER IS ALL I'M ASKING IS THAT THEY, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES, LIKE I SAID, I KNOW THAT THE, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE SAY DO NOT DEVIATE FROM THE LIST, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES WE DO HAVE MISSED, YOU KNOW, WE MISSED IT. I MISSED IT BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THE, AS I SAID, FROM CHAPMAN, THIS WAY, I MISSED IT BECAUSE I DIDN'T DRIVE ALL THE WAY THROUGH IT. I GOT THE ABOUT A COUPLE OF BOXES. THEN THE OTHER ONE, YOU KNOW, UH, THE OTHER BLOCK LOOKED PRETTY GOOD. I MISSED HIM DEVIATING. AND WE'RE JUST HERE. WE'RE JUST ADDING SOMETHING WE MISSED. ALL I'M ASKING IS, YOU KNOW, TO ADDRESS IT TO THE CITY MANAGER, THAT IF WE MISS SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO HAVE AN ACT OF CONGRESS TO COME BACK AGAIN AND START GIVING ME NEW DIRECTIONS. YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS WHAT WE HAVE, WELL, I, I DON'T WANT TO EITHER, UH, GIVE THE, OKAY THAT IT'S OKAY TO START MOVING THINGS AROUND BECAUSE IT'S NOT, WE HAVE A LIST THAT WE CREATED AS A COMMISSION AND WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE WORKING THAT WAY. AND WE NEED, YES, WE HAVE TO DISCUSS IF WE HAVE TO ADD ANOTHER BLOND BLOCK, JUST ONE BLOCK. YEAH. I TOTALLY AGREE WITH THAT. MISSIONARY, MR. VASQUEZ WAS INSTRUCTED TO GO ASSESS THE ROADWAYS. HE INFORMED ME THAT THE ROAD ONE SOUTH TO THE BLOCK WAS IN NEED, BUT IT, THAT IT WAS NOT AS BAD AS THE ONE BLOCK TO THE NORTH, RIGHT? THE CURBS. SO THE SAME AREA, THE THREE BLOCKS, WE MISS ONE BLOCK TO THE SOUTH THAT WANTS TO BE ADDED. I SIT, LOOK AT L GO BACK AND ASSESS IT. LOOK ONE BLOCK SOUTH ONE BLOCK NORTH, AND TELL ME, WHICH IS WORTH. AND THE ONE TOWARDS THE NORTH IS SLIGHTLY MORE, MORE DAMAGED. SO DO WE GO FROM THREE TO FIVE C THE POINT I'M TRYING TO MAKE COMMISSIONERS. I THOUGHT WE [01:35:01] HAD ALREADY JUST SAID IT THAT STREET. NO, SIR. SO WE'LL YOU ADDED THREE BLOCKS METER. WE MISS ONE BLOCK TO THE SOUTH TO FINISH OUT TURNER, BUT TECHNICALLY YOU'RE MISSING A WORST ROAD. YEAH. THEY JUST SHOWED ME. THEY JUST SHOWED US THE MAN. THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO EXPLAIN IS THAT THIS BLOCK OVER HERE IS WORSE THAN THIS LITTLE BLOCK. SO THAT'S THE DEVIATION. MY ONLY THING IS OBVIOUSLY YOU WORK IN GOOGLE MAPS, BUT IF WE JUST READ THIS ONE LITTLE WALK, A LITTLE BLOCK AND WE'RE GOING TO COME BACK, OKAY, WE'RE GONNA COME BACK TO THAT. OKAY. SO DO WE NEED A MOTION? WELL, NO, NO. SO LET'S ESTABLISH THE GROUND RULES BECAUSE WHEN I GET A CALL COMMISSIONERS AND I DIDN'T LIKE, DO YOU GUYS GET EVERY ONE OF YOU GOT AN EMAIL A WEEK AGO FROM SOMEBODY THAT LIVES OVER OFF OF 7 32 ABOUT GOING DOWN PENNSYLVANIA STREET, I BELIEVE, RIGHT? YOU ALL GOT THE EMAIL, YOU KNOW, ONE PERSON MENTIONED TO IT AND I GO, OKAY. I SAID, WE STILL DON'T HAVE THAT MANY FOLKS THERE. WE'RE GOING TO ADDRESS THE POTHOLES, BUT WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO ANY OVERLAYS. SO WE ADDRESS IT AND IT GOES INTO THE QUEUE. IT'S ACTUALLY BEEN IN THE QUEUE. WE'VE GOT A LOT OF OTHER STREETS IN THE QUEUE. WASN'T SATISFIED. SO THE IDEA IS, SO WE KNOW IT'S IN THE QUEUE. WE PUT IT IN THE QUEUE. WE JUST, WE DID AN ASSESSMENT, THE MARIJUANA, ME TO GO DO AN ASSESSMENT. I'LL SENSE A GO DO AN ASSESSMENT, BUT WE LOOK PERIPHERALLY. YOU KNOW, WE DO IT 360. WHAT DO WE GOT? SO IT'S NOT THREE BLOCKS. THAT MEANS I DRIVE ONE OR TWO. AND DO I DO ONE OVER THE OTHER FOR WHATEVER, THE REASON THAT ANYBODY CALLS ME, WHY ARE WE DOING ONE OVER THE OTHER? THAT'S WHY I BRING IT BACK TO YOU. I WOULD MUCH RATHER YOU DECIDE, BECAUSE IF I DECIDE IT'S SOMETHING I'M GOING TO ANSWER FOR, I GET A CALL. I'M GOING TO GO, OKAY, LET'S LOOK AT THIS. LET'S ASSESS IT. IF NOT, I'M GOING TO PUT IT ON AN AGENDA AND I'LL LET YOU DECIDE THEN UNFORTUNATELY IT IS A HOT TOPIC. IT IS A HOT TOPIC. IT'S VERY HOT. SO I, LIKE I SAID, I DON'T WANT TO DEVIATE TOO MUCH FROM THE LIST OTHER THAN IF WE MISS SOMETHING, UH, OUT THERE. UM, AND LIKE THE MAYOR EXPLAINED, UH, HE DIDN'T REALIZE THERE WAS ANOTHER BLOCK THAT WAY. UM, MAYOR PRO TEM SAYING THAT, WELL, THERE'S ANOTHER THREE BLOCKS NORTH THAT WE'RE GOING TO ADDRESS AT A LATER TIME. AND I BELIEVE HER CONCERN IS IF WE DON'T ADDRESS THAT LAST BLOCK, UM, WE WON'T COME BACK. WE PROBABLY WON'T COME BACK TO IT OR WELL, WHO KNOWS? WE'LL, WE'LL, WE'LL MISS IT AND LEAVE IT THERE. AND THOSE ARE THE THINGS I DON'T WANT TO LEAVE THINGS ON THE BACK BURNER BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS. WE NEVER COME BACK TO IT AND BRINGING IT BACK TO US IN FRONT OF US TO AGREE TO IT. I WOULD RATHER HAVE THE CONSENSUS OF THE COMMISSION TO ONE PERSON TO TELL YOU THE DIFFERENT, THAT IS MY THING. SO WE MOTION YES. TO THE AMENDMENT. MOTION TO THAT ONE LITTLE BLOCK, THE AMENDMENT OF ONE ADDITIONAL BLOCK. OKAY. SO WE'RE GOOD. AND CONTINUE TO BRING IT FORTH BEFORE THIS COMMISSION FOR ANY OTHER TANGIBLE. SO WE'LL, THAT'S AFTER THE WEEK FROM CHAPMAN TO CHARTER TO THAT, TO THOSE THREE BLOCKS ALREADY. AND WE WILL NO FOR CLARIFICATION CITY MANAGER, UH, AND COMMISSIONERS AND MERRITT WAS TO ACTUALLY ADD THE INTERSECTION OF CHATMAN PLUS THE BLOCK ITSELF. YES. YES. BECAUSE WE WERE STOPPING BEFORE THE INTERSECTION TICKET THROUGH THE INTERSECTION TO THE BORDER OF TURNER. OKAY. YOU HAVE TO TURN HER. OKAY. YEAH. IT WAS WANTING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE CLEAR ON THAT. OKAY. SO WE HAVE AN ISSUE LIKE THIS, BRING IT BACK TO US AND RIGHT THERE ON THE CORNER OF BALLINGER, I MEAN, YOU SIT THE BALLINGER, THE CORNER. IS THAT WHERE ALL THE FLOODING IS? THAT I'M NOT SURE ON THE FLOODING. IT LOOKS AT IT. OKAY. BUT WE'RE STOPPING BEFORE A VOLUNTARY. THAT'S CORRECT. WE DO. THAT'S WHAT? OKAY. IS THAT A MOTION AND A SECOND. OKAY. SO WE GOT A MOTION TO ADD ONE MORE BLOCK SOUTH, ALL THE WAY TO TURNER FROM CHAPMAN AND TURNER. IS THAT WHAT THE CUMULATIVE MOTION? I'LL SECOND IT, OKAY. SECOND BY COMMISSIONER JONES RUN ALL IN FAVOR. ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. ANY NAYS? WHAT'S YOUR BEST. OKAY. DO I HAVE TO BLOCK? ALL RIGHT. YES, SIR. THANK YOU. GREAT. THANK YOU. ANY, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. REMEMBER 14, [14. Consideration and possible action to approve the 79th Annual San Benito Christmas Parade registration forms which include entry fees and rules and regulations.] CAUSE ORIGINAL POSSIBLE ACTION TO APPROVE 79TH ANNUAL SOMEBODY WHO CAUSE THE PARADE REGISTRATION FORMS TO INCLUDE THE ENTROPIES AND RULES AND REGULATIONS. AND, UH, MR. NICKY CYRANO, APPROXIMATE RATES, UH, PRESENTED THIS GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COMMISSIONERS, NIKKI'S IT ON OLD PARKS AND RECREATION, SPECIAL [01:40:01] PROJECT PLANNER FOR THE RECORD CITY STAFF IS PREPARING FOR THE SAN BENITO CHRISTMAS PARADE. A CHRISTMAS INTO ISLAND, INTERESTED PARTICIPANTS ARE ENCOURAGED TO REGISTER A FLOAT MARCHING UNIT, CAR BIKE, OR HORSE CLUB. THIS ITEM IS TO APPROVE THE REGISTRATION FORMS FOR SUCH ENTRIES, STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL MIRA COMMISSIONERS. BEFORE YOU, UH, VOTE ON THIS MATTER, THE, UM, THE WE'VE LOWERED THE NUMBER OF PRIZES DOWN TO THREE. IF YOU MIGHT RECALL, TWO YEARS AGO, WE HAD 12 AND WE WERE ALSO GIVING THOSE THAT WERE NOT SCHOOLS. UM, SOME, ONE OF THE LOCAL BUSINESSES WON ONE OF THOSE. IT IS OUR BELIEF THAT IT SHOULD ONLY BE SCHOOL DISTRICTS. ANYBODY CAN PUT UP A FLOATED, BUT THE ONLY ONES THAT SHOULD BE GAINING THOSE CASH REWARDS ARE THE SCHOOLS. SO, AND, UH, NOT EVERYBODY SHOULD BE GETTING WAR. SO YOU TOOK AWAY THE BUSINESS AND THE RELIGIOUS, BECAUSE THERE WAS THREE CATEGORIES, CORRECT FOR OR AWARDS. THEY'RE STILL, THEY CAN PARTICIPATE, BUT THEY WON'T BE JUDGED FOR AWARDS UNLESS YOU WANT US TO CHANGE IT. THAT'S WHAT IT IS. UH, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE ONE OF THE LOCAL BUSINESSES, BUT AGAIN, UH, CHRISTMASES FOR THE KIDS. YES. SO, UH, YOU KNOW, TAKING THAT POSITION AND ALSO WE WOULD LIKE TO, UM, STILL HAVE THE FLOAT FOR THE ELECTED OFFICIALS, UH, THE TRAILER, WE WOULD TAKE YOU DOWN TO THE END. AND THEN WE WOULD LIKE FOR THE ELECTED OFFICIALS, SOMEBODY THERE WILL KIND OF PROCTOR EMPTY, BUT WE WOULD LIKE FOR THE ELECTED OFFICIALS TO BE THE JUDGES, TO, IN OTHER WORDS, WE'RE GOING TO GET YOU THROUGH THE PARADE, GET YOU TO THE END, GET YOU OFF THE TRAILER, GET YOU SITUATED UP ON THE STAND. AND THEN, AND WITH ENOUGH TIME AND DISTANCE THAT WHEN THE, THESE BANDS OR THE SCHOOLS COME THROUGH THAT YOU'RE JUDGING THEM. IF YOU DON'T WANT THEM, WE NEED TO START LOOKING TO SEE WHAT OUR JUDGES GOING TO BE. SO WE'RE JUST TRYING TO CHANGE UP A LITTLE BIT. CAN IT BE, OR DESIGNEE FROM THE COMMISSION OR THE OFFICIALS YOU GOT TO TELL US, YOU SET THE GROUND RULES. WE'RE TRYING TO ESTABLISH THIS. NOW WE'RE A MONTH OUT. LET'S ANYBODY FROM THE COMMITTEES ALSO THAT WANTS TO BE A JUDGE BECAUSE WE'LL COMMITTEE OR LIKE THE OTHER COMMITTEES, LIKE THE CDBG GROUP, MAYBE, OR THE PARKS AND REC GROUP. I DON'T KNOW, SPECIAL EVENTS OR THAT'S NOT IN EXISTENCE ANYMORE. NIKKI IS THE SPECIAL EVENTS SPORT. THANK YOU, NIKKI. UM, I DO, UM, I WOULDN'T MIND, UH, UH, HAVING THE ELECTED OFFICIALS OR HIS OR HER DESIGNEE. OKAY. FIVE ELECTED OFFICIALS OR DESIGNEE. YEAH. OKAY. I JUST WANT TO ASK FOR A LITTLE BIT, UM, I DUNNO, UH, YOU SAID THAT ONLY SCHOOLS ARE ELIGIBLE FOR THE, UH, CASH PRICE, RIGHT? UH, HOW ABOUT HOW MANY, UM, FIRST, SECOND, THIRD PLACES AND CATEGORIES THERE, IS THAT STILL GONNA EXIST? IT'S STILL GOING TO BE OVERALL. YEAH. OKAY. THAT'S GOING TO STAY THE SAME. THIS IS THE ONLY CHANGE IS THAT THE CASH PRICES WILL GO TO SCHOOLS. IS THAT CORRECT? OR THERE WILL BE NO CATEGORIES. IT'S JUST GOING TO BE OVERALL FOR A SECOND. AND THIRD, THAT'S WHY I MENTIONED SHE TOOK, THEY TOOK AWAY THE RELIGIOUS AND THE BUSINESS PART. WELL, THE THEMES, TOY LAND. SO, UH, UP UNTIL TWO YEARS AGO, WE ONLY HAD, I THINK TWO GROUPS, TWO YEARS AGO, WE HAD LIKE 12, THEY WENT ON FOREVER AND THEN SOLAR. I MEAN, IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS. AND WHEN I SAW THAT IT WAS ONE OF THE LOCAL CORPORATIONS THAT IT'S A NATIONWIDE. I UNDERSTAND. UM, I WANT PARTICIPATION. YES. I WANT THE MAXIMUM PARTICIPATION. THAT'S THE WAY IT'S ALWAYS BEEN. THIS HAS TO BE ONE OF THE LONGEST USED TO BE BECAUSE NOW MY GALLON DOES EVERYTHING BETTER THAN EVERYBODY ELSE, BUT PLACES AND SCHOOLS, I MEAN, WE CAN STILL AT THREE, TWO, THEN THE IDEA OF ONLY THE SCHOOLS WITH THE CASH PRIZES. BUT I, I WOULD LIKE TO INCLUDE, UH, MAYBE A TROPHY OR SOMETHING, AT LEAST FOR THE OTHERS, UH, FOR SECOND AND THIRD IN CATEGORY. SO IT'S CASH AND PLAQUE FOR PLACE. I KNOW THAT, BUT THAT'S ONLY FOR SCHOOLS I'M TALKING ABOUT EVERYBODY ELSE IN THE COMMUNITY. UH, YEAH. I, I, OH, YOU WANT TO GIVE KIDS A, OR YOU WANT TO GIVE SOMEBODY FOR PARTICIPATING FOR PARTICIPATING WELL FOR NOT FOR PARTICIPATING FOR PARTICIPATING AND, AND, UH, PLACING FIRST, SECOND AND THIRD. AND THE CATEGORIES THAT YOU USED TO HAVE THE PARADE IS A PARADE. OKAY. SO I DON'T THINK, UH, I THINK, UH, ENTERPRISES SHOULD GO FOR THE KIDS. YEAH. THE CASH PRIZES. YEAH, DEFINITELY THE KIDS. I LIKE THAT. I MEAN, I DON'T, UH, [01:45:01] I MEAN, IT'S A PARADE THAT'S GOING TO GO THROUGH, THEY'RE GOING TO BE CATEGORIES. WELL, I KNOW YOU USED TO HAVE A, SCHOOL'S ONLY THE FLOW, THE THEME, RELIGIOUS, UH, AND THERE'S, AND THEN THE BUSINESS, THERE WERE SEVERAL, BUT BEST CAR CLUB. I USED TO BE HERE, ONE OF THE PARADE EVERY YEAR OF YEARS BACK. SO I CAN TELL YOU, IT JUST CREATED SOME EXCITEMENT THAT THEY PARTICIPATED AND THEY REALLY WORKED HARD FOR IT. SO I DON'T ONLY BE A RIBBON. YOU KNOW, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE A TROPHY OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, BUT IT'S A PLACE IT'S A, AND IT'S NOT NECESSARILY FOR PARTICIPATION BECAUSE ANYBODY CAN PARTICIPATE AS LONG AS THEY PAY THE $50 FEE. BUT I'M TALKING ABOUT, LET'S SAY A BUSINESS PUTS A LOT OF WORK INTO WHAT THEY DID DO THEY DO. THEY RECOGNIZE THAT, AND IT'S NOT TOO MUCH ABOUT THE MONEY, MAYBE A REVOLVING TROPHY. I DON'T KNOW, A REVOLVING TROPHY. I JUST WANT TO TURN OVER ALL THE GUIDES. I DON'T THINK THEY WANT TO GIVE IT UP ONCE THEY GET IT. SO THINK YOU LET US DO PEOPLE DO THIS MORE FOR ADVERTISEMENT AND JUST TO BE, YOU KNOW, GOOD SUPPORTERS OF THEIR COMMUNITY. RIGHT. SO I DON'T THINK THEY'RE REALLY DOING IT FOR A PRICE AT THE SCHOOLS. I SEE THE BENEFIT BECAUSE THEY CAN USE IT FOR THE KIDS. AND I DON'T KNOW A PIZZA PARTY FOR THE WHOLE SCHOOL. RIGHT. UM, I LIKE THIS IDEA AND THEN MAYBE A REVOLVING OVERALL TROPHY FOR THE REST OF THE GROUPS. I THINK AT TIMES, I DON'T KNOW IF THEY STILL DO AT TIMES THEY WOULD, THEY WOULD PARTICIPATE HERE AND GO COMPETE IN HARLINGTON. AND THEN ON BROWNSVILLE. I DON'T KNOW. THEY STILL DO. I KNOW IT WAS ONE OF THE TIME. I KNOW THAT WE USED TO DO THAT BEFORE. I DON'T KNOW HOW IT WORKS NOW. WELL, NICK IS VERY TALENTED. WE'LL LEAVE IT IN HER HANDS. WE'LL TRY AND GET YOU SOMETHING. I THINK SO, TOO. YEAH. OKAY. SO LET'S SEE IF WE CAN JUST COME UP WITH SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING A LITTLE BIT MORE CATEGORIES. IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE THE 12 CATEGORIES. YEAH, NO, NO, NO. IT WAS SOMETHING THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, THE, UH, BECAUSE THIS GOING TO BE A LOT OF WORK GOING INTO THOSE, UH, FLOATS AND, UH, YOU KNOW, THEY TAKE THE PRODUCT, WE'LL LOOK AT RIBBONS AND STUFF, BUT NO MORE CASH. THERE YOU GO. THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT RIGHT THERE. JUST SOMETHING IN RECOGNITION. HEY, YOU WORK HARD, PUT THIS TOGETHER AND WE RECOGNIZE THIS GORGEOUS, MORE PARTICIPATION, MAYBE EVEN FOR NEXT YEAR TO APPROVE WITH THE CONDITIONS THAT MAKE IT GOING TO GET BACK WITH US ON WHAT THE CATEGORIES. OKAY. WE'LL LOOK AT YOUR, AND THERE'LL BE 12 PLEASE. OKAY. SO, OKAY. I'VE GOT A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER FRANCO. SECOND, SECOND. OVER HERE. YOU HAD A SECOND. OKAY. SECOND BY COMMISSIONER GALVAN. AND THE ONLY FAVOR. ANY NAYS MOTION PASSES. THANK YOU, BRITNEY. BIGGEST PROBLEM. THE GAME. OKAY. OKAY. I DUNNO. 15 GERMAN. I HAVE MOTION TO ADJOURN. MOTION BY COMMISSIONER MIRACLE, TIM. SECOND, TAKE A BREAK. COMMISSIONER. THE RCO, ALL IN FAVOR. MOTION PASSES TO ADJOURN AND THE TIME IS SEVEN 18. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.